STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16261 posts, RR: 52 Posted (3 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 662 times:
Breaking news now that former NYC Mayor Ed Koch has died, for those of us who lived in NYC during his tenure he was instrumental in leading the city out of the bad old days of "Ford to NYC Drop Dead" to the 1980s when Wall Street started NYC's comeback. There was definitely a stumble in NYC's rebirth after Koch during the Dinkin's administration, however Giuliani later picked back up on the NYC transformation that Koch had started. His famous line was always "How am I'm doin?", to me he did great.
Dreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 7783 posts, RR: 22 Reply 1, posted (3 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 642 times:
Quoting STT757 (Thread starter): Breaking news now that former NYC Mayor Ed Koch has died, for those of us who lived in NYC during his tenure he was instrumental in leading the city out of the bad old days of "Ford to NYC Drop Dead" to the 1980s when Wall Street started NYC's comeback.
I wonder if there is a lesson here about what happens when a government spends itself to oblivion, asks for bail-outs and is told strictly and emphatically "NO".
Darksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 981 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (3 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 639 times:
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 1):
I wonder if there is a lesson here about what happens when a government spends itself to oblivion, asks for bail-outs and is told strictly and emphatically "NO".
What? That you'll die wealthily of old age one day?
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Dreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 7783 posts, RR: 22 Reply 3, posted (3 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 631 times:
Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 2): What? That you'll die wealthily of old age one day?
That the shock being told, not only no, but Hell No, can get people to wake up and smell the coffee, and make required, if unpopular changes in their lives (or the city) to get back on their feet.
Darksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 981 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (3 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 624 times:
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
That the shock being told, not only no, but Hell No, can get people to wake up and smell the coffee, and make required, if unpopular changes in their lives (or the city) to get back on their feet.
Sure, man. Now how is that at all related to dying peacefully of old age?
Looks like he did a lot of really great things for NYC & I certainly understand how many will regard this as a sad day.
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STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16261 posts, RR: 52 Reply 5, posted (3 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 616 times:
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 1): I wonder if there is a lesson here about what happens when a government spends itself to oblivion, asks for bail-outs and is told strictly and emphatically "NO".
Maybe your not aware but despite that headline NYC eventually got their bailout, and have done quite well ever since. The Federal Government also earned interest on the loan.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 10471 posts, RR: 20 Reply 6, posted (3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 610 times:
Ed Koch was an excellent mayor and an interesting guy to boot.
He is responsible for me drinking my coffee black. Someone was interviewing him and they asked him why he drank his coffee black and he said "When I drink coffee, I want to taste coffee, not milk and sugar!". That very day I tried coffee black for the first time after years of "regular" and that was it, no more "regular". I guess once you've had black, you never go back!
He was also fairly well known for telling people to "f*** off" when they asked him questions he thought were too personal.
slider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6518 posts, RR: 37 Reply 8, posted (3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 574 times:
Koch was one of a kind...a real leader who was a personable genuine man.
I can only imagine how herculean it is to be the Mayor of NYC, but he should be applauded for so much positive reform that occurred under his watch. It's just a damn shame Nanny Bloomberg is tyrannically dismantling it.
Ken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7460 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (3 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 536 times:
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 1): I wonder if there is a lesson here about what happens when a government spends itself to oblivion, asks for bail-outs and is told strictly and emphatically "NO".
IIRC for Ed Koch it resulted in him raising taxes. Wasn't he the Mayor who brought in City Income Taxes?
Quoting STT757 (Reply 5): The Federal Government also earned interest on the loan.
Of course it did. Just like they made big dollars on the original Chrysler bailout.
The government is actually pretty good at extracting interest & fees.
FlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1625 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 318 times:
Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9): IIRC for Ed Koch it resulted in him raising taxes. Wasn't he the Mayor who brought in City Income Taxes?
Yep
He also spent millions on renovating the projects, hiring more police, and other civil projects in NYC.
ImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1230 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 257 times:
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