Hell, no surprise here; Jim Nabors and Rock Hudson had a "torrid" romance going for years there, until it "got out", and Rock started getting "cold feet" about his career. When asked about it in later years, Doris Day (who was "leading lady" in many of Rock's movies), said it was no secret at all in Hollywood.
We used to watch "Gomer Pyle" all the time; Nabors was hilarious in that show, but in later years, when the Indianapolis Motor Speedway used to have him sing "Back Home In Indiana" at the Indy, before the race started, it was so bad it used to make my coon hound howl ! And it wasn't that Jim Nabors couldn't sing........he could actually sing pretty good; it was that terrible song ! (Even Ezio Pinza was booed when he tried to sing the thing!)
Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
connies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (10 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 869 times:
Kind of reminds me of the reaction to Anderson Cooper outing himself: yawn.
Who's business is it anyway what orientation someone has ? I am quite sure during my career at AECL I worked with either gay or lesbian staff. My only criterion regarding staff was: can they do the job effectively ? Even before more recent legislation I would never have presumed to enquire as to orientation.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 11411 posts, RR: 24 Reply 10, posted (10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 844 times:
Quoting Ken777 (Reply 8): I wish him & his partner well and many more years together.
Quoting connies4ever (Reply 9): Who's business is it anyway what orientation someone has ? I am quite sure during my career at AECL I worked with either gay or lesbian staff. My only criterion regarding staff was: can they do the job effectively ? Even before more recent legislation I would never have presumed to enquire as to orientation.
I agree. Things change a bit because he's a celebrity - by our nature and theirs we do comment on them. In my case I commented mainly because he played a Marine back when the general public presumed most were straight, even though his Gomer character was far from macho.
In the entertainment industry it can matter - just look at Rock Hudson. He made his success getting the ladies to fall in love with him. If he had come out in the middle of his career it would have been the end of his career. Fortunately Gomer was not one the ladies were swooning over.
It matters not in most of the Western world. The USofA, however, it is still a huge deal.
Marriage between same gender individuals is legal in a few states. In those states, how has that worstened the marriages between opposite gender individuals? How has the lives of the hetero families been deminished by the homo families?
3DoorsDown From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 375 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 627 times:
I think gay marriage only matters to the press. Not because they are for it so much, but because the press is so lame @## these days, if they can't stir up controversy they have no other means to come up with a story. I live in Seattle and can testify that I was 0% affected by another gay marriage. More power to them.
Because much of cable TV and AM radio are controlled by far right wing talkers, it is a big deal to many people. In Montana, for example. Or far northern California. In cities like Boston or SF, things like this do not matter. It is consenting adults signing a state issued contract and nothing more. But, in places like Williston, ND, it is an affront and attack on rights of the American people.
Here is the issue I see:
People in Boston and SF have access to alternative sources of information. Williston, ND however, have fewer alternative sources. If Rush and FOX say the sky is red, people in Williston would tend to believe it because they have not that much to go on. However, if Rush and FOX say the sky is red, people in SF discuss with others, listen to the one, half "liberal" radio station, read, and determine the sky is, indeed, blue. It really has nothing to do with the intelligence of people in small town America, but with what information they are given and if they choose to research or not. More often than not, sadly, they choose not to research.
Gay marriage (shouldn't it be "marriage" anyway?) is a wedge issue. It sells papers and gets people to watch FOX. If we would understand that each state has it's own criteria for consenting adults to enter into this particular contract, people would not really care. But, it is, apparently, a national issue.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 11411 posts, RR: 24 Reply 16, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 570 times:
Quoting seb146 (Reply 15): People in Boston and SF have access to alternative sources of information. Williston, ND however, have fewer alternative sources.
Indeed, that's why I wish you said it was an issue in PARTS of the US.
Lack of multiple sources of information is an issue for many many issues not just LGBT marriage.
I have a Pakistani friend and he tells me the main reason the territories on the Afghan border are so hard core Islamist is simply because the main source of not just information but also education is the local Imam, and the Imams who are willing to minister to those areas are usually extremists.
Given all of this, I would not be too glum. The one thing I've seen in my life of over half a century now is that information is so much easier to get, and is improving steadily year by year. We see the poorer elements of worldwide society having access to increasingly smarter mobile phones and satellite TVs powered by solar panels. It's a vast change even over the last twenty years. Ironically, much of the key technology development was funded to a large degree by those same US taxpayers that you are so unhappy with.
Quoting seb146 (Reply 15): Gay marriage (shouldn't it be "marriage" anyway?) is a wedge issue. It sells papers and gets people to watch FOX.
I think we've hit a tipping point. More and more state level initiatives, and the President of the USA saying that he's in favor of it for the first time are good signs.