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What Will Lance Say To Oprah?  
User currently onlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7685 posts, RR: 4
Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

I think he's going to come clean and admit to being a cheating scumbag. What do others think?

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User currently offlineflipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2854 times:
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he' 'll come clean but be all emotional about it and claim he's sorry and start crying but cc claim he doesn't want sympathy. I think people should try and avoid watching it and show that he is not even worth the effort. he is a disgrace as a human and should never be forgiven.

Fred


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7714 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

Whatever he says will no doubt be too little, too late. He had a million chances to come clean in the past, and not only maintained innocence but aggressively and persistently asserted that he had been unfairly maligned.


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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6845 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2825 times:

I hope that he will only be allowed to compete again if he gives really detailed descriptions of all the cheating he was involved in.

On the other hand from what I've read coming clean would be quite dangerous for his wealth and even freedom, so I'm wondering if that's really what he'll do.



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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8709 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2803 times:

He will say "Oprah, I just realized I am a narcissist and a psychopath. I now realize I need to seek help for these mental illnesses. Some of us are defective people!! Can you forgive me? No??? Why I oughtta --"

User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2934 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2761 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Thread starter):
What do others think?

Who the hell really cares what Armstrong says or dose anymore, the guys a first class looser and should never be seen on TV again !

I wont be watching that's for sure.



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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12148 posts, RR: 49
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2732 times:
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I think he will still say he is innocent.


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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6474 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2727 times:
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Quoting flipdewaf (Reply 1):
he is a disgrace as a human and should never be forgiven.

I have no simpathy for the guy but the above is borderline sychotic.


User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2941 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

Wouldn't it be a serious liability for him to admit any guilt ??? The guy swore under oath he never took any steroids ....

[Edited 2013-01-09 18:54:16]


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User currently offline3DoorsDown From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2652 times:

He's probably going to announce he is writing a book and all proceeds from the book will be going to whatever charity he is/was part of. Only after 1.5 million morons buy the trash he is selling will he go on David Letterman and admit he is a chronic liar and he only needed the money to stick something new in his arm. David will of course say, "That's OK Lance, why don't you come over to my house for tea and we'll see what we can do to get you elected. I'm great with liars."

User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5501 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

He will do a Tom Cruise and act like an ass and jump on the couch and maybe he may claim to be born again and found Jesus!
Moo cow Oprah will be in the limelight again and this could be the springboard for her new venterOMG Oprah's Major Gabfest." or Oh My God, or Oh My Gracious. Oprah is a junky for the limelight and something tells me she wants back into the homes and minds of us sheeple five days a week. But this show will featured jacked up celebrities, politicians, f'd up rock stars, athletes etc. Look for LiLo, the Kartrashians, Justin Bieber finally coming out to the world with Oprah, even Larry King lassoing something with his suspenders and taking out his false teeth. Great TV moments in the making.     



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User currently onlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2626 times:

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 6):

I think he will still say he is innocent.

C'mon man he cheated and we all know it.

However while he cheated so did everyone else who lost to him, up to the next 70 guys cheated in some of those Tour De France's.

Here is a solution lets take the first clean guy with today's testing standards vs a clean Armstrong and see who wins a cycling race.

He cheated but is still the best there is in the cycling world.



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User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2941 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2619 times:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/20962663

interesting article on this....



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User currently offlineRedd From Poland, joined Jan 2013, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2598 times:

He donated millions to charity, raised tens of millions more, worked with sick children, survived cancer several times. And he doped and lied about it. Is he a role model? Maybe not but....

Quoting flipdewaf (Reply 1):
he is a disgrace as a human and should never be forgiven.
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 2):
I am a narcissist and a psychopath
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 5):
first class looser


Really?

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 11):
However while he cheated so did everyone else who lost to him

Exactly, he was just the most popular and easiest to make the sacrificial lamb.


User currently offlinerlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1097 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2581 times:

I think he will say that he used subtances and methods that were not illegal at the time. I think his doctors were good enough to stay one step ahead of the anti doping people.

Hiw can it be explained that he passed so many tests for so many years?



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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12148 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2525 times:
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Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 11):
Quoting luv2fly (Reply 6):

I think he will still say he is innocent.

C'mon man he cheated and we all know it.

He is going to keep singing the same song. I'm innocent why won't no one believe me. Look what I did and I did it on my own. Please believe me. And buy my live long yellow bands, I love you Nike!



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7714 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

Quoting Redd (Reply 13):
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 2):
I am a narcissist and a psychopath

Not my words - please quote more carefully.



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User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 4065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

Quoting Redd (Reply 13):

He donated millions to charity, raised tens of millions more, worked with sick children,

How much of that was done off the back of his success that he gained by allegedly doping?

Reading more and more about him, having known nothing about him prior to this story blowing up, I can see from reports both contemporary to this story and reports predating this story considerably that his public face is little more than a thin facade which he uses, and the real person underneath is quite different in personality.


User currently offlineRedd From Poland, joined Jan 2013, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 16):
Not my words - please quote more carefully.

Sorry about that.

Quoting moo (Reply 17):
How much of that was done off the back of his success that he gained by allegedly doping?

Hopefully we'll find out soon. But if the allegations that the majority of the competing cyclists were doping is true as well then I don't know why the spotlight is solely on Armstrong.


User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 4065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2490 times:

Quoting Redd (Reply 18):
Hopefully we'll find out soon. But if the allegations that the majority of the competing cyclists were doping is true as well then I don't know why the spotlight is solely on Armstrong.

Over the years I've seen plenty of other riders and athletes under the spotlight for performance enhancing violations, so its far from just Armstrong being picked on, but the reason why Armstrong is in the spotlight now is because he's been dogged wi allegations for the past 20 years or so and the nature and extent of the violations are to such a degree that it's become quite a good deal.

A lot of the techniques he is alleged to use have been banned for a long time, but have been difficult to test for - hence after-the-fact reexamination of the tests done shedding new light on matters, which just goes to show that you might get away with things now, but better tests will always come along. The testers can improve their techniques at any point in the future, but the abuser cannot equally benefit from better techniques to hide past infractions because the blood has already been taken.

The fact that the allegations against Armstrong don't stop with him, but instead covers team members etc and many others, all designed to support him in events, and his success is why this is a big thing.


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10258 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2477 times:
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Who really cares what he says?

More to the point, who really cares about Oprah's latest show?  

If I had to place a bet, I'd say he's going to come out as gay.

Quoting moo (Reply 17):
Quoting Redd (Reply 13):

He donated millions to charity, raised tens of millions more, worked with sick children,

How much of that was done off the back of his success that he gained by allegedly doping?

So.....if he admits he doped, should we take all that money back from the charities and hospitals and children?

And this still annoys me:

US Anti-Doping Agency (Usada)

Stupid non-capitalized acronyms....



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User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 4065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2472 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 20):
So.....if he admits he doped, should we take all that money back from the charities and hospitals and children?

I never said that, but some people are using it as a justification or excuse for his behaviour - does the end justify the means?


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6845 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2465 times:

The others that doped and that he beat have all been caught and didn't lie as long as him. Also, he is not suspected of just doping but of being the provider for his team members, the famous "Postal train" that greatly helped him win all his titles. Other leaders may have doped as much as him but not necessarily their team members.

Furthermore he had the best techniques that existed. Besides, some "naturally gifted" riders may not benefit much from doping, while someone with less abilities will gain greatly, so you can't just say "they all doped so it's fine".



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7714 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 20):
Who really cares what he says?

More to the point, who really cares about Oprah's latest show?

This is probably the best opinion of the thread so far. I suppose we 'care' to some micro-extent, else we wouldn't be posting here, but I think the desire to comment is probably driven more by outrage and/or irritation than any kind of real concern.



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User currently onlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2591 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2449 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 10):

  
Moo-cow Oprah.....made my day! But you owe me a new monitor - this one's got coffee stains all over it now.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 2):
Whatever he says will no doubt be too little, too late.

Yep - after as long as he steadfastly denied it he can't just expect everyone to say it's OK to tell the truth now.
Of course, as others have said, pretty much everyone else at the time was cheating too so he should have gotten to keep his TDF titles in my opinion.


25 strandedinbgm : "Thanks for having me"
26 TheCommodore : Wow, so that makes it alright then to lie ? How much of that money he donated to charity was won unjustly ? All of it ! Which is the very reason why
27 RobertNL070 : Oh dear, another attention whore fessing up to Oprah? It is not as if Oprah is the most aggressive, in-depth journalist. It'll be a teddy bear's picni
28 zippyjet : Thank you, you made my day! But I must disagree with you. Instead of hitting me up for a new monitor, the only thing thats thin with me is my bank ac
29 Redd : You may or may not be right. If you are then you are mostly right but I still think the outrage is over the top. We have politicians all over the wor
30 mal787 : Yes Oprah , your arse does look big in those bike pants. Who really cares he is a cheat and nothing he says will correct that mal787
31 johns624 : What are you talking about? You obviously haven't been following the sport. Have you ever heard of Jan Ullrich, Marco Pantani, Tyler Hamilton and a m
32 zippyjet : Oprah latches on, she's a publicity hound (over sized obese bulldog) and she coddles these wah wah wo is me people. She let Tom Cruise jump on her Ik
33 Flighty : He is a defective person. He royally deserves to be meticulously and fully shamed for this. People who hide behind cancer charities to outrun their s
34 Post contains links alberchico : http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/...sorry-livestrong-staff-report-says looks like he is starting to apologize to those affected.....
35 Post contains links sturmovik : http://www.philly.com/philly/enterta...s_welcome_arms_for_confession.html Reports say he's confessed.
36 zippyjet : He used this as a crutch to get out of going down on his women. Just saying. His ex Cheryl Crow was also a Cancer survivor but you don't see her shoo
37 Aesma : Well it's pretty likely that his cancer was caused by doping substances to begin with.
38 aerorobnz : anyone who ever said that professional sport was about the sport was lying, it's about winning because winning brings more money, more sponsorship and
39 qantas077 : The question I find myself asking is if he ever did have cancer? Or was that part of the elaborate cover up too?
40 Post contains links and images alberchico : http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/...its-doping-interview-oprah-winfrey http://espn.go.com/olympics/cycling/.../8854829/situation-was-one-big-lie wo
41 Dano1977 : He actually gave a very limited admission of guilt, and flat-out denied many of the accusations in the USADA report. For example, he claimed that he w
42 LTBEWR : Some news reports have cited that the statute of limitations as to certain potential crimes, especially on the Federal level, may have run out. so mak
43 RussianJet : Another typical loser-liar tactic - admit to a little bit of wrongdoing so that people will be fooled into believing the rest of your bullshit by thi
44 iakobos : A few jewels from a 6 months' old thread. He has taken 500+ drug tests in his racing career and failed 0. 'nuff said... Yeah, I call BS on that one. N
45 TheRedBaron : Judging from this thread no one will remember tiger woods in a decade, they only speak of a sex addict, same here on Lance. Reality Check...all sports
46 Post contains images scbriml : Yes, he underwent brain surgery and chaemotherapy as part of an elaborate deception. I have zero sympathy for Lance Armstrong the cheating cyclist, b
47 dragon-wings : My only question is how did he beat all drug tests he took when racing the tour de france.
48 Aesma : Well Tiger Woods didn't cheat. The sex addiction story was an "only in the US" kind of thing. It seems he really needed to fuck around to be on top o
49 zippyjet : Just the way many including myself will view former Eagle's and Falcon's quarterback Michael Vic as "The Doggy Murderer," or as a buddy of mine calls
50 iakobos : In theory it is (was) quite simple. Get yourself pumped up crescendo starting early on in the season, well before the races you are targeting. Have a
51 zippyjet : During Armstrong's peak when he was the darling of the media I believe he had the fortune of being liked by hot young athletic chicks. Many of these
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