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Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"  
User currently offlinemichiganatc From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 133 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 22736 times:

On Fox News' homepage, a story about special airline paint schemes. Personally, I'm surpirsed this is a news story, but still fun to read.


http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2012/1...airlines-for-real/?intcmp=features

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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Romania, joined Feb 2007, 1749 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 22016 times:

"If you see a yellow tailed plane that looks like a raccoon then your looking at Germanwings’ Airbus A320"

Journalism these days.... I think, at the very least, they should be able to spell.

User currently offlineSCQ83 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 469 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 21751 times:

What's fake or weird about Germanwings? Slow news day I guess.

User currently offlinealfa164 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 21332 times:

Germanwings is a lot more real that the "news" on Faux News...

User currently offlineflyguy89 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1637 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 21139 times:

Interesting. I had never seen the Kulula plane in that green livery before, pretty cheeky of them lol. I think Eva Air's Hello Kitty theme is deplorable though   

User currently offlineplateman From United States of America, joined May 2007, 907 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 20904 times:

Speaking as a member of the media, it's all about pageviews this time of year. Historically, from now through New Years, they drop quite a bit so you need stuff like this to make up that loss.


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User currently offlineB727FA From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 20254 times:

That's the most "news" I've seen on FoxViews.


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User currently offlinezschocheimages From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 18613 times:

I love how the author kept saying "airliner" when referring to different airlines.


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User currently offlinecanyonblue17 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 370 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 18614 times:

Speaking as a former member of the media, this is an example of why I got out.

User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3252 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 18135 times:

I wonder how much Fox News would pay me to write a badly-written, non-informative article on miscellaneous airlines of the world that's full of grammatical errors...?


Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineRara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 1848 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 17854 times:

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 5):
What's fake or weird about Germanwings? Slow news day I guess.

Bad choice of pictures. In the article they talk about 4U's special bear livery, which admittedly is a bit unusual, but they chose a regular new livery for the pictures. Bad editing.


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User currently offlinenorthstardc4m From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2829 posts, RR: 40
Reply 11, posted (6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16731 times:
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... the grammar, oh god help us... proofreaders anyone?
Useless article written by someone in a hurry, probably sitting as a filler article for years before they needed to put something up, and just hastily updated and posted.


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User currently offlineushermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2890 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16629 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):
"If you see a yellow tailed plane that looks like a raccoon then your looking at Germanwings’ Airbus A320"

It's good to see that they can't even get the animal right, not to mention the grammar.


Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16094 times:

Someone should send FoxNews this thread. L. O. L. The author is a jackass.

I'm surprised that they didn't even research thoroughly....and no U.S. carrier is even in that article. (Hooters Air doesn't exactly count as that was operated by Pace, IIRC). I wonder where this author got her journalism degree from......

Disgusting article..... Good Riddance!!!!


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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2053 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15784 times:
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Although many members have a strong view on Fox News we ask that you still remain on topic. You don't have to like the source, but please provide constructive criticism to the discussion.
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User currently offlineTbone354 From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 15094 times:
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Thank you jetblueguy22. I will quit while I am ahead!

User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4316 posts, RR: 36
Reply 16, posted (6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 14744 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 14):
Although many members have a strong view on Fox News we ask that you still remain on topic. You don't have to like the source, but please provide constructive criticism to the discussion.

While I can certainly understand your sentiment, is that not really the main discussion? Not so much the topic, but that a supposedly reputable news source would be filled with so many inaccuracies, and grammatical errors. It is like when a movie comes out, or a television show pertaining to airlines appears ... we pick apart the errors, with glee!

I am still trying to figure out what this was trying to say ...

Its main hubs are Thunder Bay and Sudbury’s Canada.


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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2053 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 14425 times:
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Quoting longhauler (Reply 16):
While I can certainly understand your sentiment, is that not really the main discussion? Not so much the topic, but that a supposedly reputable news source would be filled with so many inaccuracies, and grammatical errors. It is like when a movie comes out, or a television show pertaining to airlines appears ... we pick apart the errors, with glee!

I do agree the article is not the best piece of journalism. For the sake of discussion though it is better to point out what is wrong with the article rather than just instantly dismissing it as garbage without stating your reasoning for coming to that decision.
Blue


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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Romania, joined Feb 2007, 1749 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 14341 times:



I know, it looks like a yellow-tailed raccoon (the Cozumel raccoon), but it's actually a Germanwings yellow-tailed plane that looks like a raccoon!

Hah! Your eyes deceived you!

User currently offlineNWADTWE16 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13252 times:

Not surprised that Fox news would tell people the racoon they are seeing is actually an airplane LOL

User currently offlineaviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1348 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (6 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12990 times:

It's especially annoying when there is no option to email the author or source to comment on an article's problems or errors. Wasn't that one of the supposed selling points of online journalism -- that it was more "interactive," and because of that reporters would be more accountable?


PS


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User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1634 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12387 times:
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I think these 2 points illustrate the depth of the article:

"The good news for consumers is that Department of Transportation tells FoxNews.com they rarely receive complaints that sellers of air transportation are not legitimate operators. Still it never hurts to do your homework."

"FoxNew.com turned to travel writer and expert Lee Abbamonte, the youngest American to visit every country in the world, to give us his insights into a few lesser-known airlines."

User currently offlinereality From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 380 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11991 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 17):
I do agree the article is not the best piece of journalism. For the sake of discussion though it is better to point out what is wrong with the article rather than just instantly dismissing it as garbage without stating your reasoning for coming to that decision.
Blue

I think people have been very clear about what is wrong with the article. They are not criticizing it solely because it is Fox News. I think all media is criticized on this forum. This inept article simply happens to be from Fox. Shouldn't be taken as political criticism as you seem to be implying.

User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2053 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11455 times:
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Quoting reality (Reply 22):

Some posts have been removed due to the bringing of politics into the discussion. That is what I was referring to, not the thread in its current state.
Blue


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User currently offlinepanam330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2603 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 11162 times:

Dear god, proofread your freaking writing. A multinational news conglomerate can't decipher the difference between your and you're?! My six year old nephew is better with grammar and spelling.

User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5476 posts, RR: 20
Reply 25, posted (6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10642 times:

What I found most interesting was the giant list of airlines banned from flying in Europe. Never in my life would you catch me on any of those!

User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3326 posts, RR: 19
Reply 26, posted (6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8867 times:

Consider the source..


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User currently offlineskyguyB727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 589 posts, RR: 1
Reply 27, posted (6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7698 times:

That has to be a fake article. There are too many misspellings in it.

Here are the examples that jumped out at me:

"If you’re like me and not familiar with foreign airliners..."---should be airlines
"This low-cost airliner has been flying for more than ten years.."---Did Kulula get a bargain price on the 737?
"Germanwings is a safe carrier with a young fleet of modern air crafts."--should be aircraft. It's one word without an s.
"Its main hubs are Thunder Bay and Sudbury’s Canada."--It's Sudbury, not Sudbury's.
"...flights between Canadian cities like Thunder Bay to Sioux Lockout..."--It's Sioux Lookout, not Lockout.
"Industry analysts said the airliner ran into competition with other low-fair carriers..."--should be airline
"U.S. airliners have very strict requirements to meet before they can sell or even transport passengers..."--who do the airplanes sell the passengers to?

A fourth grader could have written a better article.

User currently onlinethrufru From Marshall Islands, joined Feb 2009, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (6 months 22 hours ago) and read 6258 times:

Does anyone else find it interesting that the most popular picture today is of a Germanwings AB with a very different livery?

User currently offlinekeegd76 From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Aug 2009, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (6 months 22 hours ago) and read 6096 times:
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Quoting thrufru (Reply 28):
Does anyone else find it interesting that the most popular picture today is of a Germanwings AB with a very different livery?

When I first looked at it I thought, 'where the heck did they get a raccoon from?'

Had to Google it to find what I assume is the livery they're referring to and even then it still doesn't look like a raccoon  


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User currently offlinebond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 8
Reply 30, posted (6 months 22 hours ago) and read 5936 times:

Quoting skyguyB727 (Reply 27):
That has to be a fake article. There are too many misspellings in it.

It's very sad that it isn't fake.

Because I had nothing better to do, I copy and pasted into MS Word, which pointed out numerous mistakes ...so I have absolutely no idea how this poor example of writing is possible.

It's truly unbelievable.


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User currently offlinebj87 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (6 months 22 hours ago) and read 5641 times:

Wow, as an English teacher this makes me squirm!

I am not a journalist but isn't it common practice that someone else (editor) reads your article before it is published?

If I had a student turn this in I would be pissed. Even a simple MS word spelling check could have fixed a bunch of these mistakes. This article shows a total lack of effort in my opinion, bad grammar and shabby contents at best.

It's a bit of a "will it blend" episode. Take some random facts, pictures and words, put it in a blender and poor it on a piece of paper.

Very unprofessional writing.

On a more positive note, I do like the idea behind the article. For people that normally don't have an interest in aviation it will be fun to browse through some of the pictures and read some of those random "facts".

User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6105 posts, RR: 10
Reply 32, posted (6 months 21 hours ago) and read 5378 times:

Ohhhh good old "Sudbury's, Canada"...

User currently offlineneutrino From Singapore, joined May 2012, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (6 months 20 hours ago) and read 4499 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 9):
I wonder how much Fox News would pay me to write a badly-written, non-informative article on miscellaneous airlines of the world that's full of grammatical errors...?

You must be kidding.
Its the "writers" who paid Fox to have their scribbings published.  


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User currently offlineTwoSixLeft From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (6 months 20 hours ago) and read 4087 times:

Quoting The Article:
With so many bucket airlines out there today, how do you know if the deal you just got on a ticket is actually from a legitimate airline?

Ah, yes, those good old bucket airlines.


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User currently offlineteusje From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (6 months 17 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

I find it quite strange that with all the remarks on grammar and spelling and what not, nobody picked on the fact that the "BearBus" was an A.319, not an A.320.
I thought this was an aviation forum.  


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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Romania, joined Feb 2007, 1749 posts, RR: 4
Reply 36, posted (6 months 14 hours ago) and read 854 times:

Quoting teusje (Reply 35):
I find it quite strange that with all the remarks on grammar and spelling and what not, nobody picked on the fact that the "BearBus" was an A.319, not an A.320.

Who says we didn't? But we can't expect the right aircraft type from someone who can't spell!

User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 3892 posts, RR: 13
Reply 37, posted (6 months 14 hours ago) and read 854 times:

Quoting northstardc4m (Reply 11):
... the grammar, oh god help us... proofreaders anyone?

The real problem with the state of journalism today is two-fold:
- 24 news cycle and the rise of "gotcha" articles, and
- disappearance of effective editors. Everyone's their own editor now. It is simply unacceptable to review your own work.


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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1349 posts, RR: 7
Reply 38, posted (6 months 13 hours ago) and read 829 times:

This is particularly painful for me. I used to be the Managing Editor for my school's newspaper, mainly for my business acumen as opposed to any journalistic skill, but I still made sure that nothing went to print without it landing on my desk first. How is it that I can command such quality from a handful of English majors for a paper with a circulation of only a few thousand, yet this multi-national news organization can't? Mind-boggling.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 37):
- 24 news cycle and the rise of "gotcha" articles, and
- disappearance of effective editors. Everyone's their own editor now. It is simply unacceptable to review your own work.

I suspect you're correct. Although this article is the furthest thing from breaking news, so one would expect some degree of proofreading...


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