''This place sucks ass and the owner is a worthless piece of sh*t. Feel free to go inside and spit in his face: (Eddie Nimibutr). You ask why? Well read his Facebook post about the children shot at the Newtown school in CT''
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cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7724 posts, RR: 55 Reply 2, posted (6 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2062 times:
Yes he is basically right - totally unjustified attack by the US (and UK and Australia) on Iraq kills, well, who knows, but most reliable numbers are north of half a million, many of whom are women and children - let's take a wild guess and say 100,000 children? No-one in the countries that prosecuted the war could care less.
Twenty white kids? The whole world stops spinning on it's axis.
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RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6351 posts, RR: 23 Reply 4, posted (6 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2016 times:
Whatever the rights or wrongs of people's muted reactions to events in far off places, it is totally not cool to belittle the fact that elementary school kids got murdered in their classrooms. I see what he meant, but really his comments made him just as bad as the things he so clumsily criticised.
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SmittyOne From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 906 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2011 times:
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 2): Twenty white kids? The whole world stops spinning on it's axis.
Indeed. The massacre really shook me up because I have a ten year old girl who is just like those kids that were killed...but a hundred little brown children getting taken out by a missle doesn't necessarily upset me. That's pretty damned sad.
I think his comment was insensitive as hell, but the truth often is. Unfortunately, instead of considering what we might learn from what the man had to say, he will be vilified and shouted down for having the balls to offer a contrary viewpoint.
RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6351 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1974 times:
Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 5): he will be vilified and shouted down for having the balls to offer a contrary viewpoint.
But he probably could have made his point without saying that he doesn't give a #*@# about the slaying of these kids, and so soon after it occurred while the country is shocked. I get what you mean, but his words were foolish at the very least in terms of their timing and specific make-up.
On another note, how popular is Yelp? Looks like there is a ton of negative postings on there, and that his business will likely suffer significantly. Am I likely to be correct in this assessment?
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SmittyOne From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 906 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1945 times:
Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 6): I understand and agree with his point. Unfortunately, the inflammatory way he stated it makes it easily to for others to dismiss and/or dance around.
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 7): But he probably could have made his point without saying that he doesn't give a #*@# about the slaying of these kids, and so soon after it occurred while the country is shocked. I get what you mean, but his words were foolish at the very least in terms of their timing and specific make-up.
Absolutely. He could/should have just reminded people that those on the receiving end of violence all over the world feel the same way that we do right now in the aftermath of this shooting.
Pyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3542 posts, RR: 28 Reply 9, posted (6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1835 times:
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 2): Yes he is basically right - totally unjustified attack by the US (and UK and Australia) on Iraq kills, well, who knows, but most reliable numbers are north of half a million,
And by reliable you of course mean totally pulled out of your ass... not to mention that the vast, vast majority of all civilian deaths in Iraq were caused by other Iraqis. But of course, they are such a noble and civilized people, totally incapable of slaughtering each other... must have been those big, bad westerners.
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PC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2262 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1824 times:
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 2): Twenty white kids? The whole world stops spinning on it's axis.
Maybe. But I am more than confident that if Iraqi, Syrian or whatever - kids were "killed" by troops weren't the specific targets when the troops picked up their weapons that morning. Those "white kids" were mowed down by a guy whose plan it was to do just that from the very beginning.
Just when I think you've said the stupidest thing ever, you keep talkin'!
and make sure you read the part about the rulings and how nobody was sentenced to jail for those crimes...but hey, the school gunman had the common decency to take his own life.
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sturmovik From India, joined May 2007, 313 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1649 times:
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 4): muted reactions to events in far off places
The outcry in the media was very much muted in the case of the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting that left 6 dead. This was not far off (for the US). Just sayin..
IMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6208 posts, RR: 42 Reply 15, posted (6 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1638 times:
Perhaps he should stand by what he said about nobody caring if the children don't have white skin. I doubt of they had been black or Mexican, even in the US, we would have this incessant jabbering by the talking heads. If it was outside the US it would receive almost no mention.
What is it with all the "is there a possibilty airline X will.." threads? The answer it'll is possible.
RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6351 posts, RR: 23 Reply 16, posted (6 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1631 times:
Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 15): Perhaps he should stand by what he said about nobody caring if the children don't have white skin. I doubt of they had been black or Mexican, even in the US, we would have this incessant jabbering by the talking heads. If it was outside the US it would receive almost no mention.
I have to say that I'm pretty surprised to hear this. Do you really think that if kids of a different colour were killed in the same way at a US school that there would be a different or lesser reaction? Very sad if you do. To be honest, the race of the children did not for a second enter my mind. I thought most of all how awful it was that they were children murdered during their school day when they should be at their safest. Understand, I am not criticising here, just genuinely surprised, as I view the USA as a fully multicultural nation.
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SmittyOne From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 906 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1597 times:
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 16):
I have to say that I'm pretty surprised to hear this. Do you really think that if kids of a different colour were killed in the same way at a US school that there would be a different or lesser reaction? Very sad if you do. To be honest, the race of the children did not for a second enter my mind. I thought most of all how awful it was that they were children murdered during their school day when they should be at their safest. Understand, I am not criticising here, just genuinely surprised, as I view the USA as a fully multicultural nation.
I think there is truth to it, unfortunately. Take note the next time a pretty, young white woman goes missing...it's national headlines for weeks. Obviously not a statistical proof by any stretch, but I can't recall the same level of national hysteria displayed in say the Natalie Holloway or Lacey Peterson cases being directed toward the disappearance of a non-white woman.
Rara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 1848 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1591 times:
Quoting Pyrex (Reply 9): not to mention that the vast, vast majority of all civilian deaths in Iraq were caused by other Iraqis.
Ah good, that makes it alright then.
Quoting Pyrex (Reply 9): But of course, they are such a noble and civilized people, totally incapable of slaughtering each other... must have been those big, bad westerners.
The point was that we aren't so much better than them, at least not as much as we like to think. But apparently it went right past you.
Samson was a biblical tough guy, but his dad Samsonite was even more of a hard case.
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 7839 posts, RR: 27 Reply 19, posted (6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1562 times:
Quoting Rara (Reply 18): Ah good, that makes it alright then.
it does not make it alright, but the huge number of civilian deaths caused by religious hardliners in countries like Iraq, Syria Pakistam Afhghanistan cannot be attributed to the USA- If a dictator is disposed and the peole do not take the chance to start living a peaceful life, instead cooking up their local feuds again which had been suppressed by the dictaor. then that's bad enough.
May be we should stop trying to bring "democracy", better, the rule of the law (and I do not mean the sharia) to countries that are not up to date to know what that is, in that case I am with you. As long as a certain religion has not gone through the process of enlightenment (the relatively few educated are not enough to persue that) we may look away. The question is, can we afford that? Shuld we look to the other side when school kids are murdered, should we ignore that nurses vaccinating kids against polio are killed? Should we allow illiterates to set the world back 500 years? Inclduing the diseases that had or have almost disappeared?
Mr. Nimibutr is not a particularly smart person, jeopardizing his business that way. Losing his business is certainly his problem. But may be we should not listen to the "arguments" such people have.
BTW, talking about caves, that other video is stunning as well. Unbelievable what cops are allowed.
something From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 24 Reply 20, posted (6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1542 times:
Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 17): Take note the next time a pretty, young white woman goes missing...it's national headlines for weeks. Obviously not a statistical proof by any stretch, but I can't recall the same level of national hysteria displayed in say the Natalie Holloway or Lacey Peterson cases being directed toward the disappearance of a non-white woman.
HoMsaR From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 827 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1494 times:
Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 17): I think there is truth to it, unfortunately. Take note the next time a pretty, young white woman goes missing...it's national headlines for weeks. Obviously not a statistical proof by any stretch, but I can't recall the same level of national hysteria displayed in say the Natalie Holloway or Lacey Peterson cases being directed toward the disappearance of a non-white woman.
Ever hear of Alexis Patterson?
What about Elizabeth Smart?
Alexis Patterson was a young girl from Milwaukee, WI, who was abducted and disappeared from her elementary school playground one day about 10 years ago. It made local news for a little while, then news faded away. Her disappearance apparently didn't warrant any national news attention.
One month later, Elizabeth Smart goes missing. National news for weeks.
Sadly we have a way to go on becoming a multicultural nation. I just look north of my location to the people in Phoenix who are quite offended when they see a "Mexican" on the street and demand that their papers be checked to see if they "belong". It is very sad that the man in question did not think before inserting his foot in his mouth but it is an understandable outburst. Stupid for a public statement but those calling for his assault are equally stupid.
What is it with all the "is there a possibilty airline X will.." threads? The answer it'll is possible.
Rara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 1848 posts, RR: 3 Reply 26, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1133 times:
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 19): it does not make it alright, but the huge number of civilian deaths caused by religious hardliners in countries like Iraq, Syria Pakistam Afhghanistan cannot be attributed to the USA- If a dictator is disposed and the peole do not take the chance to start living a peaceful life, instead cooking up their local feuds again which had been suppressed by the dictaor. then that's bad enough.
Not all countries are able to organize themselves freely and democratically. Yugoslavia was a disaster waiting to happen which Tito kept under control. With him gone, terrible events unfolded which - perhaps - could not have been averted in any way.
If Iraq is not yet able to function without an authoritarian leader, and if you take that leader out (out of self-interest, one may add), then yes, you're quite resposible for the events that follow.
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 19): May be we should stop trying to bring "democracy", better, the rule of the law (and I do not mean the sharia) to countries that are not up to date to know what that is, in that case I am with you. As long as a certain religion has not gone through the process of enlightenment (the relatively few educated are not enough to persue that) we may look away. The question is, can we afford that? Shuld we look to the other side when school kids are murdered, should we ignore that nurses vaccinating kids against polio are killed? Should we allow illiterates to set the world back 500 years? Inclduing the diseases that had or have almost disappeared?
Yes to all of the above, I'm afraid. I may be a pessimist, but I don't believe in the ability of countries to make objective and detached decisions about intervening in the affairs of others. Iraq is a good example. Americans believed that they BOTH increased their own safety and did the Iraqis a favour by removing Saddam. Today we know that only of the two was the case, if at all. So yes, I think that we generally shouldn't meddle in the affairs of others. We shouldn't sell them weapons, rig their elections, divide their country, train their soldiers, etc. etc. While it may be well-intentioned for one moment, it will only lead to trouble and sometimes tragedy in the long run.
Samson was a biblical tough guy, but his dad Samsonite was even more of a hard case.
HoMsaR From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 827 posts, RR: 0 Reply 27, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1037 times:
Quoting Rara (Reply 26): We shouldn't sell them weapons, rig their elections, divide their country, train their soldiers, etc. etc. While it may be well-intentioned for one moment, it will only lead to trouble and sometimes tragedy in the long run.
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