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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7688 posts, RR: 21
Posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2727 times:
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Couldn't see this posted, apologies if I missed it.

The Duchess of Cambridge is expecting a child - so congrats to the happy couple. It is significant because this child will succeed to the throne after William, regardless of sex - as detailed in the article here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20600543

Personally, I think it's about time we had a funkily-named monarch, so here's hoping for something slightly more unusual in the naming department (wishful thinking, I know).

Anyway, Kate has been hospitalised the last couple of days owing to severe pregnancy-related sickness. Here's hoping she'll be fine.


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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2716 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2722 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
Anyway, Kate has been hospitalised the last couple of days owing to severe pregnancy-related sickness. Here's hoping she'll be fine.

Yes, Congrats to them both.         

They say her severe morning sickness is due to the fact that she may be pregnant with twins, Oh the nappies !!!



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User currently offlinehOMSaR From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2717 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 1):
They say her severe morning sickness is due to the fact that she may be pregnant with twins

If this were to actually happen, then I presume that the first one out gets the throne?



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2716 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2704 times:

Quoting hOMSaR (Reply 2):
If this were to actually happen, then I presume that the first one out gets the throne?

Correct !



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1830 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
Personally, I think it's about time we had a funkily-named monarch, so here's hoping for something slightly more unusual in the naming department (wishful thinking, I know).

The bookies are already all over it: http://www.entertainmentwise.com/new...al-Baby-Names-Sex-and-Hair-Colour-

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
Anyway, Kate has been hospitalised the last couple of days owing to severe pregnancy-related sickness. Here's hoping she'll be fine.

I heard on the news this evening that her hospitalization was the only reason they disclosed that she was pregnant. Her original plan was to tell the family at Christmas. The same news report said that the Queen was only told the good news about half an hour before the media knew!

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 3):
Quoting hOMSaR (Reply 2):
If this were to actually happen, then I presume that the first one out gets the throne?

Correct !

That would certainly make for a very bitter second-born!



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7184 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2694 times:

Ohh boy, more hype   sure this baby's going to be the next monarch, but seriously, watch the US do something, such as, knock off Kim Jong-Un right after this baby's birth   


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7688 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2690 times:
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Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 4):

The bookies are already all over it
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5):
Ohh boy, more hype

Indeed.....I am preparing myself for months on end of reading about little but 'royal baby this' and 'royal baby that' in the news here.....



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13031 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

This potential person of the throne may not make there until they are in their 70's or about 2080 or so, considering the longevity of his ancestors.
Please, give mom and dad their privacy and the media go away.


User currently onlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2948 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2677 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 4):
That would certainly make for a very bitter second-born!

Or a very bitter first born. The second born will get everything the first born gets except the same relentless degree of scrutiny and pressure for their entire lives that the crown brings.

Sure there would be expectations placed on both, but you just have to look at Diana vs Sarah Fergusen to see how differently the future successor and his/her siblings are seen/treated ( and yes I know that the situations were very different).


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7688 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2678 times:
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Quoting ltbewr (Reply 7):
Please, give mom and dad their privacy and the media go away.

Privacy? Well, in relative terms at least, here's hoping. As for the press going away? Never, just not going to happen - more's the pity.



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User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16245 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

Yes, congrats to the Royal couple.

I hope the child inherits HER looks and HER intelligence. I can't think of too much genetic contribution from William would benefit this child. I'm a Monarchist but not overly impressed with William.

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 1):
They say her severe morning sickness is due to the fact that she may be pregnant with twins

I hear another cause was her low body weight which can contribute to severe morning sickness. There is a medical term for this which escapes me.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6520 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2644 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
It is significant because this child will succeed to the throne after William, regardless of sex

I don't see how that's significant, there is a queen right now isn't it ?

As for succeeding, well, we have many decades to live before that may happen !



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6129 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2640 times:
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Quoting Aesma (Reply 11):
As for succeeding, well, we have many decades to live before that may happen !

So many, that I will surely won´t be around to see it. Kinda funny feeling.



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User currently offlinecws818 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1176 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5):
sure this baby's going to be the next monarch

Third-in-line, actually. Charles is poised to be the next monarch.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5):
but seriously, watch the US do something, such as, knock off Kim Jong-Un right after this baby's birth   

I fail to see how those two potential events are even remotely related or why they would ever be.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7184 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2613 times:

Quoting cws818 (Reply 13):
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5):
but seriously, watch the US do something, such as, knock off Kim Jong-Un right after this baby's birth

I fail to see how those two potential events are even remotely related or why they would ever be.

After the royal wedding, we took out Bin Laden.

     



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User currently onlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2948 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2598 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 11):
I don't see how that's significant, there is a queen right now isn't it ?

If the Queen had a younger brother then he would have been King. She is only Queen because there were no male offspring.

The new laws that are going through now mean that the eldest child will be the successor regardless of their gender.


User currently offlinenighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5126 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2595 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 11):
I don't see how that's significant, there is a queen right now isn't it ?

It is significant because up until recently, a daughter would only be heir to the throne if she had no male siblings. If her parents later had a male child, she would rank below her younger brother.

If this baby is born a girl then it will be 3rd in line to the throne regardless of any other siblings, whereas before she would only be third in line as long as William didn't give birth to a subsequent male child.



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12380 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2548 times:
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And the giveafuck-o-meter is registering a big fat zero. This may change slightly if we get a public holiday to celebrate the birth (very unlikely).


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7688 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2520 times:
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Quoting Aesma (Reply 11):
I don't see how that's significant, there is a queen right now isn't it ?

As others have pointed out - only because she had no male sibling.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 17):
And the giveafuck-o-meter is registering a big fat zero. This may change slightly if we get a public holiday to celebrate the birth (very unlikely).

I sympathise with this view. Nonetheless, a significant bit of news that I felt was worthy of a bit of discussion, not least to find out how many other people were pretty underwhelmed by it.



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User currently offlineflipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2515 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 14):
After the royal wedding, we took out Bin Laden.

We? I had no idea you were part of that mission, I suppose you hd to keep it very secret.

Congratulations toboth of them. I think they will make great parents.

Fred


User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1830 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2473 times:

Quoting slider (Reply 20):
DDDOOOOOOOONNN'TTTTT CAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRREE.

So just ignore it then? Unless that is you wouldn't mind us going into the droves of pointless American-related threads on here and voicing our lack of interest in those topics.

Quoting qf002 (Reply 8):
Or a very bitter first born. The second born will get everything the first born gets except the same relentless degree of scrutiny and pressure for their entire lives that the crown brings.

That's a good point. But title seems to be fairly important to this group, so I would assume that it will always be with the second-born that they were minutes from being one step ahead in line.

But we don't even know if it's twins yet, so we're arguing a hypothetical here.

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 10):
I hope the child inherits HER looks and HER intelligence. I can't think of too much genetic contribution from William would benefit this child. I'm a Monarchist but not overly impressed with William.

Genetic contribution from William: Better judgement than Harry.  



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7184 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2460 times:

Quoting flipdewaf (Reply 19):
We? I had no idea you were part of that mission, I suppose you hd to keep it very secret.

"We" as a collective term for the US.



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8187 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

Congrats!         

I believe ti's great news. I can see all the little old ladies already starting to knit booties for the baby.

Overall I can see this boosting the people's confidence in the UK. Good news does seem to improve a lot of things.

In terms of benefitting the UK, there is going to be a LOT of souvenirs & commemorative plates on the market, bringing in a lot of money.

And tourists. Look for a banner year of tourists flooding the UK. We will probably go, but that has ben planned since I had enough miles.  


User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2628 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
Personally, I think it's about time we had a funkily-named monarch, so here's hoping for something slightly more unusual in the naming department

When I was a kid, I used to think that males in the royal family weren't allowed to have a name other than Edward, George, Henry, Charles, or Richard.

I suppose it is OK if RussianJet gets his way and they name the baby "Sunshine Space-Tweezers."



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User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2596 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2390 times:
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Congratulations to the Royal couple on the expectant birth of the new third in line to the throne  
Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
Personally, I think it's about time we had a funkily-named monarch

I have a feeling that if the child is female, she'll be named Diana in honour of the late Princess Diana.

I don't think we should have a funkily named monarch, personally, but maybe it's because I'm too old fashioned  



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25 KiwiRob : Maybe one of her names but not her first name, that would be stupid and sure to create problems.
26 mariner : I hope not. I think the expectations heaped on the child, especially by the media, would be awful. mariner
27 Post contains images zkojq : I was visiting some old folks today...they couldn't talk about anything other than the royal foetus. More seriously, I wonder what will be left of the
28 na : Nice to hear, I wish all three involved a happy time ahead! One cant say that the Windsors do have much problems these days. Absolutely agreed, a roya
29 CXB77L : That's a fair point. I sincerely hope that no one has to go through the sort of attention and invasions of privacy that Diana had to endure. Could be
30 na : Interesting. Perhaps the change to become a Republic doesnt change anything to the positive. From far away, I cant see anything that would make life
31 pellegrine : I'm sick of Anglo-Saxons already.
32 SmittyOne : "There are only two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures...and the Dutch." - Austin "Danger" Powe
33 babybus : The Royals don't want privacy. It's the media attention that keeps them on the throne. Wills and his brother are groomed to have constant newsworthy
34 SmittyOne : I'm a Kate Middleton fan!
35 Bongodog1964 : We now have 7 months of media frenzy to look forward to. Waiting in the queue to buy my morning paper yesterday and a man in front of me was moaning t
36 pvjin : Oh no, now media will be full of useless hype even in here Finland... I hope it won't be as bad and annoying as when Swedish royal family got a new me
37 na : There will surely be a Media overkill, I just hope they leave them a little privacy. But the less official news, the more lies the Yellow Press will
38 Aesma : BTW, I heard the TV say the conception happened in France, don't know if it's true but it would be funny.
39 TheCommodore : Not always enough control it would seem.... Remember a few weeks ago in the worlds press corp. The topless pics of Kate, while they were on holiday.
40 RussianJet : Probably not there, but you never know. But here, in the UK where I was born and brought up, and live, it will be in the press a lot. That was the fo
41 thegreatRDU : Congrats to the "royals" haha I cannot even type that with a straight face...
42 slider : Amen. I'd love to, except it's freaking everywhere. The media just immerses itself in this royal crapola incessantly and it's everywhere. I've never
43 Post contains images CXB77L : Not here on A.net it's not. There's just this one single thread. You can choose not to click on it. That just shows your lack of knowledge on the sub
44 slider : So please correct me then if I'm mistaken.
45 na : Why then do you waste some minutes to write such a long post and even come back later? The expert speaks...
46 mariner : The unborn child's father and future uncle are both working - by choice - in the military, with one of them in the front line in Afghanistan and an a
47 pellegrine : Ok well I'm not intolerant of anyone's culture. I don't think US news needs to dominate on this...understandable if British news chooses to. Even if
48 CXB77L : Members of the British Royal Family have traditionally served - and indeed are expected to serve - in the military. Prince William is a RAF Rescue He
49 wolverine : I don't understand what this hype is all about. She's pregnant, so what? All the best for her and her kid! But just because she is married to a Royal
50 Post contains images mariner : LOL - for anyone living within a constitutional monarchy, it is a bit special. It assures the succession. As to the celebrity aspect of it, who knows
51 RussianJet : Yup. The Royal Family here are, by definition, special - so yes.
52 Post contains images zkojq : Myself as well, but things could have changed in 60-70 years time. I hope they don't. I like this system as the vast majority of the population likes
53 Aesma : Monarchies only work thanks to history, they can't appear out of thin air (I mean in our current world, in the past they did). So by definition they'r
54 zkojq : In practice it makes very little difference. This is not an absolute monarchy what we are talking about. Maybe several hundred years ago, but much of
55 mariner : That's a curious idea. No person is "worth" more than any other just because they are royal. As head of state, the monarch (in the UK) is the represe
56 na : Calm down. The world is full of overrated people and things. Very good said. It has something to it that the head of state isnt a politician who marc
57 RussianJet : It wasn't all that long ago that Bokasa made himself emperor of the CAR. Admittedly his reign wasn't a resounding success....
58 Post contains images Quokkas : The Queen (in the UK) is representative of the British State, not the people. While the monarch may be above party politics, she is not outside of po
59 mariner : Well - yes. Any head of state is representative of that state. I don't know what else the term means. In this instance, as established with the Civil
60 zippyjet : I wish them the best but I don't give a rat's pattotty about the royals (pain in the you know what) I've already had enough of the hype
61 slider : Bully for you. Enjoy being subservient to another by choice. I understand that--and I appreciate the history of this, which goes back to kings riding
62 Post contains links CXB77L : Who said anything about being subservient? In a Constitutional Monarchy, the Monarch reigns by consent of Parliament, but the Monarch does not 'rule'
63 slider : Don't know if I agree on that one one bit. Is there an economic impact statement? I've been to London numerous times and all of my activities have no
64 mariner : You seem to have a very medieval concept of the monarchy. I respect the office, and the woman presently holding it, in ways I doubt I would respect a
65 Quokkas : Would they actually need to? There have been reports in the British media covering how Prince Charles has used his position to block developments tha
66 mariner : I'd need to know a lot more about it than you have provided to make an assessment of it. Morrissey (again) has proclaimed the the royal family is dir
67 Quokkas : I don't know who this Morrissey is but the Guardian has published several reports on how the Prince of Wales has used his powers. They have also reve
68 Post contains links mariner : I didn't dispute that it may have happened. Almost any person in a position of power, perceived or actual, can persuade others to their point of view
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