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Do You Give Money To Beggars? If Not, Other Help?  
User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7694 posts, RR: 21
Posted (1 year 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 4727 times:
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This question is the result of a discussion, well disagreement really, I had with a friend the other day. I was approached for money by an obvious vagrant who was in a very sorry-looking state, and I said no, but asked if he was hungry and if he would like something to eat. He said yes, so I duly furnished him with BK burger and a hot cup of coffee. He was very grateful and scoffed the burger immediately.

Anyway, 'sucker' was what my friend called me for doing this. When pushed for justification of this label, his main thrust seemed to be along the lines that he was sure the guy could get proper help if he wanted it and was basically too lazy or disorganised or whatever to sort himself out.

I consider this to be pretty callous, and I was pretty disappointed in him (not that I'll hold it against him!). The bottom line for me is that he was in an obviously bad way, it was cold and we'd had snow, and regardless of why he is in this position I will not begrudge someone a bit of food if I can afford to give it to them, have the time etc. (well, if you can call BK food.....). I am not happy to simply dish out money to unknown ends.

So the question - do you give money or any other form of help to homeless people sometimes? If so, in what form? If never, why not?

I realise I can't help everyone, but I do buy a hot drink or bite to eat for people now and again if the attitude is ok and they appear to need it. I really don't see anything wrong with it.


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User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 4720 times:
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Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
He said yes, so I duly furnished him with BK burger and a hot cup of coffee. He was very grateful and scoffed the burger immediately

The last straw was when a bum asked me for food while he was standing infront of a door at the McDonald's om Woodward Ave, in Detroit. I told him I would buy him anything he wanted, but he said he wanted Wendy's and could I give him the money instead. I asked where he would get Wendy's and he said "down the block" I told him there was no Wendy's around here and he said he just wanted money.

We get worthless bums comming into my church all the time asking for food. I have taken many of them to the big pantry we have in the back for just such a reason and they tell me they want hot food. I then say "go down the street to the Methodist church they have hot food" then they say I want the money. Women who come in want the food and are happy to have it, the men really just want money.

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
do you give money or any other form of help to homeless people sometimes? If so, in what form? If never, why not?

Never, Never, Never, I am have been burned enough times. I will give my church's food to people who actually want it and I contribute to organizations that will actually feed people, but I will not give a penny to a beggar on the street.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6177 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 4713 times:
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Elderly people: Due to our sorry Social Security system, many elderly men and women live in total abandon and / or squalor. They obviously can´t work and usually live alone, in srtuctures that can hardly be called a home. I give to them anytime I can.

Children: Never. A child begging is being exploited by an adult. Giving them money is promoting that exploitation.

Adults: Mentally ill? I´ll get them food, but no money, as it only makes them targets and usually loose it or spend it in alcohol or drugs. Not mentally ill? Sorry, I need that money too.



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7140 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 4708 times:

It depends. When in the car I have change around which will only sit there for years or go to parking so once in a while I will give the person come change it really just depends and it's fairly random unless I actually believe the sign they are holding.

As for food, it has only happened once but a man in a drive thru line asked if I could order him a meal and I did. I have no problem with that. I'm lucky enough to never had to worry about anything like so might as well help people out who are when possible.



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User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3623 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 4703 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
So the question - do you give money or any other form of help to homeless people sometimes? If so, in what form? If never, why not?

Depends. I usually go for non-cash donations. If some homeless person asks me for food I will gladly get some for them. I have run on homeless people sitting outside convenience stores and they sometimes ask if I could get them something to eat and drink. I would not give money because I think it would be wasted on non-essentials such as drugs and alcohol.

I have only given money twice, both times when visiting back home in Greece. On one occasion I saw a very old lady looking for food in a trashcan and a few days later the same scene with a mother and two children. I did give them enough money to get some food, since the crisis has eliminated any state-sponsored safety nets.

I don't really agree with people that consider them bums who are too lazy to get a job and get their life going. Some people screw up badly and end up on the street. That is enough self-inflicted "punishment" for them and I can only assume that going from the street to a position capable of getting any job is very hard to almost impossible.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 4693 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
So the question - do you give money or any other form of help to homeless people sometimes? If so, in what form? If never, why not?

No, I don't anymore. Give them money, they'll be out looking for their next hit or score instead of actually trying to help themselves. It's pathetic. So, I stopped helping.



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User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 4692 times:

In Paris, I assume, like in London, most beggars are Roma (Romanian Gypsies): an organised petty crime mafia. They harass you on every second corner, they live in shanty towns on the edge of town and the proceeds go straight to the tribal boss, then the mafia boss. They abuse their children and use them as emotional capital from a very early age. They drug them as the get too old for being nursed for sympathy so that they sleep all day, compliant in their arms to attract more revenue. This is out and out child abuse and illegal in France.

I give to anyone who does not fall into the Roma category, as with the Roma I am only supporting a culture of oppression. Lone and obviously independent beggars I am willing to give something to.



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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3053 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 4681 times:

I used to give money, but there's a small problem where in EVERY single intersection there's someone begging. And if you gave to one and have no money for the next one, you're the bad guy.

I switched to buying them food or something else, but the last straw was a guy at McDonald's who came to me begging to eat. He wanted money but I told him I could buy anything he wanted from the restaurant. Not only did he ask for the most expensive meal, he actually threw it away.

I no longer give anything to anyone, even if my pocket is jingling and full of coins. Too much risk. Give them a penny, they might take a gun out and rob you of everything.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7694 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 4674 times:
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Quoting falstaff (Reply 1):

The last straw was when a bum asked me for food while he was standing infront of a door at the McDonald's om Woodward Ave, in Detroit. I told him I would buy him anything he wanted, but he said he wanted Wendy's and could I give him the money instead. I asked where he would get Wendy's and he said "down the block" I told him there was no Wendy's around here and he said he just wanted money.

That sucks. If you're hungry you take what you are offered. I had the opposite experience to you not so long ago, when I was by a well-known coffee chain. A shivering guy asked for cash, no I said, but would he like a hot drink and food? He said yes please, and I said he could have anything he liked within reason. The ONLY thing asked for was hot milk.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5):

No, I don't anymore. Give them money, they'll be out looking for their next hit or score instead of actually trying to help themselves. It's pathetic. So, I stopped helping.

Yes, but reading my whole post money wasn't the only focus. One can help in other ways.

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 6):
In Paris, I assume, like in London, most beggars are Roma (Romanian Gypsies): an organised petty crime mafia

Yup, they are about and will get NOTHING from me.



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User currently offlinecharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1119 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 4668 times:

I have...now that I work downtown it is a daily occurance to be approached, a friend was going into a CVS to buy beer, he got a 6-pack of Miller High Life to have some on the train home, he saw a street person on the way out and asked if he'd like a beer, of course the guy said "yes" so he gave him a beer..as he walked away all he heard was "f**$ing High Life" I knew another who saw a Mcdonalds that offered 2 Big Macs for the price of one and he gave the 2nd one to a homeless woman..her answer was not thank you but "where are the fries and drink"..like we owe these F*%$s anything..they are there because they want to be and I can tell you more of what I've observed..screw 'em

User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7694 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 4663 times:
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Quoting charlienorth (Reply 9):
..like we owe these F*%$s anything..they are there because they want to be and I can tell you more of what I've observed..screw 'em

The attitude test is all important. Any hint of aggression or arrogance and the refusal to help will be total.



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User currently onlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5391 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 2 hours ago) and read 4651 times:

We don't don't seem to high a high level of vagrancy or begging going on around here. The occasional person on the side of the road or at the top of an exit ramp, but nothing over the top. I really can't recall when someone may have come up to me and ask for money in this city. I'm not so naive to think that they don't exist; maybe they aren't as aggressive here?

But, I never, ever provide cash. To tell you the truth, I rarely provide anything. My wife and I give generously to our church and our local charities.

On a rare occasion, when something in particular moves me, I will provide some food. Sometime in the early fall, I saw a man and 2 children at the top of the exit ramp and something told me they really needed some help. Instead of heading right to work, I went to a Subway, bought some turkey sub meals and returned to the intersection. I just handed the bags to the dad(?), said God bless and moved on.



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User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3769 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4590 times:

I'll give a little money if I have it (and can spare the change) every once in a while. The city I live in isn't huge, and we don't have a huge number of beggars, but there are some. I also buy a magazine called "Faktum" which is sold by homeless people. They receive a 50% commission, I believe, and it's actually a pretty decent rag.

I've started to notice what appears to be an organised group of young beggars (including children looking to be around 8-10) coming through town and spening time sitting and asking for money on the sidewalk. They come through town every few months and stay for a few days. First time I came across them, it was a small child outside my local grocery wearing a sweater and sweatpants in -10C weather. I called the social services, who came and took the child in, fed him and gave him new clothes. When I called the next day to see what happened, the story I got from the social service the child's "uncle" had collected him, as they were only "passing through", and there was nothing they could do. I've seen the same kid when the group has come through town since.

I won't give anything to them. Seems to be a Fagin-like character, this "uncle" pulling the strings and pocketing the money, who apparently doesn't mind his minions risking freezing to death in order to make them look more pathetic and thus bring in more money.

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User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Twice I gave about $5 to woman who said they where homeless and they wanted money for food. I used to give to homeless more often but the question on how they use the money has come into question, alcohol and drug by itinerants is something I have seen from time to time. I have never given money to people on the freeway exits. I do though give to organizations like the Salvation Army but little to anyone else. A lot of these people in Long Beach who solicit and possibly grift ask for money (to help homeless) don't show or disclose the organization they are working for so I don't give to them anymore.


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User currently offlinePu From Sweden, joined Dec 2011, 697 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

I have volunteered at organsiations to help street people, runaways and women trying to escape abusers. In North America and the EU someone begging for money on the street is 95% of the time someone who has decided that begging for money is their occupation. It sounds a rough life to most of us, but by panhandling and selectively using the available social services they eat well enough and are effectively on one long camping trip, or one long vacation from membership in conventional scoiety.

Not that they don't deserve help, but helpless is not the correct term for their situation in most cases.


Pu


User currently onlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5391 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4539 times:

Quoting Pu (Reply 14):
who has decided that begging for money is their occupation.

A long time ago, when I was in high school, I would ride the 'A' train to school. I noticed this one pan-handler I'd seen almost everyday and decided following him would be more interesting than whatever was going to be going on in school.

The guy went from car-to-car and I figure he picked up about $2 a car. During the morning rush, the 'A' train was 10 cars and the guy would work his way through the train in 15-20 mins. He would get off the train walk to the front of the platform. By the time he got to the front, another train would be coming into the station...about 8 mins or so.

So, he worked 2.5 trains an hour for about 3 hours. I suspect that he did the same for the night rush.

So, in 1984'ish, this guy was pulling in about $50/hour for 5 or so hours a day. I'm sure some days were worse than others, but it did seem to be a pretty good gig.



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5689 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4517 times:
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Not often, where I now live there are few homeless folk in the street.

A couple of years back at the station entrance I passed through on the way to and from work there was one regular and as I had just come off a longish unemplyed spell and was in an entry level role I rarely had much to spare in any case, he was always ready with a smile and a have a nice day whether you gave or not, so one day I asked if I could get him a coffee or a cool drink and he readily accepted, we had a nice chat and after that every week or so I would stop have a bit of chat and maybe I would get a sandwich or two..

I pass that way every few months and he is sometimes there, I hope others get as much reward from his good humour as I did!



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9277 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4507 times:

It really depends. In Germany, our social systenm supports anyone without a regular income and that should be enough. However, if a guy looks genuinely in trouble I give.

A problem we have here is beggars who come in from places lke Romania and are held like slaves by their owner, whatever you give them is taken from them to finance the boss' fancy live style. Old women mutate to young women once the shift is over and they are driven in a Benz to their shabby dwellings. It is actually organised crime which should not be supported.



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User currently offlinemal787 From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4507 times:

In a case like this , I will by anybody a good feed and a drink. I never give money, as 9 times out of 10 it ends up being spent on alcohol. If they don't want the food , so be it but they cant have the $$ equivalent I sometimes get called names from them for this as they need the $$ for grog.

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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7251 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4508 times:

Most of the beggars around here are gypsies, I'll never give money to them, especially after I watched one take a dump outside the Storting in Oslo, right beside the public toilet, they are almost subhuman IMO. The stupid Norwegian govt made begging legal a couple of years ago now the country is flooded with Roma, there isn't a clean sidewalk or street corner in Oslo, they piss and shit everywhere, just nasty, nasty excuses for humans. Some cities in Norway have even provided toilet and showering facilities for them, they go unsed. Our local group were kicked out of the motorcamp they were staying in, for nonpayment, they completely trashed the caravans and campsite, they are now living in the hills somewere outside of town.

User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4494 times:
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Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 19):
Most of the beggars around here are gypsies

Around these parts gypsies are usually involved in home improvement scams and other construction related rip offs. A buddy of mine who owns a business gets them stopping in from time to time to "reseal" his parking lot. He got burned by it 30 years ago, when it turned out to be used motor oil.

When I was a teenager in, St. Louis, Missouri, I remember seeing news reports on the local channels about gypsies being spotted in the area and tips on how to spot and avoid their scams.



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User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4494 times:

I think the EU needs to develop a policy on the Roma. They are illegally present in very large numbers now in most EU countries and are a major social and security problem. Avoiding talking about them as a group is just impossibly stupid PC behaviour. They ACT AS A GROUP: a dehumanising organised crime ring built on the abuse of the children and the exploitation of the many for wealth of a few crime bosses. The EU is currently, with its generous policies, providing the perfect 'Petri dish' to ferment their activity and numbers.

The only way to break the cycle of hopelessness for their children and social problems for their 'host' nations is to smash the criminal rings that operate their activities. This will require some tough 'love' action.

PC does not cut it with the Roma problem.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26909 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4491 times:

I agree with food donations other than money but what I hate is when these people stand or sit next to ATMs as its very intimidating. The Police should move them on.

User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7251 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4472 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 20):
Around these parts gypsies are usually involved in home improvement scams and other construction related rip offs.

I think there's a world of difference between gypsies in the US and UK (Irish Travellers) than the human detris Roma gypsie that we get in Norway. Our gypsies wouldn't know a job if it came up and slapped them in the face, they don't understand the concept of cleanleness, they sleep rough, they aren't ashphalt contractors, they probably can't drive. They don't have big fat gypsie weddings like they do in the UK and US

American/UK style gypsy



Norwegian Roma Beggar - every street corner has several of these



User currently onlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4459 times:

It's different everywhere, but in this country you get supported by the taxpayer if you can't afford to support yourself for whatever reason. There are additional allowances and programmes designed to get people on their feet, into jobs and off the dole.

I appreciate that the are all sorts of circumstances and stories, and that homeless people have generally lived very difficult lives or are going through difficult periods. But there is a point where they've got to get up and at least try to do more than just sit and wait for others to give money.

I virtually always give the guy standing at the traffic lights washing windows a few dollars. If I have some cash then I'll buy a copy of the Big Issue (which I don't think is in the US yet). But I never give anything to beggars...


25 RussianJet : I was pretty shocked last time I was in Oslo. Couldn't believe how many there were in the centre.
26 Post contains images falstaff : They aren't here either, they just want you to think they are. I have run across them in Europe. If they talk to me I swear at them in German and kee
27 Post contains links and images KiwiRob : It's like an infestation of roaches, nearly impossible to get rid of, especially when the do gooder politicians legalised begging a few years ago. li
28 PanHAM : just ignore them and try to stay away from them. . It's what i meant when i spoke about organised crime, whatever they collect they have to give to t
29 RobertNL070 : I give a sizeable amount to the Salvation Army every year. Conscience salved and you know that the funds will be wisely spent.
30 Post contains links dc9northwest : Rroma are not necessarily Romanian. There are Rroma throughout Europe. You can call them whatever you like, and many, if not most, are from Romania,
31 AM744 : When I give, and that is extremely rare because of all the scams, exploitation, etc. it tends to be old people, specially women and indigenous. Around
32 RussianJet : I agree. In fact, I'd also prefer to flush my money down the toilet.
33 MD-90 : I don't. Instead I work with my church and donate to LCCI which is Limestone County Churches Involved. That money and time and food and everything els
34 nickh : A woman that I used to work with had a very soft heart, when it came to giving to the homeless, etc. However, she was not careless about doing so and
35 Ken777 : My wife and I don't give to street beggars but we do have organizations that we support. John 3:16 gets checks throughout the year and I make what is
36 itsjustme : Nice attitude. Might I suggest donating to a credible charity? Or the victims of Hurricane Sandy can use your help. How about donating to a Children'
37 kiwiinoz : I generally give. I am quite happy to take the risk of enabling bad behaviour on the off chance that I can actually help someone genuinely in need. Ev
38 zrs70 : If I give to 100 people, and only 1 of them is "legit," I have done the right thing.
39 seb146 : I don't give money to beggars. When I am in United States or Canada. We saw plenty of beggars in Mexico. I took the same attitude there as I do with b
40 KiwiRob : No they are the War on Terror and Gulf War(s) vets.
41 AirPacific747 : I never donate money to homeless people here. Local citizens can get all the help they need. Free healthcare, a place to stay, free food and the list
42 pvjin : Well majority of beggars around here are foreigners who come from somewhere around Eastern Europe so no, I don't support beggar tourism and crime rela
43 Post contains images ImperialEagle : I take it on a case by case basis. Here in Roanoke I rarely encounter instances of begging. Back in Atlanta was another story. Atlanta, which is FULL
44 Post contains links RussianJet : Unfortunately, the fact is that in western Europe there is a serious and very acute problem with regard to Roma gypsies from eastern Europe. They oft
45 babybus : In the UK it really isn't necessary to give money to beggars. They can get food from soup kitchens every night, churches give out food too. No one sta
46 Cadet985 : Not at all. I stopped giving after I saw a "beggar" get into a BMW or Mercedes (this was several years ago, so some details have faded) and drive away
47 RussianJet : Maybe, but many might therefore be in bad states and perhaps not particularly capable of planning. They might still need help, even if in principle t
48 KiwiRob : Because they are a blot on the landscape, crime follows them like fleas on an old dog, they aren't worth wasting money on. Lots of countries have tri
49 bongodog1964 : I live close to a small city, which is deemed to be not only one of the most affluent in the UK, but also an international tourist destination. The re
50 Boeing717200 : I gave a guy a cheeseburger once. He threw it back at me. Pretty much ruined it for the rest of them.
51 RussianJet : That's a shame, but did you talk to him first? Definitely best to ask if he'd actually like one first, though of course there is no excuse for the re
52 mad99 : Ha! If you live in Oslo then your seeing the 4 that didn't move to Madrid. They take the metro to my neighbourhood just to beg then go home at night.
53 RussianJet : Quite so. There are large numbers from Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Bulgaria for example. Can also be found in Russia and the Ukraine, though to
54 Post contains images Braniff747SP : They are everywhere in Madrid. Can't sit down at a bloody cafe without having a group of four of them swarm you, shove a newspaper in your face, and
55 dc9northwest : The bad ones are everywhere. But we've had the bad luck that many gypsies settled in Romania and that Rromani and Romania sound identical to the fore
56 ME AVN FAN : I once took a girl who was begging into a small restaurant and ordered a little bit to eat and some coffee.. I however refused to give her a single c
57 n229nw : Sigh. I hate reading these hatefests, because I have a wife, and especially because I have kids, who are Gypsies. Sorry, but I have to disagree. First
58 ME AVN FAN : you indeed cannot equate all gypsies with each other or with Romanians or all Romanians with each other . Most of all Gypsies and most of all Romania
59 dc9northwest : Sorry I won't reply to all your specific points. I will, however, address some. I do not think that Gypsies/Rroma are by blood inferior to anyone els
60 RussianJet : Kudos to you - great story. If it really is one subgroup then they are extraordinarily prolific, and pretty large in number given that such problems
61 n229nw : And to you, too. Sorry I won't be able to respond to all your points. Let's start where we agree completely: Absolutely. People have to live in the mo
62 Post contains images RussianJet : Agreed.
63 falstaff : I have only ever heard of that when I travel to Europe. I don't see or hear about much of that in the USA. A buddy of mine is police detective in Hal
64 Post contains images Flighty : I save my money so I can give it away later. I don't spend it. There are exceptions. In ~2010 a guy gave me a good rap (not slick, pretty inarticulate
65 LO231 : Romas ruin it for those really in need... As many of us in Europe, I don't carry cash on me, using my ATM card everywhere... Once Roma lady with a bab
66 nickh : The same applies in India and other some other Asian countries. India's "Beggar Industry" is well organized and has a plentiful unemployed/uneducated
67 Thom@s : I don't give money to beggars. However (if you can compare the two) I do donate money to charities such as UNICEF from time to time. The last time I w
68 Flighty : A related scam comes to mind. There is a lady around me who sells candy for $5. Not only is she not licensed to sell candy, she lies saying she is co
69 Thom@s : Farted upon. Oh wait, you said more polite... Thom@s
70 Post contains links 4holer : About 20 years ago, I was setting up a tailgater at old Three Rivers Stadium when a yellow eyed man approached and asked if I could spare some money.
71 Revelation : It's interesting to see how many stories people have of being upset with how beggars acted when given money and have then used it as the reason to NEV
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