DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 23760 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2371 times:
Quoting casinterest (Reply 3): I am sure the numbers comparison would show that the subway is safer than driving in Florida with loud music....do we have a thread on that yet?
Safer than being Black and young in Florida in general. Apparently being Black and young gets you shot in "self defense" because being Black and young is apparently a life-threatening behavior towards men who are White and middle-aged. After all, Trayvon Martin wasn't driving.
Which is good news. PHX787 is merely young, so he has nothing to worry about!
In any event, you are generally quite safe on the NYC subway. You are surrounded by witnesses and usually they will be willing to help if you're genuinely in trouble.
Newark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1501 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2277 times:
Crazy people on public transit is definitely a thing, but in New York at least the subway is an excellent way to get around. I wouldn't base whether or not I use a transit service based on who rides it except in rather extreme circumstances, after all as my great-grandmother said the roads are full of "damn fools and jackasses."
Cargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1289 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2259 times:
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1): Well when I am in the big apple, i tend to avoid the subway altogether And any other form of mass transit.
You must spend a great deal of money on rental cars and cabs, or you must never go there, because not using mass transit requires cash - and lots of it. I know, since I have owned and stored multiple cars in NYC (as many as five at a time) and I lived there for 27 years, the majority of them in "the bad old days."
I can say for certain that it's very safe there nowadays - one of the safest big cities in the country, and in fact, it is arguably safer than it has ever been. Crimes like this are at a fifty year low in NYC - and prior to that, statistics get unreliable.
If you think the subway is dangerous in 2012, you'd have really been scared of it in 1987.
fr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6705 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2248 times:
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1): Well when I am in the big apple, i tend to avoid the subway altogether And any other form of mass transit. You see this too often these days.
The only reason I would avoid the subway in NY is because I rode it everyday for over 8 years, while in school. And, everywhere my parents wanted us to go before that. It no longer intrigues me. I'll ride it if suits my mission for the day, but I'd just as soon drive or be driven. Traffic isn't that bad if you know your way around and know what places to avoid.
You want to see a dangerous subway system...look at the NYC Subway system in the 70's and 80's.