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Titanic II Set To Begin Construction Soon  
User currently offlineAloha717200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3615 times:

It looks as if this project to build a complete functional but modern version of Titanic is actually going to become a reality.

Titanic II is set to enjoy its global launch on Feb 26, 2013, at a gala dinner on the USS Intrepid:

http://bluestarline.com.au/?p=1303

Construction is expected to begin in China shortly thereafter.

The first booklet containing 3D renderings of the ship's final design have also been released. You can see them by flipping through this digital booklet here:

http://publ.com/mNahlZu#/10/


A facebook page dedicated to seeing a Replica Olympic constructed is also closely in contact with and providing updates from the Titanic II project. You can follow them here: http://www.facebook.com/ReplicaOlympic


So it's really happening. And I'll be the first to say I'm definitely going on this ship as soon as I can afford to. I'm not afraid of it sinking, but as a Titanic buff I most definitely want to enjoy the experience of sailing on a ship as close to being like Titanic as will ever be constructed. They're keeping it very true to the original, while also providing modern amenities such as wifi and TV, and enough lifeboats for everyone on a "safety deck", where modern ship entertainment will also be housed. It doesn't look like they're going to be segregating classes to certain parts of the ships, but will be using the class system in terms of recreating the authentic look of the rooms.

More to come. I'm personally very excited about this.

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User currently onlinealberchico From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3611 times:

Nah this still smells like a scheme that will never get off the ground. It will take several hundred million dollars to complete this project...

User currently offlineKen777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3582 times:

Not sure it will be competitive in today's cruise market.

No matter how critical people are of the current cruise options the simple fact that those balcony rooms are a nice way to sail - and generate additional funds for the cruise lines. Best of luck to it. I hope it's competitive in today's market.


User currently offlinePacNWJet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3539 times:

Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):
It doesn't look like they're going to be segregating classes to certain parts of the ships, but will be using the class system in terms of recreating the authentic look of the rooms.

Why on earth would anyone pay any money to stay in a replica steerage class room, except perhaps for one night simply for the novelty of it?


User currently offlinefalstaff From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3531 times:
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Quoting PacNWJet (Reply 3):
Why on earth would anyone pay any money to stay in a replica steerage class room, except perhaps for one night simply for the novelty of it?

I hope they have more bath facilities than the original did in 3rd class. I heard the original Titanic only had two; one for men and one for women.

Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):
Titanic II

Isn't bad luck to name a ship after one than was involved in a disaster?


User currently offlinepliersinsight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3475 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 4):
I hope they have more bath facilities than the original did in 3rd class. I heard the original Titanic only had two; one for men and one for women.

That would be the same for all classes on the Carnival Triumph.


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3362 times:
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Quoting falstaff (Reply 4):
Isn't bad luck to name a ship after one than was involved in a disaster?

The US Navy does it. They recycle the name in the sunken ships "honor"


User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3271 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 4):
Isn't bad luck to name a ship after one than was involved in a disaster?

I agree with you. Give a dog a bad name and you might as well shoot it. It's bad karma.

Fair dos to the bloke for giving it a go. I won't be sailing on it. He says he has thousands of passengers ready to buy tickets but in my business experience you should never listen to the consumer, they will always lead you up the swanny. Being made in China also doesn't bode well.

I look forward to seeing it, if it actually happens.


User currently offlineATCtower From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

Quoting alberchico (Reply 1):
Nah this still smells like a scheme that will never get off the ground. It will take several hundred million dollars to complete this project...

Since modern day cruise ships cost well over a billion dollars and are VERY profitable, you want to build one for 'several hundred million', tell me where to sign to invest....

Quoting PacNWJet (Reply 3):
Why on earth would anyone pay any money to stay in a replica steerage class room, except perhaps for one night simply for the novelty of it?

For the price they charged for a 3rd class ticket with the modern day nautical requirements, I would be HAPPY to and there are surely more.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 4):
Isn't bad luck to name a ship after one than was involved in a disaster?
Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 6):
The US Navy does it. They recycle the name in the sunken ships "honor"

On both, yes, it is 'bad luck' UNLESS, as our Navy does and 'dedicates in honor'..

Quoting babybus (Reply 7):
I agree with you. Give a dog a bad name and you might as well shoot it. It's bad karma.

Just like a pitbull. Michael Vick screwed the breed, just as White Star did. Both 'claim' to be exempt from such activities now.


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3108 times:
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Quoting ATCtower (Reply 8):
Just like a pitbull. Michael Vick screwed the breed, just as White Star did. Both 'claim' to be exempt from such activities now.

People were dog fighting long before Mr Vick and his buddies.
White Star Service is still used as a sevice mark on Cunard ships to denote a high level of service.


User currently offlineDocLightning From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3061 times:

The renderings make it look more like a cruise ship and less like an ocean liner. The freeboard is very low to accommodate the lifeboats.

A true ocean liner, like QM2 would have a higher freeboard, methinks.

The lack of bulbous bow is also curious. They went for azipods, so why no bulbous bow?


User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3021 times:

Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):
It looks as if this project to build a complete functional but modern version of Titanic is actually going to become a reality.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see this working. It will probably have a great start but it takes a lot more than a year or two to create ROI.


User currently offlineTransIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3001 times:

Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):
They're keeping it very true to the original, while also providing modern amenities such as wifi and TV, and enough lifeboats for everyone on a "safety deck", where modern ship entertainment will also be housed. It doesn't look like they're going to be segregating classes to certain parts of the ships,

In other words, it's nothing like the Titanic?


User currently offlinethomil13FRA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2976 times:
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So, how is the work on the corresponding iceberg coming along?   

Seriously, I don't see how this idea could ever float, but it looks as if the investors motto is "sink or swim."   

Okay, okay, I'll get my coat...


User currently offlinepanam330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2920 times:

Quoting thomil13FRA (Reply 13):
So, how is the work on the corresponding iceberg coming along?   

Seriously, I don't see how this idea could ever float, but it looks as if the investors motto is "sink or swim."   

Okay, okay, I'll get my coat...

Hey, somebody had to do it.  

Up next, ladies and gentleman, I present to you: the new DeHavilland Comet!


User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2907 times:

Quoting PacNWJet (Reply 3):
Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):
It doesn't look like they're going to be segregating classes to certain parts of the ships, but will be using the class system in terms of recreating the authentic look of the rooms.

Why on earth would anyone pay any money to stay in a replica steerage class room, except perhaps for one night simply for the novelty of it?

Why on earth would I go to a Medieval park? why on earth would I stay at a Disney hotel? Some people would actually like the experience.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 4):
Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):
Titanic II

Isn't bad luck to name a ship after one than was involved in a disaster?

That hasn't stopped some airlines from using the same flight number on either the same route or another route.

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 12):
Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):
They're keeping it very true to the original, while also providing modern amenities such as wifi and TV, and enough lifeboats for everyone on a "safety deck", where modern ship entertainment will also be housed. It doesn't look like they're going to be segregating classes to certain parts of the ships,

In other words, it's nothing like the Titanic?

Take all that away, then why build it? Should a Disney park hotel only have the Disney channels on its TVs? After all, we don't want to spoil the magic when dad wants to watch CNN and big brother prefers Nickelodeon.


User currently offlinePyrex From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2867 times:

Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):
Construction is expected to begin in China shortly thereafter.
Quoting thomil13FRA (Reply 13):
So, how is the work on the corresponding iceberg coming along?

Have you seen were the ship will be made? A mere ice-cube is probably more than enough. I think I have enough stuff in my freezer to sink a whole flotilla of Titanics. 


User currently offlinetugger From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

Interesting to see it has a fake rudder and a three azi-pods under the stern. She also stands higher by a deck or two above the water.

I don''t see it working (it looks to be missing the luxury touches and balconies in the individual cabins, but it is a neat idea and it would be fun to see her plying the waters.

Tugg


User currently offlineRussianJet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
The renderings make it look more like a cruise ship and less like an ocean liner. The freeboard is very low to accommodate the lifeboats.

As long as the renderings look better than in the film bearing the same name, starring Dick Van Dyke's son.

Gah, just thinking about that films makes me mad. It was the biggest theft of my time ever committed! The imdb rating is a fair reflection of my view.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1640571/


User currently offlineDocLightning From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2807 times:

Quoting ATCtower (Reply 8):
Just like a pitbull. Michael Vick screwed the breed, just as White Star did. Both 'claim' to be exempt from such activities now.

White Star no longer exists. It was taken over by Cunard, which was taken over by Carnival.

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 12):
In other words, it's nothing like the Titanic?

EinsteinBoricua is right. It's a floating Titanic theme park. The public rooms are all faithful replicas of the rooms aboard Titanic. But there will be parts of the original that passengers will not experience. Ocean liners of the day did not have stabilizers and they were notorious for rolling. Rather than being glamorous, many passengers spent the entire journey horribly seasick. They didn't have scopolamine patches or ondansetron back in the day, either. People are willing to pay to go to a floating theme park. But just like people in renaissance fairs aren't there to enjoy eating rotten meat and bathing only twice a month, people won't board Titanic II to sit in steerage, to puke from sea sickness, or to perish in the icy North Atlantic.


User currently offlinekiwirob From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
The renderings make it look more like a cruise ship and less like an ocean liner. The freeboard is very low to accommodate the lifeboats.

Take a look at some pictures of Titanic or her sister ships, this isn't much different.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):

The lack of bulbous bow is also curious. They went for azipods, so why no bulbous bow?

You can easily hid the azipods, but hiding a bulbous bow is impossible, this is supposed to be a replica build as close as possible to the original.

BTW they are not really called azipods that's just ABB's brand name for their azimuth thrusters. QM2 uses Rolls Royce Mermaid azimuth thrusters.


User currently offlineDocLightning From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 20):
You can easily hid the azipods, but hiding a bulbous bow is impossible, this is supposed to be a replica build as close as possible to the original.

Simple. Paint it black. There is no reason it absolutely has to be red.

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 20):
Take a look at some pictures of Titanic or her sister ships, this isn't much different.

Yes it is. The Freeboard is lower.


User currently offlinekiwirob From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 21):
Yes it is. The Freeboard is lower.

Look at the overlay profile on page 13 of the second attachment, this suggests it isn't. It appears lower because they have had to relocate the lifeboats.


User currently offlineAloha717200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 2474 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 21):
Yes it is. The Freeboard is lower.

The freeboard is lower on the original Titanic. It is higher on Titanic II.


User currently offlinegarpd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2301 times:

I hope this project does come to fruition. I kind of like the idea of a Titanic II

User currently offlinekiwirob From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2342 times:

Quoting garpd (Reply 24):
I kind of like the idea of a Titanic II

If it's a success we might even see an Olympic II and Britanic II.


User currently offlinegarpd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 26, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2335 times:

That would be so cool. The 3 sisters reunited on the waves.

User currently offlinezippyjet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 27, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2307 times:

Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):

May I be the first to wish you a safe and pleasant voyage as I'll just say no thanks. Maybe I'm superstitious. And I do enjoy cruising. In spite of the Carnival Triumph fiasco I can't wait to take my next cruise and I'll have no problem cruising on Carnival. My three cruises were on them. My advice to Titanic II? Stay away from Icebergs and the first few sailings shoule be "cruises to nowhere." Translated straying not too far from the port of embarkation.


User currently offlinecomorin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 28, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2200 times:

you guys go ahead, I'm saving my money for a cruise on the Andrea Doria II

User currently offlinezippyjet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 29, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2059 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 28):

How about Hindenberg 2, Electric Boogalo?   


User currently offlinekiwirob From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 30, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2047 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 29):
How about Hindenberg 2

The crazy Aussie who is building Titanic 2 also wanted to built commercially viable Zeppelins a few years back, that one didn't get off the ground.


User currently offlinecomorin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 31, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 29):
How about Hindenberg 2, Electric Boogalo?

Will do, this summer! I hear Lakehurst is near the Jersey Shore...  


User currently offlineluv2fly From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 32, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1989 times:
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I saw an interview with the person behind this ship. He mentioned no TV's or Internet. I don't see this as a viable endeavor, IMHO. People have come to expect these items as the norm and not the exception. Also no balconies. What is the expression, "A fool and his money is soon parted"

User currently offlinekiwirob From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 33, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1903 times:

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 32):
Also no balconies.

Can't build a replica of the Titanic with balconies, it would look wrong.


User currently offlineluv2fly From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 34, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1900 times:
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Quoting kiwirob (Reply 33):

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 32):
Also no balconies.

Can't build a replica of the Titanic with balconies, it would look wrong.

I agree with you, though there really is not a market for ships with out them these days.


User currently offlinekiwirob From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 35, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 34):

I agree with you, though there really is not a market for ships with out them these days.

This is a bit different, I think people will cruise on Titanic II for the novelty factor alone.


User currently offlineluv2fly From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 36, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1887 times:
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Quoting kiwirob (Reply 35):
This is a bit different, I think people will cruise on Titanic II for the novelty factor alone.

I agree though once will probably be enough, no repeat that I can see.


User currently offlinesteeler83 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 37, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 16):

Have you seen were the ship will be made? A mere ice-cube is probably more than enough. I think I have enough stuff in my freezer to sink a whole flotilla of Titanics.

Why go as far as your freezer? I think someone sneezing will cause this thing to take on water!   

Good one, tho.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 38, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

I am no supporter of "Titanic 2" I just ran into this article unwillingly so posting here for all to read.

Titanic II is no hoax, insists billionaire mining magnate
Saturday 2 Mar 2013 12:34 pm

Can Professor Clive Palmer build the uncynical ship? Well, the man behind Titanic II faced his critics head on in London today and insisted the replica of the vessel that sank in 1912 would be become a ‘dream come true’.

The Australian mining magnate said the 56,000-tonne ship would be a testament to the hundreds of Britons who were among the 1,500 killed when Titanic sank on its maiden voyage.

Challenged bluntly if the whole thing was a hoax, he simply replied: ‘Bulls***’

‘I have enough money to build Titanic II ten times over,’ the billionaire insisted, adding it was up to him how he spent his fortune.

read more (with pictures)
http://metro.co.uk/2013/03/02/titani...illionaire-mining-magnate-3523009/

   


User currently offlinePolot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 39, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

No internet and TV on board?

Yeah...people will be completely bored after a day on board. You spend a few hours somewhere to enjoy "romantic themes" with period costume pieces, not a week completely cut off.


User currently offlineDocLightning From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 40, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1758 times:

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 23):
The freeboard is lower on the original Titanic. It is higher on Titanic II.

I looked at it again and it's actually about the same, so I retract my comment. It's that the freeboard is lower than the top of the hull.

They say she will be doing the North Atlantic run, so I hope she's built like a liner.

Quoting Polot (Reply 39):
No internet and TV on board?

With enough customer feedback, at least the former is easy enough to fix. WiFi is pretty inexpensive. Although with a big, metal ship, they are going to need a lot of WiFi routers.


User currently offlinekiwirob From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 41, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1754 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 40):

They say she will be doing the North Atlantic run, so I hope she's built like a liner.

Well she is a modern interpretation of the Titanic which was built as a liner, so it's a pretty safe assumption that she will also be a liner and built for the job.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 42, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 41):

Well she is a modern interpretation of the Titanic which was built as a liner, so it's a pretty safe assumption that she will also be a liner and built for the job.

She will be Chinese built and owned by whom? Will the Chinese own the ship?

Will they use her on transAtlatnic route? Will they use her on transAsian routes?

Are they going to use her as a curiosity cruise ship?

We don't know much at this point... do we?

I would not sail on this Titanic 2 if they paid me.

  


User currently offlinekiwirob From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 43, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1732 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 42):
She will be Chinese built and owned by whom? Will the Chinese own the ship?

Good lord Madame have not not read any of the above posts, the ship is being built in China, designed by the Finns (they know a thing or two about designing passenger vessels) and will be owned by Blue Star Line which is in turn owned by slightly nutty Australian billionaire Clive Palmer who made his money in the mining industry.


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