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User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2401 posts, RR: 5
Posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

Come next summer me and my friends will all be 21 and even though that's still a long ways from now, we're hoping to organize a trip to Las Vegas and party it up! I've really only passed through the airport there so I'm hoping you guys could address some of my questions below about vacationing there.

1.) From what I've heard, its cheaper to go during the summer and during the week, right? Is there any particular time during the summer when it might be especially cheap?

2.) This would be the first time in Vegas for all of us, so how many days do you think we should spend there? Monday-Thursday good enough? I figure everyone's main interest is gonna be going out at night and getting crazy at the clubs, but is there anything else around there you think a group of 21 year olds might find worthwhile, especially during the day?

3.) In terms of the hotel, I'm hoping everyone will have enough money so that we can stay in one of the better ones on the strip. The Venetian, Bellagio, and Ceasar's Palace all caught my eye while I was browsing on Expedia - anyone have a favorite out of those three or maybe one that I missed? Also, how far in advance should we book the rooms? Do rates for rooms change much or if I'm looking at a particular week for June is the price pretty much gonna be the same in a few months as it is now?

4.) If we're staying on the strip I'm assuming we'll be fine without having a car, right? And a taxi sufficient enough to get to/from the airport?

5.) Has anyone been on the Grand Canyon bus tours? I went to the West Rim with my family a year ago and while it was cool I wasn't blown away or anything like that. Is the South Rim significantly better in terms of views and scenery? It looks like most companies are charging around 80$ for that and I understand it quite a long haul to get over there as the trip takes up the entire day.


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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
1.) From what I've heard, its cheaper to go during the summer and during the week, right? Is there any particular time during the summer when it might be especially cheap?

Late July into August. One suggestion is to sign up for the various email newsletters that casinos have as there are often room rate offers that are exclusive to their email newsletters. If you are on Facebook, like the pages for the various casinos, as there are often special rates for Facebook fans (Same with Twitter.).

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
2.) This would be the first time in Vegas for all of us, so how many days do you think we should spend there? Monday-Thursday good enough? I figure everyone's main interest is gonna be going out at night and getting crazy at the clubs, but is there anything else around there you think a group of 21 year olds might find worthwhile, especially during the day?

That's about the right length of time, especially for a first trip. Monday to Thursday will also have the cheapest rates. As for daytime activities, you've got everything from hanging out by the pool, to dayclubs (giant pool parties), gun ranges, museums. Here's a couple of sites that you need to bookmark:

http://www.visitlasvegas.com/
http://www.ratevegas.com/
http://www.vegastripping.com/

I also recommend the podcast Five Hundy By Midnight as part of pre-trip planning.

http://www.fivehundybymidnight.com/fhbm/

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
3.) In terms of the hotel, I'm hoping everyone will have enough money so that we can stay in one of the better ones on the strip. The Venetian, Bellagio, and Ceasar's Palace all caught my eye while I was browsing on Expedia - anyone have a favorite out of those three or maybe one that I missed? Also, how far in advance should we book the rooms? Do rates for rooms change much or if I'm looking at a particular week for June is the price pretty much gonna be the same in a few months as it is now?

Caesars Palace hands down. Bellagio and The Venetian charge a daily resort fee (one of my biggest pet peeves about Vegas), and Caesars does have a nice variety of rooms and the level of service there is really good. Bellagio charges a $25/night + tax resort fee and the Venetian charges a $20/night + tax resort fee. About the only thing that folks might use that is bundled in with the resort fee is WiFi, which Caesars charges (I think) $15 a day for it. I stayed there last December using a Total Rewards rate (Total Rewards is the player's club program for nearly all of the Caesars Entertainment properties across the country.) that was too good to pass up. I had originally been booked in a room in the Forum Tower but was offered an upgrade to the Augustus Tower for $40 more a night, which was a no-brainer upgrade. I was out there during a slow period between Thanksgiving and Christmas when room rate deals can be pretty good.

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):

4.) If we're staying on the strip I'm assuming we'll be fine without having a car, right? And a taxi sufficient enough to get to/from the airport?

The Strip is easy to stay at without a car. There's bus service that runs up and down the Strip as well as Downtown to the Fremont Street area that runs 24/7.

You have to be real careful there, as some taxi drivers do what is called long hauling in which they take the long way from LAS to the Strip (usually via the airport connector tunnel and the interstate). That usually adds an additional $10-15 to the fare and unless they have your permission to go that route, they are breaking the law and can be reported, fined, and you get your fare refunded. Plus if you've got more than a couple of people, you may have to take two cabs.

The shuttle buses are a decent options, but depending on where you're staying, you could be on the bus for a bit. You also have to call a day in advance to schedule your return trip, and there's been times where it took me 2 hours to get someone at the shuttle bus company.

Another option is booking a limo, which is not as expensive as it sounds. For example, a 6-8 passenger stretch will typically run (including taxes, fees, and tip) about $150-175 round trip depending on the company. Plus it is just so much cooler to pull up at the hotel in a limo instead of a taxi or shuttle bus.

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
5.) Has anyone been on the Grand Canyon bus tours? I went to the West Rim with my family a year ago and while it was cool I wasn't blown away or anything like that. Is the South Rim significantly better in terms of views and scenery? It looks like most companies are charging around 80$ for that and I understand it quite a long haul to get over there as the trip takes up the entire day.

That's something I've yet to do, and the one time I had a Grand Canyon tour planned, my trip dates changed and I wasn't going to be able to fit the trip in since I went from being on a solo trip to a group trip. I had booked an air+bus tour through Vision Holidays for (if I remember correctly) about $300. It still took up most of a day, but by flying to GCN from VGT instead of a long bus ride, you got more time at the Grand Canyon. I don't think I could stand being on a bus from Vegas to the Grand Canyon and back. I've had friends that have done the Grand Canyon by helicopter from Vegas and they really enjoyed it.


User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2417 times:
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Quoting srbmod (Reply 1):

That's about the right length of time, especially for a first trip. Monday to Thursday will also have the cheapest rates. As for daytime activities, you've got everything from hanging out by the pool, to dayclubs (giant pool parties), gun ranges, museums. Here's a couple of sites that you need to bookmark:

http://www.visitlasvegas.com/
http://www.ratevegas.com/
http://www.vegastripping.com/

I also recommend the podcast Five Hundy By Midnight as part of pre-trip planning.

http://www.fivehundybymidnight.com/fhbm/

I did the same thing a couple years ago with my friends, so I'll chip in my two cents. I would highly suggest going up the Stratosphere (as long as the group is OK with heights) as the view is amazing. There is also a roller coaster and a teeter toter that goes off the edge if any of you are into extreme thrill rides. You can also go up in the Effiel tower (not as cool though) on the strip and see a nice view. If you get a chance, get to a Blue Man concert as those seem to be fun for all ages and types of people. No matter what you end up doing, it will probably go quick and I highly doubt you will ever be bored.

If you are into spotting at all (I'm assuming you may be but your friends may not be) there is a paved designated parking lot for spotting off of Sunset Rd. although you would likely want a taxi to get there. It is well marked and there are usually several cars in there, sometimes even with tripods in the back of pickups to take shots over the fence. It isn't real exciting spotting WN 737's but LAS does have a few some what unique airlines like Virgin Atlantic, British Airways, Copa Airlines, and HA that mix it up just a little. It's mid-way down 25L/7R so it's a great spot to see touchdowns just a few hundred feet away.


User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

Quoting iowaman (Reply 2):
I did the same thing a couple years ago with my friends, so I'll chip in my two cents. I would highly suggest going up the Stratosphere (as long as the group is OK with heights) as the view is amazing. There is also a roller coaster and a teeter toter that goes off the edge if any of you are into extreme thrill rides. You can also go up in the Effiel tower (not as cool though) on the strip and see a nice view. If you get a chance, get to a Blue Man concert as those seem to be fun for all ages and types of people. No matter what you end up doing, it will probably go quick and I highly doubt you will ever be bored.

The roller coaster was removed several years ago. I went to the top of the tower my very first trip to ride the Big Shot and nearly chickened out. I was taking my time making my way from the observation deck to the rides level because I was nervous. It wasn't the heights that scared me, it was the not knowing when the ride was going to start that scared me. I'll never ride that ride again. I'll admit that the swing they have up there intrigues me.

Blue Man Group opens up at their new home at Monte Carlo this coming Wednesday. I've never had any interest in seeing them. The shows in Vegas are all under 90 minutes in length, as that is the standard set years ago as the casinos wanted folks playing in the casinos and not watching shows. Even though casinos derive more of their income these days from non-gaming sources, some conventions are yet to be tossed aside. There's plenty of really good shows out there and something for everyone.

Quoting iowaman (Reply 2):
If you are into spotting at all (I'm assuming you may be but your friends may not be) there is a paved designated parking lot for spotting off of Sunset Rd. although you would likely want a taxi to get there. It is well marked and there are usually several cars in there, sometimes even with tripods in the back of pickups to take shots over the fence. It isn't real exciting spotting WN 737's but LAS does have a few some what unique airlines like Virgin Atlantic, British Airways, Copa Airlines, and HA that mix it up just a little. It's mid-way down 25L/7R so it's a great spot to see touchdowns just a few hundred feet away.

The running joke from the 2006 and 2007 A.net LAS Meets was "Oh look a Southwest 737"..... The only spotting I do in Vegas is people spotting. You can practically play Walmart Bingo when you're hanging out on Fremont Street.....

There's so much to do out there that it can take years to do everything you want to do. I'm getting ready to head out there for the 13th time since my first trip back in 2004 and there's still a long list of things on my to-do list that keep getting knocked down the list.


User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7126 posts, RR: 87
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

I like Wynn, Bellagio & Harrahs. Don't waste your time with the Pawn Stars Shop, it's a $20+ cab ride each way. Unless your set on forking out some cash for a suite to just sleep in, stay off the strip at Westin or somewhere else and walk a block. I wouldn't recommend MGM or Luxor. They have old rooms with no cameras for security and I've had work colleagues have stuff taken from their rooms when they are gambling. Go see Love at Harrahs or O at Bellagio; Cirque is a must when in Vegas. Look into a hotel that offers a free shuttle, new Hilton property or Double Tree. You'll spend 45 minutes waiting for a $23 cab ride. It's a joke. Be smart above all. There are tons of local creeps on the strip that can spot a tourist a mile away. I'm in Vegas 3-4x a year for work and always tell myself I won't have a good time and always leave happy. Definitely see a show and ask SRBmod for tips. He's a resident Rat Pack visitor to Vegas.

User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

Quoting fxramper (Reply 4):
Go see Love at Harrahs

Love is at Mirage........ The only non-MGM Resorts property in Vegas with a Cirque show is Treasure Island, which used to be owned by MGM.

Quoting fxramper (Reply 4):
They have old rooms with no cameras for security and I've had work colleagues have stuff taken from their rooms when they are gambling.

That can happen at any hotel. I know folks that got stuff taken from their rooms at Cosmopolitan right after it opened (Nice place to eat and drink, overpriced rooms [I can get one of the nicest rooms at Caesars for Cosmo wants for their smallest rooms.], bad service on the hotel side and not so good of a casino.). That's why I always use the room safe as there is less of a chance of anything of value being stolen (That being said, some in-room safes cannot fit a laptop or large digital camera.).

Quoting fxramper (Reply 4):
Cirque is a must when in Vegas.

No it's not. I've yet to see any of the Cirque shows in Vegas. I've got Vegas friends that have actually fallen to sleep at some of the Cirque shows. My favorite show in Vegas is Absinthe at Caesars Palace. It's a variety show that is rude, crude and socially unacceptable (One of the bits is a sock puppet show that starts out rather innocently but quickly turns into sock puppet porn. They actually keep a scoreboard back stage of every patron that has walked out of the show, and the majority of them are during the sock puppet sketch.). Some of the performers in it have spent time in some of the various Cirque productions not just in Vegas, but internationally and the venue is a small tent that seats something like 300 people and there's not a bad seat in the house. I saw it three times over the course of two trips last year and will be seeing it at least once next week.

There's a number of places that sell discounted show tickets and while I've never used them, a number of folks I know from some of the Vegas sites I hang out on do and sometimes you can get some real steals.

Quoting fxramper (Reply 4):
Don't waste your time with the Pawn Stars Shop, it's a $20+ cab ride each way.

It's definitely a tourist trap. There is a company that offers a Pawn Stars tour that includes visits to the Gold & Silver Pawn Shop, Rick's Restoration (He moved his shop into the Arts District area of Las Vegas mainly to keep up with the extra business he's gotten as well as visitors.)., the Toy Shack (This is the store that the toy expert they use runs), as well as ATM (The store from the Animal Planet series Tanked.). I thought about heading to Gold & Silver this trip because they do have a really good selection of old casino chips and tokens and I'm looking to add a few to my collection. What sucks is that there is not a bus stop within a short walk of the place either when going north. One could always take the Deuce or Strip Downtown Express bus to the Stratosphere and cab it from there.


User currently offlineleezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2304 times:

If you are going clubbing, get yourself to the Wynn/Encore and visit either XS or Surrender - both are seriously cool clubs, if a bit pricey - but then in Vegas most clubs are expensive.

Mix Bar at the top of THE Hotel at Mandalay bay has awesome views of the strip, and the toilets face the other way towards the south and offer equally good views.

Check out this website for club and bar reviews :-

http://www.jackcolton.com/

Make sure you take a trip down Freemont Street, it is cheaper to drink and gamble down there too.

If any of you want some cheap shopping, Las Vegas Premium Outlets at the North End of the strip is pretty good for bargains.

Have a look into getting a room at the Planet Hollywood Westgate, the rooms are awesome and have a huge cinema screen that comes down over the windows.

Have a look at www.vrbo.com for condo deals as it might be cheaper than a regular hotel.

Oh and watch out for hustlers and ladies of the night!!

 



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User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2298 times:
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Quoting fxramper (Reply 4):
I wouldn't recommend MGM or Luxor

MGM is actually nearly complete with a renovation of 4,212 rooms at a cost of $160m:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012...-160-million-room-renovation-las-/


User currently offlineSANAV8R From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

Honestly, as a young person who lived, worked and studied in Las Vegas up until recently and still goes frequently, I'd recommend the Cosmopolitan.
- Good location, not too far south but fairly close to the center of the Strip.
- Best Nightclub, Marquee is huge and you can move to different areas.
- Younger crowd.
- Great Restaurants, Wicked Spoon is good.

My downside:
The rooms are hit or miss. I graduated from UNLV in Dec and had my party on a Wraparound Terrace Suite, which is nice. But the regular terrace rooms are kind of bland.

But to be honest, the trend in rooms these days is clean and modern. White linens, dark woods, colored walls, sunken tubs and flat-screen TVs. Only as you go up in price do they tend to look different.

Wynn/Encore, Venetian/Palazzo, Bellagio and Caesars are all very nice luxury resorts, more of an older crowd to be honest in my opinion.


In terms of clubs on the Strip besides the aforementioned Marquee
- Wynn/Encore has XS, Surrender, Tryst
- Venetian/Palazzo has LAVO & TAO
- Caesars has Pure
- Mirage has 1OAK
- Bellagio has The Bank, Hyde
- PH has Gallery
- Paris has Chateau
- CityCenter has Haze
Plus if you are there in the Summer you'll have all the pool clubs.

However, in June is the massive electronic dance festival 'EDC' - Electric Daisy Carnival - which means an influx of people from all over the world and hotel rates skyrocket because the popularity of the event. Although rumors are abound whether it will take place next year.

And any weekend is more expensive. Because all of Southern California heads there to party. Many a time I'd leave Vegas to go home to San Diego for a weekend and the 15 would be at a dead stop on the opposite direction.

There are hundreds of restaurants and bars to choose from. If you get a car, be sure to visit some of the rest of Vegas. I really enjoyed the M Resort, which is modern but more of a local crowd.

[Edited 2012-10-07 19:21:37]

User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2226 times:

Quoting leezyjet (Reply 6):
Have a look into getting a room at the Planet Hollywood Westgate, the rooms are awesome and have a huge cinema screen that comes down over the windows.

Now known as Elara, as Hilton Grand Vacations is managing the property on behalf of the company that bought it from Westgate. It's a pretty good room option except that access to Planet Hollywood is not ideal.

Quoting SANAV8R (Reply 8):
Honestly, as a young person who lived, worked and studied in Las Vegas up until recently and still goes frequently, I'd recommend the Cosmopolitan.
- Good location, not too far south but fairly close to the center of the Strip.
- Best Nightclub, Marquee is huge and you can move to different areas.
- Younger crowd.
- Great Restaurants, Wicked Spoon is good.

My downside:
The rooms are hit or miss. I graduated from UNLV in Dec and had my party on a Wraparound Terrace Suite, which is nice. But the regular terrace rooms are kind of bland.

The hotel side of things have been a mess from day one. I've heard too many horror stories of room types not being honored (As in booking a Terrace Suite with a fountain view and them putting you in a City Room.), having your reservation forgotten about, getting assigned a room that someone was already staying in, bad housekeeping (dirty rooms, stained wallpaper and linens), a/c units not working just to name a few incidents I have heard first hand accounts from people on the few Vegas boards I post on. Part of the problem is that Cosmo was not originally intended to be a hotel, it was supposed to be a condo resort (Deutsche Bank has bought out pretty much everyone that had bought condos there and a few are still in litigation.) and the rooms reflect that. The gaming side of the property is lagging behind mainly because they do very little marketing for the casino side of the resort. None of the TV commercials even mention a casino beyond it being in the name of the property. I think I can count on one hand the number of times their social media outlets have mentioning the gaming side of things (Probably cannot find the time to do so as it would tear them away from reading articles and posting links to them on Twitter...). I go there to eat (Wicked Spoon is pretty good.) and drink and maybe do a little gambling. I'm not into the club thing at all (I'm 37, I don't want to be the creepy older guy at a club.) and prefer hanging out at bars (I love Chandelier and will be trying Vesper and Book & Stage in a few days when I'm out there. Bond is pretty cool too.).

Caesars is trying to attract a more youthful crowd, but as long as they have artists like Celine, Elton, Rod, and Shania as headliners, that's not going to happen (Look at Wynn and Encore, who would have thought they would have been the resort to really embrace EDM and dayclubs.). The club crowd will head over there to go to Pure and that's it (When I was out there in December, I actually could have gotten passes to Pure, as that weekend was so dead they were desperate for customers.). With the new Nobu Tower (The folks behind the famed Nobu chain of restaurants, including Robert DeNiro have converted the old Centurion Tower in to a more modern/Asian inspired tower.), guests staying there will get passes to Pure, so I guess they;re trying to attract a younger crowd to stay at Nobu. I stayed in the Augustus Tower and loved it; of course I'm probably on the low end of their target demographic.

Quoting SANAV8R (Reply 8):
However, in June is the massive electronic dance festival 'EDC' - Electric Daisy Carnival - which means an influx of people from all over the world and hotel rates skyrocket because the popularity of the event. Although rumors are abound whether it will take place next year.

I was out there the weekend before EDC last year and my buddies and I were laughing at the room rates for that weekend, even at the smaller properties Downtown along Fremont Street. If the promoters of the event get convicted in L.A. on bribery charges, the chances of EDC being granted a permanent license to hold the event (EDC 2011 was permitted via LVMS and this year's was permitted as a temporary carnival.) as slim as such a conviction would likely result in the denial of a permanent license to hold the event in Las Vegas.

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2...business_license_rotella_vegas.php


User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
1.) From what I've heard, its cheaper to go during the summer and during the week, right? Is there any particular time during the summer when it might be especially cheap?

During the week it is cheap but you can also find cheap weekend rates if you use an App like Hotel 4 Tonight.

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
2.) This would be the first time in Vegas for all of us, so how many days do you think we should spend there? Monday-Thursday good enough? I figure everyone's main interest is gonna be going out at night and getting crazy at the clubs, but is there anything else around there you think a group of 21 year olds might find worthwhile, especially during the day

Aww Vegas virgin haha. I can only take Vegas for two days at the most. If you go out every night (which will happen) and drink alot (which will happen) you are going to be hating life by the end of day three. I avoid clubs, to expensive for guys, besides if your not with girls, you have no chance of getting into some clubs. Carnival Bar is good, it is like a cheap night club, 10 dollar cover. During the day in the summer, sitting by the pool drinking is your best daytime activity idea for 21 year olds.

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
3.) In terms of the hotel, I'm hoping everyone will have enough money so that we can stay in one of the better ones on the strip. The Venetian, Bellagio, and Ceasar's Palace all caught my eye while I was browsing on Expedia - anyone have a favorite out of those three or maybe one that I missed? Also, how far in advance should we book the rooms? Do rates for rooms change much or if I'm looking at a particular week for June is the price pretty much gonna be the same in a few months as it is now?

Room Rates change very often, don't book anything now. Wait a couple weeks before your trip. As a fellow college student myself I like to get things cheap, Imperial Place would be a good choice because the hotel is cheap and you are near the big players on the strip like The Venetian, Bellagio, etc....

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
4.) If we're staying on the strip I'm assuming we'll be fine without having a car, right? And a taxi sufficient enough to get to/from the airport?

No need to rent a car. Taxi will get you to/from the airport. There are shuttle buses that run along the strip and the monorail as well.

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
5.) Has anyone been on the Grand Canyon bus tours? I went to the West Rim with my family a year ago and while it was cool I wasn't blown away or anything like that. Is the South Rim significantly better in terms of views and scenery? It looks like most companies are charging around 80$ for that and I understand it quite a long haul to get over there as the trip takes up the entire day.

Nope, I would like to do but all I seem to do when I go to Vegas is party, drink, gamble, and drink some more. I would save the money for some drinks and gambling. Once again speaking as a 22 year old college student, Vegas is all about the partying, drinking, gambling, and seeing what kind of trouble you can get into(legally of course).



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User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3592 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2208 times:

I didn't enjoy Vegas too much but one thing that I can tell you is to book the Cosmopolitan for hotel. The crowd is generally younger there.

User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2401 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

Thanks for all of your input everyone!

Quoting srbmod (Reply 1):
Caesars Palace hands down. Bellagio and The Venetian charge a daily resort fee (one of my biggest pet peeves about Vegas), and Caesars does have a nice variety of rooms and the level of service there is really good.
Quoting fxramper (Reply 4):
I like Wynn, Bellagio & Harrahs.
Quoting SANAV8R (Reply 8):
Honestly, as a young person who lived, worked and studied in Las Vegas up until recently and still goes frequently, I'd recommend the Cosmopolitan.
Quoting lewis (Reply 11):
I didn't enjoy Vegas too much but one thing that I can tell you is to book the Cosmopolitan for hotel. The crowd is generally younger there.

Ok so I'm thinking out of the first three that the first three original choices, Caesars might be my first pick. The Venetian looks great with its rooms and everything, but I'm just not sure some of my friends would be able to swing it in terms of cost. Some of you mentioned mentioned the Cosmopolitan, and while I wasn't thinking of that one before it might be worth considering since it looks pretty good in some of the pictures I'm looking at. Especially if you say that's where the younger crowd goes. Does this mean that if we go to Ceasar's its just gonna be a ton of older people that we don't really fit in with?

Also, I'm getting the sense that in addition to the hotel you stay at, part of the Las Vegas "experience" is to walk around and go inside all the other hotels anyways? I guess I'm just used to vacationing with my family in places like Cancun, Puerto Vallarta, and Punta Cana where you really only just stay at your own resort.

Quoting fxramper (Reply 4):
Don't waste your time with the Pawn Stars Shop, it's a $20+ cab ride each way.

You really think we should avoid going there? A lot of my friends and I watch the show so its definitely something that we were planning on checking out. What does he mean when he says its a "tourist trap"? I always assumed you could just go in there and like in a regular store just look around.

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 10):
I avoid clubs, to expensive for guys, besides if your not with girls, you have no chance of getting into some clubs.

So in other words you're telling me its kind of like the college fraternity scene? I thought that as long as you're 21 and pay the cover charge you can go where ever.

Quoting fxramper (Reply 4):
Go see Love at Harrahs or O at Bellagio; Cirque is a must when in Vegas.
Quoting srbmod (Reply 5):
My favorite show in Vegas is Absinthe at Caesars Palace.

So these shows in Vegas, what are they like? I've always been intrigued but at the same time neither me or my friends really have that much of an appreciation for "classic" theatre so I'm not sure if we'd get our moneysworth. Are there any good magic shows?



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User currently offlineSANAV8R From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2124 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 12):
Also, I'm getting the sense that in addition to the hotel you stay at, part of the Las Vegas "experience" is to walk around and go inside all the other hotels anyways

Pros:
It's a great way to explore each property and uniqueness
See the outside shows (Bellagio fountains, Mirage volcano, Sirens of TI, etc.)
People watching.

Cons:
Most properties will look begin to look alike inside: another Fat Tuesday, another Louis Vuitton, etc.
Construction and especially at night during the summer since its near impossible to work during the blazing day
Weather. It's hot so don't try it long pants and uncomfortable footwear.
Crowds of tour groups waiting to push you down
Drunk guys and girls. Girls will take their heels off and guys can get rowdy after clubs and bars.
Shows will cause pedestrian traffic to bottle.
Hecklers like street performers
Some beggars
Sex Card guys. Mostly Spanish-speaking guys who attempt to hand you small photos of escorts.

Especially as a first-timer, start in the evening at one point but don't try to see everything in one night, unless you really want to. Start at one point and walk in one direction and then come back on the opposite side. When walking North, after crossing Spring Mountain/Sands - the west side will be Fashion Show Mall & Trump and the east side is Wynn/Encore. Don't walk past those. There is really nothing but empty lots, the Cathedral, the abandoned Fountainbleau, abandoned Sahara, the Riviera and Circus Circus. Circus Circus is basically a Chuck E. Cheese attached to a casino and the Riviera is kinda sad. Yes, the Stratosphere is down that ways and the Freemont Experience is as well, but just taxi or bus it to those places.

The RTC is a great option. For $7 for 24hr pass, you can ride a bus from the far South End (basically the end is the two malls - Town Square, LV Premium Outlets - and the South Strip Station.) all the way to Downtown Las Vegas. There is two - the Deuce which stops at all of the hotels and major attractions and the SDX which stops at some of the hotels.

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 12):
You really think we should avoid going there? A lot of my friends and I watch the show so its definitely something that we were planning on checking out. What does he mean when he says its a "tourist trap"? I always assumed you could just go in there and like in a regular store just look around.

I went once or twice. It's rather small and now with the popularity of the show, the line can be out the door. It's essentially a pawn shop that now has more and more antiques/collectibles. Plus there is no guarantee that the stars will be there.

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 12):
Especially if you say that's where the younger crowd goes. Does this mean that if we go to Ceasar's its just gonna be a ton of older people that we don't really fit in with?

Caesars attracts an international and all-ages crowd. It's famous and one of the oldest hotels still standing on the Strip (in terms of name, most of the structures are newer) and also one of the last themed hotels. But as a young person, I went to Caesars really for two things, the Forum Shops and PURE.

PURE is still a nice but not the big-name drawer that it used to be. Which can be a blessing since it may be less crowded than other places. Forum Shops is really just a mall on steroids with mostly high-end brands, of which only reason I went was that I used to work at a popular clothing brand at the mall Las Vegas Town Square (just south of Mandalay Bay) and I would go to my company's store at Caesars for our work outfits since they generally were open until Midnight and not very busy that late.

But Caesars is still a nice property. But if you are looking for the youthful vibe, Cosmo has it. But

[Edited 2012-10-10 22:57:41]

User currently offlineha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3596 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2118 times:
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Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 12):
Also, I'm getting the sense that in addition to the hotel you stay at, part of the Las Vegas "experience" is to walk around and go inside all the other hotels anyways?

Yes. Whether it be shopping, attraction, or show, they want you there even if you are not staying at the hotel. They want you to spend your money in their casino. You will notice that you will be walking through the casino to get pretty much anywhere.

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 12):
Quoting fxramper (Reply 4):
Don't waste your time with the Pawn Stars Shop, it's a $20+ cab ride each way.

You really think we should avoid going there? A lot of my friends and I watch the show so its definitely something that we were planning on checking out. What does he mean when he says its a "tourist trap"? I always assumed you could just go in there and like in a regular store just look around.

If you and your friends want to go, go. Just don't expect to see any of the show's stars in the shop unless you get lucky. You will be waiting in line just to get in and will see a lot of Pawn Stars and Gold and Silver Pawn merchandise being sold.

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 12):
So these shows in Vegas, what are they like? I've always been intrigued but at the same time neither me or my friends really have that much of an appreciation for "classic" theatre so I'm not sure if we'd get our moneysworth. Are there any good magic shows?

Check youtube or the official websites for videos on the different shows. As for magic shows, I know David Copperfield is at the MGM right now. I'm not sure if he will still be there next year. I don't recommend Criss Angel. I haven't heard good reviews of his show.


User currently offlinenighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2098 times:

Does anyone have any recommendations for day trips in the Vegas area? I will be heading to Vegas at the end of the month, for my 5th visit there. I have done the Grand Canyon, Hoover Dam and Charlston Peak. We will have a hire car, so are open to suggestions on where else we can go for a day.


That'll teach you
User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6265 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 12):
You really think we should avoid going there?

It's a waste. I love the show, as a history buff, but would never go to the store. I've talked to a few people who have (a cousin, my brother-in-law...people I trust) and they say it's such a waste. Roundtrip taxi ride...usually a line...you see a fraction of the store, and not often the part that's on TV, and you'll have pretty much 0.01% chance of seeing someone you recognize. Don't bother.


User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7126 posts, RR: 87
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 5):
No it's not. I've yet to see any of the Cirque shows in Vegas. I've got Vegas friends that have actually fallen to sleep at some of the Cirque shows. My favorite show in Vegas is Absinthe at Caesars Palace. It's a variety show that is rude, crude and socially unacceptable (One of the bits is a sock puppet show that starts out rather innocently but quickly turns into sock puppet porn. They actually keep a scoreboard back stage of every patron that has walked out of the show, and the majority of them are during the sock puppet sketch.). Some of the performers in it have spent time in some of the various Cirque productions not just in Vegas, but internationally and the venue is a small tent that seats something like 300 people and there's not a bad seat in the house. I saw it three times over the course of two trips last year and will be seeing it at least once next week.

Okay, I go to Vegas 5x a year for work and even the tourists I know that go to Vegas insist Cirque is a must. What planet do you live on? MSNBC & CNN say Cirque is a top 5 for Vegas even if you gamble. I've seen 9 of the shows and only 4 in Vegas. It beats sitting at a blackjack table at Bellagio.

Quoting leezyjet (Reply 6):
If you are going clubbing, get yourself to the Wynn/Encore and visit either XS or Surrender - both are seriously cool clubs, if a bit pricey - but then in Vegas most clubs are expensive.

Despite the overkill, Wynn is an awesome place to stay when in Vegas. I don't know prices of rooms but it's a hell of a place to spend time in.

Quoting iowaman (Reply 7):
MGM is actually nearly complete with a renovation of 4,212 rooms at a cost of $160m:

Good to know.

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 12):
You really think we should avoid going there? A lot of my friends and I watch the show so its definitely something that we were planning on checking out. What does he mean when he says its a "tourist trap"? I always assumed you could just go in there and like in a regular store just look around.

Hell know, don't go. The rolex I wore going into the shop the first time cost more than any watch they offered at the counter. The girl in charge said the TV heads aren't there very often and only when filming is going on and visitors are very very limited. A cab ride from your hotel will be quick down the highway and your return will be a cashectomy down the Vegas strip lasting 3x as long. Total tourist trap...

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 12):
So these shows in Vegas, what are they like? I've always been intrigued but at the same time neither me or my friends really have that much of an appreciation for "classic" theatre so I'm not sure if we'd get our moneysworth. Are there any good magic shows?

Magic shows? Penn & Teller? Don't waste your cash, go see Cirque.

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 15):
Does anyone have any recommendations for day trips in the Vegas area? I will be heading to Vegas at the end of the month, for my 5th visit there. I have done the Grand Canyon, Hoover Dam and Charlston Peak. We will have a hire car, so are open to suggestions on where else we can go for a day.

I don't know anyone that goes to Vegas with intent on seeing the Grand Canyon or Hoover Dam. It's always a drunk bar decision with some solicitor selling you a once in a life time deal. Want to see the Grand Canyon, take a road trip to AZ or the Hoover Dam go to CA via car.

When in Vegas, stay in Vegas.


User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

Mke717spotter;

I won't put this on the forum.......

I read these "What's the best thing to see/do in Vegas, where to stay, etc etc etc threads ALL, the time and they all leave out some of the most important stuff.

For instance.........you mentioned three places.......Ceasar's, Venetion, & Bellagio; yeah, they're all "great".......if you're a millionaire ! ( You WILL love Bellagio's big "water show", and it's free !)

For what you want to do.......the BEST way to "see" Vegas, is to get on "Hotels.com" (or Expedia), and book a "package deal". Air fare, plus, hotel.

The prices for EVERYTHING in Vegas "fluctuate" up and down, every week ! You need to book the package, a month to 3 or 4 months in advance, and you're "locked in".

What no one ever seems to think about on these threads...........where to eat ! Vegas has been (and still is) "on it's ass" because of the PP economy; they are CONSTANTLY looking at new ways to "bring in revenue" You "used" to be able to eat in Vegas damn near for free; (those days are long gone !) There is a way "around" the ridiculous food prices;

If you stay at the Luxor or the Excaliber..............(same outfit owns them both), you can get a "meal ticket" for (I think) $25 per day, and you can bop in, eat anything you want, all you want, as many times as you want, from like 7 am until midnite.......for $25 ! )It's cheaper than eating at McDonalds !) Some one said Luxor was "bad" ? (that's total BS!) they may have rooms that are better than other rooms, but so does every hotel in Vegas !

My fiancee' has been going to Vegas for years......stayed in half the hotels out there; we're going out in April or June; we can fly anyplace Southwest Airlines goes to, for free; but we have to fly "standby"; in other words.......there has to be two available seats, or we have to take the next plane that HAS two available seats. So it's actually cheaper for us to book a package, fly Frontier, (or Delta), and 4 days & 3 nights is like $400, to $450 each, airfare plus hotel. When you book a package, you can still cancel, but you have to do it like 24 or 48 hrs in advance; (it varies by hotel)

Check out Hotels.com web site and Expedia, and you'll see what I mean.

When you get to Vegas.......this is hard to explain in a few words......there is NO PLACE in the world where EVERYTHING is more "pre-planned", more "figured out" in advance, more "rigidly controlled" than Las Vegas; you are ON someone's camera from the minute you get there, till when you leave; If you so much a "fart", it will probably be recorded ! I'm not kidding......this place is owned and operated by some of the smartest, richest, most "experienced" people on the planet, they deal with millions of people every year, they know every "scam", every BS "move" whatever, and they have NO intention of having ANYONE "screw up" their "investment" ! It's the same with the cops; you won't even know they are there.........untill you "get loud", act stupid, get "wasted".........THEN, you'll damn well see what I'm talking about ! They DON"T mess around ! (so plan on :"staying cool" ! It's a great place to have fun, see incredible "sights".........but it's the world's worst place to "screw up" !

What to do.......(jeez......it would take six books !) It all depends on you; personally, I don't : drink, smoke or gamble......but I LOVE Vegas ! This trip, I'm gonna take the bus tour to Hoover Dam, so I can see the new bridge across the river there; taking a tour to the Grand Canyon is too far, as you spend most of the day riding the bus, and I've already been to the South Rim and the North Rim, so while in Vegas, I'll stay within 30 -40 miles of Vegas.

There are all manner of shows at the hotels, and all are "pricey as hell"; ( I love to watch the "Cirque"........on TV ) unless you pay a mint, you are so far from the action, you need a telescope !

The "Stratosphere" is neat to see, and a bunch of young guys will probably dig it......but the Hotel is.........worn out, "sleazy", and the whole place is in a VERY "sleazy" neighborhood.

What you WILL dig.......is Fremont Street; (especially the "light show" at night) that's a "must see"; "Down town" Vegas, (Fremont St. The Golden Nugget,) are at the opposite end of "The Strip" from all the "new stuff".......and there's some "sleazy", better to stay out of" neighborhoods in between the two; either take a cab, city bus,(by far the cheapest), or the "shuttle". (Don't try to "hoof it" !) (Too far, and it isn't safe)

Luxor or Excaliber are both relatively inexpensive on a package deal, both have great rooms; even cheaper, (and still quite nice, is Hooters; it's only a block or so off the strip, and you can sometimes snag ridiculous low prices on rooms there; ( then walk a few blocks to all of the "action"n );

Mandalay Bay is a HUGE hotel, even "huger" convention center, almost next door to Luxor, (is VERY expensive if you stay there, but I go to a big Trade Show there every other year; also, they have a "humongous" aquarium there, which I have never seen yet, but hope to this next trip; it's said to be beyond awesome ! Also, that end of the strip is pretty close to the airport, if you want to watch planes.

A Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday package is a good value. price wise; just spend a lot of time on the web sites, checking out all of the package deals.

Charley



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlinenighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

"excellent" summary Geezer, and "interesting" use of quote marks!  


That'll teach you
User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 18):

For instance.........you mentioned three places.......Ceasar's, Venetion, & Bellagio; yeah, they're all "great".......if you're a millionaire ! ( You WILL love Bellagio's big "water show", and it's free !)

I've stayed at Caesars (There's not an apostrophe in the name and that is intentional, as when Jay Sarno built the place, he wanted everyone to be a Caesar.) and you do not have to be a millionaire to stay there. You just have to know when to book.

Quoting Geezer (Reply 18):
For what you want to do.......the BEST way to "see" Vegas, is to get on "Hotels.com" (or Expedia), and book a "package deal". Air fare, plus, hotel.


That may not entirely be the case. Sometimes the package deal may be more expensive or it could save you $150+ or maybe only $25-50. It's definitely worth shopping around for the best deal.

Quoting Geezer (Reply 18):
When you get to Vegas.......this is hard to explain in a few words......there is NO PLACE in the world where EVERYTHING is more "pre-planned", more "figured out" in advance, more "rigidly controlled" than Las Vegas; you are ON someone's camera from the minute you get there, till when you leave; If you so much a "fart", it will probably be recorded ! I'm not kidding......this place is owned and operated by some of the smartest, richest, most "experienced" people on the planet, they deal with millions of people every year, they know every "scam", every BS "move" whatever, and they have NO intention of having ANYONE "screw up" their "investment" ! It's the same with the cops; you won't even know they are there.........untill you "get loud", act stupid, get "wasted".........THEN, you'll damn well see what I'm talking about ! They DON"T mess around ! (so plan on :"staying cool" ! It's a great place to have fun, see incredible "sights".........but it's the world's worst place to "screw up" !
Quoting Geezer (Reply 18):
The "Stratosphere" is neat to see, and a bunch of young guys will probably dig it......but the Hotel is.........worn out, "sleazy", and the whole place is in a VERY "sleazy" neighborhood.

The owners of the Stratosphere have really spruced up the place in the last few years. Just too bad the rest of the neighborhood is a bit sketchy (Why couldn't Bob Stupak have found some land south of Sahara Ave instead of north of it.....).

Quoting Geezer (Reply 18):
Mandalay Bay is a HUGE hotel, even "huger" convention center, almost next door to Luxor, (is VERY expensive if you stay there, but I go to a big Trade Show there every other year; also, they have a "humongous" aquarium there, which I have never seen yet, but hope to this next trip; it's said to be beyond awesome ! Also, that end of the strip is pretty close to the airport, if you want to watch planes.

I spent some time there a few weeks ago and got lost trying to get to Mandalay Beach (Most of our group was staying at theHotel at Mandalay Bay and we always do a pool day during warm weather so I had to trek to MB from center Strip.). The planes weren't too annoying when hanging out at the pool complex; it's the damn helicopter tours constantly flying over that annoyed me.

Quoting Geezer (Reply 18):
What no one ever seems to think about on these threads...........where to eat ! Vegas has been (and still is) "on it's ass" because of the PP economy; they are CONSTANTLY looking at new ways to "bring in revenue" You "used" to be able to eat in Vegas damn near for free; (those days are long gone !) There is a way "around" the ridiculous food prices;

The resorts make more off of non-gaming revenues than they do gaming revenues these days. They used to not offer much in the terms of food options because they wanted you back in the casino gambling. One of the biggest licenses to print money in Vegas are the nightclubs and dayclubs that nearly all casinos on the Strip have. You think room service prices for food and drinks are steep, the prices at clubs are even higher if you're get a table in a club. In recent years, I've started to spend more money on meals than I used to on trips to Vegas (same goes with drinks as well, although I am not above drinking cheap when I'm out there).


User currently offlinepar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 6727 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1418 times:

I have stayed at Caesars and Planet Hollywood, both nice rooms and different crowd demographics, did not spend much time in the hotels so not much advise there, other than food can be a bit expensive on the strip, better to wonder down and stay up late to eat, it gets cheaper  

If they still have them I recommend the boat / raft ride down the Grand Canyon, it takes a couple hours but with a good guide the history of the region / river is a must - if you like history. Last tour I did started at the dam and went down river to a nice restaurant where the bus pick up was located.

Expect the show especially the musical ones to set up back a bit, but they are usually well worth it, as for the magicians, every hotel had one last trip so you won't have to see the same act more than once.

Do your spotting from the Strastrohpere if you have a long lens, view of the city is well worth the cost of the ride to the top.
Sorry to hear about the roller coaster, that was a once in a lifetime thrill ride going up and taking the slide off the building.


User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1199 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

I have been to Vegas three times in the last year alone, every single time for business because some conference was there. Despite some of the best conferences in the industry I work in being there, I don't know if I'll waste any more of my life in that awful city.

Don't go. It's a waste, and IMHO the whole city is just a sad reflection on the state of humanity. I wasn't sure if I should laugh or cry when I saw people on the edge of death sitting at slot machines pumping the $100 bills in. I don't get it, and by the downfallen looks on the faces of those people, they don't get it either. If I go somewhere on vacation, I want to have fun. Not a single person I saw in front of a slot machine was smiling. Most people walking on the strip were trying to act like they were the boss of the place. Vegas is all show, nothing more. I prefer reality. And that's not all - the whole city smells like a dump, most of the casinos are unbelievably dirty (no, fancy chandeliers does not make a dirty, disgusting firetrap a "nice place"), is a tourist trap of the highest order... I could go on and on and on.

But, you'll go. So, in order to not totally rain on your parade: check out prices at the Aria. I have only been to Vegas on business, so I don't know if the rooms are more or less than other places, but the Aria is new, clean (this is a huge requirement of mine if I go to Vegas), and have some cool technological features. The Aria is much nicer than the MGM Grand or the Belagio, which are some of the other places I have stayed. Again, I was never paying, so I can only comment on quality, not value or cost. Other than that, I have no idea.

Don't write me off as some old guy who doesn't know how to have fun. I'm 22. Vegas is an unfortunate place. You can get hammered in your home town and save the expensive trip to go somewhere that is enjoyable, and you'd be better off for doing that. Just my 2 cents.



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1379 times:

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 22):
Don't write me off as some old guy who doesn't know how to have fun. I'm 22. Vegas is an unfortunate place. You can get hammered in your home town and save the expensive trip to go somewhere that is enjoyable, and you'd be better off for doing that. Just my 2 cents.

Rubbish. Vegas is fun. I went there last year and didn't drink or gamble much and still had a great time.

Quoting Geezer (Reply 18):

Best load of non-sense I've seen in a while. Oh and way to overuse inverted commas.


User currently offlinecorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2525 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1370 times:

We usually go a couple times a year to get away and will have stayed at Wynn/Encore every time ever since we first wandered in a few years ago. You feel like you are in a completely different world and in my opinion nothing comes close. The clubs are great, restaurants are great, pool is fantastic, the list just goes on and on.

The first poster had the best advice- get on the mailing list of the different places and follow them on fb and twitter to get exclusive deals. There are always always always deals to be had in Vegas. For the Wynn we generally go when we get an offer and generally it is somerhing like 139/night, stay 2 nights and get 2 free, plus 100-200 bucks in casino credit.

As far as the Pawn Stars place ive been there twice and both times a few of the people from the show were there talking to fans. I guess it is hit or miss.

Read everyrhing the others have said and youll have a great time... Well except for the one about staying at the Imperial Palace, couldnt pay me enough to stay there haha


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