MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8422 posts, RR: 13 Posted (7 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
I'd like to see Notre Dame get donkey stomped by Alabama (to use an LSU euphemism for winning) even though the thought of Bama winning another legit national title makes me wanna Especially since Alabama claims 1973 as one of their 14 national championships even though Notre Dame beat them 24-23 in the Sugar Bowl that year.
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 1, posted (7 months 18 hours ago) and read 1150 times:
I don't get the BCS (a totally flawed format that's broken) bowls and how the selectin works. If ND can go to the National Title Game as an Independant, then why couldn't Boise State play in a BCS game, like they could have in 2005 (I think....the Fiesta Bowl win over Oklahoma)?
Boise State got shafted that year going undefeated. I prefer we have a playoff format instead.
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GSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 351 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 months 18 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
The winner of the SEC championship (barring either team losing this week) will go to the National Championship game. This means Georgia, who my Gamecocks beat the Hell out of 35-7, has a chance to win the title. I will be so pissed if that happens.
And Notre Dame will go, barring a loss to Southern Cal this weekend. I just read Barkley is out, so I don't see Notre Dame losing, but who knows. No one saw Oregon and K-State losing this past weekend.
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 1): I don't get the BCS (a totally flawed format that's broken) bowls and how the selectin works. If ND can go to the National Title Game as an Independant, then why couldn't Boise State play in a BCS game, like they could have in 2005 (I think....the Fiesta Bowl win over Oklahoma)?
Boise State got shafted that year going undefeated. I prefer we have a playoff format instead.
Simply, strength of schedule. Boise usually plays 1 BCS Automatic Qualifier school per season, and it's always at a neutral site. Notre Dame plays Southern Cal, Stanford, Michigan, Michigan State, Oklahoma, and Purdue. That's not an easy schedule.
Not saying that's right, but that's how they do it. I feel like any undefeated team should have a shot at the National Championship. The system pisses me off because their argument for keeping it is "the regular season is like the playoffs." In that case, wouldn't you be eliminated with one loss? I really hated the 2008 season, when Florida (who had one loss, at home, against an unranked team) played for, and won, the national championship, while an undefeated Utah team beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.
casinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3336 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (7 months 17 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 2): s means Georgia, who my Gamecocks beat the Hell out of 35-7, has a chance to win the title. I will be so pissed if that happens.
Well, ,my Gators spanked you guys 44-11 and then lost to Georgian 9-17.
The BCS will go nuts should Notre Dame lose this week. The winner of the SEC championship might have to play Florida, if Florida beats Florida state.
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gatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 704 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 months 16 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter): I'd like to see Notre Dame get donkey stomped by Alabama (to use an LSU euphemism for winning) even though the thought of Bama winning another legit national title makes me wanna
I hate that I have to pull for Lane Kiffin, although they have very little chance with Barkley out. ND truly had the luck of the Irish against Stanford and Pitt.
Any of the top 6 teams have the potential to play in the BCS championship game. The next few weeks could be very interesting!
iFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 388 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (7 months 15 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
What I don't get is how Oregon fell to 5th when the same thing happened to Alabama and they only fell to 4th..
But for the national championship, I just don't want the SEC to win it again.. I'm tired of them.
dl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11435 posts, RR: 81 Reply 7, posted (7 months 14 hours ago) and read 1150 times:
The difference between Notre Dames schedule and Boise State's is night and day. The weight of the schedule is so different in college that the some of the ideas ideas folks have about pro-style playoffs making everything right and fair are fantasy. There is a playoff system needed, but NCAA football still needs ranking systems to achieve any measure of reatlity to the outcomes for the seasons.
An SEC schedule beats the hell out of most others, and there is no other team that deliberately schedules their seasons like Notre Dame....just not that many patsies they put up there. Love them or hate them, and it seems to be one or the other, they play a real schedule and for them to be undefeated at this point indicates that they're a great team. My Bulldogs are ranked 3rd and I have to admit that they're not as solid a third as ND is a first. That said, it's pretty cool that UGA controls it's own destiny right now. Three large hurdles to clear, and anyone discounting the rivalry with GaTech is just being contrary....those kids are UP for this game....and then Alabama at the SEC championship, but it's doable. One game at a time.
Gatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 704 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 months 11 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 5): Quoting gatorman96 (Reply 4):
I hate that I have to pull for Lane Kiffin, although they have very little chance with Barkley out.
We would have very little chance with Barkley in.
Agreed, but considering my allegiance, I am trying to view this weekend half glass very full...
Quoting dl021 (Reply 7): Three large hurdles to clear, and anyone discounting the rivalry with GaTech is just being contrary....those kids are UP for this game
Especially with what is now at stake for UGA. Ga Tech will bring the heat. Fortunately it is a home game for you.
Ken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7525 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (7 months 10 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
I'll go with Notre Dame this year. There is going to be a while before anyone else gets on my list. Probably Alabama - just so Notre Dame can take them down
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 10, posted (7 months 10 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 6): I just don't want the SEC to win it again.. I'm tired of them.
You, me and millions of other college football fans!
Some of you brought up the strength of schedule. I'm not buying that. Strength of schedule should not matter as not everyone's schedule is fairly balanced out. It's stupid.
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MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8422 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (7 months 10 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
Quoting casinterest (Reply 3): The BCS will go nuts should Notre Dame lose this week. The winner of the SEC championship might have to play Florida, if Florida beats Florida state.
And my god would the rest of the nation hate us for it.
ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4055 posts, RR: 23 Reply 12, posted (7 months 7 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 6): What I don't get is how Oregon fell to 5th when the same thing happened to Alabama and they only fell to 4th..
But for the national championship, I just don't want the SEC to win it again.. I'm tired of them.
Agree with what you are saying. The SEC also does it scheduling well. They back load the cupcakes at the end of the season to pad things. Whereas most of the other school are finishing out conference play this time of year. Look at how many FCS schools the SEC played this past week. It is all about securing BCS rights and Heisman standings.
As far as bias in the polls, if we took out the humans completely and just looked at the computers the last three weeks, this is what we get. The number in parenthesis is their actual ranking with humans.
So what this tells me is voters definitely want the SEC more than anything. The computers are trying to correct it by actually following what they are doing on the field. Though I don't really agree in Alabama jumped 2 spots for beating an FCS team, it is what it is.
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Gatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 704 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (7 months 5 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 10): Some of you brought up the strength of schedule. I'm not buying that. Strength of schedule should not matter as not everyone's schedule is fairly balanced out. It's stupid.
So what other metric should the BCS use? Are you telling me that a one loss K State team is equal to a one loss Bama team? In the last decade, the SEC has beaten Oklahoma in '03, OSU in '06 and '07, Oklahoma in '08, Texas '09, Oregon '10, and LSU in '11. Sure you're bored of the SEC, but until a team outside the SEC wins the NC, how can anyone complain when the SEC is in the end of the season BCS mix?
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12590 posts, RR: 64 Reply 16, posted (7 months 5 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 1): why couldn't Boise State play in a BCS game
If Boise State would stop scheduling the majority of their games against the likes of East Upchuck State Tech they might actually get some BCS respect. Until then...
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jpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4258 posts, RR: 29 Reply 22, posted (7 months 4 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
More or less, strength of schedule acts as tiebreakers between similar teams. Of course some teams can't really compete if their conference is poor or in a down year. But if SOS is not an important factor at the top, what should be?
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 23, posted (7 months 4 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 22): But if SOS is not an important factor at the top, what should be?
I'm glad you asked! Record and offensive points earned. That would solve sime if the tie breaker problems.
This is why I hate the SOS argument: Stanford beats Oregon. Oregon is obviously the better team, right? But they lost that game. SOS does not apply here, IMO, it's how the team performs on the field and their record.
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jpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4258 posts, RR: 29 Reply 24, posted (7 months 4 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 23):
I'm glad you asked! Record and offensive points earned. That would solve sime if the tie breaker problems.
That's kind of a crazy idea.
Say, for purpose of discussion, Louisiana Tech had beaten Utah State on Saturday and got to 10-1. They're in a bad conference, have't beaten a ranked team, but have scored more points than anyone in the country. You're saying they should then be #2 and playing Notre Dame in the national championship game?
Your idea would absolutely destroy college football.
26 jpetekyxmd80: First off, you are severely biased against defense with your points scored tiebreaker. Some of the best teams are focused around their defense, and do
27 Gatorman96: Eh? Total points proves nothing. Do you honestly think Oregon would score the same amount of points if they played in the SEC or Big 10 for that matt
28 Gatorman96: It's as good as it will get without a playoff system...Let's not forget Ohio State though. If they weren't on probation, OSU/ND would be the frontrun
29 iFlyLOTs: Are we forgetting that the Big 10 has the likes of mighty Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, and Minnesota in it? Oregon beat ASU which at the time had
30 Gatorman96: If Oregon was in the Big 10 (or 18, whatever they are now), the defenses of Penn State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, MSU, Michigan, would adjust and adapt to
31 nonrevman: I will just be happy if it is not SEC vs SEC. The only thing worse than an SEC team in the big game again would be a rematch of two of them.
32 dl021: according to non-SEC fans who secretly wish their teams were playing in the best conference in college football but are more secretly happier that th
33 doug_Or: This combined with using student players instead of unpaid professionals is why I respect ND. And that's coming from a Boilermaker.
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Especially since Alabama claims 1973 as one of their 14 national championships even though Notre Dame beat them 24-23 in the Sugar Bowl that year.
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