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User currently offlinepropilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 598 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

Obamas 2nd inauguration is coming up Monday January 21, 2013, will you be watching? I will watch as much as I can, or actually I'll just set the DVR to record it and then watch the playback, cause I got a job interview, etc. But I did get to watch the first one live in 2009, its pretty cool, lots of action, I heard Obama wants to raise minimum wage to $12, well that would be nice, but we ourselves have to watch how we spend too you know, cause if we ran out of oil right now, the world would come screeching to a halt.....you cant put paper money inside the gas tank....lol   and I hope the Secret Service doesn't blow up again making a mistake like they did in Colombia with the prostitution affair....all eyes will be watching....Peace!!

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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2666 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
, I heard Obama wants to raise minimum wage to $12, well that would be nice

No it wouldn't. It would incentivize business to hire yet more illegal immigrants under the table and thus reduce legitimate, if menial, job opportunities for citizens.

I will not watch any of the inaugural festivities. It makes zero sense to have an "inauguration" ceremony for someone who's already in the office.

I was saying the exact same thing about Dubya's second inauguration; and he was a president I voted for.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19681 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

I have always been of the opinion that there should not be an inauguration for second-term Presidents. A swearing-in, sure. But this is a big, expensive, and time-consuming use of resources.

I don't care what party they are; a second term just doesn't call for the kind of pomp and circumstance that a first one does.

I'll be doing something else.


User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5414 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
I don't care what party they are; a second term just doesn't call for the kind of pomp and circumstance that a first one does.

Agreed.

To tell you truth, I think we put too much pomp into first inaugurations...but that's just me.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
I'll be doing something else.

I'll be sleeping...night-shift, don't you know.



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User currently offlinepropilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

Hey I dont disagree with you guys on what you said, Im for it as well, action always speaks louder than words thats for sure.....yea the pomp and glitter of the life of this world is surely a waste, you look at secondary and third world countries and they dont even spend vast amount of tax payer dollars on expensive events like the inauguration....your right one time is enough for Gods sake. Were in enough debt as it is, and were getting whacked by hurricanes and more natural disasters from the Unseen, what more do we need??

User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7173 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

Who cares. He is already our president. I was in D.C. In the national mall for his first one. I lived there so that is the only reason I went. I also lived 4 blocks from the White House and 15min walk from the national mall so it was an easy walk.mit is pretty cool to see D.C. Just shut down but man it is expensive. I had two army hammers parked in front of my place for 3 days. So much police and army around. It's nuts.


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User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

i love pomp of all kinds and all political leanings. I was glued to reagans funeral, glued to dianas death, glued to the william and Kate wedding , Obamas first inaug and will for his second. Oscars, golden globes, baftas, cesars etc etc. lol.

Inaugurations have been going on for decades and it's their right. Aren't they mostly privately funded anyway?

Two schools from here in Hawaii have raised their OWN funds to participate in the parade. Obama's alma Punahou school and I can't remeber the other. Kamehameha perhaps? or Iolani?? No matter. it'll be a joy to watch them.


User currently offlinepropilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1904 times:

Yea no doubt about the security, I know and heard about it on the news. Over 10,000 security personnel, including civil and military, FBI, CIA, Secret Service, ATF, DEA, US Army, Navy, Air Force, National Guard, you name it, you got it, I mean come on, you've got the entire US Presidential Cabinet + Congress, etc. The entire airspace will be shut down, patrolling with air force fighter planes, armed helicopters, surface to air missiles, weapons of mass destruction lol  etc. The threat can come from anywhere, remember Bush's 2nd inauguration....someone threw an egg at the Presidents limo, the Secret Service just stopped and watched.

User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11643 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

Quoting Airstud (Reply 1):
It makes zero sense to have an "inauguration" ceremony for someone who's already in the office.
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
a second term just doesn't call for the kind of pomp and circumstance that a first one does.

If people are so upset about second inagurals, why is this the first time people are upset about it? I don't remember anyone being upset over Reagan's second, Clinton's second or W second. I mean the whole pomp and circumstance of it. I don't ever remember hearing anyone upset over how much a second one costs and why are we spending so much on a second one until Obama. I do remember not as many people were captivated by Clinton or W second, but nothing like the backlash we see for Obama.



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User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):

Is it he, of the legends, guys?

Quoting Airstud (Reply 1):
No it wouldn't. It would incentivize business to hire yet more illegal immigrants under the table and thus reduce legitimate, if menial, job opportunities for citizens.

You can also hire locals for "black" work, you know... (Yes, I realize, as soon as you are going black, might as well go immigrant). If you play it right, people would get more than minimum wage, and your costs would go down even. VERY common in some industries over here, even if it is not about the "minumum wage" part, more about "I am not paying squat on wage taxes". (While the taxes on employees income are officially paid by the employee, technically it is the employers accounting who handles it. There are tricks ranging from simple underdeclaration of wages paid to an elaborate system of contracts between employee as a person, employer, contractor, employee as a company etc.)

Quoting seb146 (Reply 8):
I do remember not as many people were captivated by Clinton or W second, but nothing like the backlash we see for Obama.

The economy wasnt "bad" back then, you know.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6648 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1811 times:

Quoting Fabo (Reply 9):
The economy wasnt "bad" back then, you know.

Exactly. The French president (and elected officials in other countries) has reduced his salary by 30%, same for all the ministers. The traditional 14th of July garden party at the Elysée Palace has been scraped since 2009 or thereabout, some are talking about scraping the military parade too (especially since tanks ruin the pavement). Those are needed sacrifices when you raise taxes, close loopholes, etc.



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User currently offlineus330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3871 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1801 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
But this is a big, expensive, and time-consuming use of resources.

Relative to what?

I'm going because I live 20 minutes from the national mall, and don't have to mess with public transit.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19681 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1786 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 8):
If people are so upset about second inagurals, why is this the first time people are upset about it?

I just said... I don't care what party. I wasn't happy about W's, either. For Reagan's, I was 6 or so, so I don't suppose I really cared.

You can't seriously be thinking that I --of all people-- am anti-Obama.


User currently onlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10007 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1785 times:
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Quoting seb146 (Reply 8):
I don't remember anyone being upset over Reagan's second, Clinton's second

Well, I tried to complain about them on A.net, but found that A.net didn't exist yet.

Strange.



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User currently onlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1779 times:
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Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
I hope the Secret Service doesn't blow up again

Maybe not the best choice of words, huh? Hahahaha.

Are you going to write them a letter if things don't go as planned? If so, post it here!

TIS



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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5414 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1726 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 8):
I do remember not as many people were captivated by Clinton or W second, but nothing like the backlash we see for Obama.

You're really going to turn this into a "we're bashing this only because it's Obama" thread. Please.

I personally think the whole inauguration schitck smacks too much of a coronation. The parade, the parties, the swearing in. It's just annoying. Hell, didn't it lead to one presidential death?

Sorry, when Jan 20th, or in this case, the 21st rolls around, There should be a swearing-in, a speech and then, we should get down to the business of running the government. Especially, if it's the second time around.



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User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1712 times:

I won't be watching. Obama generally pisses me off when he speaks.


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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2666 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1656 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 12):
You can't seriously be thinking that I --of all people-- am anti-Obama.

A guy can dream...

  



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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25235 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1495 times:
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I'm not American and I think the inaugurations are terrific - a moment of celebration amid the usually acrimonious battles of politics.

They may be the circus part of bread and circuses, but we don't live by bread alone.

I thought this one was terrific, for all sorts of reasons and not least for the President placing the gay rights movement in its proper context.

I especially loved Richard Blanco's poem, which I thought was tremendous, echoing Walt Whitman, and Beyonce's version of the anthem - lip-synced or not, I don't care, I found it quite moving.

Thanks, America.  

mariner



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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5414 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1485 times:

I did get to listen to President Obama's speech and a few of the other things going on. The speech was ok, nothing really memorable about it. A little more ideological than I expected, but to tell you the truth, this would be the first one I listened to live since Reagan's second address in 1985. We were forced to listen to it in high school. I try to read them a little later on.

I'm just not an inauguration type of guy.

I guess there is a place for it.



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2861 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1483 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 19):
I guess there is a place for it.

It could have been much more low key IMHO, don't get me wrong, its a tremendous event to celebrate, just not twice with all the hoopla involved, especially for a re-election of a President. At the moment, America has better things to spend its money on I'm sure.



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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Na...I'll be remembering the words of Dr. Martin Luther King in silence as I find myself repeating his famous words..."I have a Dream"...Amen Mr. King!...But the coronation of the second coming of the King Obama?...well..."I too once had a dream"...thanks lots King Obama.

User currently offlinedaedaeg From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

I enjoy all the pomp and circumstance. It's great way to celebrate democracy and showcase the Capitol. I love it. People who don't like it have the right not to watch it at all.


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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12463 posts, RR: 37
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

Quoting propilot83 (Reply 7):
The threat can come from anywhere, remember Bush's 2nd inauguration....someone threw an egg at the Presidents limo, the Secret Service just stopped and watched.

That's only because they wanted to do it first. Let's face it, over 95% of the population of DC voted against Bush, so it was hardly surprising.

I'm delighted that Obama was re-elected and I wish him every success over the next four years. Mind you, can't think his foreign policy people will be too happy today; it's a "double whammy" (to quite a British phrase!) ... Cameron giving an in-out vote on the EU and Netanyahu re-elected in Israel (and will probably even be more hardline than before, due to the need to accommodate even more right wing parties).


User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

Quoting daedaeg (Reply 22):
People who don't like it have the right not to watch it at all.

  

I live in Capitol Hill within a short walk of the Capitol, yet I chose to stay home and enjoy a day off with the hubby. I do think that the entire ceremony is a bit too much pomp and bling of my taste but I don't think the President has much to say about it. The committees organizing the events have been doing so for months, meaning that the event was going to take place regardless of who won the elections. Besides, an Inauguration Committee did raise private funds for some of the balls and celebrations so it wasn't all public funds paying for it.

Then again, I do understand that some people will always complain about them anyway simply because, inevitably, the President will always belong to someone's opposing party.

Quoting mariner (Reply 18):
I thought this one was terrific, for all sorts of reasons and not least for the President placing the gay rights movement in its proper context.

  


25 Aeri28 : Great post Charles 79. It's also Tradition. [In someone elses words]: Ever since George Washington's first inaugural in 1789, the peaceful transition
26 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : I did not watch the ceremony livecast... this is rather revealing. This second oath flub is less obvious than during the first inaugural but it is the
27 Post contains links mariner : The President had already taken the oath of office - in private - on the 20th, as required: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/p...n-4-times-17175778
28 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Barack Obama provides landing pad for fly Not even the Secret Service could keep the fly away from Barack Obama's furrowed brow. The buzzing insect st
29 Post contains links and images Superfly : Yes. President Harrison gave the longest acceptance speech (2 hours) in which he caught pneumonia and died 32 days after taking the oath of office. H
30 Aeri28 : nah, that's not it. Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet,, so we just didn't realize people weren't as civilized as we thought. a. Reagan had not
31 2707200X : Funny how anti-Obama conservatives love to claim Martin Luther King Jr. is a modern day conservative when he supported civil rights for all people as
32 Darksnowynight : Maybe, but he's your dad! My folks have some goofy opinions about stuff too, but I wouldn't want to see them in a home over it. This, you are 100% co
33 Post contains images Superfly : Agreed. That just goes to show the mentality of some of those on the far left. Their lack of respect for human life of those they disagree with is sh
34 MadameConcorde : Ha Ha Good one!! Yes. It shows. Very nervous and uncomfortable indeed. I have watched many US Presidents inaugurations and even attended one (Preside
35 Post contains images Superfly : Well, the Internet wasn't around, that's for sure. If I had lied to the people of Indonesia or Kenya and rose to the level of the highest office ther
36 Post contains images mariner : Hmmm? It was the Chief Justice who started the flub at the first Obama swearing-in by feeding the wrong line to the President. mariner
37 Superfly : The cue-card was wrong......err......John Roberts read the line wrong. I remember that and I knew then that he got it wrong. John Roberts was appoint
38 mariner : Nobody's perfect. mariner
39 Post contains images soon7x7 : Interesting read/ video...thanks!. By the way, just read Egypt's Leader, Marci is to receive 200 US tanks and 12 F-16's from the Obama administration
40 seb146 : How so? Carter: let every American worship as they please. Obama: let every American worship as they please. I fail to see the difference. Oh, wait..
41 fr8mech : How does that match up with his HHS regulations?
42 Ken777 : And it would reduce the federal funds going out to pay for various benefits - corporate welfare by any other name. We need to have a minimum wage tha
43 fr8mech : I think it's more political tradition than political process. I'm not sure exactly how many presidents have been sworn in before the actaully ceremon
44 Ken777 : More like both when you get down to it.
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