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Chicago, The "Windy City", In History  
User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5664 times:

Some famous (and not so famous) events from the history of "The Window City", Chicago, Ill.
There is still one more to go, but I forgot to upload it yet, so will have to go back and hunt for it.

Building The Sear's Tower Begins


Building The Sear's Tower; Off To A Good Start


Risque Beach Shot, Circa 1920's


Now That's What I Call A Brave Looking Bunch !


The Last Chicago "Street Car" Rolls Into History


Wow! 1931 Chicago Distillery, 5,000 Gallons Per Day ! (All illegal Of Course)


This Is How The Chicago River Looked In In 1869


The "Ell" in 1987; (Not Much Difference From Today)


This Is Where FBI Agents Blasted John Dillenger ; In Front Of Biograph Theater


"The Babe" Plays With Balloon At Comiskey Park, Late 20's


1st. Presidential Debate; J.F.K. vs "Tricky Dick Nixon", 1960


Volunteer Soviet Nuke Plane "Spotters", Atop Tribune Tower, 1952


And My Favorite....1931 Air Maneuvers Over Navy Pier, By Army Air Force



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
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User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5643 times:

Chicago Fire Horses Gallop Into History


This is the one I wanted ! Arlene's father, Emmett Callender, had recently joined the Chicago Fire Dept., and was stationed in THIS fire house, and was present in the fire house when this photograph was taken; actually, it wasn't a real fire alarm; it was all "pre-planned" to get the newspapers to be present, to take photos of the horses galloping out of the fire house for the very last time. As soon as they were out, a brand new fife engine was backed in, and these four fire horses, "Buck", "Beauty", "Teddy" & "Dan" were later sold at auction to "private parties" to a "fate unknown"..........

Emmett Callender worked as a Chicago Fireman until there Great Depression of the 30's when the City, (being broke) started paying the Firemen with "script", ( or IOU.s); he was forced to leave the Fire Department and became a Chicago City Policeman until 1963, when he retired from the Police Department, then served the next seven years with the Cook County Sheriff's Department, finally retiring for good in the early 70's.

Charley

[Edited 2012-12-10 20:28:04]


Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlinePu From Sweden, joined Dec 2011, 699 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5640 times:

Great pictures!

Some day, maybe even this century, Chicago's incredible early twentieth century neighbourhoods (Capone era) will be as recognizable on a world scale as Amsterdam's canal houses or the other old cityscapes in Europe.

Chicago is my favourite big American city!







Pu


User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5631 times:

Quoting Pu (Reply 2):
Chicago is my favourite big American city!

It's mine too, Pu, but you are actually risking your life going there any more; 10 years ago, when "Miss Arlie" and I first met, every time we visited her daughter out in Lisle, (20 or 25 miles from downtown, "The Loop"), we would take the Metra downtown to Union Station, (which is just a block from the Sears / now "Willis Tower"), and then WALK the pleasant 12 city blocks, (app. a mile and a half) to Michigan Ave. and the Chicago Cultural Center, (which is my favorite of all places in Chicago to go.)

Today, to take that same walk, you would be "unsafe" unless accompanied by a "seal team with weapons", or at minimum, about half a dozen uniformed Chicago Policemen. We EVEN "braved" riding the "ell" a few times........the problem there being, there have been half a dozen murders in "ell" stations in just the past year, and even if you don't get murdered in a station, if you fail to get off the train at a certain station, you will quickly find yourself in an area where even the Chicago P.D. don't go, without 2 or 3 cars, and about a half dozen cops in full "riot gear"; it's very, very sad; so now, when we leave Union Station, we grab the first cab and take it STRAIGHT to The Cultural Center.

Charley



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10476 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5623 times:

I'm guessing that photo of the "El" is supposed to read 1897 and not 1987.........  





I can remember in '67, taking a date to the Monkees' concert at Chicago Stadium......took a train from Aurora, then a cab from Union station. After the concert, we had to walk most of the way to the station, because we couldn't find a cab.....kinda scary in that neighborhood, especially for a couple kids from the boondocks.



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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15749 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5622 times:

Quoting Pu (Reply 2):
Some day, maybe even this century, Chicago's incredible early twentieth century neighbourhoods (Capone era) will be as recognizable on a world scale as Amsterdam's canal houses or the other old cityscapes in Europe.

I'm inclined to doubt that. The main reason is that Chicago is just so diverse that it won't have a coherent image to the outside world. Depending on which parts of the city you visit, you could have completely different experiences. This is true in many cities, but in Chicago it seems to be a much bigger part of the equation. Even if you think of somewhere like Los Angeles, pop culture depictions and what images come into one's mind are generally split between the gang ridden ghettos of South Central and glitzy and glamorous Hollywood. Chicago is more a large collection of diverse, usually ethnic neighborhoods. It sort of lacks a coherent branding the way London has with sights related to the monarchy or Amsterdam and its canals and coffeehouses.

Chicago is almost more defined more by the people that are from there than the city environment itself, for better or worse. My dad is from Chicago and spent some time living overseas during the 1970s. He said the reaction of foreigners when he mentioned he was from Chicago was usually a comment about Al Capone and he eventually gained the nickname "Mr. Chicago" accompanied by the shooting a pistol gesture. This changed in the late 1980s and 1990s with the rise of Michael Jordan and time will tell if Barack Obama picks up the torch in the future. Thank God not that many foreigners pay attention to Jim Belushi or Mike Ditka, although within the US they and people like them form the core Chicago stereotype with a lot of help from Saturday Night Live.



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10476 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5605 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 5):
Jim Belushi

Well he IS from Wheaton  





As far as the gangster connection with Chicago, whenever I would tell someone where I was from, no matter that it was 50 miles away, I always got some sort of reference to Capone or gangster.



"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5579 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 5):
Thank God not that many foreigners pay attention to Jim Belushi or Mike Ditka, although within the US they and people like them form the core Chicago stereotype with a lot of help from Saturday Night Live.

I'm puzzled by that comment.......... I thought EVERYONE liked Jim Belushi ? And Mike Ditka; Mike will forever be remembered by the the 1985 World Champion Chicago "Da Bears", (which won the Super Bowl that year.) And "Da Bears" did pretty well again in 1986............however, Ditka wasn't FROM Chicago; he just moved there after he got out of school, to play for "Da Bears". Ditka, along with Joe Montana (and about 3 dozen other big name football and MLB players "came" from western Pennsylvania.

BTW........speaking of Mike Ditka, a very good friend of mine, (whose late father used to own a Ford dealership in Harvey,) used to travel with "da Bears" on their plane to games; just last week I was rummaging around in the garage for the Christmas tree, and I found a photo album that had a bunch of pictures he had taken when he had flown to Green Bay with "da Bears" on Sept. 22, 1986, to play Green Bay, and after they had beaten the Packers, on the trip back home David was sitting with the GREAT (IMO) Walter Payton, and "Sweetness say, "hey Dave, ya want the game ball ?" Needless to say, David said "well YEAH !", so Walter comes up with the ball, yells up to the front of the plane......."hey guys....everyone sign the ball for Davy here", then lobs a pass to the front, and by the time the ball got back, everyone on the 1986 Bears had signed it; ( that ball is STILL in the family BTW)

Looking throughout the album, there are some VERY "young looking" shots of Mike Ditka, Gary Fensik, Dan Hampton (the monster), Walter Payton, Matt Suey, Dick Butkus, Mike Singletary, Richard Dent, Mike Tomczak, Tim Wrightman, Brian Cabral, Ron Rivera, and even Neil Sedaka and Dan Haggarty, aka: "Grizzly Adams" ! (The last two being big Bears Fans and buddies with the team; ( not sure if they went to GB with the team, or were just staying at he same hotel ), but their pictures are there with the team. The album also has Dave's ticket stub to get into the game (all of $17, and his Press Box Pass on a string, to sit in the PB) And get this.....even though the PB Pass says "Not Good On The Field", half the pics in the album, Dave shot from the sidelines with the team, with a dinky little P&S camera ! If I ever get around to copying those pictures and "digitizing' them, I may stick 'em up for all fans of "da Bears" to look at.

Charley



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15749 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5572 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 7):
I thought EVERYONE liked Jim Belushi ?

He's not funny and he built a whole career hanging on his brother's coattails.

Quoting Geezer (Reply 7):
And Mike Ditka; Mike will forever be remembered by the the 1985 World Champion Chicago "Da Bears", (which won the Super Bowl that year.)

Ditka is an overrated underachiever. He had what is arguably (I'd say yes, screw you Dolphins) the best NFL team ever assembled, and was one of the youngest teams in the league in 1985. That he managed to win only a single Super Bowl is a disgrace. And most of the credit for that Bears defense belongs with coordinator Buddy Ryan rather than Ditka.

And there are his comments about the Walter Payton book by Jeff Pearlman. A guy debunks a myth about a supposed hero who was actually a guy and Ditka acts like a child. Is anyone really surprised that professional athletes in the 1980s did drugs and slept with women other than their wives?

Ditka just wasn't that good of a coach, and some of the things he did (swinging at assistant coaches, punching lockers) were rather unprofessional as well. His myth in Chicago is far, far better than the reality.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5557 times:

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):

Great thread with wonderful photos.
Chicago will always be my hometown and I'll always have some love for this city despite the direction the city has turned in recent years.


Some parts of Chicago is magnificent but some parts it's really dangerous. Yes every big city has it's rough parts but not to the degree of Chicago. The homicide rate is really high in Chicago - particularly in the south side.
It's funny when you listen to people that think they're going to the rough 'south side' when they go to a White Sox game. Comisky Park is at 35th street. The rough part really begins at around 57th street and it gets worse the further south you go. Chicago goes as far south as 138th street.







Here are some more I can add.

The best pizza in the world - Chicago style deep-dish pizza.   
Gino's and Giordano's being my favorite.





Last days of Soldier Field before it was disgraced 10 years ago with a huge eyesoar spaceship like structure to copy newer football stadiums around the country.
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Huge temporary ski-jump set up in the summer of 1954.





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Meigs Field before it was illegally demolished in 2003 by an out of control, over-zealous mayor and eventually cost the city millions of dollar$ in fines.




The rail lines leading to the railway station downtown. The last I saw of this was in 1994. This would eventually be covered up by new construction of a park with a giant aluminum kidney bean.


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Chicago
One of the best rock groups around. Formed in 1967 in Chicago and still going strong 45 years later.




One of my favorite bands of all time - Styx.
Pictured here with then-mayor Jane Byne in 1981.
Celebrating - Styx Day in Chicago on WMET.




Moo & Oink.
The best meat-market ever. A fantastic selection of beef and pork and in the summertime, hosted huge barbecues in the parking lot. A cheap liquor store next door as well.

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Quoting Geezer (Reply 7):
I'm puzzled by that comment.......... I thought EVERYONE liked Jim Belushi ? And Mike Ditka;

I agree. If not those two, there is always;
Al Capone
Dan Rostenkowski
Bill Ayers
John Wayne Gacy
Rod Blagojevich
Daniel Walker
Jesse Jackson Jr
Saul Alinsky
Theodore Kaczynski (The Unabomber),
Jose Padilla (Abdullah al-Muhajir)
Jack Ruby
R. Kelly
Given those choices, I'd stick with Jim Belushi and Mike Ditka.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 5):
time will tell if Barack Obama picks up the torch in the future.

I hope not. He's not from Chicago. There have been a few times here in Asia when I tell people I'm originally from Chicago. Sometimes they say; "Oh, just like Barack Obama?" I tell them "NO. I'm from Chicago, he is not".
He has no history in Chicago at all and I've never seen or heard of him until the debacle surrounding his opponents being removed from the ballot in his first run for the state Senate.



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User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5538 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
He has no history in Chicago at all and I've never seen or heard of him until the debacle surrounding his opponents being removed from the ballot in his first run for the state Senate.

Actually he does. He started Operation Change against the CHA to improve conditions in Chicago's Public Housing. And he also started Operation Hope after that. From what I saw in a documentary program during this period he liked water cress & avocado sandwiches while everyone else at a pot luck dinner chomped down on some soul food.

That photo isn't from what is under Millennium Park. The Santa Fe railroad operated from Dearborn Station then Union Station on the west side of downtown completely different from MP which is on the east side of downtown. Underground auto parking was and still is under Millennium Park.

The Chicago Cultural Center used to be the Chicago Public Library. I'd spend my Christmas holidays in there working on term papers for my classes at La. Tech. I used to give the professors fits when they looked at my bibliography of my papers referencing 90 year old books. That place was just awesome back then. I am just glad they didn't tear it down as it is VERY architecturally significant. I remember sitting at those very long and old oak tables in front of those huge windows on days where it was -5F outside! A few years back I was there for a photo exhibit and the building just did not seem the same without all those book cases crammed into every available space.

And Mayor Jane Byrne she's the one that got swept into office on a blizzard when Mayor Bilandic couldn't get the city streets cleared fast enough during a blizzard he lost the next election. Sometimes I wonder what ever happened to her? The last I heard she was voted out of office as she had run afoul of the political machine. I kind of liked her she was a consumer crusader as well.

My cousin and I used to take the Metra from Hinsdale to Union Station than walk north the the original Pizzaria Uno for pizza. But we haven't done that in the past 8 years or so. Things have changed that much, huh?


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5522 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 10):
Actually he does. He started Operation Change against the CHA to improve conditions in Chicago's Public Housing. And he also started Operation Hope after that.

Well? Have they improved much?
I hope you're not referring to his dealings with his friend Tony Rezko who was a slum-lord that was thrown in prison.
Much of Chicago's public housing has been torn down in favor of over-priced luxury condos - gentrification.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 10):
From what I saw in a documentary program during this period he liked water cress & avocado sandwiches while everyone else at a pot luck dinner chomped down on some soul food.

Cute.
That explains why I never saw him down at Moo & Oink on Stoney Island.  
EVERYONE on the South Side goes to that place for barbecue.
Also, Bobby Rush stated; "Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Barack is a person who read about the civil-rights protests and thinks he knows all about it."
Rush also went on to say; "not sufficiently rooted in Chicago's black neighborhoods to represent constituents' concerns."
Thus the newcomer Obama was handily defeated.
Obviously not an issue now but just had to set the record straight about his roots not coming from Chicago.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 10):
That photo isn't from what is under Millennium Park. The Santa Fe railroad operated from Dearborn Station then Union Station on the west side of downtown completely different from MP which is on the east side of downtown. Underground auto parking was and still is under Millennium Park.

You're correct. I got the two different rail way corridors mixed up.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 10):
And Mayor Jane Byrne she's the one that got swept into office on a blizzard when Mayor Bilandic couldn't get the city streets cleared fast enough during a blizzard he lost the next election.

I remember that very well.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 10):
The last I heard she was voted out of office as she had run afoul of the political machine. I kind of liked her she was a consumer crusader as well.

She lost re-election and didn't make it in to the runoff with Harold Washington in 1983.
Jane Byrne was a good mayor from what I remember and so was Harold Washington.
Harold Washington was the last good mayor Chicago had.

[Edited 2012-12-11 05:00:25]


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19790 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5470 times:

I'm told that the moniker: "The Windy City" has nothing to do wtih the weather. Rather, like "The Second City," it was the result of a rivalry between NYC and Chicago. When New Yorkers called Chicago "The Windy City," the word "Windy" meant "talks a lot about itself" or "overinflated."

User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5470 times:

But you are right, Obama was only in Chicago for about 10 years or so but people tend to think of him as being from there which is incorrect. He only rose to prominence there.

I'd still like to know who paid for his tuition at Harvard.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5468 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 12):
"The Windy City" has nothing to do wtih the weather.

That is correct. I was chuckle when people say they went to Chicago and complained about the wind.  
It's in reference to a rivalry with Cincinnati for the Columbus Exposition that dates back to the 1800s.
I've found San Francisco to be a much windier city than Chicago - especially the western (Sunset/Richmond and west Twin Peaks) districts where I lived.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 13):
I'd still like to know who paid for his tuition at Harvard.

Me too!
However, I don't want to ruin a great thread about Chicago over him.



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User currently offlinekngkyle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 404 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5422 times:
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Perhaps the best thing the city ever did: Preserve the lake front.

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User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5413 times:

What a fabulous photo of the city! I have never seen one before with that perspective. Thanks for putting it up!

User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19790 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5412 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
It's in reference to a rivalry with Cincinnati for the Columbus Exposition that dates back to the 1800s.

Oh, really? I thought it was rivalry with New York. I guess "Second City" is from NYC, then.


User currently offlineLFutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3339 posts, RR: 27
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5412 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 3):
It's mine too, Pu, but you are actually risking your life going there any more; 10 years ago, when "Miss Arlie" and I first met, every time we visited her daughter out in Lisle, (20 or 25 miles from downtown, "The Loop"), we would take the Metra downtown to Union Station, (which is just a block from the Sears / now "Willis Tower"), and then WALK the pleasant 12 city blocks, (app. a mile and a half) to Michigan Ave. and the Chicago Cultural Center, (which is my favorite of all places in Chicago to go.)

Today, to take that same walk, you would be "unsafe" unless accompanied by a "seal team with weapons", or at minimum, about half a dozen uniformed Chicago Policemen. We EVEN "braved" riding the "ell" a few times........the problem there being, there have been half a dozen murders in "ell" stations in just the past year, and even if you don't get murdered in a station, if you fail to get off the train at a certain station, you will quickly find yourself in an area where even the Chicago P.D. don't go, without 2 or 3 cars, and about a half dozen cops in full "riot gear"; it's very, very sad; so now, when we leave Union Station, we grab the first cab and take it STRAIGHT to The Cultural Center.

Charley

I'd like to raise the BS flag. As a resident of the suburbs of Chicago, I've lived in Cook County for almost 12 years now. Sure theres dangerous spots such as the west and south parts of Chicago, but overall its generally safe. I've riden the CTA many many many times and I feel safe theres nothing to 'brave' about. Just don't be stupid and be aware of your surroundings, and valuables. Its not called the 'ell' its called the 'El' or just the CTA

Maybe you came when NATO was in town but I dont see cops in full 'riot gear' downtown. I see them in clothes on bikes, or just walking around the city.

Leo/ORD



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6599 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5398 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):

Oh, really? I thought it was rivalry with New York. I guess "Second City" is from NYC, then.

This is great book that will explain to you everything you need to know about that  http://www.amazon.com/Devil-White-City-Madness-Changed/dp/0375725601



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User currently offlinerwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2353 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5392 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
Meigs Field before it was illegally demolished in 2003 by an out of control, over-zealous mayor and eventually cost the city millions of dollar$ in fines.

At the end of the day the illegality was minor, mainly involving the closure of an IFR approach without the required 30 days notice, and the total fine the city paid was $33,000. The city also repaid about $1 million in FAA AIP funds.

Did it stink? Sure, but legally there was little wrong with the city's closure of the airport - there were (unfortunately) no real contractual constraints on the city. The two major ones often cited were not in force: First would have been the usual stricture requiring an airport to stay open for some time after receiving federal funds for improvements, but which was *not* in the contracts the city signed with the feds in the '90s. Second was the deal the city reached with the feds in 2001 to keep the airport open for 25 years, which was basically null and void because the Senate never passed the legislation that was part of the deal.

Again, the closure of Meigs, and the way it was done stinks, but it was pretty much within the rights of the city to do.


User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5385 times:

[quote=LFutia,reply=18]I'd like to raise the BS flag. As a resident of the suburbs of Chicago, I've lived in Cook County for almost 12 years now. Sure theres dangerous spots such as the west and south parts of Chicago, but overall its generally safe. I've riden the CTA many many many times and I feel safe theres nothing to 'brave' about. Just don't be stupid and be aware of your surroundings, and valuables. Its not called the 'ell' its called the 'El' or just the CTA
[/quote


Maybe you'd like to point that out to the two senior citizens who were savagely beaten and robbed as they were coming down the steps from the "El" (still think "Ell" looks better) right in the Loop; and also to the 45 yr old businessman who was set-upon by a gang of teen-age THUGS, beaten half to death, then robbed, kicked, and almost died, and THAT happened about mid-way between Union Station and The Cultural Center. Just because you go someplace every now and then and don't see a crime, doesn't mean that "crime" doesn't exist or happen there. I've said the same thing when Arlene wanted to take a cab; hell, I like to walk ! I like to look at things; but I have also spoken with Chicago Policemen about the "advisability" of seniors walking from Union Station to Michigan Ave. And they have ALL said........"better take a cab" !


[quote=LFutia,reply=18]Maybe you came when NATO was in town but I dont see cops in full 'riot gear' downtown. I see them in clothes on bikes, or just walking around the city.


I didn't say anything about SEEING cops in riot gear; I was referring to the very real "possibility" of "needing" a few !
And one other thing about Chicago in particular, and the whole damned state of Illinois in general..........it's the ONE state in the U.S. where law-abiding, qualified and licensed citizens are PROHIBITED from protecting themselves from ARMED thugs;
If I'm ever assaulted by an armed thug in Indianapolis, I have to "option" of whipping out my Glock .40 cal. and "evening things up"; but NOT in Illinois; in I'll. only the thugs have weapons ! BTW......interestingly enough, a Federal Judge has just
declared that the Illinois law against CC is ILLEGAL; (we will be hearing much more about this subject in the days to come.)

Charley



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlineLFutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3339 posts, RR: 27
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5376 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 21):
Maybe you'd like to point that out to the two senior citizens who were savagely beaten and robbed as they were coming down the steps from the "El" (still think "Ell" looks better) right in the Loop; and also to the 45 yr old businessman who was set-upon by a gang of teen-age THUGS, beaten half to death, then robbed, kicked, and almost died, and THAT happened about mid-way between Union Station and The Cultural Center. Just because you go someplace every now and then and don't see a crime, doesn't mean that "crime" doesn't exist or happen there. I've said the same thing when Arlene wanted to take a cab; hell, I like to walk ! I like to look at things; but I have also spoken with Chicago Policemen about the "advisability" of seniors walking from Union Station to Michigan Ave. And they have ALL said........"better take a cab" !

I'm sorry. I had a look at your profile and saw your age at 76 +. I apologise and yes I would recommend a cab then. but these incidents are isolated compared to the thousands and thousands of people that take the train every day.

Leo/ORD



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User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5373 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
That explains why I never saw him down at Moo & Oink on Stoney Island.
EVERYONE on the South Side goes to that place for barbecue.

I'm from Naperville and I've been there even. Does anyone know Dat Donut? One of the best doughnut shops in the Midwest, it's on the south side but I forget where exactly.

I personally love the city, every time I'm down there I enjoy myself. I never feel unsafe be it on the "El" or just walking around. I have friends that go to school in the city and me living just 15 or so Metra stops away I frequently visit and its never dull in the city as opposed to the 'burbs.

[Edited 2012-12-11 15:40:11]


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Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5367 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 8):
He's not funny and he built a whole career hanging on his brother's coattails.

As for the late John Belushi, yeah, he WAS funny as hell, a GREAT talent, and I LOVED seeing "The Blues Brothers" (about 9 times! ) However, like many dopers, he paid the price for his addiction, and is no longer "with us", (which is HIS fault, not mine.

As for Jim Belushi..........I never really thought of him as a comic; but I HAVE seen him is a few "cop"pics which I enjoyed immensely. ( and I'm sure everyone will agree, he WON"T be the first one to take advantage of a brother or other family member's "celebrity" to"advance his OWN career.)


[quote=type-rated,reply=10]The Chicago Cultural Center used to be the Chicago Public Library. I'd spend my Christmas holidays in there working on term papers for my classes at La. Tech. I used to give the professors fits when they looked at my bibliography of my papers referencing 90 year old books. That place was just awesome back then. I am just glad they didn't tear it down as it is VERY architecturally significant.

It's every bit as "awesome" today ! One of the more "awesome" events in my memory is having the good fortune to see and hear the fabulous pianist, Miss Mae Phang (pronounced "Pong"), perform Scriabin on the great Steinway Grand in the fabulous Preston Bradly Hall, directly underneath the largest and most beautiful art glass dome (and Tiffany chandelier) in the entire world) ! ( and it's all FREE, two times every week ) So, I definitely agree, thank heavens the late Mrs. "Sis" Daley was able to single-handedly prevent the destruction of this one-of-a-kind grand old building !

Charley



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
25 mayor : Ah, yes.....Calamity Jane Byrne.......she got swept into office because of Bilandic's mishandling of a snowstorm and IIRC, she got swept out of offic
26 Post contains images Superfly : No B.S. flag alert here. The most dangerous parts of Chicago aren't served by the El train. No El train service at 95th & Yates. Well of course n
27 type-rated : I remember in old CTA adverts that they used to call the "El" the "L" in print. I know it's a contraction of the word "Elevated" but that's how they u
28 victrola : I just celebrated my 2 year anniversary in Chicago after moving here from L.A. It's the best move I ever made.
29 luckyone : I would love to know the last time you actually tried to walk that since the Clinton administration. Unless you're walking around there in the middle
30 Geezer : I look at the crime "stats" every day ! We get the Chicago Tribune on-line; I read it EVERY day; that's how I know what's happening every day in Chic
31 Post contains images mayor : Sorry, busy right now.
32 Geezer : All of this talk about the reason that Chicago is called "The Windy City" not having anything to do with the weather.......... Let's put it this way;
33 type-rated : Should be "As you probably know, Great Lakes was just a hop, skip & a jump up the road from Chicago." Great Lakes Navy base was torn down quite s
34 rwessel : Unless you mean something other than Naval Station Great Lakes, which has always, to my knowledge, been informally referred to as "Great Lakes", that
35 Post contains images dc9northwest : I have to agree with you, Charley. Those 20+ mph winds in winter are a killer. And they do exist. Even if not every day... but they do exist. 'Fly, m
36 type-rated : Yes, I that's what I was thinking of. I must admit I thought that was the only military institute up in that area. I didn't know there were two.
37 Geezer : I must admit, I don't keep up with what the Navy is doing with it's various installations, but I'm pretty sure if they had torn down The Great Lakes
38 mayor : And if I'm not mistaken, Fort Sheridan used to be up that way, too.
39 Post contains images type-rated : I wasn't aware that the IC switch yard used to go up into Grant Park and to about where the Chicago River now is. Here is a photo from 1943 that shows
40 kngkyle : This is such a bunch of garbage. The vast vast vast majority of the murders and violent crimes are between gang members and confined to a very small
41 Post contains images luckyone : Not to blow my own horn, but that map is exactly the areas dc9northwest and I stated earlier Please correct me if my assumption is incorrect. It sound
42 LMP737 : How about Enrico Fermi, you know the Noble Prize physicist who developed the first nuclear reactor at the University of Chicago. I'm pretty sure peop
43 type-rated : That wasn't my quote.... I am sure that there are people from Chicago that are leaders in their chosen industries besides being known as notorious. Th
44 LMP737 : I apologize for that, don't know how that happened. Should have gone over my post more carefully.
45 BMI727 : What's wrong with sports figures? Many great basketball players have come out of Chicago: Isiah Thomas, Dwyane Wade, Kevin Garnett, Derrick Rose, and
46 Post contains images Superfly : I know. I was just being and arse. My favorite natives would be; Mr. T. Hugh Hefner Charlton Heston Quincy Jones Chaka Khan Peter Cetera Dennis DeYou
47 Post contains images Superfly : I wouldn't be so quick to discount Geezer's experience as "garbage"as you put it. The area he is describing is safe today but that wasn't always the
48 Geezer : [quote=kngkyle,reply=40]This is such a bunch of garbage. The vast vast vast majority of the murders and violent crimes are between gang members and co
49 Post contains links mt99 : Technically - the people who got their phone stolen in the Pink Line - made it home alive. As do the hundreds of thousands that go to the loop every
50 cptkrell : Been to Chicago many times. A great read and wonderful pictures. Hey, Superfly; there's a one in a zillion chance I might be aboard the Santa Fe in yo
51 iFlyLOTs : The highest in the country! Ain't that something special, maybe it'll keep the crime rate down...
52 mt99 : Still cheaper than parking in a 'private lot".. Street parking should be as expense as private lots. Why should a city not charge as much as the forc
53 Post contains images Superfly : In a parking lot, your car is safer and less likely to get stolen or broken in to. Parking your car on the streets in certain parts of Chicago, you m
54 BMI727 : My dad loves to tell the story from when he lived in Chicago of a Corvette that was often parked near where he lived. The owner would always chain it
55 Post contains links mt99 : My dad loves also tell funny but un-true stories.. http://www.snopes.com/autos/theft/carthief.asp
56 Post contains images Superfly : Sorry but the story was hard to believe from that point onward. The only 'vette I'd park on the street in Chicago is a Chevette.
57 mt99 : i bet that there are no meters on those streets though..
58 Superfly : Possibly but the paid private parking lots are a lot safer than parking on the street at a meter and sure as hell beats having to go out and feed the
59 mt99 : Not in the area of where the rate is $6.75/hour. BTW, $6.75 is NOT city wide. Only in the loop (and possibly River North); where in fact the crime ra
60 iFlyLOTs : I was joking...?
61 mt99 : Yes - it was great! (so was I)[Edited 2012-12-28 08:41:23]
62 Post contains links STT757 : Chicago is going to end the year with more homicides than NYC, what makes this disturbing is that NYC has about 5.5 million more residents than Chicag
63 Post contains links mt99 : Then Detroit, St Loius, Oakland, Memphis, Birmignham, Atlanta, Baltimore, Stokton, Clevland, and Buffalo would disturb you even more http://www.forbe
64 kngkyle : Mostly gang members killing gang members. Good riddance.
65 Geezer : Yeah, that's a damned college town, 40 miles from here..........I never go there Which is why we always go to John's house in Seneca, leave the Cube
66 Superfly : Sadly an lot of innocent people get caught up in the crossfire as well as mistaken identity. Years a go, a friend of our family had a 13 year old son
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