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What's Up With SS United States And The QE2 Now?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

What's up with SS United States and the QE2 now? Will they be scrapped?

Can't the administrators overturn the agreement with Cunard and sell QE2 to a cruise company and let it cruise for another 10 years?

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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Can't the administrators overturn the agreement with Cunard and sell QE2 to a cruise company and let it cruise for another 10 years?

Which administrators? The QE2 was sold and title transferred over four years ago.

I don't know which cruise company would want to use her. She was an amazing ship, but her design, accomodations and staff needs are far behind current cruise industry designs.

She is significantly short on passenger staterooms with balconies or verandas - something essential to today's cruise market.

Her crew accommodations are especially dated and sub-standard by current trends.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
What's up with SS United States and the QE2 now? Will they be scrapped?

There is already a thread about

Ex-Cunard QE2 Ocean Liner: Endgame? (by MadameConcorde Oct 17 2012 in Non Aviation)

There is not any chance that Her Shipness ever take passengers on cruises again. She does not comply with the latest SOLAS regulations.

She is still docked at Port Rashid in Dubai waiting for an uncertain future.

She was put in dry dock and repainted some time ago. She looks well although no one is allowed inside so we don't know what is left. There is a minimal crew on board but from what I have heard they don't live on the Ship. She has some of her lights on at night - the funnel is nicely lit - making her visible from a distance, especially from the air.

These are the latest pictures as of 27 October 2012
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ex-crew...72157631863801955/with/8127581805/

We have a Facebook group with lots of interesting pictures and documents.
" QE2 The Legend - the greatest ship ever "
The group was created by Louis de Souza. He worked on board a number of years and he knows the Ship really well. All are welcome to join and participate.

I will be in Dubai next week so I will go around and see if I can get access to the cruise terminal. If anyone happens to read this post and knows someone who works at Port Rashid and can get me in, please contact me by private message or via the Facebook group.

        

[Edited 2012-11-11 08:48:55]


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 2):
There is not any chance that Her Shipness ever take passengers on cruises again. She does not comply with the latest SOLAS regulations.

Can she be upgraded? Guess it's possible but it will cost a lot right?


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

Everything is possible provided there is an investor showing up with a lot of money.

The Ship is at a stand still in the same place several years now. I suppose that if there was an investor, someone/a company or corporation with a true interest for the Ship he (or she) would have made an offer to the owners to take over the Ship and refurbish her completely for cruising or other purposes.

It has not happened in all that time, of course there is always the dreamers who think they can turn her into a casino in Macau or a floating hotel somewhere else in Asia but no viable projects are still known of. Considering the state of the world economy I doubt there is any chance that a new buyer will come with a viable plan for the Ship.

If something official had come up in all that time she's been in Dubai I think we would all know by now.

What will Nakheel do and how many more years they will keep her docked on that pier in Dubai is anyone's guess.

      



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 3):
Can she be upgraded?

Sure - however they might have to completely gut her to do it.

And it would certainly cost two to four times as much as building a new ship from the keel up.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

I believe the staff accommodation look horrible. Can anyone confirm that?

When Cunard sold her to Dubai they had an agreement saying that she cannot pick passengers. Wonder if this can be overturned. What about river cruises? Or can she cruise like SS Norway etc?


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7303 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 3):
Can she be upgraded? Guess it's possible but it will cost a lot right?

Why would you waste money upgrading a ship which will never sail in passanger service again, that was also one of the terms of sale, the best thing to happen to both ships is to run them upm a beach in South East Asia and scrap them.

The SS United States is basically a hulk, she's been rotting away for decades, there is n ot life left in her, she really should be scrapped. The cost to make her sail again would be akin to building a new vessel, no cruise line is going to throw away money on an outdated ship which just wouldn't cut it in today market.


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