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Sen. Jim DeMint Resigning  
User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2760 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint is stepping down at the end of the year to take over the Heritage Foundation.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...l-step-down-from-senate/?hpt=hp_t3

Anyone else think he's setting himself up for a run for President in 2016?

With Obama winning reelection and the Democrats strengthing their position in the Senate he's looking at four years that won't look great on a resume during a presidental election. Either he compromises and burns bridges he's built in the conservative camp which is bad in the primary, or he holds the conservative line and gets painted as an obstructionist in the general election. This seems like a good way to stay plugged into the conservative base of the party and avoid further building a voting record that can be used against him in four years.


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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6656 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2369 times:

A run for the GOP or Tea Party primary maybe, but I doubt the former would be stupid enough to nominate him !


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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12559 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2359 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 1):
A run for the GOP or Tea Party primary maybe, but I doubt the former would be stupid enough to nominate him !

They nominated Romney, who outside of one good debate performance was a disaster.

Please don't underestimate the GOP! 



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8272 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2312 times:

Quoting Alias1024 (Thread starter):
Anyone else think he's setting himself up for a run for President in 2016?

I doubt that. He is far too right to be acceptable to the majority of voters and the GOP knows it. Especially after the last group of primary candidates.

Quoting Aesma (Reply 1):

A run for the GOP or Tea Party primary maybe,

I think he bailed because the Tea Party is looking weaker these days. It also might be helpful to look at his new compensation package. I can see Mr. DeMint ending up a wealthy man.


User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2305 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 3):
I can see Mr. DeMint ending up a wealthy man.

I wonder if he'll also turn around and become a lobbyist too.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19706 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2295 times:

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 4):
I wonder if he'll also turn around and become a lobbyist too.

What do you think the President of the Heritage Foundation is?


User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2280 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):

What do you think the President of the Heritage Foundation is?

Captain of the voyage to the Nonsense Planet?   


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19706 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2267 times:

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 6):
Captain of the voyage to the Nonsense Planet?   

I mean, besides that.  


User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3450 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2235 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
What do you think the President of the Heritage Foundation is?

The largest conservative think tank in America.

www.heritage.org



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13113 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

Maybe he hears footsteps of scandal coming closer to him. Better to leave before it breaks, go to a nice high paying gig as a major lobbyist. Maybe he 'wants to spend more time with his family' instead of spending most of his waking hours raising money for his next political race and for other Republicans races. Political critics note DeMint was actually a very weak Senator, with few bills sponsored with his name and mainly a supporter of the general Republican policies.

Apparently the Republican Governor of SC can appoint a replacement for DeMint. I wish they would appoint a fiscal and social moderate, not some friend of the Tea Party. A possible appointment could be a current SC State Senator, an African-American Republican, which would mean finally breaking the all white lock on the current US Senate. I am not sure if that person would be in office for the remaining part of DeMint's unfilled term or if a special election would be held in a set time or at the next major state election or with the next November general election.


User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5395 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 9):
A possible appointment could be a current SC State Senator,

That's Congressman Tim Scott, who represents South Carolina's First Congressional District in the US House of Representatives - he's not and has never been a state senator. He's well-loved by the tea party types - in the Republican primaries in 2010 he managed to defeat the son of one of South Carolina's most popular former governors, Carroll Campbell, as well as Strom Thurmond's son, Paul. Not easy things to do in that state. I'm not a fan of his politics, personally. Another rumor I've come across is that Haley will resign as governor and strike a deal with the Lt. Gov, Glen McConnell that he'll appoint her for DeMint's Senate seat once she resigns.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12559 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

It shows DeMint is a fraud. He was elected to serve the people of SC for a full term, and he's leaving not to take a job of public service or to run for a higher office, but to line his pockets.


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User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5395 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 11):
He was elected to serve the people of SC for a full term

He's never exactly been about service to the people of South Carolina...



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User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2322 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 9):
I am not sure if that person would be in office for the remaining part of DeMint's unfilled term or if a special election would be held in a set time or at the next major state election or with the next November general election.

Whoever is appointed will serve for two years. In November 2014, the seat will come up for election, for the remaining two years of the term, and the appointee can choose to run at that time to retain the seat. In 2016, the seat will come up for election in its normal 6-year cycle.



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User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2721 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 8):
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
What do you think the President of the Heritage Foundation is?

The largest conservative think tank in America.

www.heritage.org

Bill Maher: "New Rule: You don't get to call yourself a think tank if all your ideas are stupid."

From 2007:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcrtjkb5Jf4



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11350 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

Quoting Alias1024 (Thread starter):
Anyone else think he's setting himself up for a run for President in 2016?

Not a chance.

He has no national bona fides other than being a behind-the-scenes Tea Party puppeteer. But even then, he's no Michele Bachmann.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 3):
I think he bailed because the Tea Party is looking weaker these days.

This is the reason. His power and influence is at its apogee in the Senate -- to maintain or grow, he had to go.



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7908 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2174 times:

Geez, just because he's a congressman with different opinions than some of our own doesn't mean he's automatically doing something sleazy or corrupt. Some of you guys are going off the deep end here, kinda like how some people assume everything the President does is corrupt.

Maybe he has some cynical motive, or maybe he really does want to help his cause out or spend time with his family or whatever



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User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6816 posts, RR: 34
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

I was shocked to have heard this; DeMint is a true conservative and unapologetically so. Damn shame to see his voice gone. I thinkt he GOP's internecine war will only continue with his departure.

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 10):
Tim Scott

Would LOVE Tim Scott...solid, solid pick.

NRO had a brief rundown of potential successors:
http://www.nationalreview.com/campai...t/334980/contenders-replace-demint


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21631 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 16):
Geez, just because he's a congressman with different opinions than some of our own doesn't mean he's automatically doing something sleazy or corrupt.

I don't know about corrupt, but the reasoning he used to vote against ratifying the UN disabilities treaty (which is basically the same as what US law is) - a general distrust for the UN - was pretty sleazy.

I don't wish him any ill, but I'm not sad to see him go.

-Mir



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User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5395 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

Quoting slider (Reply 17):
I thinkt he GOP's internecine war will only continue with his departure.

Or it will abate somewhat. Let's not forget that DeMint was one of the worst out there for backing hardline tea party challengers to compromise-minded Republicans like Specter and Crist. As a former South Carolinian who voted against him, I, for one, am glad to see him gone.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6656 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 2):
They nominated Romney, who outside of one good debate performance was a disaster.

Please don't underestimate the GOP!

Well he was a decent candidate, very hurt by having to toe the party line and flip flop between the primaries and the election.

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 10):
Another rumor I've come across is that Haley will resign as governor and strike a deal with the Lt. Gov, Glen McConnell that he'll appoint her for DeMint's Senate seat once she resigns.

Would that fly with the electorate ? Especially Tea Party types that don't really like politicians to begin with.

Quoting slider (Reply 17):
DeMint is a true conservative and unapologetically so

But then again he supports things that he should clearly be apologetic about.



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User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5395 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 20):

Would that fly with the electorate ? Especially Tea Party types that don't really like politicians to begin with.

She's recently said she wouldn't do it, but I could see it fly. She does poll well with the Tea Party types and it would allow her to escape some of the heat in SC she's been facing over a massive data breach that compromised the social security numbers of millions of South Carolinians.

The problem is that SC uses a system where Governor and Lt. Governor aren't elected on a single ticket, so the current Lieutenant Governor, Glenn McConnell, doesn't have a particularly strong affinity for Haley - in fact they've regularly clashed in the past and don't get along. On top of that, it would elevate McConnell to governor despite being unelected to either the governorship OR the lieutenant governorship (McConnell became Lieutenant Governor when former Lieutenant Governor Ken Ard resigned in March due to ethics violations. McConnell, as the President Pro Tempore of the State Senate, stepped up to become Lieutenant Governor). There's also the fact that McConnell has a little bit of a neo-Confederate problem. He's spoken the praises of the Confederate flag, was photographed at a party dressed as a Confederate general along with two black people dressed as slaves (McConnell is also a Civil War reenactor), and has openly stated the state needs to start its own "naval militia." I think he's a little too cuckoo even for SC to stomach as governor for the remainder of Haley's term, especially considering he would have slid into the position unelected.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5604 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2127 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 15):
Quoting Ken777 (Reply 3):I think he bailed because the Tea Party is looking weaker these days.

This is the reason. His power and influence is at its apogee in the Senate -- to maintain or grow, he had to go.

I suspect it is also to remove himself from the current tax increase debate and "preserve" his image as a staunch anti-tx person in case he ever does eek higher office.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 16):
Geez, just because he's a congressman with different opinions than some of our own doesn't mean he's automatically doing something sleazy or corrupt. Some of you guys are going off the deep end here, kinda like how some people assume everything the President does is corrupt.

Maybe he has some cynical motive, or maybe he really does want to help his cause out or spend time with his family or whatever

This was all planned well in advance. There have been several other Republican's doing similar where their seat is essentially safe and will be filled by another Republican. They ran for reelection as part of a plan to keep and increase the Republican presence in the legislature (which did not come to fruition) even though they were already planning to do something else this year because you want to run a strong "known name" campaign and not have to try to run an unknown which takes more money to get the electorate familiar with and to favor. The Republican's would have been at risk to likely lose more seats if more new names ran.

Tugg



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8272 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2120 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 9):
Apparently the Republican Governor of SC can appoint a replacement for DeMint. I wish they would appoint a fiscal and social moderate, not some friend of the Tea Party.

This is going to be a critical choice for her - especially with her election coming up. I've read that there is going to be a unique election there in 2014 - BOTH Senators and the governor on the ballot at the same time. That has to impact how she goes about naming DeMint's replacement.

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 9):
Apparently the Republican Governor of SC can appoint a replacement for DeMint. I wish they would appoint a fiscal and social moderate, not some friend of the Tea Party.

That is where the challenge comes in. How did the last election go in SC? What impacts could any shift have on the Governor's office with her election coming up?

Quoting slider (Reply 17):

I was shocked to have heard this; DeMint is a true conservative and unapologetically so. Damn shame to see his voice gone.

I've thought of him as one of the bullies in the Senate. A worst example of a Tea Party wingnut who puts cash over country.


User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 23):
I've thought of him as one of the bullies in the Senate. A worst example of a Tea Party wingnut who puts cash over country.

You know I was almost persuaded to vote democrat. After all I lost my job at NWA after 17 yrs and the corporate raiders forced me and my friends to the street.. But you see I am an Asthmatic and I use a little over the counter product called Primatine Mist..Well the democrats and environmentalist zealots forced it off the market. It was THE only over the counter relief for those of us with Asthma. All of this stemmed from the propellant in this inhaler is a CFC. So I can see them getting the R12 for refrigerators off the market but the miniscule amount this puts out and taking a product off the market that keeps people like me from having to go to the ER is bullshit. Sen Jim DeMint tried to get an exemption for Primatine Mist but all the democrats voted it down...So the democrats have put all us Asthmatics at risk of death by taking our only over the counter product off the market..Oh and by the way the prescription inhalers suck. and you cant get them in the middle of the night the only option now is a hospital trip if you lucky enough to be near one.. Democrats a party of the people?? Not hardly!! They will NEVER EVER get my vote.

[Edited 2012-12-14 18:53:58]

[Edited 2012-12-14 18:57:05]


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25 Post contains links tugger : Well it appears that it will be Tim Scott! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...-to-announce-sen-demint-successor/ Tugg
26 Superfly : Glad Nikki Haley didn't pull a Rod Blagojevich by selling the seat to the highest bidder.
27 slider : WHOO!!!!!
28 zckls04 : Epinephrine is not considered safe for asthma treatment. Monica Kraft, president of the American Thoracic Society, says: Hardly an environmentalist p
29 Ken777 : Tim Scott is a hard line Tea Party Politician and ultra strong gun supporter (not a good thing this week). He is the first black elected to the Senate
30 Post contains images Superfly : Excellent. Supporting legal gun rights is a good thing every week. Wrong, wrong and wrong. He is being appointed. Also, William Brooke (R-MA) was the
31 tugger : I am all for supporting "legal gun rights", the key question though is exactly what should those legal gun rights be.... Tugg
32 N867DA : Good lord, I'm glad both of those fools didn't get anywhere nearer to the Oval Office than the White House tour. From what I read of this Tim Scott g
33 stratosphere : I don't care what they say I have been using it for 40+ years as well as others who have Asthma plus they did put another totally crappy substitute o
34 Post contains images Ken777 : Which is why the NRA has been very, very quiet this week. Oooops! Left out "from the South". As in Confederate States. I do remember William Brooke -
35 Post contains images Superfly : Yep, because they condone shooting up school children.
36 BN747 : To be more specific, they don't (and rightfully so) don't like Uncle Toms. There is not an Uncle Tom in history that has done anyone any real good in
37 BN747 : I think you mean Sen. Edward Brooke of Mass. BN747
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