KiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 5305 posts, RR: 3 Posted (5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1220 times:
Watched a trailer for One Shot, the first Jack Reacher film, I'm staggered that the producers of this film and the author of the books Lee Child had the audacity to cast and approve that tiny midget Tom Cruise for the role of a man who is a 6'5 250 pound mountain of muscle, gotta be one of the biggest novel to film miscasts that I can think of. The books always talk about Reachers size, strength and physical presence, Tom has neither, size, strength or physical presence. It's gonna be hard for me to buy another Reacher novel after this, the Reacher in my mind has now been replaced by a couch jumping midget.
Aeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 595 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1199 times:
I guess if one doesn't know who Jack Reacher is (raises hand here) then it might not make a big difference.
I still think a lot of people may mock Cruise for his past antics, but find he still is capable of makimg good action type films. He has a very long history in films and people have not forgotten that.
I like him. But the public will decide if this film does well or not and if he can carry off "Jack Reacher". (Gotta research this Jack Reacher guy)...
KiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 5305 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1124 times:
Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 6): Lee Child's books are very popular here and I have read a couple. I wonder how Tom Cruise will portray Jack Reacher. On stilts?
The reviews of advance screenings I've read so far have been pretty blunt, his portrayal, it's a joke, especially when he takes his shirt off, people laughed.
rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6150 posts, RR: 25 Reply 8, posted (5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1112 times:
Quoting KiwiRob (Thread starter): It's gonna be hard for me to buy another Reacher novel after this,
I've never seen a film about a book I like where I thought the casting of the characters was right. Well, maybe Gregory Peck as Atticus Finch was close to right.
Never read a Reacher novel, don't really have any interest to do so.
When a book has to be boiled down to less than 100 pages to be turned into a movie - very much is always lost.
Now I prefer to read the book after seeing the movie so that the book can fill out the characters and story.
Your reaction is pretty much what the producers expected.
The truth is that there are a lot more Tom Cruise fans who will be happy with his portrayal than Jack Reacher fans who will be unhappy.
Aeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 595 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1107 times:
Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 7): The reviews of advance screenings I've read so far have been pretty blunt, his portrayal, it's a joke, especially when he takes his shirt off, people laughed.
sounds kind of childish (people laughing). He's 50+ years old. Still looks pretty damned good IMO. I've seen him recently shirtless (in pics).
vikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 8226 posts, RR: 28 Reply 11, posted (5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1092 times:
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Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 8): I've never seen a film about a book I like where I thought the casting of the characters was right.
Yep. The one that always sticks with me is Sam Neill playing Alan Grant in Jurassic Park, even though I like both the movie and the book. You just can't generally judge movies by the books they are based on; too much has to change, in terms of story, characters, etc...
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 8): The truth is that there are a lot more Tom Cruise fans who will be happy with his portrayal than Jack Reacher fans who will be unhappy.
And that's really all that matters to the production company.
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 8): Now I prefer to read the book after seeing the movie so that the book can fill out the characters and story.
I remember when I first saw Gone with the Wind. My first thought was, "uh, where are the other 700 pages?" Still a good movie, though.
"Two and a Half Men" was filmed in front of a live ostrich.
MWHCVT From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 573 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1051 times:
I must say I think it's the worst piece of casting in history
As I understand it, Cruise is the owner of the film right's I guess that he has decided to cast himself in the role, which is IMO a bit pathetic in itself
Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)
Ken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7461 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1022 times:
Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 6): I wonder how Tom Cruise will portray Jack Reacher.
Elevator shoes?
I have actually read some books where I though Tom Cruise (or someone similar) would be very good for the part. Jack Reacher isn't one. Maybe Ken McCoy in WEB Griffins series on the Marine Corps. Or even Vince Flynn's Mitch Rapp.
Actually I have long thought these types of characters would be great for up & coming actors - like Sean Connery in the original James Bond movies.
He has the Church of Scientology and maybe Cruise as Reacher can bring more sheep into the fold. Also with Mr. Cruise probably being a very in the closet Gay man this will promote and sell the "Jack Reacher Brand."
Geezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1426 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 998 times:
Quoting KiwiRob (Thread starter): Watched a trailer for One Shot, the first Jack Reacher film, I'm staggered that the producers of this film and the author of the books Lee Child had the audacity to cast and approve that tiny midget Tom Cruise for the role of a man who is a 6'5 250 pound mountain of muscle, gotta be one of the biggest novel to film miscasts that I can think of. The books always talk about Reachers size, strength and physical presence, Tom has neither, size, strength or physical presence. It's gonna be hard for me to buy another Reacher novel after this, the Reacher in my mind has now been replaced by a couch jumping midget.
Rob;
I'm completely un-familiar with Lee Child, or his "character", Jack Reacher; however, I agree with you completely on your post, which only one small "addition"................
Watched a trailer for One Shot, the first Jack Reacher film, I'm staggered that the producers of this film and the author of the books Lee Child had the audacity to cast and approve that tiny midget Tom Cruise for the role of a man who is a 6'5 250 pound mountain of muscle, gotta be one of the biggest novel to film miscasts that I can think of. The books always talk about Reachers size, strength and physical presence, Tom has neither, size, strength or physical presence. It's gonna be hard for me to buy another Reacher novel after this, the Reacher in my mind has now been replaced by a couch jumping midget idiot.
Cheers;
Charley
Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
zippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 4724 posts, RR: 13 Reply 16, posted (5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 992 times:
Quoting Geezer (Reply 15):
Watched a trailer for One Shot, the first Jack Reacher film, I'm staggered that the producers of this film and the author of the books Lee Child had the audacity to cast and approve that tiny midget Tom Cruise for the role of a man who is a 6'5 250 pound mountain of muscle, gotta be one of the biggest novel to film miscasts that I can think of. The books always talk about Reachers size, strength and physical presence, Tom has neither, size, strength or physical presence. It's gonna be hard for me to buy another Reacher novel after this, the Reacher in my mind has now been replaced by a couch jumping midget idiot.
Many times the novelist/author has little if any say on who plays the roles of the main characters.
This goes way back but, in the Ed Mc.Bain iconic 87th. Precinct mysteries the character Meyer Meyer was totally bald.
In the short lived one season TV show on NBC back in 1962 Norman Fell played Meyer Meyer. You know the late Mr. Roper!
Geezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1426 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 989 times:
Now that I've read the rest of the replies.............(and this is just my opinion........)
First of all, if I have zero respect for someone, if I just plain dislike them, if i think they are a "schmuck", (and given my very slight interest in movies in general), the chances that I would ever go see them in a movie is somewhere between "aint never gonna happen", and "are you kidding me?"
Tom Cruise "qualifies" on all three of the above. (IMO)
I couldn't possibly care less how many movies TC has made, how "successful" or "unsuccessful" any of them were, how many TC "fanboys" went to see any of them, at he end of the day, Tom Cruise is STILL a diminutive little "jerk", "jack-ass", "moron", and yes, a down-right "schmuck" whose only interest in life is......Tom Cruise. ( So you will never need to worry about running into me in theater showing a Tom Cruise flick.)
( And I might add, all of the above is even before the subject of "Scientology" is brought up.)
Charley
Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
zippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 4724 posts, RR: 13 Reply 18, posted (5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 984 times:
Quoting Geezer (Reply 17): I couldn't possibly care less how many movies TC has made, how "successful" or "unsuccessful" any of them were, how many TC "fanboys" went to see any of them, at he end of the day, Tom Cruise is STILL a diminutive little "jerk", "jack-ass", "moron", and yes, a down-right "schmuck" whose only interest in life is......Tom Cruise. ( So you will never need to worry about running into me in theater showing a Tom Cruise flick.)
( And I might add, all of the above is even before the subject of "Scientology" is brought up.)
Heck, I'd cast old Rudy from the first season of Survivor as Jack Reacher or Dennis Quaid. Casting Tomcat is almost as tacky as casting Richard Hatch as Jack REacher! Or Ben Aflac!
KiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 5305 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 970 times:
Quoting zippyjet (Reply 14): Also with Mr. Cruise probably being a very in the closet Gay man this will promote and sell the "Jack Reacher Brand."
If the movie prompts more people to buy and read the books it will make the casting of the midget appear even more daft once the great unwashed will realise the kinda guy Reacher is supposed to be, which is the opposite of the kinda guy the midget is.
mal787 From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 687 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (5 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 932 times:
Quoting KiwiRob (Thread starter): I'm staggered that the producers of this film and the author of the books Lee Child had the audacity to cast and approve that tiny midget Tom Cruise for the role of a man who is a 6'5 250 pound mountain of muscle, gotta be one of the biggest novel to film miscasts that I can think of.
I have read all the books, and little Tom as the lead will make me stay away . Beside the fact that I find him a useless actor IMHO , never watched a movie with him in it I have liked . So I will wait for the next book thanks
mal787
slider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6518 posts, RR: 37 Reply 22, posted (5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 891 times:
Quoting Geezer (Reply 17): First of all, if I have zero respect for someone, if I just plain dislike them, if i think they are a "schmuck", (and given my very slight interest in movies in general), the chances that I would ever go see them in a movie is somewhere between "aint never gonna happen", and "are you kidding me?"
Tom Cruise "qualifies" on all three of the above. (IMO)
I couldn't possibly care less how many movies TC has made, how "successful" or "unsuccessful" any of them were, how many TC "fanboys" went to see any of them, at he end of the day, Tom Cruise is STILL a diminutive little "jerk", "jack-ass", "moron", and yes, a down-right "schmuck" whose only interest in life is......Tom Cruise. ( So you will never need to worry about running into me in theater showing a Tom Cruise flick.)
( And I might add, all of the above is even before the subject of "Scientology" is brought up.)
You took the words out of my mouth....exactly my stance as well. I won't toss a red cent to Cruise's way or really toward many in Hollywood, especailly a cultist like him.
Darksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 982 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 877 times:
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 11): The one that always sticks with me is Sam Neill playing Alan Grant in Jurassic Park, even though I like both the movie and the book.
Or the same guy playing Vasily Borodin in Hunt for Red October. That totally should have been someone more like Sam Waterston. Come to think of it, casting Sean Connery as Marko Ramius could have been better too. The book paints someone a lot more like Harry Dean Stanton in look and demeanor.
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Sometimes if the actors are cast to match the book description - people still complain.
Such as the folks upset about Rue being played by a black girl in the Hunger Games movie where the book clearly says the character has very dark skin and tight curly hair.
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