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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3958 times:

Well, we're down to the final couple of games this season, and so far it looks like we're going to have the following based on my opinion:

NFC

East: Redskins
North: Packers (clinched)
South: Falcons (clinched)
West: 49ers

Wild cards: Vikings and Giants

AFC

East: Patriots (clinched)
North: Ravens (it's a matter of time + rant alert!)
South: Texans
West: Denver (clinched)

Wildcards: Bengals and Colts

Now for my rant (and I'm sure you all are going to be very surprised by it, too!)  

The Steelers have become a joke of a franchise! Injuries, lack of play/passion/coaching, etc, has just lead to a laughable season. I know injuries are all part of the game, but is it just me, or do the Steelers seem to pile up more injuries than they do tackles or even offensive points for that matter! Their defense is almost non-existant, especially in the turn-over margin -- THEY HARDLY FORCED ANY!!!

Seriously, this is a team that needs to rebuild itself, especially with its defense! How many guys does it take to tackle someone?! I know old people with WALKERS who can tackle better! I'm glad I didn't watch todays debacle at Dallas, but I did watch enough of it to deduce that the defense was not going to tackle anyone. Anyone wishing to tune in to a Steelers game, don't waste 3-plus hours of your time! Go to an ice-capades or a ballet; you'd be better off!!

Oh, and now for part Two of my rant, Philadelphia style

GET RID OF ANDY FRICKING REID!!! AAAAAAAAAGH!!! Not only did they give up a lead to Cincinnati (which is a team I wanted to lose, badly!!), but they gave up 24 unanswered points! Reid, you suck. While they're at it, overhaul this band of misfits, too. Pennsylvania has become a rather dark and sad place in regards to its professional football franchises...

And now, how about your opinions? How did your team do this year?


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3952 times:

Actually if Seattle beats Frisco next Sunday and the Rams the week after there is a really good chance they win the west.

Ed's. If New England takes out SF tonight

[Edited 2012-12-16 17:42:44]


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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3935 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 1):
If New England takes out SF tonight

Where is the game? If it's in Foxborough, then I guess I'd have to re-think my opinion about San Fran...



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3926 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 2):
Where is the game? If it's in Foxborough, then I guess I'd have to re-think my opinion about San Fran...

The pats are at home

Quoting steeler83 (Thread starter):
Not only did they give up a lead to Cincinnati (which is a team I wanted to lose, badly!!)

If you've read any of my posts, you'd understand why I dislike your wording here  



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12732 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3924 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 2):
Where is the game? If it's in Foxborough, then I guess I'd have to re-think my opinion about San Fran...

It's a totally sloppy game in the freezing rain... Incredible number of turnovers so far... Could go any way...



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3915 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 4):
It's a totally sloppy game in the freezing rain... Incredible number of turnovers so far... Could go any way...

I don't even know what just happened with that play...all i know is that San Fran player didn't touch the ball.

The refs are all messed up too

[Edited 2012-12-16 18:53:33]


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3914 times:

I am not impressed with the pats so far this game....bill needs to yell at them at the half.

Then again with Seattle next week and the Seahawks coming off two +50 point games Frisco may be fired up to send a message before next Sunday



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21681 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3894 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5):
I don't even know what just happened with that play...all i know is that San Fran player didn't touch the ball.

The refs are all messed up too

Refs made the right call. The SF player didn't (barely) touch the ball, and thus the ball is dead where the Patriots got it. The penalty on SF was assessed as it should have been after the play. Hochuli screwed up the explanation with the suggestion of replaying the kick, but the proceedings on the field were correct.

-Mir



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3894 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3):

If you've read any of my posts, you'd understand why I dislike your wording here

Sorry, don't follow.  

When was the last time the Bengals were in the playoffs, 2005? I think yinz can stamp your tickets for the post season and stick a fork in the neanderthals that have overtaken Heinz Field for some reason. They're done. Yes, there are two games left, including a head2head, but the way my team has showed the past two weeks, I have no hope for them.

You know, I find it rather funny. The Post-gazette said right before the Chargers game that the team looks to get hot in December. Wow, if they're hot now, I wonder how they'd look if they were cold!

Quoting L-188 (Reply 6):
Then again with Seattle next week and the Seahawks coming off two +50 point games

Oh yeah, I can't believe they scored that many points! Talk about offensive firepower!



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13140 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

The crazy thing is that a few meadiore and inconsistant teams could be in the playoffs as the suggested playoff lineup in the initial post.

By default, the 'Skins could win the NFC East, as the Giants seemed to gone real bad, shut out by Atlanta today and I don't think the Cowboys are ready for the playoffs yet. The Eagles have crashed, I expect a house cleaing of Reid and others booted unless they have some blackmail material on the owner.
The NFC North is locked by Green Bay. Even before the season started I thought they would be the NFC team in the Super Bowl.
NFC West - I wouldn't count out Seattle although they most likely would lose in the first/wild card round due to inexperience of the team.
NFC South - Atlanta is pretty much clinced to win the NFC south but they are another inconsistant team that far too often this year wins by narrow margins. Could lose in their first round of the playoffs.

AFC East - NE is stinking tonight, but most likely will win the AFC East as has no real divisional challanger.Probable SB rep of the AFC
AFC North - Once again a default division winner with the Ravens. They seemed to have fizzled late in the season. I expeced them to be much better and picked them as the AFC team in the Super Bowl. The Steelers have very serious problems and look like they need a real rebuilding.
AFC South - Houston is pretty much a lock for the division title, but they too are a flawed team as the season nears it end.
AFC West - Denver, along with Indy, are the surprise stories of the year. Denver under Payton Manning have a swagger about them that leads to wins. Besides, their divisional rivals are terrible.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

Seattle is the first team to have consecutive fifty point games since 1950.

It's too bad the pats are apparently not up doing a solid for the Seahawks.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 7):
Refs made the right call. The SF player didn't (barely) touch the ball, and thus the ball is dead where the Patriots got it. The penalty on SF was assessed as it should have been after the play. Hochuli screwed up the explanation with the suggestion of replaying the kick, but the proceedings on the field were correct.

Ok yeah I thought he made the right call, I just didn't understand the call.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 8):
When was the last time the Bengals were in the playoffs, 2005?

It's why I boycott the Bungles until someone takes Mike Brown out on a rail   



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21681 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3883 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 8):
When was the last time the Bengals were in the playoffs, 2005?

2009. When they lost to the Jets.   

BTW, the Jets actually have a legit shot to make the playoffs now. Assuming they win the rest of their games (against Tennessee, San Diego and Buffalo), they will need both the Steelers and Bengals to split their remaining two games. The most probable way for that to happen would be for the Bengals to beat the Steelers and then lose to the Ravens (if the Steelers won next week, they'd have to lose to the Browns).

Alternatively, if the Colts lose their remaining two games (Kansas City and Houston, and you'd have to think they'd beat Kansas City), then the Jets would be in along with either Pittsburgh or Cincinnati if one of them won both their games, or Indy if they split.

-Mir



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 9):
The Steelers have very serious problems and look like they need a real rebuilding.

Preaching to the choir here. I wonder if they'll fire Lebeau or ask him to retire after this season. He's not scaring anyone anymore. While they're at it. They need players who know how to hold onto an effing football!!

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 11):
It's why I boycott the Bungles until someone takes Mike Brown out on a rail

I take it he's the owner? Sorry, I don't follow who does what higher up for that franchise. All I know is that Lewis is the head coach and some fans have called for his head to roll. One of my friends from college is a Cincy native, altho he follows the Reds more so than any other sport. He is a die-hard Cincy fan otherwise, much like I am with Pittsburgh -- yes, even the hapless Pirates...

Actually, I kinda would like to see the Bengals make it to the Super Bowl and actually win it. Would that be an ultimate thorn twisting in the side of Ocho-Moron-o?

And man, what up with New England? Something must be stinking up there in Boston, and I don't think it's the Charles River.  



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User currently onlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3681 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3874 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 9):
AFC South - Houston

I didn't watch today's game because of work, but I will say I can't wait for my free cupcake tomorrow at Sprinkles!!! Many of the games this season have been interesting, but a win is a win and Houston has been rather festive with each win!



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3387 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Thread starter):
East: Redskins
North: Packers (clinched)
South: Falcons (clinched)
West: 49ers

Wild cards: Vikings and Giants

A few points, the NFC east is open and the Giants, Cowboys and Redskins basically control their own destinies. If any of those teams win out they are in which is impossible because the Cowboys and Redskins meet in week 17.

Seattle likely is one of the wild cards and might win the west because NE is threatening a 14 point SF lead. Regarding the other Wild Card there are five 8-6 team being the Vikings, Bears, Giants, Redskins and Cowboys

Quoting steeler83 (Thread starter):
East: Patriots (clinched)
North: Ravens (it's a matter of time + rant alert!)
South: Texans
West: Denver (clinched)

Wildcards: Bengals and Colts

The Steelers are still in the hunt as are the Jets provided they both win out but neither team controls their own destiny.
Personally, I want the Jets, Bengals, and Steelers to all lose and my Phins to win out and then they have a shot at 8-8  .

Quoting steeler83 (Thread starter):
GET RID OF ANDY FRICKING REID!!! AAAAAAAAAGH!!! Not only did they give up a lead to Cincinnati (which is a team I wanted to lose, badly!!), but they gave up 24 unanswered points! Reid, you suck. While they're at it, overhaul this band of misfits, too. Pennsylvania has become a rather dark and sad place in regards to its professional football franchises...

Philly is getting blown up 100!! Furthermore even though Reid obviously has problems motivating his team, their offensive line is the biggest issue.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3826 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 13):
I take it he's the owner? Sorry, I don't follow who does what higher up for that franchise. All I know is that Lewis is the head coach and some fans have called for his head to roll.

Owner, dictator.    the guy is an idiot.
We also have mixed feelings with the coach.  
Quoting steeler83 (Reply 13):
One of my friends from college is a Cincy native, altho he follows the Reds more so than any other sport.

We love our Reds quite a bit 
Quoting steeler83 (Reply 13):
He is a die-hard Cincy fan otherwise, much like I am with Pittsburgh -- yes, even the hapless Pirates...

Well I'll keep my reds, you'll keep your steelers, and we will just ignore the other teams  



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User currently onlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10104 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3821 times:
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Quoting L-188 (Reply 10):
It's too bad the pats are apparently not up doing a solid for the Seahawks.

Pats fans don't like Pete Carroll.  

USC fans do, though, so I'm torn.



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User currently offlineIllinoisMan From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3813 times:

Time for the Bears to clean house! What a joke of a team. 3-10 vs the Packers in the last 13 meetings including a home loss in the Championship game. Can we finally say goodbye to Lovie Smith, Mike Tice, and most of this inept coaching staff? And wow, Cutler really went all out to try and lead a comeback today (sarcasm)...Get him outta here. Jay Cutler, you blow! No leadership what so ever. Weak!

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3806 times:

Quoting IllinoisMan (Reply 18):
Time for the Bears to clean house!

Maybe. Phil Emery gets no honeymoon period: the roster needs an almost complete overhaul. He gets spotted a franchise QB, a star wide receiver, a decent running back, some aging defensive stars, and an accurate kicker, but that's about it. The rest needs to be rebuilt.

Quoting IllinoisMan (Reply 18):
3-10 vs the Packers in the last 13 meetings including a home loss in the Championship game.

That's irrelevant. What is relevant is having made the playoffs once in the last six seasons and no Super Bowl wins.

Quoting IllinoisMan (Reply 18):
Can we finally say goodbye to Lovie Smith, Mike Tice, and most of this inept coaching staff?

At some point, but there's still a case to be made for letting Lovie finish his deal if you're a general manager, since that's a position where success is determined by who they hire. I'd give some thought to retaining Smith to buy another offseason worth of roster changes before really taking ownership of the coaching position. Now if I know who my guy is and I can get him, I'm pulling the trigger.

What is clear is that Emery is in control now. It's his call. There should be no more press conferences with Sweaty Teddy talking about all the changes followed by Angelo extolling the value of continuity. There should be no more Lovie asking mommy and daddy for a Mike Martz only to be told "no" and then "yes" when it becomes clear nobody else will take the job.

Quoting IllinoisMan (Reply 18):
And wow, Cutler really went all out to try and lead a comeback today (sarcasm)...Get him outta here. Jay Cutler, you blow!

Have you watched any of the games? That's absolutely a stupid thing to say. Jay Cutler is without question the best quarterback the Bears have ever had, period. The game has changed. There is no more three yards and a cloud of dust. The Bears as a franchise can no longer insist on lagging behind the rest of the league if they really want to compete. Their offense needs to improve and have better coaching, and I'd hope for either an offensively minded head coach or a strong coordinator.



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User currently offlineIllinoisMan From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3740 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 19):
That's irrelevant. What is relevant is having made the playoffs once in the last six seasons and no Super Bowl wins.

Uh, remember when Lovie Smith made such a big deal of trying to beat the Packers in his introductory news conference?

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 19):
Have you watched any of the games? That's absolutely a stupid thing to say.

So often in this rivalry over the last two decades, quarterback play tipped the scales toward the Packers and it did again yesterday. Once again Rodgers out-dueled Cutler, now 1-7 against Green Bay. The biggest problem is that Green Bay has Aaron Rodgers, and the Bears don't.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3729 times:

Quoting IllinoisMan (Reply 20):
Uh, remember when Lovie Smith made such a big deal of trying to beat the Packers in his introductory news conference?

Yeah I remember. He was pandering to the stupid.

Quoting IllinoisMan (Reply 20):
So often in this rivalry over the last two decades, quarterback play tipped the scales toward the Packers and it did again yesterday.

So often the Packers have simply had a better quarterback.

Quoting IllinoisMan (Reply 20):
The biggest problem is that Green Bay has Aaron Rodgers, and the Bears don't.

If you really think that's the biggest problem the Bears have, then you really don't have a clue. Rodgers is better, but he does have better weapons and the gulf is not that wide.

On the list of things the Bears have to fix, quarterback is low on the list.



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2559 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

Quoting IllinoisMan (Reply 18):
Time for the Bears to clean house! What a joke of a team. 3-10 vs the Packers in the last 13 meetings including a home loss in the Championship game. Can we finally say goodbye to Lovie Smith, Mike Tice, and most of this inept coaching staff?

Amen, brother!! As a life-long Bears fan, it's been painful to watch. Great goal-to-go play calling by Tice late in the game - three off-tackle runs. Gimme a break. Lovie has worn out his welcome and then some.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 19):
There is no more three yards and a cloud of dust.

See above.....reason #1 to jettison the coaches. I completely agree with you but look what we still see from them.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 19):
Jay Cutler is without question the best quarterback the Bears have ever had, period.

He has a lot of talent but he's a punk and a whiner. They need a leader on the field not a crybaby.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3714 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 22):
See above.....reason #1 to jettison the coaches.

New coaches can't do what needs to be done in order to fix the Bears. All offense look bad when you can't block anyone.

Quoting ER757 (Reply 22):
He has a lot of talent but he's a punk and a whiner. They need a leader on the field not a crybaby.

What evidence do you have to support this statement? That he doesn't always like talking to the media?



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12732 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3711 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 9):
AFC East - NE is stinking tonight, but most likely will win the AFC East as has no real divisional challanger.Probable SB rep of the AFC

NEP actually clinched NFC East last week.

Wasn't the best night for football, but IMHO SFO is the real deal. #1 defense statistically, offense has a tough RB and a QB who can pass and run with the best of them.

Hopefully it's a wakeup call for the Pats especially on defense.



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User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6865 posts, RR: 34
Reply 25, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

Quoting IllinoisMan (Reply 20):
The biggest problem is that Green Bay has Aaron Rodgers, and the Bears don't.

The Bears problems go much deeper than that. Their OL is horrid, they’re missing 3 defensive starters, lack the receiving threats to keep pace in the division or playoffs this year. Lovie Smith’s job security may be a real issue now. He set his sights on the Packers, but the scales are and have been in GB's favor of late, boosted by the total organizational soundness of the Packers.

GB’s been skewered with injuries FAR more than Chicago and have—miraculously—been able to stay afloat, in no small part to Aaron Rodgers, of course. But Jay Cutler is a loser. He’s not a leader, I don’t care how many people defend him. He’s not a championship caliber QB and never will be. But in his defense, the dude has little around him. And Chicago is on their 3rd offensive coordinator in 4 years. Their organization doesn’t seem to be going anywhere and in a passing league, when scoring averages are at their highest in NFL history, the Bears continue to rank near the bottom in offense. It’s pathetic, really. But the difference between these two franchises right now is night and day in terms of character, coaching, perseverance. Their fans booed them at home yesterday and Urlacher just ripped them back.

It’s hard to consider GB was 2 games behind Chicago a month ago; in that time the Packers have gone 4-1 and they the inverse, 1-4. Why is that? Well, the Bears were the benefactors of one of the easiest schedules in the first half followed by one of the toughest. We now see what they are made of. To wit: their first 8 games: Indy, GB (L), St Louis, Dallas, Jax, Detroit, Carolina, Tennessee. Their last 8 games: Houston (L), San Fran (L), Queens, Seattle (L), Queens (L), Green Bay (L). They wrap up on a lighter note with Arizona and Detroit but even if they were to make the playoffs, I think the Bears organization is really not going in the right direction. And I’m glad.  

From a big picture standpoint for the Packers, the defense just held their 9th opponent to 20 or fewer points and the 6th opponent to 17 or fewer. The Bears didn't have over 100 yards passing until late in the game and didn't convert any 3rd downs. Green Bay's D had a great goal line stand. Packers moved the ball on the ground and in the air. Converted 2 4th down plays.

GB just clinched the second consecutive division title, have won 12 straight against divisional opponents (extending our franchise record streak) and have done so through a barrage of injuries and bad luck.

It would appear as if Lovie can't hold serve to that. Few could, frankly.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 26, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3724 times:

Quoting slider (Reply 25):
they’re missing 3 defensive starters

To be fair, Urlacher was looking awfully old even before he got hurt. It hurts to lose the intelligence more than physical ability at this point.

Quoting slider (Reply 25):
Lovie Smith’s job security may be a real issue now.

It is, thanks to a second straight year of collapse and a new general manager who will finally be given control of the coaching staff.

Quoting slider (Reply 25):
GB’s been skewered with injuries FAR more than Chicago and have—miraculously—been able to stay afloat,

Nothing miraculous about it. The Packers have been able to draft and the Bears weren't. Digging out from under Jerry Angelo's mess will take years.

Quoting slider (Reply 25):
But Jay Cutler is a loser. He’s not a leader, I don’t care how many people defend him. He’s not a championship caliber QB and never will be.

What evidence is there of this? Facial expressions? Short answers during press conferences?

He makes some bad decisions (more than Rodgers) but he also makes a ton of plays. I don't see a quarterback that can't win a Super Bowl, I see a team that can't win a Super Bowl.

Quoting slider (Reply 25):
It’s hard to consider GB was 2 games behind Chicago a month ago;

Not really. People saw the schedule and knew what was coming. Personally, I never thought the Bears were better than the Packers. Not for a moment.



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 27, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3726 times:

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 15):
A few points, the NFC east is open and the Giants, Cowboys and Redskins basically control their own destinies. If any of those teams win out they are in which is impossible because the Cowboys and Redskins meet in week 17.

I realize the NFC East is wide open since the Cowboys beat the steelers, but they are not consistant. If they get in, I don't expect them to last too long. Inconsistant teams that essentially limp into the playoffs are usually one-and-done. That's why I like Washington out of the three. They seem to have it a little more together than Eli and the Giants have the last few games. Did he even show up this weekend, by the way?

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 15):
The Steelers are still in the hunt as are the Jets provided they both win out but neither team controls their own destiny.
Personally, I want the Jets, Bengals, and Steelers to all lose and my Phins to win out and then they have a shot at 8-8 .

I'm thinking the Steelers could -- and might actually -- lose out. They are just very inconsistant on both offense and defense. It looks like Cincinnati could get hot. Back to the Steelers, they've already lost to the Browns earlier this year, and they could very well lose to Cincinnati this coming weekend. That would suck on more than one level -- it's the 40th anniversary to the DAY of the Immaculate Reception if I'm not mistaken. Man, would that suck if they lost on that day! Of course, the Oakland Raiders plus John Madden would probably laugh their asses off...!

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 16):

Well I'll keep my reds, you'll keep your steelers, and we will just ignore the other teams

Here here!



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3072 posts, RR: 4
Reply 28, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3725 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Thread starter):
The Steelers have become a joke of a franchise!

(Sigh) My San Diego Chargers have won that award,by far.I hope owner Spanos does some major house cleaning like GM Smith,Coach Turner,RB Matthews and I might consider Rivers on that list.

Well.watching from the sidelines,I'll go with another Ca. team in the playoffs and the SF49 Niners.

Until next season,Happy Holidays!

[Edited 2012-12-17 13:34:22]


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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2559 posts, RR: 7
Reply 29, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3682 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 23):
What evidence do you have to support this statement? That he doesn't always like talking to the media?

He bitches at team mates when he throws a pick or an incompletion rather than just sucking it up and going back to the sideline to work with them on the routes. He stands alone and pouts instead of being there to support his team mates. Exhibit A was the NFC championship game after he got hurt. How bout earlier this year when one of the coaches was trying to talk to him on the sidelines and he just turned his back and walked away? Think Ditka would have put up with that BS? Cutler would have been riding the bench in about two seconds flat.


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Reply 30, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3669 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 29):
He bitches at team mates when he throws a pick or an incompletion rather than just sucking it up and going back to the sideline to work with them on the routes. He stands alone and pouts instead of being there to support his team mates.

And you know this from watching him in person at games? Or are you at the mercy of what TV directors show us and their storylines?

And, for what it's worth, most of those teammates do need to be bitched at. How many times has Hester ran the wrong route? (That pick yesterday was on Cutler. He should know Hester isn't good enough to make that play) How many passes has Kellen Davis dropped? How many times has Cutler had to burn a timeout because nobody gives him the play call?

Quoting ER757 (Reply 29):
Exhibit A was the NFC championship game after he got hurt.

He was hurt. What's he supposed to do?

Quoting ER757 (Reply 29):
How bout earlier this year when one of the coaches was trying to talk to him on the sidelines and he just turned his back and walked away?

Tice had nothing to say. That wasn't Cutler's greatest moment, but Tice has proven himself to be less than competent.

Quoting ER757 (Reply 29):
Think Ditka would have put up with that BS?

He would have acted like the overrated, unprofessional blowhard that he is. Fans continually invoking the name of Ditka makes it clear that fans may know even less than management when it comes to joining the modern NFL.

Let me guess: you're the "Lovie doesn't yell enough or make halftime adjustments" guy.



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2559 posts, RR: 7
Reply 31, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 30):
He was hurt. What's he supposed to do?

Oh I don't know, maybe go over and talk to the kid that's in there trying to win the game, help him read the defense, give him tips and encouragement....you know be a leader instead of sulking over by himself with PMS (poor me syndrome).

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 30):
And, for what it's worth, most of those teammates do need to be bitched at. How many times has Hester ran the wrong route?

Why don't you go back and look at the really good QB's and compare how they react to those situations? You never saw Montana, Brady, Staubach, Marino, Manning act like the complete a-hole Cutler can be. You want your guys to run the right route next time? Talk to them about getting on the same page, don't rant and blame them for what may or may not be their mistake. You know, it's just possible that Jay made the wrong read once or twice too. No one rips him a new one when he throws into double coverage. You and I are going to disagree here, let's leave it at that.


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Reply 32, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

I'm a Panthers fan. Horrible season so far. Mid way through the season, I was expecting to only win 2-4 games, get a good draft pick, and a real coach. A coach that knows how to motivate players, and NOT QUIT IN THE FOURTH QUARTER! Seems that we will finish the season being not good enough to contend for the playoffs, but not bad enough to get a good draft pick.

I hope the marginal success in the last 2 weeks doesn't save Rivera. I never wanted to hire him in the first place. All he does is stand on the sideline with a blank expression on his face. Apparently the GM (who was fired earlier this season) decided to hire Rivera, against the wishes of the Owner, Jerry Richardson. Hopefully Richardson will do what's right and get rid of this sad excuse for an NFL head coach.

We have a great athlete at QB (Cam Newton), some good receivers and a TE in Greg Olsen, along with possibly the best combination of RB's in the league, now if all of them weren't behind this patchwork O-line. We do need a little help with a free agent or good O-lineman in the draft, and then we will get Kalil back (who has been injured). We could definitely be a dangerous team next season.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 33, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 31):
Oh I don't know, maybe go over and talk to the kid that's in there trying to win the game, help him read the defense, give him tips and encouragement....

Were you at the game watching Cutler the whole time to know that didn't happen, or are you extrapolating the five second clips of disappointed Cutler that the TV people put on your screen?

Quoting ER757 (Reply 31):
You never saw Montana, Brady, Staubach, Marino, Manning act like the complete a-hole Cutler can be.

Oh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33V0hSri6BM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJxzqin81_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_-Lypb5QZc

Quoting ER757 (Reply 31):
No one rips him a new one when he throws into double coverage.

Are you kidding? People do all the time. Cutler's made plenty of God awful throws that shouldn't have been made or simply missed. And he's made throws without taking into account who he's throwing to. He reluctant to slide, take a sack, or throw the ball away and as a result it's cost the Bears some turnovers and Cutler at least one concussion.

But he's still the best quarterback in franchise history and is not particularly high on the list of reasons why the Bears are not a Super Bowl team. He makes some risky throws, but there is also the fact that this Bears offense is not good enough to win by being conservative.



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 34, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3567 times:

Quoting PSA53 (Reply 28):
My San Diego Chargers have won that award,by far

Your team didn't look like a sorry mess when they came to Heinz Field! Nope, that description is for the home team there! Altho personally, I like to use the term "ballerinas," but I guess that's just me...

Oh, here's another one from along those same lines: students from C.A.P.A. High School (Creative And Performing Arts)...



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2559 posts, RR: 7
Reply 35, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3556 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 33):
But he's still the best quarterback in franchise history and is not particularly high on the list of reasons why the Bears are not a Super Bowl team. He makes some risky throws, but there is also the fact that this Bears offense is not good enough to win by being conservative.

Not sure he's the best Bears QB ever - I never saw Sid Luckman but understand he was pretty darned good. Billy Wade got us a title in '63 (and yes I am old enough to have seen him). McMahon was great until that thug Charles Martin body-slammed him on his throwing shoulder.
On the rest of the quote above, we can DEFINITELY agree! Their O-line needs lots of work, the receivers aren't very good and they rely way too much on Forte. If they don't get turnovers, they lose. And back to my original statement, echoing others - Lovie and the rest of the coaching staff need to be sent packing.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 36, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 35):
I never saw Sid Luckman but understand he was pretty darned good.

...for the time. Being a quarterback in those days was a completely different proposition. Luckman attempted 1,744 passes in 128 games. Aaron Rodgers has amassed nearly that many passing attempts in just 83 games while Tom Brady eclipsed that in about 60 games. Modern quarterbacks are just on another level.

When it comes to physical quarterbacking ability, Cutler, and a lot of good modern quarterbacks, blow away any of the old Bears QBs. There aren't many guys from that era who would stack up these days.

Quoting ER757 (Reply 35):
And back to my original statement, echoing others - Lovie and the rest of the coaching staff need to be sent packing.

There has to be a plan. This can't be change for change's sake.



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5488 posts, RR: 13
Reply 37, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3517 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Thread starter):
Now for my rant (and I'm sure you all are going to be very surprised by it, too!)

The Steelers have become a joke of a franchise! Injuries, lack of play/passion/coaching, etc, has just lead to a laughable season. I know injuries are all part of the game, but is it just me, or do the Steelers seem to pile up more injuries than they do tackles or even offensive points for that matter! Their defense is almost non-existant, especially in the turn-over margin -- THEY HARDLY FORCED ANY!!!

Seriously, this is a team that needs to rebuild itself, especially with its defense! How many guys does it take to tackle someone?! I know old people with WALKERS who can tackle better! I'm glad I didn't watch todays debacle at Dallas, but I did watch enough of it to deduce that the defense was not going to tackle anyone. Anyone wishing to tune in to a Steelers game, don't waste 3-plus hours of your time! Go to an ice-capades or a ballet; you'd be better off!!

Many in my town Baltimore feel your pain and you could substitute Ravens for Steelers. Interesting how in many ways both our teams are alike and having the same challenges. Amazingly up till these last three games we (Ravens) were winning but our fortunes have turned. We did get lucky in a couple of our wins including that 4th. down and 29 yards, however, we got ruked in game 2 of the season against Philly with those Powder puff refferies during the ref strike.
I'm hoping we can at least win one of our two last games and save face. I do like our head coach and Ossie Newsome and our organization as a whole. Getting into the post season five years straight is a decent feet in itself!



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 38, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3486 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 37):
Many in my town Baltimore feel your pain and you could substitute Ravens for Steelers.

Sorry, I had to re-read that one. Seriously?

Yinz guys are 1st in the division and will likely win it. Pittsburgh's going to stumble/limp its way out of the playoffs. It's really a shame, too. Big Ben was having a hell of a year and then he sustained a severe injury. I'm not sure what the solution would be for Pittsburgh besides better younger players on defense. I kinda think that Lebeau is getting closer and closer to being finished. His defensive schemes look more like tricks -- and not the good kind either!! What happened to 2008?

To be honest tho, you do have a point. Baltimore's defense wasn't the same this year. Ray Lewis didn't do the team much good by spening the entire season on the sidelines. I loathe the guy with a burning passion, but he does make a difference on that unit. Same thing goes for our qb, Ben Roethlisberger. I can't stand him, but his presence (or lack thereof) is noticed...



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3387 posts, RR: 9
Reply 39, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3460 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 36):
Being a quarterback in those days was a completely different proposition. Luckman attempted 1,744 passes in 128 games. Aaron Rodgers has amassed nearly that many passing attempts in just 83 games while Tom Brady eclipsed that in about 60 games. Modern quarterbacks are just on another level.

I would agree with what you say but I will also say that the game (and it's rules) have changed to make the game more pass friendly than it was even in the 80's. Today's QB's are just representing that and in pro sports in general it is very difficult to compare talent from one generation to another.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 36):
There has to be a plan. This can't be change for change's sake.

  

A lot of teams are too gung-ho on sacking the coach when in many cases they aren't the biggest issue.

Quoting ER757 (Reply 31):
You never saw Montana, Brady, Staubach, Marino, Manning act like the complete a-hole Cutler can be.

I have seen Brady and Manning tell off tight-ends and receivers when they mess up a route and it results in a turnover. The only difference between those two guys and Cutler is that those guys win. That may not be fair but it is reality.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 38):
I'm not sure what the solution would be for Pittsburgh besides better younger players on defense.

The way the Steelers play (which I love) means that defensive players are going to take more risks and get hurt more. The same applies to Big Ben's style which along with Vick and RGIII they will likely get hurt more than a guy like Brady who hardly runs (hell even he missed a season from an injury)



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 40, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3373 times:

I know this may be off topic, but I'm actually going to the Eagles game this sunday! I won them at a raffel at the employee Christmas party at my job! I was supposed to work this sunday, but my supervisor took me off the schedule.  

Now I just need to find someone to go with...



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 41, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3372 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 40):

I know this may be off topic, but I'm actually going to the Eagles game this sunday!

Tough break.



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 42, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3371 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 41):
Tough break.

funny, BMI727. Verrry funny!



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 43, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3371 times:

You know what is going to be funny this weekend

Watching all the crybaby Cheeseheads rooting for Seattle to beat SF. They do that and Green Bay has the first round bye locked.


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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 44, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

Well, Pittsburgh is officially out of playoff contention. Also, the Eagles lost today (so BMI727, yeah, good call, haha). I still enjoyed myself at the game tho. I got the tickets from a raffel at work. If not for the Eagles tickets, I would have had to work today, but since I won them, I was taken off the schedule.  


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 45, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3245 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 44):
Also, the Eagles lost today

Let's see, the Eagles still suck and Alitalia is bleeding money. Basically it's a normal day.



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 46, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 45):
Basically it's a normal day.

Yep, pretty much. Now I just hope the Steelers can rebuild very quickly. I don't want there to be another 20-some-year hiatus between Super Bowls. I'll be in my 50s should that be the case!   

Of course at the same time, they have 6 more Super Bowls than what the Eagles have! Hopefully tho, this was Reid's final game. He can't manage time or call decent competitive plays to save his life! Get lost, Andy!



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 47, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3237 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 46):
Now I just hope the Steelers can rebuild very quickly.

Maybe Franco's cardboard Paterno can help.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 46):
Hopefully tho, this was Reid's final game.

I think he's finally hit the end of the road.

Honestly, the Eagles are one of the most over covered teams in the league, being a network darling along with the Jets and Cowboys whose play does not justify the attention. I know they have large fanbases and draw a lot of viewers, which is fine. I just want the network commentators to just say that rather than bend over backwards trying to convince me that these teams are good and the games matter when anyone with a pulse can tell you the Jets absolutely suck.



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Reply 48, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3234 times:

The final couple of games except for the hundred or so left until the end.


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Reply 49, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

Guess who beat the steelers today     


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 50, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3221 times:

0-21 Seahawks who who.

And I don't care what anybody saws, the hit on Davis was legal! No helmet to helmet in any of the replays!



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 51, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3202 times:

Yes!

When was the last time somebody had a large enough lead with the niners to finish a game with their second string?

Seattles Rolling, they would have had the division lead if New England had shown up for last weeks game



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 52, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3214 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 51):
Seattles Rolling, they would have had the division lead if New England had shown up for last weeks game

Seattle still has a chance to take the NFC West with Minnesota beating the Niners next week. I have hopes this will happen!

Great game tonight! Russell Wilson is truly AMAZING!!!

GO SEAHAWKS!!!



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User currently offlineTLG From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3194 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 40):
I know this may be off topic, but I'm actually going to the Eagles game this sunday!

I was at the Eagles game last Thursday against the Bengals. Since I'm not an Eagles fan I enjoyed the game, but the fans there showed their displeasure!


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Reply 54, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3191 times:

I thought Niners played Arizona next week.


Edit: At Candlestick

[Edited 2012-12-23 22:02:58]


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Reply 55, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

I think the Giants forgot that they were in the playoff hunt and didn't show up for the past 2 weeks. They lost 33-14 this week against the Ravens, and last week they lost 34-0 against the Falcons.   


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Reply 56, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3150 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 54):
I thought Niners played Arizona next week.

You're right! I don't know why the commenters after last nights game said that they play Minnesota next week.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 57, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3130 times:

Your realize f Seattle wns next week at home against St. Louis and Frisco loose they will be the NFC west champs, but if Green Bay also looses they will be the #2 seed.


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Reply 58, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days ago) and read 3095 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 57):
Your realize f Seattle wns next week at home against St. Louis and Frisco loose they will be the NFC west champs

I thought I just explained that with a Niner loss (incorrect opponent mentioned though, but its against Arizona) in reply 52.



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2559 posts, RR: 7
Reply 59, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3093 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 57):
Your realize f Seattle wns next week at home against St. Louis and Frisco loose they will be the NFC west champs,

If SFO loses to AZ they don't deserve to be division champs. Can't see it happening though. The Cardinals are a train wreck this season. I'd love to be proven wrong, though. Since my beloved Bears are all but out of it save some miracle, hope my adopted hometown's boys move up the ladder. They've been fun to watch the past few weeks. That beatdown they laid on the 49'ers Sunday night was amazing.





Quoting L-188 (Reply 50):
And I don't care what anybody saws, the hit on Davis was legal! No helmet to helmet in any of the replays!

You got that right! A terrible call by the refs. How the hell are you supposed to pay pass defense in the NFL these days? Seems like anything but a little tap on the shoulder is a penalty now.


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Reply 60, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3093 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 59):
Since my beloved Bears are all but out of it save some miracle

It wouldn't take a miracle. All it takes is Green Bay beating Minnesota and Chicago beating Detroit. Either of those things not happening would count as an upset.



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2559 posts, RR: 7
Reply 61, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 60):
All it takes is Green Bay beating Minnesota and Chicago beating Detroit. Either of those things not happening would count as an upset.

Hope you're right - but have you seen the Bears the last few weeks? Seems like someone let the air out of their tires.
But seeing as the Packers have something to play for (a higher seed) and Detroit has looked even worse than Da Bears recently, I'll remain optimistic. Thought the scenario was more complicated than that for them.....it's do-able.


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Reply 62, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3089 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 61):
have you seen the Bears the last few weeks? Seems like someone let the air out of their tires.

They went 7-1 playing mostly bad competition, which was not a coincidence. Since they've gone 2-5 playing mostly better competition, which also was not a coincidence.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 63, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

Yeah, it seems the Bears fall started when Seattle beat them!


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User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 63):
Yeah, it seems the Bears fall started when Seattle beat them!

The Bears fall started when the Texans beat them and they lost Cutler for a week and had to use Jason Campbell against the 49ers.



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Reply 65, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

Quoting dragon-wings (Reply 55):

Thank God for the little things. I also felt my team the Ravens got the fear of God in them and came to play. My only little gripe being during the second half their red zone performance was lacking but, we were well ahead so it didn't matter. Lets hope we can take care of business and mengel the Bengels and kick ass in the red zone.



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 66, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2968 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 49):
Guess who beat the steelers today

Yep... Enjoy the playoffs. Lord knows the next time I watch an NFL game will be during the 2013 NFL season...

Quoting TLG (Reply 53):

I was at the Eagles game last Thursday against the Bengals. Since I'm not an Eagles fan I enjoyed the game, but the fans there showed their displeasure!

Heck, the fans showed their displeasure in the refs on Sunday. To me, it did not look like he was still in the pocket. I was behind the endzone (north), but the play was taking place at the southern end of the field. With that call, the rule calls for a 10-second runoff. There was one second left in regulation...

Oh well. Overall we need better players and a coach who can not only manage a clock to save his life, but also who can call more competitive plays instead of running the same stupid shit every time they have the ball:

run it up the middle
run it up the middle
pass on 3rd and short yardage and not make it
punt

repeat...

After that first touchdown they really cooled off considerably...



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Reply 67, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2926 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 50):
And I don't care what anybody saws, the hit on Davis was legal! No helmet to helmet in any of the replays!

I agree. That was a pretty clean hit after seeing the replays. It doesn't matter now, Seattle beat San Francisco and now we look at the game vs the Rams next week. I have my hopes that Arizona beats San Francisco....but I can dream.....



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 68, posted (1 year 10 months 22 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 66):
Yep... Enjoy the playoffs. Lord knows the next time I watch an NFL game will be during the 2013 NFL season...

Well that's the Bengal's main issue....no one wants to go to the football games in person, so they black them out on TV.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12732 posts, RR: 25
Reply 69, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2685 times:

Isn't it time for Dallas to say goodbye to Tony Romo?

The guy almost always chokes in the big games.

That pick in the 4th quarter yesterday was unbelievably bad.

Even if he didn't see it coming, he clearly was tossing it and hoping for the best, which you just don't do during crunch time.



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User currently offlinecorocks From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2551 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 12):
Quoting steeler83 (Reply 8):
When was the last time the Bengals were in the playoffs, 2005?

2009. When they lost to the Jets.

Try last year when they lost to the Texans....

I am afraid Houston is going to be one and done. They should beat the Bengals again this year, but for some reason have totally collapsed at the end of the season. Biggest reason is that they cannot run the ball against good teams since they let half their offensive line go during the off season. It puts too much pressure on Schaub, who is a very good quarterback, but not great. He has pretty much sucked since his 527 yard game against Jacksonville. He totally sucked in our biggest losses to NE and GB. Or, they may have just peaked too early. The Texans offense better wake up really quick.


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