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110+ Vehicle Blizzard Crashes In Cincinnati  
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7982 posts, RR: 19
Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1216 times:

A freak snowstorm blew through my hometown today causing two separate chain-reaction crashes on Interstate 75 near the Middletown Exit and Interstate 275 between Hamilton and Colerain....One person sadly lost her life, but it was absolutely nuts out there acc. to my contacts back home.


Pictures and news from WCPO:

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/traffic/VIDE...hat-involved-more-than-70-vehicles

Any weather buffs wanna clue me in on what happened here? It apparently came out of nowhere and it was very brief white-out conditions but left about 1in of accumulation.


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User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2732 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1120 times:

What happened? People don't adapt their driving to weather conditions and don't leave any stopping distance in front of them. As soon as someone breaks or stops, voila.


When all's said and done, there'll be more said than done.
User currently onlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7853 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1104 times:

Just wondering do the majority of people in snowbelt states change over to full winter tyres or use the rather useless all seasons or stick to summer tyres. Do trucks also change to winter tyres?

User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1048 times:

I was involved in one of those type situations several years ago near Dallas.

Crossing the Lake Ray Hubbard Bridge on I-30, when I got to Rockwall, it was white-out blizzard conditions. There wasn't even any snow falling on the Dallas and Rowlett parts of the bridge a mile back.

I got off the freeway quickly at the first exit, but there were dozens of wrecks occuring on the freeway. Not even a quarter inch of snow stuck that day, and it was all gone an hour later.

The first wrecks occurred in the white-out where drivers who did not slow down ran into those who did. And more people continued to cross the bridge at 65-70 mph to run into the extending carnage.

Wasn't as bad as the one in Cleveland - but whenever people suddenly slow down on a freeway, and the folks behind have no visibility - there will be wrecks like this.


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10818 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1038 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 3):
and the folks behind have no visibility - there will be wrecks like this.

If the "folks behind" have no sufficient visibility, they surely are damn too fast.
We have a lot of snow in Frankfurt since a few days and every night more comes to it. The nearest Autobahn is limited to 100 km/h and when I drove it on saturday evening it was freezing and snowing, and the road surface wet (with a lot of salt on it). I was going at 90-100 and I still had idiots who closed in to less than 10 m behind me, or others passing me with 150! There was even a truck who overtook me with 100 km/h under these conditions (general truck speed limit is 80 even on a perfect day). There are too many idiots around so crashes like this gig one in Cinncinnati will happen over and over again.


User currently offlinecptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

Although I've never been involved in a crash like this I've seen the results of many during my 4-decade stay in Michigan. Obviously people are overdriving the vehicle's (and their own personal) capabilities in such conditions.

But I am curious (maybe a police officer here on site could answer); In such a situation there has to be a police report but would a citation be written for each and every envolved driver (such as "failure to maintain control" or "excessive speed")?

regards...jack



all best; jack
User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4617 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1026 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter):
Any weather buffs wanna clue me in on what happened here? It apparently came out of nowhere and it was very brief white-out conditions but left about 1in of accumulation.

Probably just a passing snow squall with the cold air getting established. Further north closer to the lakes you see this all the time just outside the main snow belts. Quick "down pour" of snow and then sun. The title of this thread is completely off basis using the word "Blizzard" since that wasn't even the case here. A short white out situation is not a blizzard - that is 3 hours or more of 35+ mph sustained winds with visibilities under a quarter of a mile caused by falling/pre-existing snow cover.

This is just a case of people being stupid and not adjusting to conditions.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 2):
Just wondering do the majority of people in snowbelt states change over to full winter tyres or use the rather useless all seasons or stick to summer tyres. Do trucks also change to winter tyres?

Some may, but it has really been hit or miss for years. Some areas haven't seen anywhere near the type of snowfalls they were use to.


User currently onlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7853 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1018 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 6):

Some may, but it has really been hit or miss for years. Some areas haven't seen anywhere near the type of snowfalls they were use to.

Still gets cold right, have you ever felt the rubber on a summer tyre in temps below 10 degrees, it's solid as a rock, no way are they going to provide anything but an unsafe ride. For some reason people think winter tyres are only for snow and ice, they're not they are for all winter conditions which includes cold.


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