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Public Drinking Fountains In Your Country?  
User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5965 posts, RR: 27
Posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2306 times:
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I was tinkering around with the drinking fountain in my classroom today (my workplace) and I began thinking about how common drinking fountains are in the USA and Canada. You can't go to any public building without seeing them. They are usually in the hallway near the restrooms. It isn't just public buildings either, I have been in many private buildings, factories, and other buildings that have them. This isn't a new or old thing either. I have been in buildings that are 100 plus years old and the water fountain looks old too, the one in my church was installed in the 1890s. Modern buildings have fancy new wheelchair accessible fountains. My favorite type is the pedal operated refrigerated models.

The only one I ever saw in Europe was at AMS and I only ever saw one. Last time I was there I made a joke about it being the only public drinking fountain in the EU. I saw a dog water fountain at the zoo in Halle, Germany

A few questions:

1.) Why are drinking fountains so common in North America and not in Europe?
2.) Do you see drinking fountains in your country?
3.) What do you call them? I have heard them called a bubbler in parts of Canada, Wisconsin and Minnesota.

Personally I like the things. When I travel in Europe I get tired of having to buy water, when I can get it free at home.


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User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3592 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

I see them around Greece all the time, although sometimes they don't work. ATH has them around the airport too and you will find them in schools, public buildings and some private offices too.

User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7633 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2276 times:
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There used to be some in STN oddly enough, not sure if they're still around - really haven't paid them any attention!


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2273 times:

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
2.) Do you see drinking fountains in your country?
3.) What do you call them? I have heard them called a bubbler in parts of Canada, Wisconsin and Minnesota.

Locally here in Portland, we have Benson Bubblers:

http://www.portlandoregon.gov/shared/cfm/image.cfm?id=384632




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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11128 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 3):
Benson Bubblers:

They first bubbled out beer, IIRC. People who don't know get grossed out when I just start sipping from a Benson Bubbler. It is water. Get over it.

We have to pack our own water here in the Bay Area. So few places to get water. Or, pay $2 for a tiny bottle of water.



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User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2107 times:

In the UK they're not common at all, at least not where I live. I can't say they'd ever catch on here either - too many Health and Safety nuts going crazy about how unclean they could be.

User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5965 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2064 times:
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Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 5):
In the UK they're not common at all

In the UK I get funny looks when I want tap water (but not nearly as funny of a look as I get in Germany). So I could imagine a public water fountain would get little use and strange looks.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 4):
We have to pack our own water here in the Bay Area. So few places to get water

I never had any trouble finding a drinking fountain in San Francisco, not out on the street, but inside of buildings.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 4):
I just start sipping from a Benson Bubbler. It is water. Get over it.

There is a big one of those at the zoo in St. Louis, MO. It is rather popular.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 4):
They first bubbled out beer

That must be what heaven is like.  



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User currently offlineAF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2059 times:

In Paris they are still quite common but less and less so.

There are two types: potable water fountains in the street and potal water taps in public garden.

http://www.routard.com/images_conten...aute/photos/publi/147/pt146945.jpg (the kind you find in public gardens)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Fontaine_Wallace_St-Sulpice_00.JPG (the kind you find in the streets)

But I seem to see less and less of them around.



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User currently onlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2050 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2055 times:

In Basel, we have about 170 public fountains. Thirty of them are of this kind:




At the bottom, they even have a bowl where dogs can drink.

There are two reasons why there are a lot of fountains. In the middle ages, when a fire broke out, the only possibility of putting out the fire was passing water buckets along a chain of people, and so the next fountain may not be far away.

And on the countryside, we have this kind of fountain: http://www.volksstimme.ch/sites/vol/files/bika_brunnen_breit.JPG

Long, made from stone, wide, so that the cows could drink there when they were goaded back from the pastures.


David



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User currently offlinekngkyle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 368 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2036 times:

I use them all the time. 99% of the time the water is just as good as bottled water, and free. The people who find any water other than bottled water to be unsanitary are a little nuts. Plus half of all bottled water is just tap water put in a bottle and called 'filtered'. Is tap water in Europe not of the same quality as in the US?

The water infrastructure for Chicago is pretty impressive. Boasting the largest capacity water purification plant in the world, largest capacity water treatment plant in the world, and probably one of, if not the largest sewage and runoff reservoir and tunnel system.

I know I'm getting a little off topic here, but the Chicago Deep Tunnel project is a huge infrastructure project that pretty much nobody knows about, and so I've found it rather fascinating. It's been under construction for 40 years, wont be complete for another 15, and has cost billions and billions of dollars. It consists of over 130 miles of tunnels up to 35 feet in diameter at depths of up to 400 feet below ground. It's designed to prevent any storm runoff or sewage from spilling into Lake Michigan or the Chicago River when there are floods, which taints the water supply for ~10 million people. The tunnels lead to one of the multiple reservoirs that hold the water until the treatment plants can catch up.

One of the reservoirs: (highway cuts in the middle of it)


Mining the tunnels:


Finished tunnel:


Construction entrance:


[Edited 2013-01-30 08:05:29]

User currently offlineFallap From Denmark, joined Jan 2009, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

I've never seen one public in Denmark.

User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2019 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 6):
n the UK I get funny looks when I want tap water (but not nearly as funny of a look as I get in Germany). So I could imagine a public water fountain would get little use and strange looks.

Usually in pubs they don't really care (although it's always free by law) but I can see why some people in other places may find it a little strange.

Quoting kngkyle (Reply 9):

I use them all the time. 99% of the time the water is just as good as bottled water, and free. The people who find any water other than bottled water to be unsanitary are a little nuts. Plus half of all bottled water is just tap water put in a bottle and called 'filtered'. Is tap water in Europe not of the same quality as in the US?

Eh, depends. Some European countries have pretty good water, some.... not so much. Greece has very hard water and if you live in a country with soft water you can get pretty bad stomach problems. UK residents are warned by everybody before they go abroad to Spain and Greece (at least, not sure about anywhere else) NEVER to drink the water, always buy bottled.

I can vouch for that, drank the water in Spain once by accident = afternoon on the throne. Never do that again 


User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5965 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1975 times:
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Quoting kngkyle (Reply 9):
Plus half of all bottled water is just tap water put in a bottle and called 'filtered'.

I know that Aquafina bottled in Detroit is city tap water that is filtered.

Quoting kngkyle (Reply 9):
Is tap water in Europe not of the same quality as in the US?

It isn't the same everywhere in the USA. I have drank it everywhere, but some places it tastes better than others

Quoting kngkyle (Reply 9):
One of the reservoirs: (highway cuts in the middle of it)

That is I 80/I 294. I drive over that a few times a year when I go through that area. I didn't know what was going on there. I thought that was a quarry of some sort.

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 11):
drank the water in Spain once by accident = afternoon on the throne. Never do that again

When I travel I usually drink too much and eat too much so I never really know why I'm on the throne a lot for sure.

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 8):
In Basel, we have about 170 public fountains. Thirty of them are of this kind:

I saw those there, very cool.



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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8524 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1942 times:

I have not used a public drinking fountain since high school. I shudder at the thought. I always carried a thermos bottle to work before bottled water came along.


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User currently offlineSkydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 932 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

Doesn't bother me to drink from water fountains; they are BPA-free.

And I still remember when airplanes had water fountains. Like L-1011 and B747-100.




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User currently offlinenickh From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1910 times:
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Quoting falstaff (Reply 12):

I know that Aquafina bottled in Detroit is city tap water that is filtered.

The Aquafina bottled water that I have purchased here in Houston, clearly states "City of Houston Municipal Water Supply, processed through Reverse Osmosis and Activated Carbon Filtered".

As far as I know, according to federal law, if the bottled water says "Spring Water" or "Natural Spring Water", then the manufacturer is required to label the source of the "natural springs" that the water was collected from.

For example, I am looking at a bottle of Ozarka Natural Spring Water, and it states:
Only from Carefully Selected Natural Springs, and "A Blend of Piney Woods Springs, Wood County, TX, and/or Moffit Springs, Walker County, TX, and/or Roher Springs, Henderson County, TX".

I'll drink tap water also, but the spring water just tastes a little better - maybe it's the chlorine and whatever else that is in the municipal water supply. For cooking, I use water from my fridge, which has a Culligan carbon filter, which does a good job in removing some of the distaste.

Another thing - I have seen a lot of people spitting into public water fountains. That has turned me off to drinking from them.

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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8524 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1907 times:

Quoting nickh (Reply 15):
Another thing - I have seen a lot of people spitting into public water fountains. That has turned me off to drinking from them.

There are some sick puppies out there. In fact maybe I am insulting dogs by comparing them to some people.



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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1893 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 12):
It isn't the same everywhere in the USA. I have drank it everywhere, but some places it tastes better than others


Taste is not an indicator of quality.

I don't see many public fountains outside of building here. A few in the park where I run and each of those has a bowl for the dogs. The zoo has one that for some reason is popular and people like to take pictures.

I always have water with me. I carry a 24oz bottle around that I refill when I get the chance. I don't drink anything carbonated anymore, except beer.



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User currently onlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2050 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1858 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 12):
Quoting nickh (Reply 15):

Here, most if not all bottled water is actually natural, mineral water. There are sources in Adelboden, Henniez, Aproz, Vals, Eptingen.

I would never ever buy water that I can get from the tap and whose only improvement is reverse osmosis and filtration. Just too expensive IMHO.

I only buy bottled water when hiking (can't stand Coke while doing that), and I often fill used bottles with homebrewed peppermint tea.

David



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User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 11):
When I travel I usually drink too much and eat too much so I never really know why I'm on the throne a lot for sure.

  My kind of trip.

Spanish and Greek tap water (and French as well, at least in Southern France) can't be drank by people who live in the UK because there's bacteria in it that we just aren't used to and it causes problems. Nothing bad per se, it just upsets a lot of people's gut and causes the aforementioned toilet visit.

I went to Nice last July and only drank bottled anyway. It was €1 for a 2l bottle so I didn't mind paying it. When it's €2 for a 500ml bottle, that's when I begrudge it.

[Edited 2013-01-31 01:38:34]

User currently offlineRara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2010 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1807 times:

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 11):
Eh, depends. Some European countries have pretty good water, some.... not so much. Greece has very hard water and if you live in a country with soft water you can get pretty bad stomach problems.

That sounds a little dubious to be honest. Hard water is just water with a bit of calcium in it, but not more than you'd get in a beer or something. Why would anyone get stomach problems from a bit of calcium?

Stomach problems are nearly always associated with bacteria. This may be a bit more common in Southern Europe than in Northern Europe, because it's generally warmer in the south, and bacteria would spread more easily. Then again, Germany has problems with bacteria in the water regularly in the summer months. People are asked to thoroughly boil the water in this case, and use bottled water for baby food.

Still, if you're in Greece or Spain and get the runs, chances are you ate something bad rather than drink something bad. In Africa or India it's a different story..



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User currently onlineflipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1551 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1790 times:
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Quoting kngkyle (Reply 9):
Finished tunnel:

is this before or after Bruce Willis has been through?

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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8617 posts, RR: 43
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1786 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 6):
not nearly as funny of a look as I get in Germany

Ah, one of my favourite German paradoxes: have what is possibly the safest drink on earth right at your fingertips and then go out and buy less well-controlled bottled water.    And don't get me started on sparkling water...

Quoting Skydrol (Reply 14):
And I still remember when airplanes had water fountains. Like L-1011 and B747-100.
LH's A346s have fountains on the lower deck, in the waiting area for the lavatories (one to fill up with liquid, the other to drain it). They are, however, designed to be used with paper cups.

[Edited 2013-01-31 03:58:58]


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User currently offlineAF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

When I drink water (which is a lot rarer than it should be) I usually drink tap water.

The problem in Paris is not so much the water itself at the source as its quality is one of the best in Europe - but rather the pipes it goes through at the very end of the system (i.e. pipes in your building and your apartment).

Central-Paris buildings were mostly built in the 1900's so the pipes in them are maybe out of led. You can see how led in the water might become a problem...

If the buildings are relatively modern, or the pipes have been changed (which is the case in most of Paris, maybe apart from the northeastern quarters 18th, 19th and 20th arrondissement); then you have strictly no problem.

Funny story about this. My father lives in Rio de Janeiro (Brazil) and when I was young and I went to visit him one day, I took a glass and helped myself to some tap water, and started drinking it. My sisters were closeby and yelled "noooooooo". I as a kid thought that this was safe to do anywhere and everywhere, ahah.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1762 times:

No drinking fountains here in Thailand. Luckily the bottled water is dirt cheap here.


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1787 posts, RR: 2
Reply 25, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1807 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 12):
I know that Aquafina bottled in Detroit is city tap water that is filtered.

Aquafina and Dansani are the 2 largest filtered water companies. As stated earlier if it says purified or filtered its from the public water source. It should be noted that the US has the among the cleanest public water in the world. The water from public sources is heavily regulated and is required to be tested for pathogens daily.

Quoting Skydrol (Reply 14):
And I still remember when airplanes had water fountains. Like L-1011 and B747-100.

Drinking water from an airplane, I would frown upon. Water held in a tank that is sanitized at best 1 time a year not something I want to drink,



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 26, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1781 times:

Quoting kngkyle (Reply 9):
I know I'm getting a little off topic here, but the Chicago Deep Tunnel project is a huge infrastructure project that pretty much nobody knows about,




Is that the rock quarry near Calumet City just south of Chicago were I-94 cuts through?
I passed that place millions of times when we used to live there.



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7917 posts, RR: 12
Reply 27, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

Quoting kngkyle (Reply 9):
Is tap water in Europe not of the same quality as in the US?

Depends on where you are, but since quality of tap water differs in the U.S. as well, I dare say both regions are on par.

Quoting Rara (Reply 20):
Germany has problems with bacteria in the water regularly in the summer months. People are asked to thoroughly boil the water in this case, and use bottled water for baby food.

When, where? I am in the mid-40s, and I cannot recall of ever having been asked to "thoroughly boil the water". I see you're from Berlin; I spent 12 years in Berlin, and only once they had to chlorinate tap water to be safe.
Now I have been living south of Munich for the last 5 years, and - again - tap water was chlorinated only once for about a week. No words having to boil the water.

Those were the only times I bought bottled water.

As for the original question: There are some in Germany, but they are indeed pretty uncommon.



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User currently offlinekngkyle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 368 posts, RR: 1
Reply 28, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 26):
Is that the rock quarry near Calumet City just south of Chicago were I-94 cuts through?
I passed that place millions of times when we used to live there.

Yep. They're nearly done mining it and it will be used as a reservoir once finished. It's 1.5 miles long, 0.5 miles wide, and 400 feet deep and will hold 7.9 billion gallons.

[Edited 2013-01-31 10:31:50]

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 29, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Quoting kngkyle (Reply 28):
Yep. They're nearly done mining it and it will be used as a reservoir once finished.



I remember passing that huge gaping hole back in the 1970s & 80s. I had no idea it was to store water. What's taking them so long? 

I'd love to go down there soon before it's filled up.

Quoting kngkyle (Reply 9):
pretty much nobody knows about


Thousands of people drive over it per day.



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User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3592 posts, RR: 5
Reply 30, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 11):
Greece has very hard water and if you live in a country with soft water you can get pretty bad stomach problems. UK residents are warned by everybody before they go abroad to Spain and Greece (at least, not sure about anywhere else) NEVER to drink the water, always buy bottled.

That is only the case on islands, especially the smaller ones that rely on water shipments or desalination plants. The mainland, including Athens, has very good quality of water, not harder than what I was drinking back in southeast England.


User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 31, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1747 times:

Quoting Rara (Reply 20):
That sounds a little dubious to be honest. Hard water is just water with a bit of calcium in it, but not more than you'd get in a beer or something. Why would anyone get stomach problems from a bit of calcium?

Stomach problems are nearly always associated with bacteria. This may be a bit more common in Southern Europe than in Northern Europe, because it's generally warmer in the south, and bacteria would spread more easily. Then again, Germany has problems with bacteria in the water regularly in the summer months. People are asked to thoroughly boil the water in this case, and use bottled water for baby food.

Still, if you're in Greece or Spain and get the runs, chances are you ate something bad rather than drink something bad. In Africa or India it's a different story..

I don't know, but after my Spanish experience with bad water I wasn't willing to take the chance again in Greece  Bottled water in Greece is regulated by the Government I believe (price wise) so it was dirt cheap. We probably spent €15 in the week we were there. We were warned not to drink it, and I duly obliged. I have a cast-iron stomach - not a lot upsets it and I ended up ill in Spain.

Quoting lewis (Reply 30):
That is only the case on islands, especially the smaller ones that rely on water shipments or desalination plants. The mainland, including Athens, has very good quality of water, not harder than what I was drinking back in southeast England.

That would explain it then - We went to Zakynthos  I've never been to the Greek mainland so I can't comment but the water in Zakynthos was very hard.


User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5965 posts, RR: 27
Reply 32, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1692 times:
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Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 25):
Water held in a tank that is sanitized at best 1 time a year not something I want to drink,

I bet they sanitize it more often than once a year. I know back in the 1990s I worked with some private railroad passenger cars and the tanks for the water coolers had to be inspected/cleaned on a regular basis. I didn't work with that system, so I don't recall the specifics, but I know it was done.

A few years ago I was on a NW DC-9 flight and the coffee was BAD!!!! I am not a coffee snob so when I say it was bad I mean it. When we got to DTW the were draining the water tank(s) on the ramp. I wasn't sure that is what they were doing so I snapped a photo of it and posted it on a.net to be sure. I didn't get sick or anything, it just tasted like it had some gunk in it. I bet it had some sanitizer in it that wasn't rinsed out all the way. I have had beer at a bar with soap in the glass, because somebody washed the glass, but didn't rinse it.



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User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

Plenty of "bubblers" in Sydney Australia, although they do tend to be regularly vandalised. Newer playground and public facilities are starting to have filtered water points, although our tap water here is probably better than some imported bottled water.

User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1787 posts, RR: 2
Reply 34, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1600 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 32):
I bet they sanitize it more often than once a year. I know back in the 1990s I worked with some private railroad passenger cars and the tanks for the water coolers had to be inspected/cleaned on a regular basis. I didn't work with that system, so I don't recall the specifics, but I know it was done.
http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=EPA-HQ-OW-2005-0025-0005

So according to this proposal the regulation is for every 5 years to be sanitized. They also detected that 15% of aircraft have tested positive for pathogens.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 35, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1589 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 32):
I have had beer at a bar with soap in the glass, because somebody washed the glass, but didn't rinse it.


That is why I prefer to drink beer directly from the bottle.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 32):
A few years ago I was on a NW DC-9 flight and the coffee was BAD!!!!



On my Northwest DC-9 flight, I had vodka with orange juice (screwdriver).
It was a morning flight.



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User currently offlineRara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2010 posts, RR: 2
Reply 36, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 27):
When, where? I am in the mid-40s, and I cannot recall of ever having been asked to "thoroughly boil the water". I see you're from Berlin; I spent 12 years in Berlin, and only once they had to chlorinate tap water to be safe.
Now I have been living south of Munich for the last 5 years, and - again - tap water was chlorinated only once for about a week. No words having to boil the water.

Those were the only times I bought bottled water.

Three instances I remember just from the last two years:

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/ich-dusche-hier-nicht/7170450.html
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/wa...andauer-schmutzquelle/4449220.html
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/spur-der-keime/4399858.html

I also remember this from other regions in Germany where I lived as child. It happens.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 37, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1548 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 25):
As stated earlier if it says purified or filtered its from the public water source. It should be noted that the US has the among the cleanest public water in the world. The water from public sources is heavily regulated and is required to be tested for pathogens daily.

If our former esteemed member Logan22L was still around, I'm sure he'd have a few words to say about this.  

He's the one who convinced me years ago that just plain tap water is generally perfectly safe in the U.S. I barely even bothered using a Brita filter for the cold water bottle in the fridge any longer after that, but our water here in the PNW is generally clear and has no overly-chlorinated taste to it. Someone else in the water business had before explained to me that once carbon filters reach their saturation point, they begin to leech contaminants back into the filtered water, since they've nowhere else to go.



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User currently onlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2050 posts, RR: 13
Reply 38, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1524 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 37):

He's the one who convinced me years ago that just plain tap water is generally perfectly safe in the U.S.

And I'm the one who thinks water from creeks is generally perfectly safe... if there are cow/sheep/horse pastures upstream, or if the water isn't clear, don't drink it. I never had diarrhea from that water.

My current work is about protozoa infections. One of them are cryptosporidia which naturally occur in (tap) water, but they rarely reach numbers where they cause diarrhea. They are nearly impossible to kill using chlorine, but one can still filter or boil the water.

Only immunocompromised people should get intestinal problems from tap water as it is used in Europe and the U.S..



David



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User currently offlineRara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2010 posts, RR: 2
Reply 39, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1438 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 37):
Someone else in the water business had before explained to me that once carbon filters reach their saturation point, they begin to leech contaminants back into the filtered water, since they've nowhere else to go.

They really do. We use one of these filters for our tea water, since our tab water here is so chalky. If I don't change the filter for a while, the tea we make shows these annoying chalk pieces again.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5946 posts, RR: 30
Reply 40, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1396 times:
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Quoting Rara (Reply 20):
Why would anyone get stomach problems from a bit of calcium?

Stomach problems, hardly. Over time it will cause Kidney problems, such as stones. Due to the mountaious area where I live, which are mainly made of Calcium Carbonate the water is very hard. We boil the water here and the amount of chalky stuff that precipitates after the boiling is really stunning.



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