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Angus Jones: "Stop Watching Two And A Half Men"  
User currently offlineitsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3958 times:

http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11...lf-men-my-show-is-filth/?hpt=hp_t2

What gets into these Hollywood egomaniacs? If this were the 60's or 70's, I would attribute this spewage by Angus T. Jones, the "Half" on "Two And A Half Men" to drugs and a "bad trip" but this is 2012 and the current drug of choice doesn't typically result in this type of meltdown. After becoming a multimillionaire thanks to "Men", he wants us to believe he "wants off the show". Really Angus? Then what's keeping you there? Gee, could it be the $4 million a season you're making for playing an idiot juvenile delinquent stoner with a room temperature IQ? Hell, my dog could play that role, and he's senile, deaf, mostly blind and pees on the carpet on a regular basis. In the interview, Jones says the show is "filth". Here's a suggestion Angus: If you truly feel that way, then how about if you give back all the millions of dollars of "filthy" money you've made filming such a Satan driven show? What a tool.

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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6240 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3934 times:
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1. The show is practically worthless since Charles Sheen´s been gone.
2. The "Jake" character is meaningless now. Just as "Judith" is. The cute kid grew up. He is a mistake now. They sent him to the army, they should have killed him there.
3. Salary renegotiation season is on in Burbank now?
4. He wants out of his contract for whatever reason, with a juicy indemnization?
5. Another child star that bites the dust?


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10048 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3929 times:
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Quoting AR385 (Reply 1):
1. The show is worthless

Fixed that for you.  

Sounds pretty dumb, but I can't disagree with him. Everyone should stop watching that show. But not for his reasons. It's just a terrible show.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6240 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3881 times:
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Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 2):
Fixed that for you.

I don´t agree with you. The first few seasons made it a pretty good show. The later ones, not so much. Still, when Sheen was fired it just became worthless.


User currently offlinenighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5157 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3864 times:

Don't worry Jake, I stopped watching when Charlie left anyway. It's a completely different show now with Walden instead of Charlie. The whole point of the show was Charlie womanising, drinking, abusing his brother and hating his mother. Secretly we probably all looked up to Charlie and wished we lived that lifestyle.

All of that is gone now with Walden, who is just another version of Alan. Who would look up to that? He might be rich, but he's weak and pathetic.

[Edited 2012-11-27 01:09:42]


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User currently offlineAF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3794 times:

Same opinion here.

Ever since Charlie Sheen left the show's been crap. I also believe that one of the reasons Charlie Sheen left is because he knew the show was over anyway in terms of the answer to the "where do we go from here" question.

Plus, I'm sorry, but Ashton Kutcher is just bad actor. He is, no matter how you look at it. He failed at the movies, and is now failing in a bad sitcom.

Really, they should just pull the plug on it and come up with something new.

And that Angus T. Jones guy, with his religious drivel in that video, should just stop acting then.

[Edited 2012-11-27 02:58:26]


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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7443 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3761 times:

Quoting AF1624 (Reply 5):
He failed at the movies, and is now failing in a bad sitcom.

He failed at the movies, first I've heard of this.


User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3969 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3758 times:

This sounds like a typical case of manipulation to me - he visits a Bible camp for a few weeks and all of a sudden is front and center as part of their anti-TV campaign? That doesn't sound completely ethical to me...

User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3742 times:

I think there are several background issues Angus Jones may be dealing with that has caused his current attitude of turning away from Two and A Half Men

His character was always treated as a 'dumbass', a poor student, socially clumsy and surrounded by terrible role models. Most don't like being that kind of character for so long.
He is pretty much become typecast from his TV role so may be limited in his adult acting opportunities.
He missed out on a 'normal' life like going to school, developing social skills (especially with women), being in sports or other activities.
One has to wonder if he, like many grown-up child stars, is in conflict with his parents who probably accepted the idea of him in a very adult show as I am quite sure they became addicted to the cuts of his pay for 'expenses' and managing of his income. As he is now over 18, he is rebelling like many teens as to his parents' control of his life.
Maybe too, although very rich in money, his life was empty of any real meaning, that it just was living a job with huge hours of time for years on end on the set, seeing a borderline cult religion as giving him some meaning.

I just hope he doesn't give this religious group any money, he finds happiness with a good companion, he can continue in acting in better and more challenging roles and we don't hear of him dying of drugs/alcohol abuse.


User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1367 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3709 times:

Quoting itsjustme (Thread starter):
Really Angus? Then what's keeping you there? Gee, could it be the $4 million a season you're making for playing an idiot juvenile delinquent stoner with a room temperature IQ?

He may be contractually obligated to work for a set amount of time. If so, it's not exactly the easiest thing to get out of.

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 4):
Secretly we probably all looked up to Charlie and wished we lived that lifestyle.

Secretly, huh?



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User currently offlineAF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3706 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 6):
He failed at the movies, first I've heard of this.

Well... name me one good movie he's in?

Further to that, one good movie he's been in in the past say... two-three years?

This is just my opinion, but really, I see him as an actor whose roles have been given to him just for his looks and nothing else. And even the looks aren't enough for him to get decent roles today.



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4636 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3687 times:

I'd almost feel sorry for the kid, if he didn't have so much money for many of the reasons in your post

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 8):

His age and upbringing leads me to write this off as manipulation and youthful ignorance of the way the world works. He will wake up in 15 years and be on one of those where are they now shows working through anger and isolation issues.

Oh well. Hopefully the Social Media backlash will speed his wake up call.



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User currently offlineAviRaider From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3658 times:

He's entitiled to his new found opinion. I applaud him for standing up for his convictions not alot of people will do that in Hollywood. I do have to agree with him, that much on television today is eroding our moral sensibilities. He has contractual obligations so he can't just up and walk away and since this is just breaking it's too early for people to be calling him out as a hypocrite or being greedy. His true test will be, to see if he "practices what he preaches," what he does with all that money he will be collecting from a show that he considers vile and evil now that his opinions have changed. Another true test of his moral character will be what will he do after he leaves the show, will he leave the industry?

He can list out his convictions 'till he is blue in the face before a Christian audience, but can he stand behind those convictions in the secular world?

[Edited 2012-11-27 06:31:06]

User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7443 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3645 times:

Quoting AF1624 (Reply 10):
Well... name me one good movie he's in?

Further to that, one good movie he's been in in the past say... two-three years?

No idea, but he's still making movies, which means that movies with him still make money, which probably means he's not a flop as a movie star. He also landed the role of Steve Jobs in the movie Jobs.


User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2800 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3563 times:
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I couldn't believe it when I read that. $300,000 an episode to do basically nothing. He plays almost no role in the show anymore and he goes ahead and blurts this out. He looked up to his "Uncle Charlie" and flipped out. All I have to say if they decide to finally pull the plug is good riddance. I loved the show when Charlie Sheen on it. I never missed an episode, but this is just killing what was a great show.
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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5628 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3539 times:

Apparently abusing alcohol & drugs, and religion & religious fervor has a similar effects.....

Charlie meet Angus, Angus meet Charlie....

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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6049 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3510 times:

This reminds me of the antics that Kirk Cameron did after he found Jesus while working on Growing Pains. I'm sure Angus is a great guy, but probably won't be fun to work around.


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3505 times:

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 9):
He may be contractually obligated to work for a set amount of time. If so, it's not exactly the easiest thing to get out of.

I agree with this statement. I think Jones is just trying to find a different way to get out of his contract. Sure, the guy is making great money doing the show, but when Sheen out of the picture that changes EVERYTHING. The show is not the same anymore after Sheen gone. Enter Ashton. No fault of his, but adding Ashton the show replacing Sheen just butchers it.

The producers of "Men" took a huge, HUGE gamble in getting rid of Sheen and replacing him with someone else. To me, that has backfired pretty bad on their part. They have themselves to blame for this than Ashton, Sheen and Jones. It goes to show that they did not think this one thoroughly.

I say let Jones out of his contract. Let him go do something else. After all, he deserves it with all the hell the producers put him through.



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User currently offlineitsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3467 times:

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 9):
He may be contractually obligated to work for a set amount of time. If so, it's not exactly the easiest thing to get out of.

In May of this year, CBS renewed the contracts for Jones, Kuthcer, and Cryer for one year. They're currently filming episodes which will start airing after the first of the year. That means Jones should be free to leave when this round of filming is completed. Being a firm believer that actions speak louder than words, I'm curious to see if, come next May Jones truly leaves the show and his multimillion dollar salary.


User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3387 times:

Let's see if he's willing to put his money where is mouth is by not cashing the remaining paychecks he will get for the rest of this season. Same with any royalty checks he may be getting as well.

Just another child actor going off the grid in their own way once they become adults.

I wonder if he'll launch his own "violent torpedo of truth" sort of tour that visits churches around the country and rants about the show and the folks behind it?


User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5399 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3370 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 19):
Let's see if he's willing to put his money where is mouth is by not cashing the remaining paychecks he will get for the rest of this season. Same with any royalty checks he may be getting as well.

Precisely what I was thinking. So essentially Jones pulls a Sheen without having any of the fun Sheen had in the process? Lame. Come on, Angus, at least get a few "goddesses" out of this instead of this nutball

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...rerunner-chronicles_n_2198853.html



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User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1367 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 17):

The producers of "Men" took a huge, HUGE gamble in getting rid of Sheen and replacing him with someone else. To me, that has backfired pretty bad on their part. They have themselves to blame for this than Ashton, Sheen and Jones. It goes to show that they did not think this one thoroughly.

It didn't work out for "8 rules" either. You're right, they should have just let it drop right there.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3334 times:

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 20):
So essentially Jones pulls a Sheen.....

I think the rant Sheen had was much worse than what Jones did, which was pretty much nothing. Sheen has a very storied history, while Jones does not. With that said, I disagree with you.



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User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5399 posts, RR: 53
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3327 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 22):
I think the rant Sheen had was much worse than what Jones did, which was pretty much nothing.

By pulling a Sheen I meant leaving the show for whatever reason. Jones' rant is definitely milder than Sheen's. Still I'll take one of Charlie's goddesses over that whacked out pastor!



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3324 times:

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 23):
By pulling a Sheen I meant leaving the show for whatever reason.

Uh, Sheen was fired from his show. Sheen did not leave the show on his own. We are seeing two completely different events with "Men".



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User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7305 posts, RR: 85
Reply 25, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3379 times:
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The show has sucked since Sheen left.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 13):
No idea, but he's still making movies, which means that movies with him still make money,

Go check IMDB; Kutcher films, based on budget, don't make any money. Dude Where's My Car? The Bosses Daughter? Idiot wanted a paycheck and got one when he wasn't leaching off his hot milf ex-wife Demi Moore. Funny that Chuck Lorre thought Kutch would survive in Two & Half Men replacing Sheen.

This Jones kid whose parents must hate him naming him Angus could still carve out a nice career in Hollywood on the big screen. I'm not gonna write him off because some crazy radical preacher got in his head.


User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1367 posts, RR: 3
Reply 26, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3370 times:

Quoting fxramper (Reply 25):
Funny that Chuck Lorre thought Kutch would survive in Two & Half Men replacing Sheen.

In fairness to Chuck, maybe he know the show was a dead man walking, and now relegated to a jobs program. Think it might be possible Ashton was the best name they could get on short notice? After all, with his resume, he pretty much has to be available.

[Edited 2012-11-27 15:31:47]


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User currently offlinesturmovik From India, joined May 2007, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

Quoting AF1624 (Reply 10):
Well... name me one good movie he's in?

No matter how much money it made, I thought "Dude, where's my car?" was epic 
Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 13):
He also landed the role of Steve Jobs in the movie Jobs.

I do agree that he sucks, though. And I dunno how he's going to pull off the Jobs movie. It might turn out like Lindsay Lohan playing Elizabeth Taylor, which according to most reviews was terrible.



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User currently offlineitsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 28, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3307 times:

Well, Jones is already back pedaling. He must have finally returned his accountant's calls.

http://news.yahoo.com/two-half-men-actor-apologizes-022918218.html


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7919 posts, RR: 52
Reply 29, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3304 times:

Quoting itsjustme (Reply 28):
Well, Jones is already back pedaling. He must have finally returned his accountant's calls.

This really pisses me off. People make controversial comments they really are passionate about then quickly "apologize." He's not sorry. If he was sorry, he wouldn't say it. This applies to any public figure: either keep your thoughts to yourself or stick to your guns. This apologizing, toe-the-line business is aggravating.

Or maybe it's just me...



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11678 posts, RR: 15
Reply 30, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 29):
Or maybe it's just me...

I thought the same thing. So he has an opinion. So what? Why the uproar? Don't apologize for your opinion. Own it.



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User currently offlineitsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 31, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 30):
Don't apologize for your opinion. Own it.

I agree but when "owning it" will more than likely cost you several million dollars, suddenly owning it seems pretty expensive.


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6240 posts, RR: 31
Reply 32, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3281 times:
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Excerpt:

Jones said he felt drawn to God after a tough time in his life when his parents were going through a divorce and he experimented with drugs.

"I never drank," he said. "That was one thing God protected me from, and I'm still a virgin. God protected me from those things."

Well then, that´s all fine and dandy. He did drugs but he never drank alcohol and he still is a virgin. Somebody ought to show this kid the door. This kind of Hollywood crap remains beyond me.


User currently offlineitsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 33, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3266 times:

What a tool. He has decided to sign another contract for, what will be $8 million and he has the balls to attribute it to God being the driving source behind his decision: "I don’t think I would have been on the show if God hadn’t kind of pushed me into it."

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...-1.1209252?localLinksEnabled=false


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7443 posts, RR: 5
Reply 34, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

Quoting fxramper (Reply 25):
Go check IMDB; Kutcher films, based on budget, don't make any money.

Kinda backfired on you ramper, IMDB showed most of his movies have more than covered the budget, here's a sample:

No String Attached, budget 25m, gross 147m

New Year Eve, budget 56m, gross 142m

Dude Where's My Car, budget 13m, gross 47m

The Butterfly Effect, budget 13m, gross 96m

What Happens in Vegas, budget 35m, gross 80m

The only flop I could find was Killers. Lets face it the target audience for Kutcher isn't men, it's teenagers and young women.

Quoting sturmovik (Reply 27):
No matter how much money it made, I thought "Dude, where's my car?" was epic

Turns out it made a decent profit, see above


User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4820 posts, RR: 26
Reply 35, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3208 times:
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You guys are really being harsh on this guy. I feel sorry for him. The kid GREW UP in this business. His sense of reality is very different than your average person. He doesn't know anything other than being in the spotlight and making shit tons of money. Can you really hold that against him? He likely didn't have anything to do with the decision to enter show business. That's on his parents.

I mean really, think of all the spoiled kids you knew growing up. Heck, from many attitudes in these forums I'd say anet is full of spoiled brats. But anyway, when someone grows up spoiled, or privileged, they don't know any other way. It's not their fault, is it? Now some eventually get a reality check. Who knows...Perhaps this will be his? But until then, they don't know any different.

Yeah his comments come off as a little nuts. But geez, you have to keep things in perspective.

[Edited 2012-11-28 00:58:22]


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User currently offlinenighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5157 posts, RR: 33
Reply 36, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3205 times:

"I never drank," he said. "That was one thing God protected me from, and I'm still a virgin. God protected me from those things."

No wonder the dude's going crazy!



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 37, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3180 times:

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 9):
Quoting nighthawk (Reply 4):
Secretly we probably all looked up to Charlie and wished we lived that lifestyle.

Secretly, huh?

LOL!

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 14):
I loved the show when Charlie Sheen on it. I never missed an episode, but this is just killing what was a great show.

Amen to that bro!



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7443 posts, RR: 5
Reply 38, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3169 times:

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 36):
and I'm still a virgin

That I find hard to believe, I'm pretty sure there would be a crap load of chicks just waiting to be banged by a Hollywood guy even a dosch like Angus.


User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1838 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3139 times:
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From what I read, it sounds like Cryer and Kelso (sorry, i couldn't resist the That 70s Show reference) also only have a year left on their contracts, so I'm thinking the show's probably going to get canceled. The show might be able to go on without Charlie, but you can't sub in another character for Jake, he is Alan's son afterall, unless by some miracle Jake is killed off and Walden finds out he has a son he never knew about.


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User currently offlinemal787 From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3135 times:
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well he got me before he made this comment. Unlike a lot of my friends I do not find 2.5 men . Big Bang or any f these cheesy sit coms funny, But I must ask what is he going to do with all of the money he has from this , give it to the church to cleanse young minds?
Do us all a big favor stop making this crap so Aussie channels don't but it as " the funniest show ever"
and Angus get a life the church will take your money , but will not save your soul or make life better,
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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5486 posts, RR: 13
Reply 41, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2992 times:

I heard the church of SCientology is pissed they missed a great potential recruit (Angus). Sadly he's biting the hand that feeds him quite well. Let him just muff dive into Lindsay L and they can go off together in the sunset of the screwed up. I agree, the show isn't the same with Ashton instead of Charlie. But, the housekeeper Birta reminds me of a co-worker to the T! and she has some of the funniest lines. And amazingly some of the hottest looking chicks appear on 2 and a Half Men. Go figure. And I really feel the character of Alan is really a tightly wound in the closet Gay Man. A good ending send off would have him falling for his true love which would be an Asian Lady Bay who doesn't want to get his/her cajones turned inside out into a beaver.


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 42, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days ago) and read 2828 times:
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Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 9):
He may be contractually obligated to work for a set amount of time. If so, it's not exactly the easiest thing to get out of.



A contract is not prison. Leaving would surely have financial repercussions but if it was what he truly wanted to do lawyers could minimize that. This here just makes him sound hypocritical. Sure as others have said he is standing up for what he believes in but if that were really the case this rant would have been concluded with his announcement that he is leaving the show. Not the half-attempt at backpedaling he was doing in the days following. So in short if you don't like what you are doing stop doing it. Will there be monitary reprcussions certainly, but at least he will have some room for negotiaons. Buy doing this the hard way he may end up voiding his contract and being forced to pay what the studio determines. I was always taught never slam a door behind you because you never know when you may need to go back through it.



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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 43, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2825 times:

Even when the show is off the air he will still be getting residual checks. Wonder if he's going to keep them or send them back?

User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 44, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2787 times:

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 43):
Even when the show is off the air he will still be getting residual checks. Wonder if he's going to keep them or send them back?

Maybe he could bankroll and be an executive producer of a more 'moral', family friendly program for some 2nd or 3rd rate cable/dish network. Besides, this show is not likely to last beyond this season and he is going to need a new job anyway.


User currently offlineDarkSnowyNight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1367 posts, RR: 3
Reply 45, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2784 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 30):

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 29):
Or maybe it's just me...

I thought the same thing. So he has an opinion. So what? Why the uproar? Don't apologize for your opinion. Own it.

I'll agree with that too. I have a reputation for being outspoken at times (I know, we're all shocked), though normally, for somewhat casual matters. Nevertheless, there was a time when I found myself referring to my supervisor's boss as an "an ill-tempered hypocritical stump." My timing could have been better; she wasn't amused, & I was eventually asked to write out an apology.

I wasn't there when she opened the letter, which consisted of only two lines.

Yup, I said that. And don't you forget it!

-DarkSnowyNight



Had I been an A.netter at the time, there most certainly would have been a "Self-Gloss, just got sacked!" thread. It was that worth it.

Quoting itsjustme (Reply 31):

I agree but when "owning it" will more than likely cost you several million dollars, suddenly owning it seems pretty expensive.

I'll agree with that too. As I mentioned above, I've bore out the consequences of such things myself. But there's something that feels pretty good about walking out the front door (as opposed to being quietly shoved out the back for "unrelated reasons" a few months later anyway). The idea is just to make damned sure it's worth it first!

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 42):
Sure as others have said he is standing up for what he believes in but if that were really the case this rant would have been concluded with his announcement that he is leaving the show.

I agree with this. If it means that much, act on it. There's not enough bold in this HTML format to express how much I HATE when folks say something, get some push over it, and then immediately fall all over themselves to backpedal on the issue.

I'd have had a lot more respect for that Arlington Cemetery woman (from that other thread), if she'd said either nothing at all, or something to the effect of "you sods need to get over yourselves already." But instead, mushy, insincere and half baked apology letter. Guess what? Still fired anyway. So yeah, I guess I'm in the "own it or go home" camp.



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7919 posts, RR: 52
Reply 46, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2736 times:

Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 45):
I'd have had a lot more respect for that Arlington Cemetery woman (from that other thread), if she'd said either nothing at all, or something to the effect of "you sods need to get over yourselves already." But instead, mushy, insincere and half baked apology letter. Guess what? Still fired anyway. So yeah, I guess I'm in the "own it or go home" camp.

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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5486 posts, RR: 13
Reply 47, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2629 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 44):

Look for Angus to be a contestant on Dancing With The Stars in a year or two. Or, he could join the Donald's Cluster F*ck show Celebrity Apprentice.



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User currently offlinekiwiinoz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 48, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2495 times:

I have a very high IQ. It constantly comes up in testing.

It confuses me, as sometimes, in day to day dealings with people, I don't perceive myself to be any smarter than others. Quite the opposite sometimes in fact. It used to leave me wondering how this so called intelligence would present itself

Then, one day I watched "Two and a Half Men" And I was astounded. It amazed me that this show could be so popular. And then I realised it. There are lots and lots of really dumb people out there, and they watch this show. And it makes them even dumber, and more misogynistic. They bring the average IQ of the human race down, (hence, I appear smarter)

Don't get me wrong, I love low-brow humour but even slapstick comedy is cleverly crafted using timing, clever language, and even a touch of irony. This show was just contrived humour for the weak mind.

So yes, whatever his motivation, please please please take his advice. Save yourselves, and stop watching the show.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 49, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2417 times:

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 48):
So yes, whatever his motivation, please please please take his advice. Save yourselves, and stop watching the show.

Oh, no worries. I stopped watching the show the second Sheen got fired. It was a great show at first, but after Sheen was dismissed, I knew it was going to go downhill fast, and I was right.



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User currently offlinekiwiinoz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 50, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2339 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 49):
Oh, no worries. I stopped watching the show the second Sheen got fired. It was a great show at first, but after Sheen was dismissed, I knew it was going to go downhill fast, and I was right.

No. Was bad then too. Hard to go downhill from rock bottom


User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3383 posts, RR: 9
Reply 51, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 9):
He may be contractually obligated to work for a set amount of time. If so, it's not exactly the easiest thing to get out of.

Insulting Chuck Lorre seemed to work for Charlie.

Quoting AF1624 (Reply 10):
This is just my opinion, but really, I see him as an actor whose roles have been given to him just for his looks and nothing else. And even the looks aren't enough for him to get decent roles today.

He has his thing as an actor which is playing the class clown type of role. He doesn't have a range as an actor and hasn't taken on serious roles yet.

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 21):
It didn't work out for "8 rules" either. You're right, they should have just let it drop right there.

Regarding 8 rules it was very unfortunate what happened there, that would have had a pretty good run had John Ritter not passed away  .

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 26):
In fairness to Chuck, maybe he know the show was a dead man walking, and now relegated to a jobs program. Think it might be possible Ashton was the best name they could get on short notice? After all, with his resume, he pretty much has to be available.

It's not a show I watch anymore but considering its timeslot it still has an audience, my bet is one more year and its done.



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User currently offlineitsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 52, posted (1 year 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 48):
There are lots and lots of really dumb people out there, and they watch this show.

I find your post extremely offensive and condescending. You have a high IQ? So what? IQ doesn't automatically translate to common sense, a sense of humor, or humility. Seeing as "Men" was one of, and sometimes THE highest rated TV shows while Sheen was a regular indicates even highly superior people such as yourself watched it. Hello. It's a TV "show". A lot of times, we watch TV for entertainment and, whether you agree or not, "Men" was and, given its current ratings, apparently still is entertaining to a lot of people. Lighten up a little, eh?


User currently offlinekiwiinoz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 53, posted (1 year 10 months 4 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

Quoting itsjustme (Reply 52):
IQ doesn't automatically translate to common sense, a sense of humor, or humility.

I didn't imply that it did.

Quoting itsjustme (Reply 52):
Seeing as "Men" was one of, and sometimes THE highest rated TV shows while Sheen was a regular indicates even highly superior people such as yourself watched it.

I never implied that I was superior, merely intelligent. Trust me, I have plenty of shortcomings that more than compensate for this. And anyway, your statement is not true, (on the available evidence anyway). Just because a large numer or people watched it does not mean that every segment of the IQ scale watched it.

Quoting itsjustme (Reply 52):
A lot of times, we watch TV for entertainment and, whether you agree or not, "Men" was and, given its current ratings, apparently still is entertaining to a lot of people. Lighten up a little, eh?

I am actually a pretty "light" guy. And, as I said, I don't mind light humour. But I also believe that what we watch is not just entertainment. It has an impact on culture and psyche. And I believe this show as a negative impact on those who watch it.

Quoting itsjustme (Reply 52):
I find your post extremely offensive and condescending.

Oh it is definitely condescending, (on the basis of intelligence anyway). I regret that you are offended but I think you should be more concerned about whether or not there is any substance to what I and others have had to say on the matter


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7919 posts, RR: 52
Reply 54, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

Quoting itsjustme (Reply 52):
I find your post extremely offensive and condescending. You have a high IQ? So what? IQ doesn't automatically translate to common sense, a sense of humor, or humility.

   It's definitely a really pompous attitude. I don't like the show, and I've tested extremely high on various tests myself, but I'm not going to go around bragging about it, and more importantly, I know that people have different opinions and senses of humor. I don't think I even need to go on... surely someone with a "high IQ" can understand that people find different things funny, and just because a smart person thinks a show is dumb doesn't make everyone who watches it dumb



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