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Meanwhile, In Gaza...  
User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1583 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=300848



Haniyeh says inaugural academy in Gaza Strip will prepare children as young as 12 years old for "liberating Palestine," establish Palestinian state "from the river to the sea"; more than 10,000 kids attend military parade.

(…)

He said that children in grades 7-9 could join the academy and graduate with a Diploma or Bachelor of Arts in military affairs.

Haniyeh was speaking during a ceremony in the Gaza Strip marking the birth of Prophet Mohamed. More than 10,000 schoolchildren attended the ceremony, which included a "military parade" by some of the teenagers...

Okay..I know Israel isn't a saint, but I'm sorry, Hamas is just training kids to be terrorists...

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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40073 posts, RR: 74
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2433 times:

I'm confused. Barack Hussein Obama said they were peaceful. I know he doesn't like when Americans cling to guns & religion. Does he feel the same about these 'peaceful' 'freedom fighters'? How tolerant are they of people of other religious beliefs or no religious beliefs at all? What is their opinion on gay rights and women's contraceptives? Are they waging a war against women?
Who should I believe?



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User currently offlineSFBdude From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

I wouldn't be surprised if most of these kids were homeless orphans due to the attacks against them from the israeli terrorists

User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1412 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2369 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
I know he doesn't like when Americans cling to guns & religion. Does he feel the same about these 'peaceful' 'freedom fighters'? How tolerant are they of people of other religious beliefs or no religious beliefs at all? What is their opinion on gay rights and women's contraceptives? Are they waging a war against women?

While I'm in the camp that's weary of the god'n'guns here in the states, yes, I think we need to be consistent about this. While I would support a two state solution WRT Israel & Palestine, I do not believe this means we should just give carte blanche to just any Palestinian "authority" than openly embraces terroristic policies. Especially when children are involved. I know this is nothing new with those guys, but this is simply begging for more trouble with the IDF.

Quoting SFBdude (Reply 2):
I wouldn't be surprised if most of these kids were homeless orphans due to the attacks against them from the israeli terrorists

Maybe so. But even if this were a case of Israel being a bad guy just because they feel like it (and I do not see that as the case), I cannot see how this justifies turning children into weapons. If they really were orphaned for that reason (or any really), I think they've already had a shitty enough life as it is. To me, this is no better than ten year old "soldiers" in Sub-saharan Africa being used to commit all manner of mayhem...



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User currently offlineQFA380 From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 2084 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
Barack Hussein Obama said they were peaceful.


Let me fix that for you:

Quoting SFBdude (Reply 2):

I wouldn't be surprised if most of these kids were homeless orphans due to the attacks defensive actions against them Hamas from the Israeli terrorists military defending their homeland.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40073 posts, RR: 74
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 4):
Let me fix that for you:



Thanks.
I get it.

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 3):
While I'm in the camp that's weary of the god'n'guns here in the states, yes, I think we need to be consistent about this.



Glad you see that clinging to guns & religion can be a bad thing in the Middle East.
The the God'n'guns crowd in the US doesn't bother me at all. It's the guns & gangsters crowd that worries me. Having been held up at gun point myself by a low-lifes in the streets is my reason for being weary of them. I haven't had any run-ins with Bible-thumpers anywhere near as bad.



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4796 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2324 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Thread starter):
He said that children in grades 7-9 could join the academy and graduate with a Diploma or Bachelor of Arts in military affairs.

Hmmm,
What happens to the dropouts? Is there a way to get a GED?

This article makes your realize why peace is a very diffcult process over there. Israel make some mistakes itself, but this is rather overt terrorism .



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User currently offlineflipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
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They should all just calm down. I don't honestly care why they are fighting or who is fighting who but they all just need to grow up and stop thinking that kicky fighty smashy punchy is all ok.

Fred


User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2296 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Thread starter):
Okay..I know Israel isn't a saint, but I'm sorry, Hamas is just training kids to be terrorists...

Who said they will be terrorists? If they only shoot IDF soldiers their actions are just as justified and okay as in any other war. Israelis are the ones causing big majority of civilian deaths anyway, IDF actions do meet the definition of terrorism way better than what most of these Palestinians have been doing.



"A rational army would run away"
User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1368 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2292 times:

You know what a great way to undermine this would be? Showing them how kids in the rest of the world have it. Sadly, the response from Israel and the rest of the world will probably isolate Gaza further, and validate both Hamas and Israeli hardliners.

User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1672 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Thread starter):
Okay..I know Israel isn't a saint, but I'm sorry, Hamas is just training kids to be terrorists...

Go on Youtube, and look up Palestinian childrens television ( http://www.youtube.com/results?searc....16.16.0...0.0...1ac.1.vT1t0APclfI ). As long as shows like this continue to air, there won't be peace.

Marc


User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 3):

No I agree with you...whichever government that is representing the Palestinian people can't be training terrorists on the side. Sub Saharan Africa hasn't open declared its child soldiers though..


User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

Quoting pvjin (Reply 8):

What is Isreal supposed to do.,not fight back against Hamas? Hamas is the one who was hiding rocket launchers in civilian areas and using human shields...


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40073 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

All these people need is a shotgun.


Signed Joe Biden.



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User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 12):
What is Israel supposed to do.,not fight back against Hamas? Hamas is the one who was hiding rocket launchers in civilian areas and using human shields...

Israel should give Palestinians their own independent state and also Palestinians should allow Israel to have their own areas. Both sides are at fault and should be flexible in negotiations.

Unfortunately both sides have these extremists which destroy the whole thing. Had Israel been more flexible and truly tried to finally get peace to this area I doubt Hamas would have gotten that much support, and on the other hand if Hamas wasn't so radical I believe also extremist views on Israeli side would be way less popular.

I think both sides should be forced to peace through military action if nothing else helps. Both Israel and Palestine would need some rational peace loving people into power instead of idiots running these areas right now. People who would be ready to forget the past, ignore extremist views and start negotiations for better future.

My point is simply that it's not like Palestinian side is full of terrorists and Israelis just rightfully trying to defend their land, both sides are at fault for living in the past.

But I guess too big percentage of people in both countries are too full of hate and stupidity to understand how pointless their fight is.

[Edited 2013-01-25 10:12:44]


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User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

Quoting pvjin (Reply 14):
Unfortunately both sides have these extremists which destroy the whole thing. Had Israel been more flexible and truly tried to finally get peace to this area I doubt Hamas would have gotten that much support, and on the other hand if Hamas wasn't so radical I believe also extremist views on Israeli side would be way less popular.

Well Hamas is this radical, what are we going to do about it? I dont see them giving up their positions any time soon.

Quoting pvjin (Reply 14):
My point is simply that it's not like Palestinian side is full of terrorists and Israelis just rightfully trying to defend their land, both sides are at fault for living in the past.

well i agree with you on this, but right now, Hamas is in control of Gaza and gaining ground over in the West Bank...


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21875 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2172 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 15):
but right now, Hamas is in control of Gaza and gaining ground over in the West Bank...

Hamas' growth in the West Bank can be pinned on Israel. If Israel were actually treating the West Bank as a productive player in the peace process, then the people in Gaza would have something to look at as evidence that if they try and work with Israel, there will be progress. Instead, Israel keeps building settlements in the West Bank, contrary to every peace plan that's been put out. It's hard to blame those in the West Bank for thinking "well, the whole non-violent thing hasn't really helped us, maybe we need to try the Hamas strategy".

-Mir



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User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 17):
The scum known as Palestinians are not interested in peace at all. Anyone who wants to challenge me on this is welcome to. I've been there five times. I've been through a terrorist attack. Can anyone here say the same thing?

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

If a few terrorist attacks means that no-one of that nationality or whatever classification you like to use means they are not interested in peace then there isn't many in the world who are interested in peace. It is not like there is a shortage of Israeli/Jewish terrorists.

Sadly I think your statements are more descriptive about your interest in peace between Israel and Palestine.


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2064 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Thread starter):
Hamas is just training kids to be terrorists...

Personally I can't get over the 'double standard' that instantly applies whenever Israel/Palestine is discussed.

My own school had a cadet corps, in which we were 'trained' (and taken on the odd trip to Germany) on the (then reasonable) assumption that if we had to fight anyone, it would probably be the Russians and the Warsaw Pact. And the United States still has numerous military academies, which (in my day) worked on the same assumption. Was that 'training us to be terrorists'?

Palestine does not have conscription as far as I know - but Israel does, all fit men and women have to sign on for a minimum of two years' national service at age 18. Who do people think they are mainly trained to fight - and quite often sent to fight? The Turks, or the Saudi-Arabians?

My own view is that, back in 1947/8, the Palestinians were subjected to a monstrous injustice. The Western world should never have countenanced - leave alone encouraged and financed - the setting up of a religiously-intolerant state in their homeland. And the Palestinians, particularly in the West Bank, remain under constant and deadly attack on virtually a daily basis:-

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/342032

But, of course, the Israeli Army aren't trained to be 'terrorists'............... 

[Edited 2013-01-25 17:33:17]


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User currently offlinePowerslide From Canada, joined Oct 2010, 571 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days ago) and read 2051 times:

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 20):
back in 1947/8

Still living in the past I see. Move. On.

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 20):
But, of course, the Israeli Army aren't trained to be 'terrorists'............... 

A professional Army is not the same as an organization who's sole purpose is to cleanse the area "from the river to the sea" of Jews.

I'm actually glad the Palestinians are taking this route. This means that those kids/whomever are being trained in a semi-professional way, meaning they'll probably be wearing a uniform when they get shot by the IDF. At least they will die honourably, fighting - legally - under a military uniform and flag.


User currently offlinePu From Sweden, joined Dec 2011, 777 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Thread starter):
Okay..I know Israel isn't a saint, but I'm sorry, Hamas is just training kids to be terrorists...

Last time I checked being in the IDF was mandatory for every Israeli and the Israelis kill about 5 times as many civilians as the Palestinains do. So how is what the Palestinains are doing any worse than what the Israelis are doing in terms of training their young? The use of the word "terrorist" is little more than an easy way to identify a partisan hoping to impugn their opponent with rhetoric - its a term mainly used to scare weak-minded followers whose opinion is decided first by others with a political agenda.



Pu


User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

Quoting Powerslide (Reply 21):
I'm actually glad the Palestinians are taking this route. This means that those kids/whomever are being trained in a semi-professional way, meaning they'll probably be wearing a uniform when they get shot by the IDF. At least they will die honourably, fighting - legally - under a military uniform and flag

I doubt Hamas will do any of that, they dont care...

Quoting Pu (Reply 22):
Last time I checked being in the IDF was mandatory for every Israeli and the Israelis kill about 5 times as many civilians as the Palestinains do.

yes but the stated goal of Hamas is destruction of Israel...the IDF has never said we want to destroy the Palestinians. Moreover, Israel and the IDF are not indoctrinating their children with hate and violence, at least from what ive read and seen.

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 20):
My own view is that, back in 1947/8, the Palestinians were subjected to a monstrous injustice. The Western world should never have countenanced - leave alone encouraged and financed - the setting up of a religiously-intolerant state in their homeland. And the Palestinians, particularly in the West Bank, remain under constant and deadly attack on virtually a daily basis:-

NAV20, it happened, its done. There is an Israel now and the Palestinian people..they both have to resolve it. We cant keep going back to 1947/48. We all cant hop in a time machine and change history. But, now with the Israeli elections, i am much more hopeful a deal will take place. It takes hardliners in Israel to make peace...


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2027 times:

Quoting Powerslide (Reply 21):
Still living in the past I see.
Quoting caliatenza (Reply 23):
NAV20, it happened, its done.

Disagree, guys - the process of forcible annexation of Palestinian land started in 1947/8, and it is still going on:-

"William Hague said yesterday that prospects for a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are almost dead as voters in Israel looked likely to return a hardline rightist government.

"The Foreign Secretary warned Israel that it was losing international support because it was expanding Jewish settlements in occupied territory.

"An independent Palestinian state alongside Israel has been the basis of the US-backed Middle East peace process for almost 20 years.

"But Mr Hague told MPs: ‘I hope that whatever Israeli government emerges will recognise that we are approaching the last chance to bring about such a solution.

'I condemn recent Israeli decisions to expand settlements.

'I speak regularly to Israeli leaders stressing our profound concern that Israel’s settlement policy is losing it the support of the international community and will make a two-state solution impossible.’


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User currently offlinedamirc From Slovenia, joined Feb 2004, 726 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1987 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 23):
yes but the stated goal of Hamas is destruction of Israel

Considering that the latest excursion into Gaza strengthened Hamas (unfortunately also in the West Bank) I do have the silly feeling that Israel actually wants Hamas to stay - they need someone to keep the conflict going - unfortunately some Palestinians have not figured out yet that they're being played. Fatah on the other hand is trying to deal with the situation with legalist instruments (the only smart way at this time, at least from my perspective) is losing support. I don't think it would take a lot for Israel to work towards Hamas losing popular support - cooperating with the Fatah would be a start. But as said - I don't believe that this is what Israel really wants.

And just for the sake of full disclosure on goals from both sides - the Likud's charter (mind you it's the current Israeli PM's Netanyahu's party) also states:

- "Jerusalem is the eternal, united capital of the State of Israel and only of Israel."

- "The Jordan Valley and the territories that dominate it shall be under Israeli sovereignty. The Jordan river will be the permanent eastern border of the State of Israel."

- "The government will insist that security areas essential to Israel's defense, including the western security area and the Jewish settlements, shall remain under Israeli rule."

So while technically allowing for an establishment of a Palestinian state it is doubtful where that Palestine could possibly be ... judging by Netanyahu's actions probably on Mars.

D.


User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

Quoting Powerslide (Reply 19):
Still living in the past I see. Move. On.

Whooooooa, sorry but the whole foundation of Israel today is that modern Israel/Westbank/Gaza was once (thousands of years ago) populated by Jews. If anyone is living in the past it is the Israelis.

Meanwhile in the present, Bibi keeps approving the construction of more settlements on the Arab side of the Green Line which is going to do wonders for the peace-process. Sigh.

Quoting Pu (Reply 20):
Last time I checked being in the IDF was mandatory for every Israeli and the Israelis kill about 5 times as many civilians as the Palestinains do. So how is what the Palestinains are doing any worse than what the Israelis are doing in terms of training their young?

And there was the incident of the Israeli school kids signing/writing messages on large Israeli munitions.



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25 Post contains images Powerslide : Oh the horror!
26 777way : You bet, coming from a country that tries to show the world its some civilised, westernised democracy, maybe Hamas are right, after all they know you
27 Post contains images PHX787 : Hey Fly, how's this for a crazy hypothesis- Biden and Barack Hussein Obama will take guns from responsible owners, such as myself, and give them to H
28 777way : Are you Palestinian living in Gaza? have you even endured a fraction of what they have been through while living a cushy life in the US?
29 Post contains images flyguy89 : Who cares? Honestly, the world would be a much better place if the rest of the Middle East were like Israel (i.e. secular democracies with rule-of-la
30 777way : To which the answr is.
31 Cadet985 : You want to talk about peace? My first full day in Israel, my friend took me to Rachel's Tomb, which lies just outside Jerusalem, near Bethlehem. For
32 Powerslide : The Palestinian situation is no fault but their own. What kind of message do they send to Israel with these kid terrorist training camps? From the ar
33 777way : What message was Israel sending to the world with israeli kids writing hate messages on bombs to be used on Gaza under supervision and encouragement
34 Powerslide : Avoiding the question and placing blame on Israel, seems to be the status-quo in that region. This is why Gazans will never see their own country. Wr
35 WestJet747 : It seems a couple posters here have lost perspective. Am I the only one who is going to point out that the US military recruits in high schools? Not t
36 pvjin : So far every single political system has taken liberties away from those they govern, only anarchy offers absolute liberty to anyone. The very people
37 777way : Avoiding questions?? LOL must be related to the fact that In pointed out how your chum here avoided answering questions posed to him in the Al Jazeera
38 Newark727 : Israel is almost unique in the industrialized world in being founded on a specific group's religion. The level of intolerance is debatable, but it's
39 QFA380 : You can say this about nearly every single country on earth you realise. Relatively modern examples you can point to Australia, New Zealand, the US,
40 Powerslide : Considering the Jews overcame near total extermination to build a modern, technologically advanced democracy in less than 100 years. Unlike Israel's
41 Newark727 : Ahahaha really? Have you driven a car lately? Ethnocentrism is usually a bit more veiled than this. Disagree. Why would you invite children to write
42 WestJet747 : Ah, so I'm guessing South Sudan shouldn't have the right to have their own state either? All that genocide business is just gravy, right? Based on yo
43 cmf : Are they? From what I remember they were properly elected. Are they "placing their targets" any different from others? Especially when in a space con
44 Mir : Let's not oversell things here. The Jews were not facing near total extermination - there was a huge Jewish community in the US prior to World War II
45 Powerslide : I wouldn't consider sucking oil out of the ground a contribution. If it wasn't for oil they'd have nothing. Nothing. It doesn't mean anything. The re
46 Newark727 : Then your concept of contribution is both limited and skewed. We wouldn't have the money to tell people who is and isn't a contributor to our society
47 flyguy89 : No, they're not unique in that respect, and their government is secular. Well that was exactly the point. Israel's human rights record isn't simply "
48 Post contains images PHX787 : Are you seriously kidding me? No. Anarchy allows for NO rule of law. Anarchy allows for terrorism to simply exist in itself. Look at Egypt- a complete
49 Newark727 : Not unique, which is exactly what I said. But their circumstances are certainly unusual, and while politics and religion are no strangers in either t
50 cws818 : All of them? Can you actually say with a straight face that no single Palestinian is interested in peace? Consider yourself challenged. So have I. Tw
51 damirc : Does the mind not protest at such a statement at all? There was no functioning Israeli country prior to 1948 either. Yes, there was Eretz Israel a fe
52 Superfly : Of course Barack Hussein Obama would do that. That is where is loyalty is. His friends in the Muslim Brotherhood, apologist in Europe, drug cartels a
53 zkojq : Not like Mossad ever had anyone killed is it? Seriously, take a look at the Wikipedia page, the list is MASSIVE. Difference being that our government
54 pvjin : All the laws take away liberty. Only complete liberty would be anarchy where anybody could do what he/she wants. And yes sure anarchy leads into tota
55 cmf : You think Israel is happy the way it is? I'm sure they would be extremely happy to remove it from their agenda. Problem is, they do not have a soluti
56 Cadet985 : Yes I can. Spend some time over there (I just got back from being over there for a month and this was my fifth trip). Israeli Arabs want peace. Pales
57 pvjin : Maybe that's because they lost their belief in peace after Israel just kept building these settlements on Palestinian land without their permission.
58 cmf : WOW! You really think every single one of them like to live in the situation they do now? That they want to continue living like this. Sounds to me t
59 Post contains images WestJet747 : There was also a pretty significant Jewish population in Africa as well. Deflect, much? It has nothing to do with who the bomb is targeting, it has t
60 pvjin : People of South Sudan have hundreds of years of history there as far as I know, they aren't like immigrants who came to the area of Israel from all a
61 777way : Fully suport this , more so since hamas is increasingly appearing to be on Israel's pay list to keep the game going as is.
62 Powerslide : There have been 10 Muslims who have won Nobel Prizes compared to 183 from the Jewish faith. When you compare the population differences it is even mo
63 777way : Your point on Jews and Muslims winning Nobel prizes is as asinine as Muslims boasting about contributions made by converted Muslims in comparision to
64 cmf : There has been 10 Israeli Nobel Price winners. Are you trying to make every Jew an Israeli? Is there a meaning to that at least two of the Jewish Nob
65 Newark727 : In Gaza, they have a pretty good case. There's not a lot besides Hamas left there, and if Israel responds to Hamas' efforts to consolidate its power
66 Post contains images PHX787 : ?????? Look how that worked in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2003. Unfortunately, this is my 4000th post....on an argument with some guy in Finland [Edited
67 caliatenza : who are the Israeli/Jewish terrorists, and no...the IDF doesnt count.
68 caliatenza : Okay how is Obama involved in this again???
69 pvjin : At the time when US troops invaded Iraq there already had been peace between Iraq and its neighbors for a longer tijme, they were there to destroy Sa
70 Post contains links cmf : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_religious_terrorism is a good start.
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