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Have You Been Affected By Suicide?  
User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4070 times:
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I came across this news item which reports the fact that suicide rates in the UK rose significantly in 2011.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21141815

It states that the suicide rate was highest for males between the ages of 30 and 44. Without elaborating on how or why, I am sorry to say that this was nearly me too. Only after being lucky enough to recover fully did I start reading seriously around the subject, and I was shocked to see that the highest risk profile was exactly my demographic.

I had a colleague and good friend some years ago who took his own life after battling for years with depression, and although we always knew he struggled it was still an immense shock when it happened. Unfortunately though, when you are that unwell you simply do not think of how awful it will be for others, or how wrong a step it might be to take. Indeed, I suppose the only way I can describe it is that in your very worst state it can seem like the only option, however ridiculous that conclusion might be when rationally analysed. I think that what scares me most is the thought that one day you might find yourself in that state again if events spiral out of control, and you might not survive if there is a next time. Thus, the key is to 'nip things in the bud' and try at all costs not to get to point of crashing and burning. It's a tricky thing to do, because the desire to do that can result in over-analysis of everyday pressures, or overreaction from those close to you when you might not be 100%.

I know that some people have a very dispassionate approach to the subject - 'the coward's way out' is a very well-worn adage. From experience I know that people can take it as a personal betrayal, at least until the shock wears off. In some ways I suppose it is indeed that, but then the motives can be extremely complex and difficult if not impossible for the observer to understand. I do, however, think it is essential to try to better understand rather than simply condemn.

So, I ask - have you been directly affected by suicide? How have you helped others affected by it? What have you learnt from your experiences? What are the main drivers for the statistics we read?


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User currently online4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3024 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4059 times:

The "coward's way out" line bothers me. I usually explain it that people who take their own life are no more of a coward than someone who drowns after a ship sinking. "Why didn't they keep treading water? What a coward!" Well, that person did fight until they could keep themselves above water no more. They are exhausted from the battle, and are defeated. Same with suicide. The fight has rendered them incapable of continuing the battle.
My experience?
My Best Friend Killed Herself Today.



Ghosts appear and fade away.....................
User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 1):
The "coward's way out" line bothers me.

It does with me as well. I think it diminishes the real problems that the person that took their own life had. And rather naively assumes that if that person would simply think about how sad their passing would make others they would find the will to live. Either way it ignores the problems facing people who decide to take their own life. Those of us who have never been to that point simply cannot understand it.


I had a good friend of mine from high school kill himself in his first semester of college (he was a year behind me). He was a likeable funny kid, though was always a little odd and off. But even then I think I even knew that he was troubled inside, there were random moments here and there where it was pretty obvious he wasn't happy. I really do think that in the end being pushed out of the house by his mom and step dad and not really being recognized by his father hurt a lot. Plus being at college way far away from his close friends hurt a lot too. It still saddens me to think about it more than a decade later and I still think fondly of him. His closest friend recently had a son and named his son after him.

But I don't judge him or call him a coward for his choice. In retrospect I can see the anguish he was in, and at times still feel like an asshole for pushing him away at times when he just wanted to hang out. But I don't really know, nor do I really want to, the pain he was going through.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4029 times:
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Quoting 4holer (Reply 1):
My experience?
My Best Friend Killed Herself Today.

Wow.

Have you managed to make any sense of that since it happened? I see it was a while back now.

I was struck by what you said here:

Quote:

If you have a friend, relative, whatever, and you feel as if they may be in need of an ear, a hand to hold, a hug, or a trip out of town. DO IT! Because you may make a difference.

I think that advice is great.



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User currently offlineswissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4015 times:

yep... my cousin a few years ago.

His life was a sad story, drugs for most of the part, ruined his body and by the time he got clean it was to late. Had cancer without hope so he went to Exit and ended it a day after x-mas in 07... RIP Martin


User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3994 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 1):
The "coward's way out" line bothers me

Me too. Cowardness and suicide should never be mentioned in the same line. I know some very brave people who took their own lives.

I have lost one of my buddies in the military to suicide. Without getting into details, he was one of the bravest Soldiers i've ever had the honor of serving with. Our unit was hit hard during our tour in Iraq. This particular Soldier had seen a lot of combat and was directly affected by an IED. Additionally, his spouse was not failthful while he was deployed and ultimately his marriage ended in a divorce. After we returned from Iraq he was diagnoseed with severe PTSD and TBI. He was treated by behavioral health specialists. Pills, counselings and the whole nine yards. After he got out of the military, he struggled with finding a good job. He fought his inner demons day in and day out. Finally, when he couldn't deal with it anymore and took his own life.

It was a combination of: PTSD + Depression + family problems (divorce) + post military adjustment (job).

Unfortunately, there are too many military veterans in the same boat. The Army announced that we lost more Soldiers to suicide in 2012 than we did in combat in Afghanistan.


User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5628 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3925 times:

I had a lady friend that took her own life three years ago, it was a shocking loss, I had no real idea that she was near such a state though I did know she was depressed sometimes and suffered from depression. Her life was not what she wanted it to be, she was lonely and sad even though she was smart, good looking, had a great job, a house that she was remodeling, and had many friends and a good family. I have often enough thought about if I could have made a difference. though quite frankly what she wanted from me would have been detrimental in my personal life. When she took her her life it left me wondering forever if my actions had anything to do with it or if I could have changed anything and helped her. Ultimately I have realized that we all live our own life and deal with our own demons and can't protect others from, or be responsible for, theirs.

I still am saddened by this.

Tugg



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3920 times:
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Thanks for all your replies so far. It is reassuring to see that you have all treated the subject with a good degree of sensitivity, and without judgement.

Quoting tugger (Reply 6):
I have often enough thought about if I could have made a difference. though quite frankly what she wanted from me would have been detrimental in my personal life. When she took her her life it left me wondering forever if my actions had anything to do with it or if I could have changed anything and helped her. Ultimately I have realized that we all live our own life and deal with our own demons and can't protect others from, or be responsible for, theirs.

At the end of the day, none of us can read minds. Often we have no way of really knowing how close to the edge someone might be. A general effort to treat people sensitively is probably the best thing we can do, but you can't sacrifice yourself just to try and make someone happy beyond the feelings that you have for them.



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User currently offlinepropilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 602 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3910 times:

Listen folks, I was struck with a major depression in November 2007 after several things changed in my life, first of all it was my fathers upcoming one year anniversary of his death from a massive heart attack in his sleep, I had a new mean rebellious manager at work, I was messing around with this girl at work who was a loser (nothing serious, no sex, Im still chaste thank God), and I moved from my old apartment to a new one with my mom and had a hard time adjusting to the new environment, so all these things took effect as the onset of my depression. Unfortunately I began feeling suicidal, I felt there was no hope left but to just die with overdosing on Tylenol pills, and even though I was feeling so depressed, angry, and wanted to kill myself, I just could not do it, I did not have the guts to pull the plug on my heart, I was too afraid. But anyway, eventually I called 9-11 and kept on hanging up and stuff, and eventually I told them that I was feeling suicidal and they checked me in a psychiatric hospital for an evaluation. Let me tell you, when you feel so depressed and has been diagnosed with a a major depression and you still dont know it yet quite well, you feel that not even a pill can help and you lost all patience. But for me, they would not release me, so I began taking Paroxetine at 10mg, then 20mg, then maxed out at 40mg, and I gotta tell you, after three days, they released me and I began feeling side effects of anxiety and hypertension due to the normal side effects of Paxil until your body adjusts to it. I have to tell you, within 2-3 weeks I began feeling a lot better, I slept easily, I had good nutrition, no more feeling depressed with anxiety and fear, it really worked really good. I had also learned that there was a chemical imbalance in my brain, less serotonin produced causes major depression like cannot sleep comfortably at night, being lazy and isolated, feeling worthless and suicidal. So the Paxil really helped thank God, and after only a month or so, I got a nice full time job, and life became so great, that I was feeling the bliss of my life. To those who feel suicidal and feel embarrassed about it or shy, its okay, dont be, because I felt shy and embarrassed too, but what can you do you know, I mean the benefits out weigh the risk, so dont procrastinate, dont let the situation get worse, there is help out there, because killing yourself will make you end in the blazing fire of hell, dont let that happen, everyone knows suicide is a great sin. I hope sharing my story helps those who feel suicidal or those who were in my footsteps. Were only human, so take advantage of what is good, and get back up in life, with Faith, medicine, and therapy, things will come back together, far better than ever before. Peace!!

User currently offlinedarthluke12694 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
Unfortunately though, when you are that unwell you simply do not think of how awful it will be for others, or how wrong a step it might be to take.

That's one of the main reasons why I don't commit suicide. I'd hate to see what it would do to my parents. I mean I'm not majorly depressed or anything, I just get into these moods where I get depressed. Wake up the next day I'm fine. I could never kill myself, but sometimes I do wish I would die in an accident (car, freak accident, etc.).

Sometimes I get into the these moods for no reasons, and sometimes there are reasons (won't get into here). However, as one person said above, moving away to college does have an affect, it's part of what I'm going through now.

I refuse to go to the doctor and get checked out. I know I might want to die at some points, but I feel as if I'm not a threat to myself. So I don't go to the doctor. Plus I don't want to be put on medicine.


User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3850 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 5):
Me too. Cowardness and suicide should never be mentioned in the same line. I know some very brave people who took their own lives.

I have lost one of my buddies in the military to suicide. Without getting into details, he was one of the bravest Soldiers i've ever had the honor of serving with. Our unit was hit hard during our tour in Iraq. This particular Soldier had seen a lot of combat and was directly affected by an IED. Additionally, his spouse was not failthful while he was deployed and ultimately his marriage ended in a divorce. After we returned from Iraq he was diagnoseed with severe PTSD and TBI. He was treated by behavioral health specialists. Pills, counselings and the whole nine yards. After he got out of the military, he struggled with finding a good job. He fought his inner demons day in and day out. Finally, when he couldn't deal with it anymore and took his own life.

It was a combination of: PTSD + Depression + family problems (divorce) + post military adjustment (job).

Unfortunately, there are too many military veterans in the same boat. The Army announced that we lost more Soldiers to suicide in 2012 than we did in combat in Afghanistan.

I do have a friend who committed suicide thanksgiving 2004. He in my opinion had everything to live for..He had things I will most likely never have.. He had a beautiful wife a very young son and twins on the way and a very good job. But in his past he went through a bad divorce. The night he took his life he got in an arguement with his new wife she threatened to take the son and go back to her home country (Columbia) he locked himself in their bedroom and he was an avid gun collector took one of his pistols and blew his brains out. So my opinion is that it was an impulse thing I think if he hadn't been drinking and really thought it out after all suicide is kinda permanent. I don't think he would have done it. But he did and cannot take it back...So now 3 kids are without a father and a wife is without a husband. So in that sense yes its selfish.. But most people who do it are not in their right mind at the time they do it anyway. At least in my opinion. But what I was going to say is that our military and that story you just outlined I can very much understand why they get to the point they do..Very sad indeed...

[Edited 2013-01-22 17:48:38]


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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6688 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3826 times:

In my late teens I fell in love with that crazy girl and it was the ride of my life, good, bad and worse.

As a kid I'd already thought about the best suicide option and determined it was jumping from high ground or higher. Nowadays I jump from planes but with a way to stop the fall !

Anyway, one evening I was at the girl's 5th floor apartment (her parents in vacation), she had invited me so I was expecting a romantic diner, instead it was a gang bang... I went to the balcony to escape the situation, and once there I considered jumping, I almost went over, but I managed to regain some senses and ran away instead.

After that our sick relationship continued for some time, it even got worse, but I had determined that suicide would never be an option for me and I'm sticking with it (unless terminally ill or something similar, in cases like this it's not really suicide to me).



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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6296 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3823 times:

I had a friend many years ago who had pretty much lost the use of his lungs and his heart was not far behind. There was no way he would ever be on a list and would not have been able to afford a transplant anyway. He put a .38 against his temple one night. I wished at the time that I had been able to stop him but now I know it was probably his best option. I still miss him though.


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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8946 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3817 times:

Quoting darthluke12694 (Reply 9):
That's one of the main reasons why I don't commit suicide. I'd hate to see what it would do to my parents

I cannot offer you advice, I am not qualified to do so. I can tell you as a parent who dearly loves his children, grandchildren and who worries and prays for his children and grandchildren everyday that it would ruin my life if I lost one of them. I would ask you to seek help for yourself.



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User currently offlineaf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2692 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3794 times:

One of my friends took a bunch of Tylenol pills to get over a breakup back in the summer of 2011. I didn't really know him back then, and I found this out a long time later. Luckily he did survive. He also took some pills to keep himself awake (forgot what the pills are called). He didn't get any sleep for a week or more, and was definitely slowly killing himself, but he survived this as well. To be honest he can be quite a jerk some days, but at the end of the day we're like brothers.

I can get very depressed at times, and the thought of suicide has been in my mind from time to time. Some days I feel useless and unloved. However I don't think I could ever do it. I just tell myself to carry on. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, and any problem I do have will sooner or later pass.



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User currently offlineqantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5859 posts, RR: 40
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3776 times:

My father tried about 7 times in the late 80s and finally took his own life in 87. I don't feel he was a coward, I actually feel he was incredibly strong to have survived as far as he did. He had major mental health issues and back then the support in Australia was basically zilch. He did what he did and we respect him for that.

Every situation is different and sitting in the comfort of your living room and passing judgement is incredibly insensitive.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6240 posts, RR: 31
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3754 times:
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I have doubts about sharing this, but in the interest that someone may read this and change his mind, I´ll take the plunge.

Between 2005 and 2008 I had a terrible time. So in september 2008 I slashed the wrist of my right hand. I lost 2.5 liters of blood. The reason I survived, was because in the process of slashing my right wrist, I cut all the tendons too, so that hand became unusable and I was unable to slash my left hand wrist. I would surely have died, otherwise.

My reasons? Well, I was very depressed. Clinically depressed. I had this overwhelming emotional pain and tiredness that I suppose few people have experienced, otherwise we wouldn´t get the comments about suicide being "selfish" , "easy way out", "the cowardly way out" etc. Not saying these has been said here, but I´ve heard them. The pain of depression is so much, that you really can´t see a way out. You just want a way out of that darkness, out of that pain, out of the fatigue that the basic daily chores of life impose on you.

I´m not saying life is like that. But that was the way I saw it back then. And that is the way clinical depression makes you see things.

Am I glad I did not die? Sure. I love my life now. With all its challenges and all of its difficulties. But it took a few years of therapy, some medication (anti-depressants are not really the cure it all) I´ve learned to cope, I´ve learned to understand I´m not perfect, and I´ve learned to understand that I have a right to get angry, to get sad, to tell people to fuck off and to be happy.

The only advice I can give someone out there who feels ending it all is the only alternative, is to seek help. Have faith that there is so much more to life than the current darkness you feel you are surrounded by. Do not feel stupid, do not feel embarrased, and yes, do not feel emasculated. A lot of people, more than you imagine, care and love you, and since loving someone is a two way street, you will find non-judgemental people more than willing to help you.

Depression is serious business. Last time I checked, 15% of clinically depressed people off themselves. Life is not easy, but it´s not the hell people sometimes imagine it is.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7654 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3749 times:

A buddy of mine killed himself back in August, on the first day of classes, right after his girlfriend returned to Japan...

I myself have had a LOT of depression and was contemplating suicide a few years back...but after my buddy did it in August, I immediately thought to myself "This is NO way to go at all."

I feel like, after reading the works of Adam Darski, that there's more to life than people can imagine, and it's our own global-citizen duty to figure out what that is through life and simply make yourself better in the process...that's my advice for anyone ever contemplating this....myself, I find that there's more out there and I need to escape from the confines that are keeping me back. That does NOT mean killing yourself---that puts you in another prison- death.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3714 times:
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Quoting af773atmsp (Reply 14):
and the thought of suicide has been in my mind from time to time. Some days I feel useless and unloved. However I don't think I could ever do it.

I used to think the same, then a point came where it got far worse.

Quoting af773atmsp (Reply 14):
any problem I do have will sooner or later pass.

This is key advice - you HAVE to tell yourself it will pass.



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User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

The worst thing for me is "suicide is selfish. What about the people who have to deal with their loss?"

Okay, maybe it is hard to deal with somebody dying, but why should they keep themselves alive to please somebody else?

I have real sympathy for people who feel it's their only way out. It's not cowardly at all.


User currently offlineidealstandard From France, joined Apr 2009, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3669 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 1):

That's a very good way to put it. Agree 100%.


User currently online4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3024 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3651 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 3):
Have you managed to make any sense of that since it happened? I see it was a while back now.

No, there's no sense to it still. And I've had a long road recovering from that day. I think of her every day, and what she could have done with her life. Just a huge void where a shining light should be, so tragic.

I'll say again... If you ever are considering taking your own life, you simply can't. You cannot do that to the people who love you. You need to leave that path and do something else drastic: call for help. A friend, family member, or 911. You need to step out of that canyon and the hardest step is that first uphill stride out. But it's worth it. Do it.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3565 times:
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Quoting 4holer (Reply 21):
I'll say again... If you ever are considering taking your own life, you simply can't

The problem is that this relies on the capacity for rational thought, at least on a basic level. Sometimes that can be totally absent, and those are the times where it is desperately needed. As I said before, I think the most important thing is to recognise signs of deterioration early and deal with them.

I'm genuinely sorry to hear that it still hurts so much after all this time.



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User currently offlineAF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

I've had a lucky life and have never been even close to this. I've been lightly depressed from time to time and when that drepression lasts for long it sure becomes difficult to face life day after day, but it's never come to a very bad point.

However, a friend of a friend, which I knew because he made a lot of videos on Youtube (they were blogs, which allowed to connect with the person, hence why I feel this person was "close" to me) did kill himself.

What surprised and scared me most is how bloody surprising the news of him taking his own life was to me and everyone who knew him.

He had gone through a bad divorce a year or two before, but seemed like he had taken the right path back to a healthy life. He had two kids, a new girlfriend which was his first love (he had feelings for her before marrying his wife) and everything seemed fine. He had taken the time to go to the US for a good prolongated vacation in sunny Florida, riding motorcycles and drinking mojitos on the beach.

And then one day, when he was back in the UK where he lived, he lit fire to his own house and took his own life that way. There were no alerts. No-one felt like he was depressed, he seemed to be on the right path to happiness again but still, he lit his house on fire and died there alone.

There are not further details (as in, I don't know if he was under the influence when it happened) but the firemen confirmed it was a suicide and not an accidental fire.

So that's my experience with suicide - what I remember from it is that yes, if someone looks like they need a helpful hand, you shouldn't wait, you should give it right away. And this guy had all the help he needed for a while and seemed to really be fine. But sometimes, there's just strictly no alert. Everything seems fine and BAHM, it happens. I don't really know what to think of it but maybe some of you do.

It's an interesting topic this, so thanks for sharing.



Cheers
User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3541 times:

At 14, my best friend hung himself. No note, no nothing, just up and hung himself. 40 years later, his mother still grieves hard. To this day, we still have unanswered questions. Why??


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25 gift4tbone : Some of you here seem to have been personally affected by suicidal thoughts as an adult, and seem upset at referring to suicide as a selfish act. I ha
26 RussianJet : Thanks for sharing your insight - it is very valuable and greatly appreciated. It is, I would admit, an inherently selfish act. However, in many case
27 raffik : My neighbour and friend jumped infront of a train, she was at the time mid twenties and was suffering a mental disorder. She had stopped taking her me
28 gift4tbone : Thanks for saying that. It is irrational to have those thoughts i guess. Reading some of yours and others thoughts in this thread, has given me a lit
29 RussianJet : That I can certainly believe. To be honest, I will have to live with the severe guilt of putting my family through some very traumatic times (twice)
30 gift4tbone : That is really good to hear. Thinking about what you've said. I really hope nothing I have said has added to those negative emotions. It was meant mo
31 RussianJet : Not at all. It all helps really, and I'm fairly realistic about things. It's what I started the discussion for - to see other dimensions and share ex
32 gift4tbone : This is so true. The first few months I was so sensitive to EVERY SINGLE comment made. I have learned to dismiss them. But any of the specific ones,
33 Post contains images RussianJet : Glad to hear it.
34 AeroWesty : A good friend of mine used to volunteer at a suicide hotline. She said that the staffers were trained to ask a point-blank question early on in the c
35 Post contains links and images Superfly : Wasn't sure if I was going to reply to this thread or not. Just two weeks ago, one of my best friends and former roommate in San Francisco committed s
36 EY460 : I am now 36 and I've been suffering from severe depression since I can remember it. I've tried tons of different medication, therapy and so on but not
37 DocLightning : My 21-yo nephew, struggled with depression and narcotic addiction and eventually wound up jumping off the 6th floor of a parking structure. The fact t
38 Post contains images RussianJet : Truer words never spoken.
39 hOmsAR : This is a tough subject to deal with, because there are so many issues out there that you really can't point to one of them and say "well, that's why
40 Dreadnought : A friend of mine killed himself when we were in high school. He was normally a very upbeat, outgoing and friendly guy - nobody disliked him. But he wa
41 Max Q : No judgement's here, I know it's terrible for those left behind but imagine the hell someone has to be in to actually end it all. At the end of the da
42 seb146 : Yes, but some people suffer in silence. They think people notice without them saying anything or they don't want to bother anyone with what they beli
43 Post contains links and images Skydrol : Ah, the topic which is usually kept in silence! One family member's long-term clinical depression lead to suicide; meds didn't help. Another two famil
44 type-rated : Back in the early 80's I went to lunch with a good friend of mine and we talked about the latest computers that were becoming available. We both had A
45 RussianJet : I watched 'The Bridge' some time ago - I thought it was a very interesting piece.
46 greasespot : Yes. Two months ago I responded to a kid who tried to kill himself. He ended up shooting his entire face off an missing his brain. It was gory graphic
47 RussianJet : Sounds utterly horrendous. I hope that your department provides counselling should you feel you need it. Not going to be an easy one to forget.
48 3DoorsDown : I never saw her after Junior high school but my very first girlfriend from 30 years ago, committed suicide three years ago. Kind of depressing. Who kn
49 EY460 : I want to add something for those of you affected by a suicide, even if I am sure not everybody agrees with my words. When a person gets to the point
50 flyingturtle : I dedicate my 1001st post to two friends and colleagues I have lost. In 1996 or so, a female girl I went to school with killed herself when she was 16
51 tommy767 : I was hospitalized for depression this past fall for a week -- intensive care then outpatient for 2.5 months. I often thought of getting into a brutal
52 AirPacific747 : A friend of my sister committed suicide on the 12/12/12. He hanged himself from a tree in a forest. He was depressive often, but he had everything to
53 Post contains links and images Skydrol : Rare for a family to decide to make a 20 year-old suicide victim's final words public, but this can give some insight into the pain inside of an other
54 4holer : What seems to be a recurring theme here, not in all, but often, is an issue with substance abuse. Whether it is the cause, or a manifestation of, thei
55 af773atmsp : Sorry for bringing up an old thread but my friend just sent me this on Facebook and I feel it deserves to be on this thread: "Here's the thing about l
56 4holer : That's a pretty good way to put it.
57 PHX787 : I saw someone kill themselves today by jumping off of a building on campus. She's the same age as me, and it was quite tragic. I didn't know her thank
58 Post contains images lightsaber : A hard thread to read, but I'm glad I did. I've had three brushes with people who tried/committed suicide. 1. A kid who looked almost *exactly* like m
59 ME AVN FAN : It depends. A schoolfriend of my older brother did suicide. The chap had an bicycle accident and became paraliyzed. He not only saw that there was no
60 RussianJet : That's awful. I hope you're ok after seeing it. Well, I appreciate that having a PMA helps and all, but the fact is - it doesn't always feel great at
61 ME AVN FAN : There also are INdirect ways. My brother suffered from consequences of both two major cancer operations and his own way of neither taking care of the
62 Post contains links zkojq : One of my closest friends has severe depression (as well as several other mental illnesses). He has a very bad relationship with his step-dad and has
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