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What Will Lance Say To Oprah?  
User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7444 posts, RR: 5
Posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2809 times:

I think he's going to come clean and admit to being a cheating scumbag. What do others think?

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User currently offlineflipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2803 times:
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he' 'll come clean but be all emotional about it and claim he's sorry and start crying but cc claim he doesn't want sympathy. I think people should try and avoid watching it and show that he is not even worth the effort. he is a disgrace as a human and should never be forgiven.

Fred


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2792 times:
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Whatever he says will no doubt be too little, too late. He had a million chances to come clean in the past, and not only maintained innocence but aggressively and persistently asserted that he had been unfairly maligned.


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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6690 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2774 times:

I hope that he will only be allowed to compete again if he gives really detailed descriptions of all the cheating he was involved in.

On the other hand from what I've read coming clean would be quite dangerous for his wealth and even freedom, so I'm wondering if that's really what he'll do.



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User currently onlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8572 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2752 times:

He will say "Oprah, I just realized I am a narcissist and a psychopath. I now realize I need to seek help for these mental illnesses. Some of us are defective people!! Can you forgive me? No??? Why I oughtta --"

User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2874 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Thread starter):
What do others think?

Who the hell really cares what Armstrong says or dose anymore, the guys a first class looser and should never be seen on TV again !

I wont be watching that's for sure.



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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2681 times:
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I think he will still say he is innocent.


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User currently onlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6241 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2676 times:
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Quoting flipdewaf (Reply 1):
he is a disgrace as a human and should never be forgiven.

I have no simpathy for the guy but the above is borderline sychotic.


User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

Wouldn't it be a serious liability for him to admit any guilt ??? The guy swore under oath he never took any steroids ....

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User currently offline3DoorsDown From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2601 times:

He's probably going to announce he is writing a book and all proceeds from the book will be going to whatever charity he is/was part of. Only after 1.5 million morons buy the trash he is selling will he go on David Letterman and admit he is a chronic liar and he only needed the money to stick something new in his arm. David will of course say, "That's OK Lance, why don't you come over to my house for tea and we'll see what we can do to get you elected. I'm great with liars."

User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5486 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

He will do a Tom Cruise and act like an ass and jump on the couch and maybe he may claim to be born again and found Jesus!
Moo cow Oprah will be in the limelight again and this could be the springboard for her new venterOMG Oprah's Major Gabfest." or Oh My God, or Oh My Gracious. Oprah is a junky for the limelight and something tells me she wants back into the homes and minds of us sheeple five days a week. But this show will featured jacked up celebrities, politicians, f'd up rock stars, athletes etc. Look for LiLo, the Kartrashians, Justin Bieber finally coming out to the world with Oprah, even Larry King lassoing something with his suspenders and taking out his false teeth. Great TV moments in the making.     



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3383 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 6):

I think he will still say he is innocent.

C'mon man he cheated and we all know it.

However while he cheated so did everyone else who lost to him, up to the next 70 guys cheated in some of those Tour De France's.

Here is a solution lets take the first clean guy with today's testing standards vs a clean Armstrong and see who wins a cycling race.

He cheated but is still the best there is in the cycling world.



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User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/20962663

interesting article on this....



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User currently offlineRedd From Poland, joined Jan 2013, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2547 times:

He donated millions to charity, raised tens of millions more, worked with sick children, survived cancer several times. And he doped and lied about it. Is he a role model? Maybe not but....

Quoting flipdewaf (Reply 1):
he is a disgrace as a human and should never be forgiven.
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 2):
I am a narcissist and a psychopath
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 5):
first class looser


Really?

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 11):
However while he cheated so did everyone else who lost to him

Exactly, he was just the most popular and easiest to make the sacrificial lamb.


User currently onlinerlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2530 times:

I think he will say that he used subtances and methods that were not illegal at the time. I think his doctors were good enough to stay one step ahead of the anti doping people.

Hiw can it be explained that he passed so many tests for so many years?



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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2474 times:
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Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 11):
Quoting luv2fly (Reply 6):

I think he will still say he is innocent.

C'mon man he cheated and we all know it.

He is going to keep singing the same song. I'm innocent why won't no one believe me. Look what I did and I did it on my own. Please believe me. And buy my live long yellow bands, I love you Nike!



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2463 times:
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Quoting Redd (Reply 13):
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 2):
I am a narcissist and a psychopath

Not my words - please quote more carefully.



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User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3970 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

Quoting Redd (Reply 13):

He donated millions to charity, raised tens of millions more, worked with sick children,

How much of that was done off the back of his success that he gained by allegedly doping?

Reading more and more about him, having known nothing about him prior to this story blowing up, I can see from reports both contemporary to this story and reports predating this story considerably that his public face is little more than a thin facade which he uses, and the real person underneath is quite different in personality.


User currently offlineRedd From Poland, joined Jan 2013, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2449 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 16):
Not my words - please quote more carefully.

Sorry about that.

Quoting moo (Reply 17):
How much of that was done off the back of his success that he gained by allegedly doping?

Hopefully we'll find out soon. But if the allegations that the majority of the competing cyclists were doping is true as well then I don't know why the spotlight is solely on Armstrong.


User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3970 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2439 times:

Quoting Redd (Reply 18):
Hopefully we'll find out soon. But if the allegations that the majority of the competing cyclists were doping is true as well then I don't know why the spotlight is solely on Armstrong.

Over the years I've seen plenty of other riders and athletes under the spotlight for performance enhancing violations, so its far from just Armstrong being picked on, but the reason why Armstrong is in the spotlight now is because he's been dogged wi allegations for the past 20 years or so and the nature and extent of the violations are to such a degree that it's become quite a good deal.

A lot of the techniques he is alleged to use have been banned for a long time, but have been difficult to test for - hence after-the-fact reexamination of the tests done shedding new light on matters, which just goes to show that you might get away with things now, but better tests will always come along. The testers can improve their techniques at any point in the future, but the abuser cannot equally benefit from better techniques to hide past infractions because the blood has already been taken.

The fact that the allegations against Armstrong don't stop with him, but instead covers team members etc and many others, all designed to support him in events, and his success is why this is a big thing.


User currently onlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10048 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2426 times:
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Who really cares what he says?

More to the point, who really cares about Oprah's latest show?  

If I had to place a bet, I'd say he's going to come out as gay.

Quoting moo (Reply 17):
Quoting Redd (Reply 13):

He donated millions to charity, raised tens of millions more, worked with sick children,

How much of that was done off the back of his success that he gained by allegedly doping?

So.....if he admits he doped, should we take all that money back from the charities and hospitals and children?

And this still annoys me:

US Anti-Doping Agency (Usada)

Stupid non-capitalized acronyms....



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User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3970 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 20):
So.....if he admits he doped, should we take all that money back from the charities and hospitals and children?

I never said that, but some people are using it as a justification or excuse for his behaviour - does the end justify the means?


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6690 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2414 times:

The others that doped and that he beat have all been caught and didn't lie as long as him. Also, he is not suspected of just doping but of being the provider for his team members, the famous "Postal train" that greatly helped him win all his titles. Other leaders may have doped as much as him but not necessarily their team members.

Furthermore he had the best techniques that existed. Besides, some "naturally gifted" riders may not benefit much from doping, while someone with less abilities will gain greatly, so you can't just say "they all doped so it's fine".



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2407 times:
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Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 20):
Who really cares what he says?

More to the point, who really cares about Oprah's latest show?

This is probably the best opinion of the thread so far. I suppose we 'care' to some micro-extent, else we wouldn't be posting here, but I think the desire to comment is probably driven more by outrage and/or irritation than any kind of real concern.



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2536 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 10):

  
Moo-cow Oprah.....made my day! But you owe me a new monitor - this one's got coffee stains all over it now.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 2):
Whatever he says will no doubt be too little, too late.

Yep - after as long as he steadfastly denied it he can't just expect everyone to say it's OK to tell the truth now.
Of course, as others have said, pretty much everyone else at the time was cheating too so he should have gotten to keep his TDF titles in my opinion.


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Reply 25, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2874 posts, RR: 8
Reply 26, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2410 times:

Quoting Redd (Reply 13):
Really?

Wow, so that makes it alright then to lie ?

How much of that money he donated to charity was won unjustly ? All of it !

Which is the very reason why its wrong.

The guy is a disgrace and nothing more.



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User currently offlineRobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4532 posts, RR: 9
Reply 27, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2478 times:

Oh dear, another attention whore fessing up to Oprah? It is not as if Oprah is the most aggressive, in-depth journalist. It'll be a teddy bear's picnic. If Lance Armsrong had a pair he'd allow himself to be interviewed by Jeremy Paxman.


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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5486 posts, RR: 13
Reply 28, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 24):

Thank you, you made my day! But I must disagree with you. Instead of hitting me up for a new monitor, the only thing thats thin with me is my bank account/finances! I suggest you go make an appeal to the Queen Hippo for a new monitor. She will hook you up for one sounding all officous and sanctimonious where in reality she has a tie in to a company who is actually footing the bill for your monitor replacement just like when she gave her audience new Pontiac Cars (lemmons) actually it was her tie in with Government/General Motors.

When Moo Cow hosted a local gabfest show in B-More back in the 70's she was cool and we all wondered wtf was an Oprah? I heard she's pretty cool in person but has a beauty queen mentality but bovine/hippopotomus pachderm lard and in charge body; I believe she was under 200 pounds in her baby pictures. Gotta love our great nation, you can moo and pander to stupid famous people and be as rich or richer than your average Wall STreet criminal! And mark my words, the prancing taking those tushy butt steroid shots will either come out and or proclaim that JC is his number one hero/savior.
He and Justin Bieber just may come out together as a love couple and be the darling go to dandy celebritards for Pachyderm Winfrey's gabfest. Then she can annoint her self the Wide Load Plus Size Diva Queen of All Media!



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User currently offlineRedd From Poland, joined Jan 2013, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2416 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 26):
Wow, so that makes it alright then to lie ?

How much of that money he donated to charity was won unjustly ? All of it !

Which is the very reason why its wrong.

The guy is a disgrace and nothing more.

You may or may not be right. If you are then you are mostly right but I still think the outrage is over the top. We have politicians all over the world doing much worse things with our money and that actually affects us directly.

Although I do believe he is lying and he had been using performance enhancing drugs for a long time but it's still speculation at this stage.

I think that this Lance situation is being used to cover up how dirty the sport really is. We know that there has been many cyclists doping for a LONG time and nothing major has been done about it. I don't think we should be concentrating solely on Armstrong but on why doping has been allowed to go on for such a long time. I'm of the opinion that this goes much deeper then the individual athlete.


User currently offlinemal787 From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2406 times:
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Yes Oprah , your arse does look big in those bike pants.

Who really cares he is a cheat and nothing he says will correct that

mal787



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User currently offlinejohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 923 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Quoting Redd (Reply 29):
I think that this Lance situation is being used to cover up how dirty the sport really is. We know that there has been many cyclists doping for a LONG time and nothing major has been done about it. I don't think we should be concentrating solely on Armstrong but on why doping has been allowed to go on for such a long time. I'm of the opinion that this goes much deeper then the individual athlete.

What are you talking about? You obviously haven't been following the sport. Have you ever heard of Jan Ullrich, Marco Pantani, Tyler Hamilton and a multitude of other first tier/team captains who have been busted for doping in the last 15 years?


User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5486 posts, RR: 13
Reply 32, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

Quoting mal787 (Reply 30):



Oprah latches on, she's a publicity hound (over sized obese bulldog) and she coddles these wah wah wo is me people. She let Tom Cruise jump on her Ikea couch. She legitimizes these borderline personality people with questionable scruples.

In today's crunchy granola society that feminizes men and anything goes as long as it's not politically incorrect it seems being a druggie (skin popping steroids, testesterone and boner enhancement pills) is ok actually it is chic. But, if you are seriously mentally ill you are still stigmatized and God forbid if you say anything that is politically incorrect or perceived as such, you are eligable for scorn and even a one way trip to "Gitmo."



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User currently onlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8572 posts, RR: 2
Reply 33, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

Quoting Redd (Reply 13):
Exactly, he was just the most popular and easiest to make the sacrificial lamb.

He is a defective person. He royally deserves to be meticulously and fully shamed for this.

People who hide behind cancer charities to outrun their shames are no better for it.

Some people lose with integrity. Each one of those losers is ten times the competitor Lance is. Those are the people we should be listening to. Lance should be washing dishes somewhere, if he could be trusted in a position with that much responsibility. Personally I'd say no.


User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2143 times:

http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/...sorry-livestrong-staff-report-says

looks like he is starting to apologize to those affected.....



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User currently offlinesturmovik From India, joined May 2007, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

http://www.philly.com/philly/enterta...s_welcome_arms_for_confession.html

Reports say he's confessed.



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5486 posts, RR: 13
Reply 36, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

Quoting Flighty (Reply 33):
He is a defective person. He royally deserves to be meticulously and fully shamed for this.

He used this as a crutch to get out of going down on his women. Just saying. His ex Cheryl Crow was also a Cancer survivor but you don't see her shooting rhoids in her tushy or drinking Comet. Though she only uses three pieces of toilet paper and doing it for the environment. Maybe that got Lancey poo to tune out, turn on and shoot substances up his derrierre.

Oprah should come out and tell Lance that she can't stop chewing cud and dining on Twinkies and Mac and Cheese.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6690 posts, RR: 12
Reply 37, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1869 times:

Well it's pretty likely that his cancer was caused by doping substances to begin with.


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User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7210 posts, RR: 13
Reply 38, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1855 times:

anyone who ever said that professional sport was about the sport was lying, it's about winning because winning brings more money, more sponsorship and cheating is rife in just about every code of every professional sport. Sports people these days are not worth all the BS hero worship thrust upon them, as they all have to cheat to survive, cheat to gain the financial backing to continue.

He's a lying c*nt for sure,but how many other lying c*nts in pro sport go unnoticed every day of every year.

He could say anything he likes, it's whether or not it's true or whether he believes in what he says that counts....


User currently offlineqantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5859 posts, RR: 40
Reply 39, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

The question I find myself asking is if he ever did have cancer? Or was that part of the elaborate cover up too?


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User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1755 times:

http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/...its-doping-interview-oprah-winfrey


http://espn.go.com/olympics/cycling/.../8854829/situation-was-one-big-lie

wow......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=r8AJ-Apz_6A

just wow  crazy   crazy   crazy 

[Edited 2013-01-17 21:08:46]


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User currently offlineDano1977 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Jun 2008, 499 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

He actually gave a very limited admission of guilt, and flat-out denied many of the accusations in the USADA report. For example, he claimed that he was clean during his comeback in 2009 & 2010 (he's already been stripped of his results for those races), and denied the story about having a positive test covered up in 2001. So either the report is part fact, part fiction, or Armstrong still isn't telling the whole story. And he's still basically calling his accusers liars.

I've only seen selected highlights from the interview, but he comes across terribly - bordering on sociopathic at times. He looked up "cheating" in a dictionary and decided that it didn't apply to him? The worst part was probably when he was asked about Emma O'Reilly and admitted that he couldn't remember whether he sued her or not, because "we sued so many people...".

Pretty obvious why he went for Oprah rather than a proper journalist though - she let an awful lot of things go by without following up. At one point she even showed a video of him lying under oath, but never actually asked him whether he had lied under oath or not. Most of the commentary i've read this morning is very sceptical of his story, and pretty critical of his "performance" too. I can't help but think that he's going to face much tougher questioning in the not-too-distant future.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 42, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

Some news reports have cited that the statute of limitations as to certain potential crimes, especially on the Federal level, may have run out. so making it very difficult to prosecute criminal charges and if convicted or made a deal, to face jail time.

Like many 'sinners' he is wanting repentance from the public. He is also like many such competitive athletes, with a certain pathlogical mental state, that they believe they can say anything and get away with it - and he has until recently. To me he has no creditability, he is just trying to cover his sorry butt and will go down in history as just some sad, sick person who will have ruined competitive cycling and our attitudes toward athletes in general.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 43, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1629 times:
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Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 41):
He actually gave a very limited admission of guilt, and flat-out denied many of the accusations in the USADA report. For example, he claimed that he was clean during his comeback in 2009 & 2010 (he's already been stripped of his results for those races)

Another typical loser-liar tactic - admit to a little bit of wrongdoing so that people will be fooled into believing the rest of your bullshit by thinking you've turned honest.



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User currently offlineiakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3313 posts, RR: 35
Reply 44, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

A few jewels from a 6 months' old thread.

He has taken 500+ drug tests in his racing career and failed 0. 'nuff said...


Yeah, I call BS on that one.

News flash to T.H..............The world will always remember Lance Armstrong as the greatest rider the sport has ever had; period.


This whole process just reaks of stupidity. It's a total whichhunt. They are looking for evidence to support a conclusion.

It's amazing the lengths some seem to want to go here...the man has a story that's hard to beat and an indomitable will. The French accept as "fact" that he doped...well there's a lot of things the French seem to resent when their guys lose, and they get angry and en masse groupthink their way to vilification of their opponents and excuses as to why their side lost.

Wake me when they find anything.... until then, why even talk about it?


I guess it's time to wake up guys and learn a lesson or two.


User currently offlineTheRedBaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2225 posts, RR: 9
Reply 45, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1608 times:

Judging from this thread no one will remember tiger woods in a decade, they only speak of a sex addict, same here on Lance.

Reality Check...all sports are full of cheaters is one way or another... and cater to companies for money...this is no different.



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12573 posts, RR: 46
Reply 46, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1614 times:
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Quoting qantas077 (Reply 39):
The question I find myself asking is if he ever did have cancer? Or was that part of the elaborate cover up too?

Yes, he underwent brain surgery and chaemotherapy as part of an elaborate deception.   

I have zero sympathy for Lance Armstrong the cheating cyclist, but I think you're possibly the only person in the World who doubts he had cancer.



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User currently offlinedragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3986 posts, RR: 0
Reply 47, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

My only question is how did he beat all drug tests he took when racing the tour de france.


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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6690 posts, RR: 12
Reply 48, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1522 times:

Quoting TheRedBaron (Reply 45):
Judging from this thread no one will remember tiger woods in a decade, they only speak of a sex addict, same here on Lance.

Reality Check...all sports are full of cheaters is one way or another... and cater to companies for money...this is no different.

Well Tiger Woods didn't cheat. The sex addiction story was an "only in the US" kind of thing. It seems he really needed to fuck around to be on top of the sport, though.

All sports have cheaters and many don't really try to find them (like football/soccer) however not in all sports has doping the same results, you won't become a start basketball player thanks to products.

Quoting dragon-wings (Reply 47):
My only question is how did he beat all drug tests he took when racing the tour de france.

Well there are many tactics, for example when he mentions blood transfusions, those weren't detectable until a few years ago. If you used your own blood that is.



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5486 posts, RR: 13
Reply 49, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1461 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 48):

Just the way many including myself will view former Eagle's and Falcon's quarterback Michael Vic as "The Doggy Murderer," or as a buddy of mine calls him Michael Convict!



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User currently offlineiakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3313 posts, RR: 35
Reply 50, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1418 times:

Quoting dragon-wings (Reply 47):
My only question is how did he beat all drug tests he took when racing the tour de france.

In theory it is (was) quite simple.

Get yourself pumped up crescendo starting early on in the season, well before the races you are targeting.
Have a team of highly specialized "doctors" devising the right (undetectable or hardly detectable) mixture in which the latest discovery by lab X or lab Y plays a major role.
They will use a stock of your own blood for tuning it properly at the appropriate time.
This provides 95% of the required "doped condition" when you will race.

During a tour fill ups will be needed on certain occasions.
Make sure the delivery of the substance and its ingestion are discrete.
To thwart the possible visit by officials at an inopportune moment, build up a network of observers and informants.
Make sure that everyone in and close to the team is fully drilled, use intimidation when necessary.
...and the most important, get results and make everyone involved a winner, QED.

The "biological passport", which allows someone's blood parameters to be compared over time and unexplainable modifications to be detected, started to be used in summer 2008 but is not yet fully developed.


User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5486 posts, RR: 13
Reply 51, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1320 times:

Quoting iakobos (Reply 50):

During Armstrong's peak when he was the darling of the media I believe he had the fortune of being liked by hot young athletic chicks. Many of these hottie women helped keep the chemical pipeline moving till their final destination the butt of Mr. Armstrong. I wouldn't put it past them to have one of those scantilly clad girls be the one who administered those cocktails. Also the "goodies" were delivered in white lunch bags to those deemed worthy of enhancing their performance. And Lance made it to that exclusive shooting gallery. He eventually got a little white bag. He was bag wothy.



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