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CNN P. Morgan Rips Mil. Sheriff Over Guns Part 2  
User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4396 posts, RR: 6
Posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1045 times:
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User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2456 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1030 times:

I don't get why people make such a big deal about Fox News leaning right when MSNBC is just as bad, if not worse, when it comes to the left. Is it just because Fox has much higher ratings and thus becomes some sort of target?


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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12470 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1004 times:

From Pt. 1:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 249):

Quoting Revelation (Reply 248):
that limit almost every practical way to overthrow the government?

I really don't go down that road, but I do think that occupation of certain parts of our country (from the US government or a foreign one) would be difficult due to an insurgency. No one is suggesting some back country folk are going to shoot down Apaches or destroy some M1A1s but an insurgency would make life difficult and causalities high. I think that is the mindset behind it all

Then let's spell it out why we do it, and actually train and otherwise prepare people for it. Either that, or let's admit that it's a bad idea because the problems caused by zillions of guns lying around is worse than the problem of Mexico or Canada or the Tea Party overthrowing the US government.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 988 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 1):
Is it just because Fox has much higher ratings and thus becomes some sort of target?

That's what happens when you have a successful product.

If you don't have a successful product you sell it to Al-Jazeera.



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11598 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 982 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 1):
I don't get why people make such a big deal about Fox News leaning right when MSNBC is just as bad, if not worse, when it comes to the left. Is it just because Fox has much higher ratings and thus becomes some sort of target?

Source for "high raitings"?

The problem is: people cite FOX like they are the only trustworthy news source even when it is proven over and over again they are doing everything they can to silence Democrats. They claim they are "fair and balanced" but that is like Marlboro saying their product has no side effects at all. MSNBC does not even claim to be "fair and balanced" but they are there to balance out FOX. But, no one cares. FOX is on so many basic cable systems around the country while MSNBC is on premium subscriptions.

Raitings at FOX have nothing to do with it. It is their outright lie that they are "fair and balanced" that bothers me.

And, about al-Jezeera: they are much more "fair and balanced" than FOX. Problem is: they concern themselves with news of the world, not about propping up the right-wing of the United States. Just like NHK, Deuche Welle, BBC, CBC, etc...



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User currently offlinehOmsar From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 956 times:

Anyone notice that part 1 of this thread was started by IllinoisMan and part 2 is started by Iowaman?

Just found that a little ironic. Maybe part 3 will be by NebraskaMan?



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User currently onlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5504 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 951 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 4):
Raitings at FOX have nothing to do with it. It is their outright lie that they are "fair and balanced" that bothers me.

You are a serious broken record. I don't find your constant rants about FOX News to be relevant to anything other than your anti-right agenda. If you could perhaps focus in on the posters who you believe have been brainwashed by FOX News, that'd be great. Personally, I don't even have cable anymore, yet I feel like if I disagree with your point of view then I must be some sort of Hannity wannabe. Can you see how insulting your approach can be? I'd prefer you just say that you think I'm wrong and why, then be done with it.

-Dave



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User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 947 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 4):
It is their outright lie that they are "fair and balanced" that bothers me.

Seb; Just because you despise Fox News doesn't make them liars; And the reason you're so "bothered is because Fox News IS "fair and balanced".

Quoting seb146 (Reply 4):
they are doing everything they can to silence Democrats.

Show me ONE example of where Fox News EVER attempted to "silence" any Democrat; They merely "point out" how WRONG they are; (and they're very good at it too !)

Quoting seb146 (Reply 4):
Source for "high raitings"?

Why would you ask some one you disagree with to name a "source" that you disagree with, Seb ? That would merely be arguing; anyone who has been on this forum for more than a week certainly realizes that attempting to convince you that Fox News is "good" knows it's an exercise in futility, so why bother?

Quoting seb146 (Reply 4):
And, about al-Jezeera: they are much more "fair and balanced" than FOX. Problem is: they concern themselves with news of the world, not about propping up the right-wing of the United States. Just like NHK, Deuche Welle, BBC, CBC, etc...

So now your you're going to try to convince us that al-Jezeera is "fair and balanced", eh ? And you like to listen to DW, BBC, CBC, etc. ? (No wonder you're so mixed up !) I'll tell you what; you keep listening to al-Jezeera and the BBC, and I'll keep listening to Fox News; is that O.K. with you ? ( Next you'll be trying to tell us that the Daily KOS is "Fair and Balanced" !

Charley



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 942 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 7):
So now your you're going to try to convince us that al-Jezeera is "fair and balanced", eh ?

Oh, so you must watch or be quite educated about al-jezeera to make such a statement, right? Nvm, we know ignorance never stopped you from anything.

Still waiting on your wonderful source about Nancy Lanza being Democrat.



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User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8093 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 935 times:

Al-Jazeera is fair and balanced! Anyone who thinks otherwise simply hasn't seen it.


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User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 921 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 9):

Al Jazeera caters to their primary audience in the Middle East, and expats in Europe from the Middle East. I find that the BBC and Reuters does a better job with international coverage than Al Jazeera. For example, when I was watching the Japan earthquake and tsunami coverage live, I was flipping through the major broadcasters and nobody even came close to the BBC.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12470 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 917 times:

Quoting TheCol (Reply 10):
For example, when I was watching the Japan earthquake and tsunami coverage live, I was flipping through the major broadcasters and nobody even came close to the BBC.

I find the BBC World Service is the most usable news source because it doesn't have super-egos yelling at each other all the time. It also talks about parts of the world that most US sources don't seem to know exists. It's funny some of the UK taxpayers get so wound up about having to pay taxes for the service when it should be pretty clear that the alternative is a stream of News Corp funded drek. Murdock is like Castro and Chavez - the world will be a better place when they shed their mortal coil.

I'll add that the BBC correspondents ask hard questions and keep asking them till they get satisfactory answers. It seems in the US the media isn't willing to do that any more, except in rare cases. In the US we quite often get interviews of two or more guests who more or less agree with each other and the interview becomes a shouting match of egos trying to make sure all their very similar points get heard. Total drek, IMHO.

[Edited 2013-02-10 08:02:40]


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User currently offlineDarkSnowyNight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1356 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 916 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 7):

Seb; Just because you despise Fox News doesn't make them liars;

Of course not. The fact that they're liars makes them liars.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 9):
Al-Jazeera is fair and balanced! Anyone who thinks otherwise simply hasn't seen it.

I thought so too, but like TheCol says, they could broaden their scope a bit and be just fine.



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User currently onlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5504 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 886 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 11):
It seems in the US the media isn't willing to do that any more, except in rare cases.

That's the truth, which is something to be very concerned about unless you like being spoonfed.

-Dave



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User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 789 times:

Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 12):
Of course not. The fact that they're liars makes them liars. ( referring to Fox News )

Lets see now; in the last 6 months or so, I've heard you refer to Fox News as being liars, (because YOU don't agree with them, but during all that time, I haven't noticed a SINGLE instance of where you have pointed out a SINGLE lie that Fox has told; ( mainly because you can't NAME any lie they have told, simply because Fox News doesn't lie ! ) all of which, (IMO), makes YOU sound like a BROKEN RECORD !

Do you seriously think that I, (or anyone else who LIKES Fox News) even CARES what YOU think about Fox News ? My best suggestion to you would be.........tune in to The Daily Kos and listen to that drivel all day long, and you will no doubt be much happier ! ( It will also make a few members of A.net happier also, because we won't have to keep listening to you calling Fox News liars every other day. ) Haven't you ever heard of the time honored principle of...."the burden of proof is on the accuser"?

If you simply must resort to calling everyone you disagree with a derogatory name, I think you need to be prepared to back up your accusations.

( Thank You in advance ! )

Charley

( a big fan of Fox News )



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11598 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 775 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 7):
I'll tell you what; you keep listening to al-Jezeera and the BBC, and I'll keep listening to Fox News; is that O.K. with you ?

Keeping in mind that FOX does everything it can to make Democrats look as worse as possible instead of reporting on news, fine with me! As opposed to BBC, al-Jezeera, NHK, etc who say Senator X said this and Senator Y said that. Put that along side FOX who says "Republican Senator X supports America by saying X while Democrat Y is against that plan!" Yeah. That's fair and balanced.

Quoting Geezer (Reply 7):
( Next you'll be trying to tell us that the Daily KOS is "Fair and Balanced" !

As "fair and balanced" as FOX is, yes. Yes, they are.

Quoting Geezer (Reply 7):
Why would you ask some one you disagree with to name a "source" that you disagree with, Seb ?

That right there tells me you just blindly go along with the half-truths from FOX.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/ostrow/2.../30/fox-news-ratings-12year/12626/
http://www.buzzfeed.com/dorsey/msnbc...ction-ratings-should-make-fox-news

FOX is losing among 25-54 year olds. Big time. MSNBC is gaining. You can certainly research any of the above information on your own. You will simply say my "liberal" facts are wrong. But, go ahead. Research it. I'll wait...



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2853 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 767 times:

Quoting TheCol (Reply 10):
I find that the BBC and Reuters does a better job with international coverage than Al Jazeera. For example, when I was watching the Japan earthquake and tsunami coverage live, I was flipping through the major broadcasters and nobody even came close to the BBC.

I agree.
IMHO, US based news organisations just don't cut it at all, especially when it comes "international"
In fact you could almost be forgiven for thinking no other countries in the world exist apart from the US sourced news.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 11):
I'll add that the BBC correspondents ask hard questions and keep asking them till they get satisfactory answers.

  

Quoting Revelation (Reply 11):
It seems in the US the media isn't willing to do that any more, except in rare cases.

I cant remember the last time I saw a really good interview from the US broadcasters ?



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11598 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 735 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 16):
US based news organisations just don't cut it at all, especially when it comes "international"
In fact you could almost be forgiven for thinking no other countries in the world exist apart from the US sourced news.

FOX will cover news from other countries. When they believe it will increase their ratings. I have not seen anything on Syria or Egypt in the past month on FOX. North Korea? Yeah.. they covered a little bit of that. Wall-to-wall when Benedict announced his resignation. That is something we are all supposed to be obsessed with, I guess. In a free country where we are free to follow our own religion, we are all supposed to be Catholic? It is news, to be sure. Not to the point FOX covers it. I am Protestant. Why do I care that much if Benedict resigns? He does not lead my sect. Tell me how negotiations on sequestration are coming. Tell me why the right are filibustering Chuck Hagel's nomination. Tell me what is going on in Canada, our biggest trading partner. Are they having elections? Lumber taxes?



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