Rara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2280 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5420 times:
Always a great idea to institute a ban of which you already know that a majority of the population is going to ignore it. All it does is moving people over to the illegal side of things, making regulation neigh-impossible and exposing people to shady business-makers and dubious software.
Samson was a biblical tough guy, but his dad Samsonite was even more of a hard case.
RussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7757 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5408 times:
Wow. A very bad idea indeed. There of course needs to be great effort to curb the spread of child porn and other sorts of abusive material, but to prohibit posession or viewing of porn comprising consensual acts between adults is just daft. Measures to prevent children accessing porn are sensible, but that does not have to mean banning access for everyone. Any kind of legislation that immediately criminalises a large section of the population is inherently quite silly, particularly when it involves the satisfaction of what is ultimately a pretty natural desire.
Also, how is banning the use of credit cards for paying to access porn going to protect children from viewing it? Do many children in Iceland have credit cards?
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DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 21205 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5406 times:
From the article:
Quote: A member of the parliament committee studying the issue, Jonsdottir says a porn ban has "near zero" chance of passing parliament and that she's working to find other ways the government can help protect children from Web porn.
I'll believe it when I see it.
You might as well ban prostitution. Oh wait... we did. And, voila! There is no more prostitution! *deadpan*
An unprecedented move for a Western country. Printing and distribution of porn has been banned for years in the island nation.
Well, good luck with that. I have always thought that porn was really the inspiration for the first primitive browsers -- guys sending racy pics of their g.f.'s to other grad students. No matter what the law might say, or tech fixes put in, I think I'm on reasonable ground in predicting porn will stay a step ahead.
dc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2305 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4974 times:
I don't know how this would work considering there exist ways to circumvent IP bans.
They seem to be rubbing the mint right about now, in Iceland.
Quoting pvjin (Reply 11): I feel huge amount of politicians especially around Nordic countries & Finland have absolutely no idea about what they are doing, they totally ignore all the realities of the world.
No, that's not politicians in the Nordic countries, that's politicians everywhere
DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 8300 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4942 times:
Quoting scbriml (Reply 18): Regardless of whether of not Iclandic kids have credit cards, two of the biggest porn sites on the internet require no payment. Er, so I'm told.
For real, google image and video search is all a kid ever needs. Plus kids are so imaginative at that age that they can look up medical pics, nudist colonies, art, unclothed civilizations, etc and 'corrupt' themselves that way, and I highly doubt any politician would go as far as banning art that shows boobs, but you never know
connies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4868 times:
Quoting Aesma (Reply 13): Actually porn was sent via newsgroups and bulletin boards years before the creation of the web. Mostly by students and professors yes, since the internet was mainly present at universities.
Oh, indeed, porn preceded browsers by quite a while. In fact, it was only 2 years after the first moving pictures (16 frames/sec) in about 1890 or so that the first 'dirty' films were being made. So porn has been around a long time. But browsers made it so much more convenient.
I remember using arpanet and milnet 30+ years ago, just getting into discussion groups, it was fantastic. But then when NCSA released their initial browser, MOSAIC, it was like a veil being raised from my eyes.
2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 9180 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4769 times:
I guess as the old saying goes "You know it when you see it" but aside from this how do they in the Iceland government define porn and how far does it go? I think everyone is in favor of banning child porn and certainly the vast majority wants to to see animal torture and bestiality banned from the net, laws are already in place for most of that around the world, this is a non-starter. The problem is, on top of the absurdity of this policy is how is it defined? Do they mean hard-core, fetish, voyeur or does it go all the way to soft-core and pictures of virtually any women that could cause someone to become aroused?
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rwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4716 times:
Quoting connies4ever (Reply 21): Oh, indeed, porn preceded browsers by quite a while. In fact, it was only 2 years after the first moving pictures (16 frames/sec) in about 1890 or so that the first 'dirty' films were being made. So porn has been around a long time. But browsers made it so much more convenient.
Porn was done on praxinoscopes (think flip-book viewer) well before that.
: Good point. Is the beginning of "Flight" with a nice naked female F/A porn ?[Edited 2013-02-20 03:42:03]
: I had seen this coming as now the rate of posession of child pornography, child molestation/assault and adult rape in Iceland is quite high, if not th
: It sure does. As an indication, the UK legislation that to this day prohibits the import of obscene material dates back to 1876! http://customs.hmrc.
: Well if this is already illegal, how is banning currently legal porn going to help ? Does banning tobacco help fight against marijuana ?
: So you'll ban legal, ok porn to fight already illegal porn? How does that make sense?
: In Iceland, internet porn isn’t, per se, illegal. The law, passed in 1940, states that someone who publishes pornography shall be sent to gaol for
: It just means that Iceland has a lot of people with something seriously wrong in their head. Instead of banning porn the government should sure conce
: I, unfortunately, wholeheartedly agree.
: Agree... I'm in South Korea and they ban internet pornography but there are ways around that. I for example have a VPN... not that that's what I use
: Smuggling and distributing pornographic material must've been a thriving business in the pre-internet years. Don't worry, we won't tell anyone Looks