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In The Market For New Tablet...Which One?  
User currently offlinecorinthians From United States of America, joined May 2008, 340 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2212 times:

I currently have an old Asus Transformer. It's good, but has become really sluggish lately. I'm considering one of these three options: Asus Transformer Infinity (Best Buy sometimes has really good deals with this, but I keep missing them), the new iPad 64GB version and a Windows 8 tablet, but not an RT version and not the Surface Pro.

I am a techie and pretty familiar with all three operating systems and I know each has their own advantages and disadvantages. With the iPad, it has the most,best and most functional apps, but the OS is limiting (unless jailbroken), there is no way of expanding memory, I am not a fan of the iOS multitasking method and it is expensive. With the Asus Transformer, it is highly customizable and you have lots of apps, but the apps aren't anywhere near as good as iOS apps, you don't have as many games (I'm a gamer, too) and Android is fragmented. And, of course, there's Windows 8. I love the tile concept and the fact that it can run old Windows programs, but there are practically no Windows 8 apps and it seems a little buggy. Not to mention, Windows 8 Pro tablets apparently have brutal battery life.

In a nutshell, this will replace my laptop. I found that my old Asus Transformer could do most of what I needed to do on my laptop and I can imagine the newer tablets will be even better because they're faster. I have a desktop for the big, big tasks.

Any suggestions? Or any tablets you have and I have not listed that you would recommend?

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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4167 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2211 times:

I've grown quite fond of the Samsung tablet range lately.

Having had both iPad 2 and iPad mini, i'm starting to find apple products a little boring and limiting.

Now, I am no techie, so please understand I am saying this purely from that standpoint!  



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

I have a Nexus 7 and I'm quite fond of it. Hopefully with the expanding popularity of Android tablets the app disparity will begin to decrease. Right now that's Apple's biggest advantage.

User currently offlineBoeing717200 From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 831 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2179 times:

I'm actually liking my Kindle Fire HD. I had an iPad and it got drop checked. When I went to replace it I took a good long look at what I actually used it for because of cost. That was one expensive drop check. It turned out it was web, email, reading, a few games and AV remotes. All the work was being done on the windows machines. What was missing on the kindle was a way to access all my music. Then they launched the cloud and the gap was filled. We have amazon Prime that also gets us tons of current movies we can watch everywhere. I lost a handful of iTunes movies that came as digital copies, but they weren't iTunes purchases. My wife loves her droid phone so she won't have to make the change to apple mobile products that we were leaning toward and WAF is huge.

The downside is its not a retina, and those look sweet, but it does what I need for a lot less. I don't miss the iPad..

Tried a surface too. Call me old school but I just can't get used to the tiles. I put 8 on the desktop at home and I always go right to the desktop. Just give us the option Microsoft! It's a stinking desktop! That and stick to what you do best. Your mobile products leave much to be desired.

The ultimate device would probably be a bombproof and slightly larger KindleFire with expandable storage and an iTunes app. The later will never happen, but like I said, for me the gap was filed.

Best advice. Buy the product that streamlines what you do with your products.

[Edited 2013-02-08 15:27:19]

User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2786 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2173 times:
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I have the iPad mini so I couldn't tell you about the larger one but the interface I like a lot. I had the original iPad but it was becoming sluggish and I really wanted the 4G LTE option. I really enjoy the mini. The siri option is great and the tablet overall runs smooth. Having the ability to use the wireless nearly where ever you are is very convenient as well. It has a forward facing camera which is nice if you want to use skype or Facetime. I'm almost positive all the features I have mentioned are available on the larger iPad. Great for note taking as well.
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User currently onlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2157 times:

Particularly when you're replacing your laptop with it, the quality of the app selection will be important.

This, the Retina Display and its 4:3 format are strong arguments for the iPad from my point of view (the narrower display formats are not suited well for either portrait or landscape use, apart from watching movies where it doesn't matter).


User currently offlinecorinthians From United States of America, joined May 2008, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2120 times:

Some really good answers! I heard some really good things about the Kindle Fire and Nexus 7. Actually, one of my coworkers, who had an ipad, switched to the Nexus 7 and she hasn't looked back. She is an Apple fan girl, too. I think that is a little too small for me, though, and I prefer something around 10 inches wide.

I have nothing against the ipad, per se, but I don't like the fact that you have to jailbreak to have some of the basic functionalities that an Android tablet would have (themeing, file search, etc.). That being said, when you do jailbreak the ipad, all bets are off. Some of the setups and themes I have seen on YouTube are simply incredible. But again, iPad apps blow everything else out of the water. Android is catching up, though.

Also checked out the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. Looks like a really good device and I like the split screen app switching feature. I wish it had a good keyboard dock like the Asus Transformer, though. I have a Samsung Galaxy S 3 and love it, so I know that Samsung makes some really good mobile products.

By the way, I am writing this on my Asus Transformer and it is as slow as shit. I really, really need the replacement ASAP!

Oh, and how good and fast is this website on your tablets?


User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2113 times:

Quoting corinthians (Reply 6):
I heard some really good things about the Kindle Fire and Nexus 7. Actually, one of my coworkers, who had an ipad, switched to the Nexus 7 and she hasn't looked back. She is an Apple fan girl, too. I think that is a little too small for me, though, and I prefer something around 10 inches wide.

Well don't forget the Nexus comes in a ten inch size too, the Nexus 10!
http://www.google.com/nexus/10/

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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8224 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

Quoting corinthians (Reply 6):
I have nothing against the ipad, per se, but I don't like the fact that you have to jailbreak to have some of the basic functionalities that an Android tablet would have

I think it's a flip of the coin for a lot of people. There are some benefits of the iPad I like - starting with the apps available. It's probably another flip of the coin, but I think the Pad might be a bit more secure. In terms of functionalities, the iPad I use now & then (I bought it for the wife) has all I need. Actually looked at a mini when in the Apple Store today and will probably get serious in early April (after an important medical clearance). That will add Retina and a faster processor if there is an update in March.

One option you might think about is the MacBook Air - the small one with an 11" display. Starts at $999, lower if you can snag a education discount. That solves the typing issues, flash storage, etc. Plus it's carved out of aluminum - a beautiful bit of work IMO.


User currently offlinecorinthians From United States of America, joined May 2008, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 8):
One option you might think about is the MacBook Air - the small one with an 11" display. Starts at $999, lower if you can snag a education discount. That solves the typing issues, flash storage, etc. Plus it's carved out of aluminum - a beautiful bit of work IMO.

Who needs a MacBook when you can turn your iPad into one!

http://ipadinsight.com/ipad-accessor...kstarter-funding-target-then-some/


User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5635 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2033 times:

During a 7 week trip to the USA in Sept/Oct last year my Lenovo net book crapped out between Seattle & Chicago. In the time/location available I couldn't find a net book replacement so I ended up with an ASUS TF700T tablet. I love it! The learning curve was fairly steep, but Android is no more eccentric than Windows or MacOS, just different. (iOS I have no idea, I don't use iPhone or iPad).

I especially like the fact that it cost me in the $600 with external keyboard, international warranty & a few other accessories. At home it is over $1000 just for the tablet!

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User currently offlinecorinthians From United States of America, joined May 2008, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1978 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 10):
During a 7 weekrip to the USA in Sept/Oct last year my Lenovo net book crapped out between Seattle & Chicago. In the time/location available I couldn't find a net book replacement so I ended up with an ASUS TF700T tablet. I love it! The learning curve was fairly steep, but Android is no more eccentric than Windows or MacOS, just different. (iOS I have no idea, I don't use iPhone or iPad).

I especially like the fact that it cost me in the $600 with external keyboard, international warranty & a few other accessories. At home it is over $1000 just for the tablet!

That is actually my first choice since I already have the the TF100 and am used to that. Best Buy had a deal a few weeks ago for a 32Gig TF700 with the keyboard dock for $500. I was going to get it, but hesitated last minute and the deal is gone. I totally regret that I didn't jump the gun.


User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8224 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1962 times:

Quoting corinthians (Reply 9):
Who needs a MacBook when you can turn your iPad into one!

The Air runs OS X & with Parallels you can run DOS or Windows if you need it for some app or another. I still need XP from time to time for an app to adjust my cpap and the temporary use of Windows is a benefit not available on an iPad.


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 5):
This, the Retina Display and its 4:3 format are strong arguments for the iPad from my point of view (the narrower display formats are not suited well for either portrait or landscape use, apart from watching movies where it doesn't matter).

I disagree. In portrait mode it reads like a book and if I really need to see something bigger I can turn it to landscape mode. Meanwhile since it is narrower than a 4:3 tablet it's nice and light and easy to hold.


User currently onlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1893 times:

Quoting corinthians (Reply 6):
I have nothing against the ipad, per se, but I don't like the fact that you have to jailbreak to have some of the basic functionalities that an Android tablet would have (themeing, file search, etc.).

Search via Spotlight is a standard functionality in iOS. And even if "theming" beyond the supported swapping of background and lock screen images was of any interest to me, I would never, ever destroy most of the security of the device for such a trivial matter.

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 13):
I disagree. In portrait mode it reads like a book and if I really need to see something bigger I can turn it to landscape mode. Meanwhile since it is narrower than a 4:3 tablet it's nice and light and easy to hold.

The iPad mini is much faster, lighter, thinner and actually not much wider than the Nexus 7 - but it has a much larger display with a lot more area for actual content. Particularly with navigation and status bars the narrower displays are barely usable in landscape orientation, and still relatively awkward in portrait.

Just load the same page in a browser on both devices in full-page view on both orientations. The difference is substantial.


User currently offlineJetsgo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3083 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

I saw the Kindle Fire mentioned a few times earlier, and even though it was not suggested by the OP, I would not advise anyone to get one at this point. I got my wife the 8.9 for Christmas and out of the box the lag and choppiness was inexcusable. I sent it back to Amazon and the second was the same way. The screen is beautiful, but the device just doesn't have enough horsepower. The Amazon eco-system is great since it can be accessed anywhere, on any platform, on any device... rendering the Kindle Fire's useless at this point, IMO.

As for me, I use a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 and couldn't be happier.



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 14):
Just load the same page in a browser on both devices in full-page view on both orientations. The difference is substantial.

Can't do that because I didn't want to spend an extra $130 to spend on the Apple product. And even Klaus can't defend the iPad Mini's old dual core A5 processor (same as the iPad 2, which I have used) vs the Nexus' quad core Tegra 3. The only way the Mini even manages to keep up is because it has a nicely optimized graphics chip. It certainly isn't "much faster."


User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5400 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1838 times:

While, I'm not a techie by any standard, and I've only owned one tablet, I went ahead and purchased an iPad 2 around Christmas time.

I used a couple of other tablets off and one, and I do suspect that someone who is a techie or power user will find the iPad, more specifically the IOS more limiting.

But, for someone like me...it's more than adequate.

One annoying thing I learned just this very morning...there is no friggin way to activate Num Lock. What's up with that?



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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1824 times:

I am sorry but I think Android phones are great. But Android tablets app selection is absolutely horrible. The app selection on the iPad makes it a very good option for tablet computing. There are alot of productivity apps that are well designed if you are considering using it as a main computing device. But the scaling that is done for many Android apps to work on tablets is a ridiculous solution. Right now, unless you only plan to spend your time browsing, the iPad is pretty much the only viable option worth your time and money.

At the end of the day they are all touchscreens, so would rather be using it to look at your fully customized desktop or actually doing something in an application?

WHen I went into the market for a tablet, it came down to the Transformer, Nexus 7 or iPad 3rd Gen. I weighed all my options as I had an Android phone and knew the liberty it gives, but on a tablet the game changes significantly and I ended up with the iPad. No regrets here.



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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 16):
Can't do that because I didn't want to spend an extra $130 to spend on the Apple product. And even Klaus can't defend the iPad Mini's old dual core A5 processor (same as the iPad 2, which I have used) vs the Nexus' quad core Tegra 3. The only way the Mini even manages to keep up is because it has a nicely optimized graphics chip. It certainly isn't "much faster.

Specs are great numbers to say aloud. The iPad mini trumps the Nexus 7 as a device any day, in quality, in build and in what you can do on it, apart from customizing your desktop. The Nexus 7 has serious quality control problems as well. Some leak light from the screen, some seem to lag terribly with 4.1, and the list goes on. Great numbers yes, but any normal person buying a Nexus 7 and an iPad mini, would instantly notice the difference in quality of computing.



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

Quoting captaink (Reply 19):
The Nexus 7 has serious quality control problems as well. Some leak light from the screen, some seem to lag terribly with 4.1, and the list goes on.

Guess I got a good one, then.


User currently offlinefraspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2349 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 20):
Quoting captaink (Reply 19):
The Nexus 7 has serious quality control problems as well. Some leak light from the screen, some seem to lag terribly with 4.1, and the list goes on.

Guess I got a good one, then.

Me too...  



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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1787 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 20):
Quoting fraspotter (Reply 21):

Well it is quality control, some most actually come out quite. I think it is a fine tab though, except for those details I have seen people close to me experience. I even heard Phil from Android Central complaining about his 7 after the 4.1 update, so I don't the problem is isolated. Starting at 200 it is a steal though.

Nevertheless, even though I am not a fan of Android on tablets, I think it rocks on phones though (especially when stock), and the Nexus 4 even without LTE is a hell of a device...



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8996 posts, RR: 76
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1751 times:
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Quoting corinthians (Thread starter):

I just want to drop a line on that topic as well. I used to have an iPad and I recently sold it as I somehow didn't like it. I have never been a big fan of apple as you have to use their programs... It was annoying to me.

So I bought the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 now. It is not perfect either, but for what I do it is a lot easier and better.

Just my 2 cents.

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User currently offlinecorinthians From United States of America, joined May 2008, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1578 times:

Ok...update. I decided to plunge and get the iPad 4, 64 gig version. In fact, I am typing this message from it right now! This website loads soooo much faster than it did on my Asus Transformer and I am not getting the crashes and force closes on any of the apps so far. Best Buy has a 30 day return policy, so I will test it out until then and if I don't like it, I can always replace it with the Asus Transformer Infinity, which is quite a bit cheaper. I'll jailbreak this thing tonight to give it more functionality, but I am liking this so far. I criticize Apple's closed policies all the time, but their products "just work". Can't really argue with that.

25 Post contains images zckls04 : You should have just bought a cheap iPhone and upgraded it:
26 Ken777 : What functionality to you really need and would that void the Best Buy warranty? Those are the two sides of the coin. Keeping their platforms closed
27 corinthians : Ifile, for one thing. Also some tweaks that allow you to directly attach files to your email instead of doing it from the file directly. Bluetooth tw
28 Braniff747SP : What Best Buy warranty? It's all Apple. They disallow jailbreaking. I've never seen the point in jailbreaking unless one wants pirated software; I fi
29 zckls04 : I agree. Apple's USP is its rock-solid reliability. Seems mad to buy one and then ruin it.
30 777way : Anyone using Sony tabs?
31 corinthians : iOS is rock solid. I will agree with you there. As I said, “it just works” and I have no issues with it crashing, etc. I just want to add a few t
32 ThrottleHold : A few months ago I switched from my iPad3 to a Galaxy Note 10.1. Best decision I ever made. The screen is not as good as the Retina display, but the a
33 777way : Galaxy is Samsung, i 'm inquiring about Sony tablet S saw one at a store and it seemed like a toy compared to iPad, but people say its better or as go
34 kngkyle : As a laptop replacement, Microsoft Surface Pro. I wouldn't worry about the lesser number of applications. The essential apps are there. And when you c
35 ImperialEagle : I bought a new TOL IPad (3) last April. It has been fantastic. If I had realized what it was capable of I would never have purchased the Dell lap-top
36 corinthians : Lol...Yeah, I see that now. For some odd reason, I always get the two companies confused even though I know they are totally different. I am not a fa
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