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User currently offlinepropilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 592 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1914 times:

Obamas 2nd inauguration is coming up Monday January 21, 2013, will you be watching? I will watch as much as I can, or actually I'll just set the DVR to record it and then watch the playback, cause I got a job interview, etc. But I did get to watch the first one live in 2009, its pretty cool, lots of action, I heard Obama wants to raise minimum wage to $12, well that would be nice, but we ourselves have to watch how we spend too you know, cause if we ran out of oil right now, the world would come screeching to a halt.....you cant put paper money inside the gas tank....lol   and I hope the Secret Service doesn't blow up again making a mistake like they did in Colombia with the prostitution affair....all eyes will be watching....Peace!!

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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2620 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1909 times:

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
, I heard Obama wants to raise minimum wage to $12, well that would be nice

No it wouldn't. It would incentivize business to hire yet more illegal immigrants under the table and thus reduce legitimate, if menial, job opportunities for citizens.

I will not watch any of the inaugural festivities. It makes zero sense to have an "inauguration" ceremony for someone who's already in the office.

I was saying the exact same thing about Dubya's second inauguration; and he was a president I voted for.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19275 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1909 times:

I have always been of the opinion that there should not be an inauguration for second-term Presidents. A swearing-in, sure. But this is a big, expensive, and time-consuming use of resources.

I don't care what party they are; a second term just doesn't call for the kind of pomp and circumstance that a first one does.

I'll be doing something else.


User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5327 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1894 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
I don't care what party they are; a second term just doesn't call for the kind of pomp and circumstance that a first one does.

Agreed.

To tell you truth, I think we put too much pomp into first inaugurations...but that's just me.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
I'll be doing something else.

I'll be sleeping...night-shift, don't you know.



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User currently offlinepropilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 592 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1894 times:

Hey I dont disagree with you guys on what you said, Im for it as well, action always speaks louder than words thats for sure.....yea the pomp and glitter of the life of this world is surely a waste, you look at secondary and third world countries and they dont even spend vast amount of tax payer dollars on expensive events like the inauguration....your right one time is enough for Gods sake. Were in enough debt as it is, and were getting whacked by hurricanes and more natural disasters from the Unseen, what more do we need??

User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7083 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

Who cares. He is already our president. I was in D.C. In the national mall for his first one. I lived there so that is the only reason I went. I also lived 4 blocks from the White House and 15min walk from the national mall so it was an easy walk.mit is pretty cool to see D.C. Just shut down but man it is expensive. I had two army hammers parked in front of my place for 3 days. So much police and army around. It's nuts.


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User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

i love pomp of all kinds and all political leanings. I was glued to reagans funeral, glued to dianas death, glued to the william and Kate wedding , Obamas first inaug and will for his second. Oscars, golden globes, baftas, cesars etc etc. lol.

Inaugurations have been going on for decades and it's their right. Aren't they mostly privately funded anyway?

Two schools from here in Hawaii have raised their OWN funds to participate in the parade. Obama's alma Punahou school and I can't remeber the other. Kamehameha perhaps? or Iolani?? No matter. it'll be a joy to watch them.


User currently offlinepropilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 592 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1873 times:

Yea no doubt about the security, I know and heard about it on the news. Over 10,000 security personnel, including civil and military, FBI, CIA, Secret Service, ATF, DEA, US Army, Navy, Air Force, National Guard, you name it, you got it, I mean come on, you've got the entire US Presidential Cabinet + Congress, etc. The entire airspace will be shut down, patrolling with air force fighter planes, armed helicopters, surface to air missiles, weapons of mass destruction lol  etc. The threat can come from anywhere, remember Bush's 2nd inauguration....someone threw an egg at the Presidents limo, the Secret Service just stopped and watched.

User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11463 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

Quoting Airstud (Reply 1):
It makes zero sense to have an "inauguration" ceremony for someone who's already in the office.
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
a second term just doesn't call for the kind of pomp and circumstance that a first one does.

If people are so upset about second inagurals, why is this the first time people are upset about it? I don't remember anyone being upset over Reagan's second, Clinton's second or W second. I mean the whole pomp and circumstance of it. I don't ever remember hearing anyone upset over how much a second one costs and why are we spending so much on a second one until Obama. I do remember not as many people were captivated by Clinton or W second, but nothing like the backlash we see for Obama.



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User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):

Is it he, of the legends, guys?

Quoting Airstud (Reply 1):
No it wouldn't. It would incentivize business to hire yet more illegal immigrants under the table and thus reduce legitimate, if menial, job opportunities for citizens.

You can also hire locals for "black" work, you know... (Yes, I realize, as soon as you are going black, might as well go immigrant). If you play it right, people would get more than minimum wage, and your costs would go down even. VERY common in some industries over here, even if it is not about the "minumum wage" part, more about "I am not paying squat on wage taxes". (While the taxes on employees income are officially paid by the employee, technically it is the employers accounting who handles it. There are tricks ranging from simple underdeclaration of wages paid to an elaborate system of contracts between employee as a person, employer, contractor, employee as a company etc.)

Quoting seb146 (Reply 8):
I do remember not as many people were captivated by Clinton or W second, but nothing like the backlash we see for Obama.

The economy wasnt "bad" back then, you know.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6471 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

Quoting Fabo (Reply 9):
The economy wasnt "bad" back then, you know.

Exactly. The French president (and elected officials in other countries) has reduced his salary by 30%, same for all the ministers. The traditional 14th of July garden party at the Elysée Palace has been scraped since 2009 or thereabout, some are talking about scraping the military parade too (especially since tanks ruin the pavement). Those are needed sacrifices when you raise taxes, close loopholes, etc.



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User currently offlineus330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3866 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
But this is a big, expensive, and time-consuming use of resources.

Relative to what?

I'm going because I live 20 minutes from the national mall, and don't have to mess with public transit.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19275 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1755 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 8):
If people are so upset about second inagurals, why is this the first time people are upset about it?

I just said... I don't care what party. I wasn't happy about W's, either. For Reagan's, I was 6 or so, so I don't suppose I really cared.

You can't seriously be thinking that I --of all people-- am anti-Obama.


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9700 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1754 times:
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Quoting seb146 (Reply 8):
I don't remember anyone being upset over Reagan's second, Clinton's second

Well, I tried to complain about them on A.net, but found that A.net didn't exist yet.

Strange.



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3299 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1748 times:
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Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
I hope the Secret Service doesn't blow up again

Maybe not the best choice of words, huh? Hahahaha.

Are you going to write them a letter if things don't go as planned? If so, post it here!

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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5327 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1695 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 8):
I do remember not as many people were captivated by Clinton or W second, but nothing like the backlash we see for Obama.

You're really going to turn this into a "we're bashing this only because it's Obama" thread. Please.

I personally think the whole inauguration schitck smacks too much of a coronation. The parade, the parties, the swearing in. It's just annoying. Hell, didn't it lead to one presidential death?

Sorry, when Jan 20th, or in this case, the 21st rolls around, There should be a swearing-in, a speech and then, we should get down to the business of running the government. Especially, if it's the second time around.



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User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1681 times:

I won't be watching. Obama generally pisses me off when he speaks.


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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2620 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 12):
You can't seriously be thinking that I --of all people-- am anti-Obama.

A guy can dream...

  



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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24958 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1464 times:
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I'm not American and I think the inaugurations are terrific - a moment of celebration amid the usually acrimonious battles of politics.

They may be the circus part of bread and circuses, but we don't live by bread alone.

I thought this one was terrific, for all sorts of reasons and not least for the President placing the gay rights movement in its proper context.

I especially loved Richard Blanco's poem, which I thought was tremendous, echoing Walt Whitman, and Beyonce's version of the anthem - lip-synced or not, I don't care, I found it quite moving.

Thanks, America.  

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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5327 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1454 times:

I did get to listen to President Obama's speech and a few of the other things going on. The speech was ok, nothing really memorable about it. A little more ideological than I expected, but to tell you the truth, this would be the first one I listened to live since Reagan's second address in 1985. We were forced to listen to it in high school. I try to read them a little later on.

I'm just not an inauguration type of guy.

I guess there is a place for it.



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2716 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1452 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 19):
I guess there is a place for it.

It could have been much more low key IMHO, don't get me wrong, its a tremendous event to celebrate, just not twice with all the hoopla involved, especially for a re-election of a President. At the moment, America has better things to spend its money on I'm sure.



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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1427 times:

Na...I'll be remembering the words of Dr. Martin Luther King in silence as I find myself repeating his famous words..."I have a Dream"...Amen Mr. King!...But the coronation of the second coming of the King Obama?...well..."I too once had a dream"...thanks lots King Obama.

User currently offlinedaedaeg From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 656 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1401 times:

I enjoy all the pomp and circumstance. It's great way to celebrate democracy and showcase the Capitol. I love it. People who don't like it have the right not to watch it at all.


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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12396 posts, RR: 37
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1397 times:

Quoting propilot83 (Reply 7):
The threat can come from anywhere, remember Bush's 2nd inauguration....someone threw an egg at the Presidents limo, the Secret Service just stopped and watched.

That's only because they wanted to do it first. Let's face it, over 95% of the population of DC voted against Bush, so it was hardly surprising.

I'm delighted that Obama was re-elected and I wish him every success over the next four years. Mind you, can't think his foreign policy people will be too happy today; it's a "double whammy" (to quite a British phrase!) ... Cameron giving an in-out vote on the EU and Netanyahu re-elected in Israel (and will probably even be more hardline than before, due to the need to accommodate even more right wing parties).


User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1329 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1397 times:

Quoting daedaeg (Reply 22):
People who don't like it have the right not to watch it at all.

  

I live in Capitol Hill within a short walk of the Capitol, yet I chose to stay home and enjoy a day off with the hubby. I do think that the entire ceremony is a bit too much pomp and bling of my taste but I don't think the President has much to say about it. The committees organizing the events have been doing so for months, meaning that the event was going to take place regardless of who won the elections. Besides, an Inauguration Committee did raise private funds for some of the balls and celebrations so it wasn't all public funds paying for it.

Then again, I do understand that some people will always complain about them anyway simply because, inevitably, the President will always belong to someone's opposing party.

Quoting mariner (Reply 18):
I thought this one was terrific, for all sorts of reasons and not least for the President placing the gay rights movement in its proper context.

  


User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

Great post Charles 79.

It's also Tradition.

[In someone elses words]: Ever since George Washington's first inaugural in 1789, the peaceful transition from his presidency to the presidency of John Adams established a tradition that continues into the 21st century.


I watched it all. I love parades and etc. and it was nice to see two Hawaii bands perform. (They raised there own money to come, none of it was government sponsored by the way). Nice to see Obama and Biden both stand for the entire parade watching all those bands and floats to the bitter end then having to get ready for the Inaugural ball. (Cut down to only two this time, people, from "ten" four years ago): the Commander in chiefs ball, and the Inaugural ball.

After months of campaigning, a lot of hard work from volunteers and organizers of both parties, and lot s of nail biting, an Inauguration celebration is much deserved for the incoming elected and supporters. Some will always feel otherwise.

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 20):
It could have been much more low key IMHO, don't get me wrong, its a tremendous event to celebrate, just not twice with all the hoopla involved, especially for a re-election of a President. At the moment, America has better things to spend its money on I'm sure.

There will always be something to spend the money on. Cant get away from that fact.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10862 posts, RR: 38
Reply 26, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1335 times:

I did not watch the ceremony livecast... this is rather revealing.
This second oath flub is less obvious than during the first inaugural but it is there.

Not sure if they made him repeat the oath in private this time.

President Barack Obama Flubs Oath Of Office…AGAIN!

Are you suddenly suffering from a case of deja vu? We don’t blame you because it was only four years ago when President Obama flubbed the famous Oath of Office during his first inauguration.
...
http://amp.cbslocal.com/2013/01/22/p...-obama-flubs-oath-of-office-again/

    



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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24958 posts, RR: 85
Reply 27, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1292 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 26):
Not sure if they made him repeat the oath in private this time.

The President had already taken the oath of office - in private - on the 20th, as required:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/p...n-4-times-171757784--election.html

"Obama first two-term president to take oath of office four times

President Barack Obama was officially sworn in for a second term on Sunday, taking the oath of office in a short ceremony in the Blue Room of the White House. Chief Justice John Roberts administered the Constitutionally-required oath."


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10862 posts, RR: 38
Reply 28, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

Barack Obama provides landing pad for fly
Not even the Secret Service could keep the fly away from Barack Obama's furrowed brow.

The buzzing insect stole the show as the President announced two new members of his second administration, cutting wild loops around the leader of the free world before landing squarely on his forehead.

read more with pictures and videos
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-provides-landing-pad-for-fly.html

What is with flies landing on Obama's face, especially at press conferences?

      



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39659 posts, RR: 75
Reply 29, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 15):
Hell, didn't it lead to one presidential death?


Yes. President Harrison gave the longest acceptance speech (2 hours) in which he caught pneumonia and died 32 days after taking the oath of office.

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 21):
...I'll be remembering the words of Dr. Martin Luther King in silence as I find myself repeating his famous words..."I have a Dream"...Amen Mr. King!...But the coronation of the second coming of the King Obama?...well..."I too once had a dream"...thanks lots King Obama.



Here is a very interesting interview with Martin Luther King's niece commenting on this very matter. None of the major news outlets picked this story up because it doesn't suit their revisionist history and pro-Obama agenda.

http://www.newsmax.com/US/alveda-kin.../id/472237?s=al&promo_code=121D7-1

Martin Luther King's neice has far more credibility than any talking head at MSNBC, CNN, BBC or any other Probama 'news' outlet when it comes to her uncle.

Quoting daedaeg (Reply 22):
People who don't like it have the right not to watch it at all.


  
It's not my thing either, even if my candidate wins. I voted for Clinton both time but never watch the Inaugurations. I don't like Washington DC and I don't like politicians in general and those Inaugurations is a celebration of that.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 28):
What is with flies landing on Obama's face, especially at press conferences?


Well you know what flies like to cling too and Obama spews a lot of if from his mouth.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 8):
why is this the first time people are upset about it? I don't remember anyone being upset over Reagan's second,


Al Gore hadn't invented the Internet yet.
Also I do remember people being upset about Reagan winning a 2nd. term. The difference was that people were more civilized back then and people were allowed to have a different opinion without being ganged up on, insulted, bullied, disrespected and attacked like today.

Speaking of Reagan.....



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 26):
President Barack Obama Flubs Oath Of Office…AGAIN!


Well of course. Anything involving a Christian Bible, American traditions and taking oaths make Barack Hussein Obama nervous and uncomfortable.

[Edited 2013-01-25 04:29:23]


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User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1214 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 29):
The difference was that people were more civilized back then and people were allowed to have a different opinion without being ganged up on and insulted and disrespected like today.

nah, that's not it. Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet,, so we just didn't realize people weren't as civilized as we thought.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 29):
Speaking of Reagan.....


a. Reagan had nothing to do with the release. They were released the same time Regan took the oath on January 20, 1981.

b. Is that what you're doing if I'm understanding it correctly? Linking somehow the deaths of 23 mixed nationality hostages who worked in Algeria at their own free will at a plant run jointly run by BP (British Petroleum), Norway's Statoil and Algeria's state-owned oil company on President Obama? Whatstha connection there besides bitterment over our Presidents decisive re election and inauguration.


Some of you all sound like my crazy 70 yr old father, yes, the Tea Partier who I can't stand to listen to. I can't wait until he gets old enough and crazy enough to be put in a home. I think his mind is fast approaching the point of no return with his delusional political rants and raves.

Tea Partiers just seem to use wrong and twisted facts to suit their own agenda.


User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 31, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1210 times:

Funny how anti-Obama conservatives love to claim Martin Luther King Jr. is a modern day conservative when he supported civil rights for all people as well supported striking sanitary workers and opposed the Vietnam War. These are the same people who called MLK in his day a communist and a Soviet infiltrator. I don't think Martin Luther King Jr. would support restrictive voter ID, waiting for 8 hours in Florida to vote because Florida's governor wants to prevent minorities from voting, support unlimited gun rights, suppression of labor unions like Wisconsin's governor and the gerrymandering of districts so minorities will never be represented. revisionist history at its best.

Conservatives had Obama coming in their rear view mirror and they don't need him to annihilate the Republican Party they are doing it to themselves.



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User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1340 posts, RR: 3
Reply 32, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

Quoting Aeri28 (Reply 30):

Some of you all sound like my crazy 70 yr old father, yes, the Tea Partier who I can't stand to listen to. I can't wait until he gets old enough and crazy enough to be put in a home. I think his mind is fast approaching the point of no return with his delusional political rants and raves.

Maybe, but he's your dad! My folks have some goofy opinions about stuff too, but I wouldn't want to see them in a home over it.

Quoting Aeri28 (Reply 30):
Tea Partiers just seem to use wrong and twisted facts to suit their own agenda.

This, you are 100% correct about. There are times when I wonder if they are really a party, or just the Bumper Sticker lobby in disguise...



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39659 posts, RR: 75
Reply 33, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1202 times:

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 32):
Maybe, but he's your dad! My folks have some goofy opinions about stuff too, but I wouldn't want to see them in a home over it.



Agreed. That just goes to show the mentality of some of those on the far left. Their lack of respect for human life of those they disagree with is shameful. Wanting to see their own parent put away because they don't agree with them is sick!
That is the same mentality of those fundamentalist extremist Muslims that kill there own children for not following their religion. Now I see why many leftist are so defensive of those Islamist.

Quoting Aeri28 (Reply 30):
Tea Partiers just


  
Where are you getting this Tea Party nonsense from? For the millionth time, I'm not a Tea Partier. Not everyone who disagrees with Obama is a Tea Partier. There are more than 2 ideologies out there.

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 31):



Liberals of today can't claim Martin Luther King either. I seriously doubt the Rev. Martin Luther King would have defended Sandra Fluke, gay marriage as well as the drone attacks. Not to mention Obama's support for toppling Gaddafi in Libya. Who were the innocent people attacked and killed by those 'freedom fighters'? I rest my case.
Not to mention, it was Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat that launched full-scale war in Vietnam. George Romney (Republican) was an opponent of the Vietnam War. There is plenty of blame to go around both parties on the Vietnam war.
I find it interesting that most of Martin Luther King's relatives are still alive and I don't see them out there supporting all of these modern day 'progressive' issues of today.
I'll listen to his niece Alveda King instead.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10862 posts, RR: 38
Reply 34, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 29):
Al Gore hadn't invented the Internet yet.

Ha Ha Good one!!

Quoting Superfly (Reply 29):

Well of course. Anything involving a Christian Bible, American traditions and taking oaths make Barack Hussein Obama nervous and uncomfortable.

Yes. It shows. Very nervous and uncomfortable indeed.

I have watched many US Presidents inaugurations and even attended one (President Carter) up and close at the Capitol in person. I was also invited to private events for that inauguration and got to personally meet the whole family.
I can't remember any such flubs before and then he did it two times.

hmmm...

 Wow!



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39659 posts, RR: 75
Reply 35, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 34):
Ha Ha Good one!!



 
Well, the Internet wasn't around, that's for sure.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 34):
Yes. It shows. Very nervous and uncomfortable indeed.


If I had lied to the people of Indonesia or Kenya and rose to the level of the highest office there, I'd be a bit nervous faking a swearing too.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 34):
I have watched many US Presidents inaugurations and even attended one (President Carter) up and close at the Capitol in person. I was also invited to private events for that inauguration and got to personally meet the whole family.
I can't remember any such flubs before and then he did it two times.



Nice!
That was the very first inauguration I can remember. I was 3 & a half years old. Despite his failures and the timing of his Presidency, he is a decent man and probably the most honest man to reside in the White House. I think the comparisons of Obama to him is an insult to Carter.
Jimmy Carter is a Baptist and Sunday school teacher from the United States that served our country in World War 2. He has no hangups about the United States Christian heritage unlike Barack Hussein Obama that thinks otherwise.



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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24958 posts, RR: 85
Reply 36, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1166 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 29):
Well of course. Anything involving a Christian Bible, American traditions and taking oaths make Barack Hussein Obama nervous and uncomfortable.
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 34):
Yes. It shows. Very nervous and uncomfortable indeed.

Hmmm? It was the Chief Justice who started the flub at the first Obama swearing-in by feeding the wrong line to the President.   

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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39659 posts, RR: 75
Reply 37, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1164 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 36):
Hmmm? It was the Chief Justice who started the flub at the first Obama swearing-in by feeding the wrong line to the President.



The cue-card was wrong......err......John Roberts read the line wrong. I remember that and I knew then that he got it wrong. John Roberts was appointed by President George W Bush so Obama's first swearing in flub was Bush's fault....



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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24958 posts, RR: 85
Reply 38, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1159 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 37):
John Roberts was appointed by President George W Bush so Obama's first swearing in flub was Bush's fault....

Nobody's perfect.

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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 39, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1115 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 29):
Martin Luther King's neice has far more credibility than any talking head at MSNBC, CNN, BBC or any other Probama 'news' outlet when it comes to her uncle


Interesting read/ video...thanks!. By the way, just read Egypt's Leader, Marci is to receive 200 US tanks and 12 F-16's from the Obama administration. Isn't the Muslim Brotherhood running Egypt at this time and having been re elected a second term, now official, I feel this King Obama is going to run away the US. I thought his hand was on Bibles swearing to uphold the US Constitution or was it "the Constitution"...a more vague version?...I don't get it...   


User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11463 posts, RR: 15
Reply 40, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1111 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 35):
He has no hangups about the United States Christian heritage unlike Barack Hussein Obama that thinks otherwise.

How so?

Carter: let every American worship as they please.
Obama: let every American worship as they please.

I fail to see the difference.

Oh, wait... Obama is not towing the right-wing line that the United States is a Christian nation because the European and English word "God" is used in the Constitution.



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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5327 posts, RR: 14
Reply 41, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1107 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 40):
How so?

Carter: let every American worship as they please.
Obama: let every American worship as they please.

I fail to see the difference.

How does that match up with his HHS regulations?



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8162 posts, RR: 8
Reply 42, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1044 times:

Quoting Airstud (Reply 1):
No it wouldn't. It would incentivize business to hire yet more illegal immigrants under the table and thus reduce legitimate, if menial, job opportunities for citizens.

And it would reduce the federal funds going out to pay for various benefits - corporate welfare by any other name.

We need to have a minimum wage that is above the poverty level except for apprenticeship programs where the apprentice starts during traditional high school years. Australia has that type of program and there is traditionally a long list of applicants for the various positions at Qantas Engineering Apprenticeship programs.

Quoting Airstud (Reply 1):
It makes zero sense to have an "inauguration" ceremony for someone who's already in the office.

The inauguration is a 4 year tradition and a lot of those involved have worked for years to be a part of the day. Look at all the kids from various high school bands as one example. They spend years raising funds without knowing who is going to end up running, much less winning the election. It is simply a part of the American political process.


User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5327 posts, RR: 14
Reply 43, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1024 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 42):
It is simply a part of the American political process.

I think it's more political tradition than political process.

I'm not sure exactly how many presidents have been sworn in before the actaully ceremony, but I read that Reagan's second and Obama's second were both in private (or as private as can be) and before the ceremonial one in public.



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8162 posts, RR: 8
Reply 44, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 989 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 43):
I think it's more political tradition than political process.

More like both when you get down to it.


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