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Question About Jailbroken Iphones And Int'l Travel  
User currently offlinetrav110 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 536 posts, RR: 3
Posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

So I recently purchased an iPhone 5 after many years as an Android user, and I have a few basic questions about it. I've heard the term "jailbreaking" before, but I'm not really sure what it means or why one would want to do that. Is it like unlocking a regular phone? I've found plenty of tutorials online that show you how to do it, but no mention of why you'd want to.

Also, if I were to travel to the US for some period of time would it be possible to pick up a pre-paid SIM in the states to switch out with my current one so that I am still able to access internet, texting, etc. without paying exorbitant international data rates? (it's something like $10/MB internationally with SaskTel ... yikes). Would doing this require any kind of modification- perhaps jailbreaking- or would I simply be able to switch them out and go? Or is this something I need to take up with my cell carrier? Help!

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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21496 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1174 times:



Quoting trav110 (Thread starter):
So I recently purchased an iPhone 5 after many years as an Android user, and I have a few basic questions about it. I've heard the term "jailbreaking" before, but I'm not really sure what it means or why one would want to do that. Is it like unlocking a regular phone? I've found plenty of tutorials online that show you how to do it, but no mention of why you'd want to.

Also, if I were to travel to the US for some period of time would it be possible to pick up a pre-paid SIM in the states to switch out with my current one so that I am still able to access internet, texting, etc. without paying exorbitant international data rates? (it's something like $10/MB internationally with SaskTel ... yikes). Would doing this require any kind of modification- perhaps jailbreaking- or would I simply be able to switch them out and go? Or is this something I need to take up with my cell carrier? Help!

There are two different issues:

a) "Unlocking" means a provider lock is removed if the device even had one. When you get a "subsidized" phone with a long-running contract the provider lock will prevent you from using it with other SIM cards while your paying off the cost of the device through the contract (and possibly higher usage fees).

A used device should(!) be unlocked anyway. Just insert different SIMs and check if they can be used. If so, your device is already unlocked. If it is still locked, you should return it to the seller and get your money back. The iPhone is available unlocked, so you should get one of these.

For some models there are inofficial "Unlocks" available, but even if they actually work (some can "brick" the device!), they involve a "Jailbreak" and will thus compromise the security of the device.

b) "Jailbreaking" the device means removing most of the security mechanisms which protect you against malware so pirated apps and inofficial system modifications can be installed, but this puts your data at risk as well.

When you're traveling you need an unlocked device. If you can use different SIMs locally, the device should be unlocked and you should be able to use local providers when you're abroad as well.

[Edited 2013-02-20 05:08:00]

User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1126 times:

Quoting trav110 (Thread starter):
So I recently purchased an iPhone 5 after many years as an Android user, and I have a few basic questions about it. I've heard the term "jailbreaking" before, but I'm not really sure what it means or why one would want to do that.

Jail-breaking an Iphone is like rooting and Android phone and Apple frowns upon this and can void the warranty, where Google doesn't really care as Android is Open Source.

Quoting trav110 (Thread starter):
Is it like unlocking a regular phone? I've found plenty of tutorials online that show you how to do it, but no mention of why you'd want to.

People do this because they want apps that Apple hasn't approved for the App store and perhaps want to load another OS on the Iphone's hardware.

Quoting trav110 (Thread starter):
Also, if I were to travel to the US for some period of time would it be possible to pick up a pre-paid SIM in the states to switch out with my current one so that I am still able to access internet, texting, etc. without paying exorbitant international data rates?

Your in Canada so the phone is SIM locked (unless you got it directly from Apple) and the only way to get in unlocked is to cancel the contract and pay those fees as well as an unlocking fee on top of that (that is the policy is with the big 3). IIRC Wind and Koodo are a bit more reasonable doing it (don't know if they are in SK though) after a month or so.

You can try negotiating with your provider to see if they will do it and explain you situation to them, especially if they do not have travel plans available. I'm with Rogers and they do and will try and sell those to me which are actually pretty reasonable.

Unlocking when on a contract requires some leverage to force them though. In my situation I would put my mom on and tell her to threaten Rogers that she will cancel every piece of service she has with them if they don't do it. It works pretty well because they make more keeping us happy than paying the cancellation fees and having us go elsewhere  .

Or you can find a guy to SIM unlock it illegally  .



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User currently offlinemax999 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1113 times:

Quoting trav110 (Thread starter):
Also, if I were to travel to the US for some period of time would it be possible to pick up a pre-paid SIM in the states to switch out with my current one so that I am still able to access internet, texting, etc. without paying exorbitant international data rates? (it's something like $10/MB internationally with SaskTel ... yikes). Would doing this require any kind of modification- perhaps jailbreaking- or would I simply be able to switch them out and go? Or is this something I need to take up with my cell carrier? Help!

I don't use an iPhone so I really can't comment about jailbreaking, but I can comment about the international usage part. I highly recommend trying to get some sort of unlock for your iPhone and purchasing a local SIM card in the country you're traveling to. The money you'll save compared to the roaming charges is worth the effort in getting your phone unlocked. I just came back from a two week trip in Asia...my carrier unlocked my S3 before the start of my trip and I paid only ~15 USD for unlimited data.



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