Impacto From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 213 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1363 times:
I am really excited about watching the upcoming movie "Flight", especially since it stars one of my favourite actor Denzel Washington. Washington in a flight based movie means heaven on Earth for me! Looks like one those twisted movies. I find the aircraft used in the movie rather interesting! An MD-80 with winglets!!
The reviews are looking good so far. I will get back to you guys tomorrow after I have seen it to let know what I thought.
DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 5297 posts, RR: 47 Reply 1, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1300 times:
I don't know... I saw the trailer where the plane was crashing and the altimeter (that displays MSL mind you) wound down to... 0 MSL... I raged (and doubt they were at sea level.)
Probably still will go see it, but I'll have my guard up and will find every flaw in the movie
AF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 572 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1291 times:
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 1): Probably still will go see it, but I'll have my guard up and will find every flaw in the movie
Then you're going to have a terrible time... No realism in this movie I'm afraid. I mean, c'mon, rolling a wingleted MD-80 inverted to land it? Hum.
THAT BEING SAID the plot looks interesting and if we manage to disconnect ourselves from the blatant unrealism of the aviation parts of the movie, it should be pretty good.
DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 5297 posts, RR: 47 Reply 3, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1286 times:
Quoting AF1624 (Reply 2): Then you're going to have a terrible time... No realism in this movie I'm afraid. I mean, c'mon, rolling a wingleted MD-80 inverted to land it? Hum.
Actually I'm often surprised at what these big birds can do. They've barrel rolled a 707 before, a Fedex DC-10 or MD-11 (forgot) almost got hijacked and flew at like 140 degrees inverted, a P-3 (Navy's version of the L-188) had some kind of problem and they pulled a whopping NINE Gs and saved the aircraft... but yeah this is still probably BS
I'm gonna point out everything wrong mostly to annoy my roommate who already said he doesn't want to see it with me (LOL) but I have low standards for movies and I'll probably enjoy it, despite that altimeter hitting 0 part kgshgjshgkjdh
flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6294 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1276 times:
Quoting AF1624 (Reply 2): Then you're going to have a terrible time... No realism in this movie I'm afraid. I mean, c'mon, rolling a wingleted MD-80 inverted to land it? Hum.
I am confident any airline can do a roll.
I will see. Was planning on seeing it tomorrow night, its first night out but I just realized there are two heat games this weekend one I want to watch and one I want to go to. Not sure if I will just DVR the game tomorrow night. I already warned my girlfriend that after the movie I will find all the mistakes and complain about them but overall it should be a fun movie to watch. Honestly sometimes the mistakes make aviation movies and news articles etc.. more fun. If it was perfect realism well then there is nothing for us to do but watch like everyone else. Where is the fun in that?
I am already impressed in that they have an MD-80 (yes with winglets) but from the trailer it is a correct MD-80 cockpit. At least what I have seen so far. I wont be surprised to see shots of 737 Engine Instruments and A320 overheads though. The legal aspects will be interesting to me also.
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
jetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2021 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1253 times:
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My buddies and I were planning on seeing it tomorrow night. 3 pilots in an airplane movie is not gonna be good for the people around us. Though I suppose I am going more for the plot than anything. Should be interesting!
Blue
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DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 5297 posts, RR: 47 Reply 6, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1243 times:
Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 5):
My buddies and I were planning on seeing it tomorrow night. 3 pilots in an airplane movie is not gonna be good for the people around us.
I'm gonna see it in Milton or Pensacola, FL... you wanna see a movie theater with a bunch of pilot (wannabes in training) come here, it should be interesting lol
AviRaider From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 161 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1239 times:
Quoting AF1624 (Reply 2): Then you're going to have a terrible time... No realism in this movie I'm afraid. I mean, c'mon, rolling a wingleted MD-80 inverted to land it? Hum.
The ill fated Alaska Airlines Flight 261, an MD-82, flew inverted before crashing. So it's not completely out of the realm of logic, but movies do have to take some liberties of course.
It looks good, I do plan on seeing it. Boy, Denzel sure does love his transportation related roles, doesn't he? He has been, a submarine commander, subway dispatcher, police officer, train engineer, and now airline pilot.
Stabilator From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 487 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1191 times:
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 6): I'm gonna see it in Milton or Pensacola, FL... you wanna see a movie theater with a bunch of pilot (wannabes in training) come here, it should be interesting lol
Haha my sister's boyfriend is in Naval Officer training down there. He just got back to Pensicola from Corpus. He's a rotar head though so I'm sure he'll find it entertaining. Me, as a fixed-wing, was cringing throughout the entire trailer. Denzel, stick to high school football, please.
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LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22028 posts, RR: 51 Reply 10, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1143 times:
ALPA is not a fan of the movie --
ALPA Statement on the New Drama Film “Flight”
The Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l (ALPA), issued the following statement regarding the release of the drama film called “Flight.”
“Hollywood dramas can make riveting entertainment and a compelling character study may sell tickets, but fiction on a movie screen doesn’t represent a profession in the real world.
“The more than fifty thousand ALPA pilots in the United States and Canada embody the highest possible standards of training and professionalism.
“These standards are borne out every day, as we safely transport hundreds of thousands of passengers and tens of thousands of tons of cargo across the country and around the world.
“We all enjoy being entertained, but a thrilling tale should not be mistaken for the true story of extraordinary safety and professionalism among airline pilots.”
Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union, representing nearly 51,000 professional pilots at 35 airlines in the United States and Canada.
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EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1123 times:
After reading a few reviews if your going to see this as an aviation thriller you will be sadly mistaken. The movie is about a drug and alcohol addict and the hidden second life he leads. It sounds like very little is about the accident and more about the demons of addiction
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KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12026 posts, RR: 43 Reply 13, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1031 times:
Going to it tonight. Told the wife if she wants me to go to "Lincoln" and "Twilight" with her, she's going to "Flight" with me
jetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2021 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 989 times:
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Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 13): Told the wife if she wants me to go to "Lincoln" and "Twilight" with her, she's going to "Flight" with me
Twilight! You poor bugger! My mother dragged my stepfather to it telling him it was a vampire movie. He was thinking it was going to be awesome. He was sound asleep by minute 15!
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 11): After reading a few reviews if your going to see this as an aviation thriller you will be sadly mistaken. The movie is about a drug and alcohol addict and the hidden second life he leads. It sounds like very little is about the accident and more about the demons of addiction
That's kind of a bummer! Hopefully the story behind it is still good though. I think I may still check it out tonight.
Blue
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DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16814 posts, RR: 57 Reply 15, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 986 times:
Quoting AviRaider (Reply 7):
The ill fated Alaska Airlines Flight 261, an MD-82, flew inverted before crashing. So it's not completely out of the realm of logic, but movies do have to take some liberties of course.
Yes, but then it crashed. Few airliners have ever inverted and survived. Remember, surviving is the important part.
TW800 flew in two or three pieces before it crashed and even gained altitude; that doesn't mean an aircraft can survive loss of the fuselage forward of the wings.
KDTWflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 807 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 897 times:
Just got back from seeing the movie as well and I thought it was pretty good; some of the aviation parts of it seemed pretty accurate. The cause of the accident immediately reminded me of the AS accident back in 2000. Overall I'd recommend it.
Cadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1408 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (6 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 875 times:
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 3): I'm gonna point out everything wrong mostly to annoy my roommate who already said he doesn't want to see it with me
None of my friends from college would see a movie with me that had anything to do with the military or aviation because I had (and still do have) a bad habit of doing just that.
All I can say is I hope DL isn't too current with their IFE offerings on long range flights...that would not be a good movie to show on a flight based on what I've seen from the previews.
Impacto From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 213 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 827 times:
Saw the movie last night and I must say it was well worthwhile just as I expected it to be. Denzel was outstanding as usual (Very convincing pilot!), good storyline and plot, had some funny and intense moments especially during the plane crash and the ending of the movie. Yes its true that the movie was more about a character study than the plane crash itself, but I found myself still enjoying how things played out the for the character. The plane crash scene in particular was very well done.
Overall a good movie with a bit of a surprise ending for me, but still highly recommended
I will say B+
Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 13): Going to it tonight. Told the wife if she wants me to go to "Lincoln" and "Twilight" with her, she's going to "Flight" with me
Yikes! There is only one favour my GF can do for me to make me go watch Twilight with her!!
D L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10557 posts, RR: 53 Reply 20, posted (6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 823 times:
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Quoting AF1624 (Reply 2): I mean, c'mon, rolling a wingleted MD-80 inverted to land it? Hum.
That's not what happens.
(Not going to spoil the rest.)
I saw it last night. It was a very good movie that will leave true aviation fans hungry, if that's why you go to see it. It is a very compelling story, and aviation fans will have to suspend some disbelief, but not the disbelief that you might be thinking of right now. You'll be surprised at the accuracy of some things.
As for a wingletted MD-80, I imagine that if they used a real plane, certain manufacturers would have a real problem with this movie.
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 10): ALPA is not a fan of the movie --
Oh, I bet! Having seen the movie, you can absolutely state that Pilots unions around the world will hate hate hate the plot of this movie. But not for the aviation.
Braniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2623 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 801 times:
It was a good film, although there were several aviation-related oddeties.
Quoting D L X (Reply 20): I think it's AS261 + Atlantic Southeast 529.
Exactly my thoughts.
The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16814 posts, RR: 57 Reply 22, posted (6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 795 times:
Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 18): All I can say is I hope DL isn't too current with their IFE offerings on long range flights...that would not be a good movie to show on a flight based on what I've seen from the previews.
Yeah, I'm guessing the movie's producers figured that they weren't selling it to any airlines.
jetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2021 posts, RR: 1 Reply 26, posted (6 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 718 times:
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I thought the movie was excellent. Not so much an aviation movie though. I think the story was good and Denzel was excellent.
Blue
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AviRaider From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 161 posts, RR: 0 Reply 27, posted (6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 612 times:
Quoting D L X (Reply 20): The movie's production has stated 261 was an influence. I think it's AS261 + Atlantic Southeast 529.
It also felt like SAS 751 crash, which involved an MD80. In that incident the plane lost both engines to ice ingestions and landed in a field breaking apart. In that incident a large credit was put on the pilot for trying to identify the problem and swiftly putting it down on an open field amongst a forested area, thus saving lives. This incident was not without some controversy though, I believe it was concluded that inproper wrangling of the surging engines by the pilot exacerbated the problem causing them to shut down.
I was impressed with the movie. It really did try to get the aviation aspects correct to a wide degree. As other have stated though, it's really about the character and him battling his demons, so to speak. What really struck me and I thought was cool, was when the plane lost both engines and was gliding, the movie accurately portrayed the sounds of silence and the pilot's initial reaction to that. I remeber watching so many of those air crash investigations shows, and the pilots and passengers always are struck by how quite it gets with no engines, it leaves a lasting impression on them.
DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 5297 posts, RR: 47 Reply 29, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 594 times:
I saw it yesterday... I was very skeptical but I think they did an extremely good job. I'm impressed. I'm not a real pilot yet, and only have ~50 hours, but everything seemed to really line up.
Something I did find kind of weird was the part about them going full nose down only created a sinkrate of 4800fpm... it would be a LOT more than that! Maybe I heard incorrectly
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