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Iceland Wants To Ban Online Porn  
User currently offlineL0VE2FLY From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 1571 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 11 hours ago) and read 5233 times:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/15/tech/web/porn-ban-iceland/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...769/Icelands-bid-ban-web-porn.html

An unprecedented move for a Western country. Printing and distribution of porn has been banned for years in the island nation.

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User currently offlineRara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2086 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 5100 times:

Always a great idea to institute a ban of which you already know that a majority of the population is going to ignore it. All it does is moving people over to the illegal side of things, making regulation neigh-impossible and exposing people to shady business-makers and dubious software.


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User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2184 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 5095 times:

They might as well be attempting to ban the internet.

User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 5088 times:
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Wow. A very bad idea indeed. There of course needs to be great effort to curb the spread of child porn and other sorts of abusive material, but to prohibit posession or viewing of porn comprising consensual acts between adults is just daft. Measures to prevent children accessing porn are sensible, but that does not have to mean banning access for everyone. Any kind of legislation that immediately criminalises a large section of the population is inherently quite silly, particularly when it involves the satisfaction of what is ultimately a pretty natural desire.

Also, how is banning the use of credit cards for paying to access porn going to protect children from viewing it? Do many children in Iceland have credit cards?



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 6 hours ago) and read 5086 times:

From the article:

Quote:
A member of the parliament committee studying the issue, Jonsdottir says a porn ban has "near zero" chance of passing parliament and that she's working to find other ways the government can help protect children from Web porn.

I'll believe it when I see it.

You might as well ban prostitution. Oh wait... we did. And, voila! There is no more prostitution! *deadpan*


User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11652 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 2 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

How long until the men of Iceland take to the streets in protest?


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User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1361 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 4966 times:

Quoting Polot (Reply 2):
They might as well be attempting to ban the internet.

What kind of country would be crazy enough to try something like that? Oh wait, nevermind...




I agree with Jonsdottir. This would be hilariously unenforceable.

You don't often hear about Iceland doing silly things like this. They trying to fill a quota or something?



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 4966 times:
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Quoting seb146 (Reply 5):
How long until the men of Iceland take to the streets in protest?

What, naked, en masse with a huge porn banner, furiously beating their meat as they go? Let's just hope that doesn't have to happen. Nobody wants to see that.



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11652 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 4962 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 7):
What, naked, en masse with a huge porn banner, furiously beating their meat as they go? Let's just hope that doesn't have to happen. Nobody wants to see that.

Really? I have seen some of those Icelandic men. I wouldn't mind taking a peek at that.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 4956 times:
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Quoting seb146 (Reply 8):
I have seen some of those Icelandic men. I wouldn't mind taking a peek at that.

Probably not at the fat, balding, middle-aged ones though.



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User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1361 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 4953 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 9):
Quoting seb146 (Reply 8):
I have seen some of those Icelandic men. I wouldn't mind taking a peek at that.

Probably not at the fat, balding, middle-aged ones though.

And let's not forget it's cold there too.



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User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1260 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4859 times:

Yeah another totally stupid idea, a bit like banning of prostitution indeed, never works.

I feel huge amount of politicians especially around Nordic countries & Finland have absolutely no idea about what they are doing, they totally ignore all the realities of the world.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4793 times:

Quoting L0VE2FLY (Thread starter):
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/15/tech/web/porn-ban-iceland/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...769/Icelands-bid-ban-web-porn.html

An unprecedented move for a Western country. Printing and distribution of porn has been banned for years in the island nation.

Well, good luck with that. I have always thought that porn was really the inspiration for the first primitive browsers -- guys sending racy pics of their g.f.'s to other grad students. No matter what the law might say, or tech fixes put in, I think I'm on reasonable ground in predicting porn will stay a step ahead.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6651 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4782 times:

Actually porn was sent via newsgroups and bulletin boards years before the creation of the web. Mostly by students and professors yes, since the internet was mainly present at universities.


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User currently offlineFallap From Denmark, joined Jan 2009, 323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4690 times:

This would never had happened if Iceland declared indepence from Denmark in 1944.

Thanks a lot Hitler....

But really, sometimes I feel that the civilised world (And Iceland in this case) takes two steps forward, and one back...


User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4683 times:
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Why even have the internet at all if they do this.


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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2292 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4654 times:

I don't know how this would work considering there exist ways to circumvent IP bans.

They seem to be rubbing the mint right about now, in Iceland.

Quoting pvjin (Reply 11):
I feel huge amount of politicians especially around Nordic countries & Finland have absolutely no idea about what they are doing, they totally ignore all the realities of the world.

No, that's not politicians in the Nordic countries, that's politicians everywhere  


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4633 times:

Is this an actual proposal or is it one of those "TX is considering seceding" proposals (even though .01% or so of the population actually supported it?)


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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12566 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4627 times:
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Quoting RussianJet (Reply 3):
Also, how is banning the use of credit cards for paying to access porn going to protect children from viewing it? Do many children in Iceland have credit cards?

Regardless of whether of not Iclandic kids have credit cards, two of the biggest porn sites on the internet require no payment. Er, so I'm told.  



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4622 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 18):
Regardless of whether of not Iclandic kids have credit cards, two of the biggest porn sites on the internet require no payment. Er, so I'm told.  

For real, google image and video search is all a kid ever needs. Plus kids are so imaginative at that age that they can look up medical pics, nudist colonies, art, unclothed civilizations, etc and 'corrupt' themselves that way, and I highly doubt any politician would go as far as banning art that shows boobs, but you never know



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User currently offline9MMPQ From Netherlands, joined Nov 2011, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4621 times:

Why talk when you can sing about it .. i give you ''The Internet is for porn''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Wr3uOI4kc

 



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4548 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 13):
Actually porn was sent via newsgroups and bulletin boards years before the creation of the web. Mostly by students and professors yes, since the internet was mainly present at universities.

Oh, indeed, porn preceded browsers by quite a while. In fact, it was only 2 years after the first moving pictures (16 frames/sec) in about 1890 or so that the first 'dirty' films were being made. So porn has been around a long time. But browsers made it so much more convenient.

I remember using arpanet and milnet 30+ years ago, just getting into discussion groups, it was fantastic. But then when NCSA released their initial browser, MOSAIC, it was like a veil being raised from my eyes.



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User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4449 times:

I guess as the old saying goes "You know it when you see it" but aside from this how do they in the Iceland government define porn and how far does it go? I think everyone is in favor of banning child porn and certainly the vast majority wants to to see animal torture and bestiality banned from the net, laws are already in place for most of that around the world, this is a non-starter. The problem is, on top of the absurdity of this policy is how is it defined? Do they mean hard-core, fetish, voyeur or does it go all the way to soft-core and pictures of virtually any women that could cause someone to become aroused?


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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3863 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4435 times:

Quoting L0VE2FLY (Thread starter):
Iceland Wants To Ban Online Porn 

There's porn in the internet? I didn't know that. Interesting, hmmm...   



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User currently offlinerwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2351 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4396 times:
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Quoting connies4ever (Reply 21):
Oh, indeed, porn preceded browsers by quite a while. In fact, it was only 2 years after the first moving pictures (16 frames/sec) in about 1890 or so that the first 'dirty' films were being made. So porn has been around a long time. But browsers made it so much more convenient.

Porn was done on praxinoscopes (think flip-book viewer) well before that.


25 Aesma : Good point. Is the beginning of "Flight" with a nice naked female F/A porn ?[Edited 2013-02-20 03:42:03]
26 aero145 : I had seen this coming as now the rate of posession of child pornography, child molestation/assault and adult rape in Iceland is quite high, if not th
27 Post contains links RussianJet : It sure does. As an indication, the UK legislation that to this day prohibits the import of obscene material dates back to 1876! http://customs.hmrc.
28 Aesma : Well if this is already illegal, how is banning currently legal porn going to help ? Does banning tobacco help fight against marijuana ?
29 DeltaMD90 : So you'll ban legal, ok porn to fight already illegal porn? How does that make sense?
30 aero145 : In Iceland, internet porn isn’t, per se, illegal. The law, passed in 1940, states that someone who publishes pornography shall be sent to gaol for
31 pvjin : It just means that Iceland has a lot of people with something seriously wrong in their head. Instead of banning porn the government should sure conce
32 aero145 : I, unfortunately, wholeheartedly agree.
33 Post contains images fraspotter : Agree... I'm in South Korea and they ban internet pornography but there are ways around that. I for example have a VPN... not that that's what I use
34 Post contains images L0VE2FLY : Smuggling and distributing pornographic material must've been a thriving business in the pre-internet years. Don't worry, we won't tell anyone Looks
35 MD-90 : Well there goes Tumblr...
36 135mech : Haha... that would TOTALLY suck!!! Tumblr is AWESOME!!! 135mech
37 zippyjet : So important. Doesn't Iceland have other more important issues to face such as economic collapse, rapidly radically chaning climate? If this happens i
38 prebennorholm : This has absolutely nothing with Hitler to do. If you want to blame someone, blame King Christian X who handed over the Home Rule law in 1918 specify
39 Post contains images soon7x7 : And in the end...(no pun intended)...who are the ones that get caught in scandalous sexual escapades with either young children or hookers...the very
40 zippyjet : Even the women from Iceland tend to be Amazons, so they'd gravitate toward those big assed SUV's.
41 prebennorholm : That sentence belongs to the Guinness Book of Records as the most faulty statement ever made on planet Earth.
42 hoons90 : Huh? Porn sites are easily accessible in Korea without any VPNs or proxies. The only thing is that there are stringent age verification systems in pl
43 L0VE2FLY : A European country with an insatiable appetite for gas guzzling SUVs! Now that's unusual. I thought gas was too expensive in Iceland.
44 Post contains images aero145 : Actually, the situation in which Iceland is nowadays is not much better than the crisis in 2008! How long has it been since you visited Iceland, how
45 prebennorholm : Some of my Icelandic friends tell me the same thing. But when getting into details, then they confess that they compare to the boom and gloom years 2
46 NASCARAirforce : Too cold there for anyone to get naked.
47 L0VE2FLY : That's the most common interpretation of Amazon woman almost everywhere, I don't think the Icelandic women are taller or any less feminine than other
48 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Probably right behind the women already there - I know as many women who enjoy pornography as men. Dan
49 Pu : The most left-leaning ("socialist" in American political vernacular) first world nations, the Nordic states of Europe, have surprising similarities w
50 Post contains images DeltaMD90 : Which scares me, I see culture generally moving more and more left. Not saying that's bad necessarily, but looking all the way left (to Scandinavia,
51 flybaurlax : Now what are they going to do? I thought porn was all there was to do on that rock! (joking! I love Iceland and can't wait to go back).
52 135mech : Agreed! I have been to KEF and Reykjavik twice and the women are just amazing!!! 135Mech
53 Post contains links Redd : Never mind that the country had one of the most significant post WW2 revolutions that hasn't made the news, but this does? http://www.collective-evolu
54 L0VE2FLY : Interesting analysis, however, it's often the left wingers that tolerate the liberal lifestyle.
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