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Cancun During Spring Break: Safe Or Not Safe  
User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2796 posts, RR: 10
Posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2597 times:

Hi all -

I will be going to Cancun during spring break this year with some buddies despite the endless suggestions of other destinations to go - some friends just really wanted to go.

However, I am a little worried about safety, and not the safety of sexual assault or spiked drinks, but something more along the lines of drug cartel violence, kidnappings, and the works.

I'll be staying at the Marriott CasaMagna Resort, which should be within the "safe" tourist area.

However, knowing that a lot of Mexicans / very well traveled people are on this forum, I wanted to get your opinion on the safety of our trip.

Thanks,
Elite

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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17445 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2589 times:

Quoting Elite (Thread starter):
However, I am a little worried about safety, and not the safety of sexual assault or spiked drinks, but something more along the lines of drug cartel violence, kidnappings, and the works.

You should be about 1000x more worried about sexual assault/spiked drinks/falling off a balcony drunk/etc than the violence.



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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2796 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 1):

I know, but I wanted to seek specific advice regarding the violence in Mexico, and even just petty street crime like muggings, etc.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2549 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 1):
spiked drinks/falling off a balcony drunk/etc



Tha sounds like Pattaya.

Quoting Elite (Thread starter):
I am a little worried about safety, and not the safety of sexual assault



I've never heard of Mexican women sexually assaulting young men.

Quoting Elite (Thread starter):
drug cartel violence, kidnappings, and the works.


That's up in northern Mexico near the US boarder.

You may need to be more concerned about pick-pockets. My girlfriend was pick-pocket when we visited Cancun back in 2001.

[Edited 2013-01-27 09:35:25]


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19580 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

Quoting Elite (Reply 2):
I know, but I wanted to seek specific advice regarding the violence in Mexico, and even just petty street crime like muggings, etc.

Keep all documents in your safe in your hotel, especially your passport. Carry a photo ID, an ATM or credit card (that you have the phone number and account number written down separately) and some cash. That way, if you get mugged or pickpocketed, you are only minorly inconvenienced. Make sure you leave a backup credit card or ATM Card in your safe, or your trip will be ruined.

Don't drink anything that you didn't see poured/mixed yourself.

Keep your wits about you. Have a drink or two if you like, but do NOT get drunk. Drunk people are easy targets.

Violent crime is a problem in Mexico, but not nearly as big of a problem as say, car accidents.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

Doc is right.
Drink the beer from the bottles. It's the safest.
The Marriott CasaMagna Resort is a fine resort and if you want to get drunk, do it there on the resort premises so you can safely stumble back to your room. Don't go out walking the street or riding in taxis drunk.
The resort will also have clean, sterilized water ice cubes so that is the only place I would have a mixed drink.

If you get board of Cancun, you can always hop on a short flight on a Cubana Yak-42 over to Havana.  

[Edited 2013-01-27 10:24:31]


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User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1253 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

Probably around Cancun you will be just as safe as where ever in the US you live or even safer, indeed violence seems to be problem around areas near US border, I don't think rest of Mexico is any less safe than most areas in the US.

Even many Finnish travel agencies do package tours to Cancun and such tours are never offered to places that have any serious danger of violence / kidnapping etc. I've always felt way safer at all the places abroad that I've visited than in big Finnish cities during night when drunk & drug addict people with social problems are walking around the streets.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2498 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
Keep all documents in your safe in your hotel, especially your passport. Carry a photo ID, an ATM or credit card (that you have the phone number and account number written down separately) and some cash. That way, if you get mugged or pickpocketed, you are only minorly inconvenienced. Make sure you leave a backup credit card or ATM Card in your safe, or your trip will be ruined.

Don't drink anything that you didn't see poured/mixed yourself.

Good points to remember. From memory, Cancun at spring break is a little crazy noisy, but not necessarily dangerous. Most of the drug vioence is on the Pacific coast and towards the US border.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19580 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2494 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
The Marriott CasaMagna Resort is a fine resort and if you want to get drink, do it there on the resort premises so you can safely stumble back to your room. Don't go out walking the street or riding in taxis drunk.
The resort will also have clean, sterilized water ice cubes so that is the only place I would have a mixed drink.

Good points. The resorts will have the necessary security because they do not want an incident. Bad for the reputation and stuff...


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17445 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):


I've never heard of Mexican women sexually assaulting young men.

But fingers crossed!



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19580 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2456 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 9):
But fingers crossed!

   Where is the "like" button?  


User currently offlineJetsgo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3083 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

Cancun and Cozumel are both extremely safe. There's too many tourist dollars flowing into their local economy for them to just sit back and allow the cartel to run wild. Security at the resorts is no joke. Like when traveling anywhere else, use good judgement and you will have a great time.


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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6187 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2435 times:
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Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 11):
There's too many tourist dollars flowing into their local economy for them to just sit back and allow the cartel to run wild.

Besides, why shoot your golden goose? The dealers do a lot of business with the tourists, and in hard currency too.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2324 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 12):



Since Cubana has recently retired their IL-62, is Cancun now all Yak-42 or do they use the IL-96?
I flew their IL-62 from Cancun.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6187 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2320 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
Since Cubana has recently retired their IL-62, is Cancun now all Yak-42 or do they use the IL-96?
I flew their IL-62 from Cancun.

CUN-HAV they are doing A320.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 14):
CUN-HAV they are doing A320.

That sucks!  



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6187 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2306 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
That sucks!

Yup. It really does suck.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 16):
Yup. It really does suck.



On my trip to Cancun and Havana, we had an equipment sub. I had planned my trip to get the IL-62 going and the Yak-42D on the return. Instead of the Yak-42D, we got the same IL-62 we flew on to get there. It wasn't a huge disappointment. If it was a A320 sub, I would have gone ballistic!

In my report, I didn't spend too much time talking about Cancun. The place was everything I had expected but worse. Me & my girlfriend was ripped off big time in Cancun! I absolutely hated the place. It was mostly college aged spoiled brats. The only native Mexicans we saw were service workers at the hotels & restaurants. It was not the real Mexico at all. We were charged an entire week for a hotel we never stayed at and I was charged $150 for a phone call I was never able to get through when attempting to call my bank. The shady hotel we stayed at was next to the MTV Spring Break Headquarters and our room had a view of a giant speaker that was blaring out loud music. On top of that, our air conditioner blew hot air and leaked water on to the floor. The whole Cancun portion of our trip was a nightmare.
We had very little money between the two of us when we flew off to Cuba. My girlfriend at the time wanted to just go back home. Me being the risk-taker and all, we went forward with the planned trip to Cuba. Between the two of us, we only had $80 cash on us to last us for our two weeks in Cuba. We ended up making friends in Havana and we were able to barter for food and entertainment. I had bought a bunch of new shorts, t-shirts and sandals which still had price tags on them. The couple we made friends with were so happy to have brand new clothes from the United States. So they'd cooked for us, we went fishing with them a few times. We were able to provide them with soap, tissue paper and shampoo that that hotel provided for us. It was like we didn't even need money in Havana.
When we left, we had $25 between the two of us and that was ate up by the taxi from SFO to my house which was a 10 minute ride.
We ended up getting our money back but it took a month and that was funds we wanted to use on our vacation in Cuba. I was supposed to fly on a AN-24 on a domestic hop.

Sort of an odd report but it really begins are reply #48 ;

Cubana IL-62 Experience. Fantastic! (by Superfly Jun 18 2001 in Trip Reports)?threadid=9636&searchid=159840&s=Cubana+IL-62+Experience.+Fantastic%21+#ID159840

[Edited 2013-01-28 02:32:32]


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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2796 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 11):
Security at the resorts is no joke.

Out of curiosity - anyone know what security is in place at the Marriott CasaManga Resort?


User currently offlinegatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

Quoting Elite (Reply 18):

Out of curiosity - anyone know what security is in place at the Marriott CasaManga Resort?

Probably isn't public knowledge, but I stayed there in April '08 and felt completely safe. Echoing some of the previous posts, the drug cartels have zero interest in taking out tourists. That removes a prospective client and brings more unwanted international attention to the cartels.

Treat Cancun the way you would any other trip to a resort. Secure your belongings in your room and use good judgement. It's an awesome place



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User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1253 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2211 times:

Oh yeah if you start to feel any bored I too would recommend a nice trip to Cuba, so different and amazing place to visit with the friendliest people I've ever seen anywhere, some day I'm going to return there and travel around the country for a longer time.

I hope I could make a flight with Cubana Il-96 before they get replaced with some boring western stuff.



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User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2534 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2197 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
mostly college aged spoiled brats

Who appear to be stuck on stupid. I never witnessed so many people urinating out in public in my life. So drunk they urinated in the elevators, in front of a phone bank in the lobby of the hotel and right at the front desk! One hotel I went into had them urinating in artificial plants right in the lobby! Forget about hotel security---they are completely overwhelmed. Everywhere we went there was vomit and urine. And the accompanying odors. I would think the biggest risk of going to Cancun during spring break would be exposure to biohazards. You need tongs instead of hands to touch anything with. Forget walking poolside in bare feet.

Do take comfort in that you can expect to see hoards of Mexican Police and Soldiers at the ready. Americans make for big profits when arrested. The get-of-of-jail card costs mom and dad dearly and the local economy reaps all the benefits.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
I was charged $150 for a phone call

And especially beware of any payphones. Don't give them your credit card information! You will get a bill three months later for hundreds of dollars for a two minute call. If you must use a payphone purchase calling cards just for that purpose!
Beware!

I enjoy a good party, however, thousands of out-of-control drunken people is not my idea of fun. As I recall things get so bad that after spring break many of the hotels and resorts close down to clean-up, and repair from all the damage. The less expensive all-inclusives resorting to a complete refurbishment from furniture, and carpet, to drapes.

I think a side trip to Cuba makes much more sense!



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User currently offline777222LR From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 134 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2192 times:

Any place other than war hot zones are as safe as you make them. Just don't do anything stupid....and sexual assault on young men is very rare....and depending on what you look like, may be even rarer for you.

User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17445 posts, RR: 46
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2176 times:

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 21):
Who appear to be stuck on stupid. I never witnessed so many people urinating out in public in my life. So drunk they urinated in the elevators, in front of a phone bank in the lobby of the hotel and right at the front desk! One hotel I went into had them urinating in artificial plants right in the lobby! Forget about hotel security---they are completely overwhelmed. Everywhere we went there was vomit and urine. And the accompanying odors. I would think the biggest risk of going to Cancun during spring break would be exposure to biohazards. You need tongs instead of hands to touch anything with. Forget walking poolside in bare feet.

   I really can't fathom how Americans are still worried about going to CUN. There's just zero reason behind it. They think Mexico is unsafe so they'll go to the Caribbean instead, where the murder rate makes Mexico look like Winnepeg. Or maybe a staycation in Chicago, where people are assaulted on the L on a regular basis, never mind the record shootings.

Quoting gatorman96 (Reply 19):
Echoing some of the previous posts, the drug cartels have zero interest in taking out tourists

   The vast majority of drugs are going to Americans, and if the cartels can sell to them without crossing the border, that makes life easier for them. Scaring their customers is bad for business.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2168 times:

Quoting pvjin (Reply 20):
I hope I could make a flight with Cubana Il-96 before they get replaced with some boring western stuff.

Not going to happen. Their three IL-96s are brand new and will be around for a long time.

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 21):
And especially beware of any payphones. Don't give them your credit card information!

I never gave my credit card information to any payphone. I used a calling card to make call from my hotel room but the hotel which had my card number ripped me off. I had changed my hotel an entire day in advance and had confirmation. I was ripped off by two legitimate hotels. I eventually got my money back but it was after the trip.
It's not just the drunken college coeds that get ripped off. Lots of innocent travellers that just want to relax and enjoy the sun & beach get ripped off an awful lot.
This was back in 2001. I learned a lot on that trip.

Quoting 777222LR (Reply 22):
and depending on what you look like, may be even rarer for you.

  



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25 pvjin : Well that's great to hear, I somehow imagined if embargo was ever lifted they would quickly get some A330's or something for better fuel economy, but
26 Marcus : What you really need to worry about are the "Time share" salesmen....they are worse than used car salesmen.
27 moose135 : If you go for a haircut while you are down there, bring the barber a snowglobe just to be on the safe side.
28 connies4ever : Winnipeg, actually. But hey, we just had our 1st homicide of 2013 on the 25th, so maybe things are looking up. Last year there were 39, which was a r
29 AR385 : The ABSOLUTE worst time of the year to go to Cancún. It´s not dangerous. "Little crazy noisy" is a huge understatement though. The place is racousl
30 EMBQA : I've been to Cancun 4 times over the last two years. It's an awesome place to visit. The people are wonderful and so much to see and do. The further o
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