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Mom Hires Strippers For Sons Bday Party  
User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4789 times:

A mom hired strippers to perform lap dances for her son and his guests at his 16th birthday party....
She wound up getting arrested.... Why couldn't I ever go to parties like this when I was 16...NOT FAIR!


http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/20/us/new...s-teen-party/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1

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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2735 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4775 times:

And of course, back in the Bay Area, there was this.

  



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7859 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4710 times:

Hahahah mom of the year award!   

Honestly, they gotta look at this whole "age of consent" thing, because people are going all slutty and horn-doggy by the time they're 14 these days, and while i'm not saying that it's about the pedophiles, but rather, if someone gets in trouble like this, or if someone gets busted sexting at their age, they have a sexual-predator labeled on their record for life.... too much.



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User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4694 times:

Anyone else notice that the mom is 33 and has a 16 yo child....SMH, babies raising babies

User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2932 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4678 times:

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Thread starter):
She wound up getting arrested



Great, one more idiot off the streets for a while.

Did she get arrested for being dumb or blond or maybe both !



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9676 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4595 times:

What's wrong with "hands on" sex education. 16 is the right age to do it.

This story would attract police over here only oif the party would be too noisy.



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User currently offlinedoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3437 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4544 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
What's wrong with "hands on" sex education. 16 is the right age to do it.

This story would attract police over here only oif the party would be too noisy.

During the strip show, three girls were fondled under their clothing, said Alameda County Deputy District Attorney Deborah Streicher. She said one 15-year-old paid the dancer, Steve Schmitt, $20 to take off his thong underwear and allow the girl to perform oral sex on him.

On Monday, Schmitt pleaded not guilty to four felony counts of sexual misconduct. The 29-year-old Walnut Creek dancer is free on $100,000 bail. He claims he did not know the girls were underage, because an adult called to set up the engagement. He also has said he was assured all the partygoers were at least 18.



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User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3012 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4518 times:
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This is way over the top.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 2):
Honestly, they gotta look at this whole "age of consent" thing, because people are going all slutty and horn-doggy by the time they're 14 these days, and while i'm not saying that it's about the pedophiles, but rather, if someone gets in trouble like this, or if someone gets busted sexting at their age, they have a sexual-predator labeled on their record for life.... too much.
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):

What's wrong with "hands on" sex education. 16 is the right age to do it.

This story would attract police over here only oif the party would be too noisy.

I agree. In this country, age of consent is 16, and I think that's about right. Also, the whole "sex offender" concept in the US should be reviewed in my opinion. I mean, they actually jailed the dancer, and he had to post a $100,000 bail? How crazy is that?

In Switzerland, you get that kind of treatment if you actually rape someone, meaning that someone must not be consenting. Or if someone is under 16, *and* the other person is over 18, *and* someone sues. Common sense, I guess.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40035 posts, RR: 74
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4490 times:

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Thread starter):
Why couldn't I ever go to parties like this when I was 16...NOT FAIR!
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 2):
Hahahah mom of the year award!
Quoting ManuCH (Reply 7):
This is way over the top.
Quoting ManuCH (Reply 7):
the whole "sex offender" concept in the US should be reviewed in my opinion. I mean, they actually jailed the dancer, and he had to post a $100,000 bail? How crazy is that?

  
I agree with all of the above comments. This lady did nothing wrong and the laws in the US need to be reviewed on this matter - as well as many other laws. There are too many laws on the books that make is so easy to end up in jail. This is total b.s.
Leave this lady alone.

The man in the video wearing the glasses seems like he thinks it's b.s. too but is playing along to get on TV.

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
This story would attract police over here only oif the party would be too noisy.

...and that's the way it should be!



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20789 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4464 times:

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 7):
I mean, they actually jailed the dancer, and he had to post a $100,000 bail? How crazy is that?

Well yeah, the girl was 15 and he was 29, and he let her give him a BJ (in the Pleasanton story in Reply #1), that's statutory rape.



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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2735 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4411 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
This story would attract police over here only oif the party would be too noisy.

I trust you mean "noisy enough," for the cops to find out about it & then join the party.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7714 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

I can't honestly claim that I wouldn't have enjoyed that at 16. However, I'm sort of on the fence about the arrest. It's not particularly great parenting, there are other ways to educate about sex etc, but I think arrest is probably over the top.


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User currently offlinehOmsar From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4340 times:

Quoting Airstud (Reply 10):
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
This story would attract police over here only oif the party would be too noisy.

I trust you mean "noisy enough," for the cops to find out about it & then join the party.

Exactly what I was thinking. Just think a cheap plot to a porn movie.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12856 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4332 times:

As that great American Larry Flint famously said, "Relax, it's just sex!"...

It's the capitalist system in action. Given the $20 for oral sex, at least one of the strippers was making above minimum wage, and I imagine they all were, $1 at a time. Given how expensive college is, and given how many in the political system don't support public education, we are seeing the inevitable outcome.

I think strippers should complain about the $1 tip tradition. I was first of legal age in 1980 and the traditional tip was $1 back then too. IIRC minimum wage was around $3 back then.



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7685 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4302 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 3):
Anyone else notice that the mom is 33 and has a 16 yo child....SMH, babies raising babies

100 years ago she'd probably have had 3 or 4 pregnancies by the time she was 15.

I don't see what the big deal with hiring a stripper is all about when kids can get all the hard core porn they want off the internet, buy magazines, shag their partners........................I could go on, some parents are just super nieve or looking for a pay day.

Quoting Airstud (Reply 1):
And of course, back in the Bay Area, there was this.

I have symnpathy for the stripper, I guarantee it's next to impossible to tell a dressed up 14/15/16/17 year old form an 18 year old. Although $20 for a bj is pretty steep, if she was cute I'd let her do it for free.


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9676 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4293 times:

Quoting doug_Or (Reply 6):
During the strip show, three girls were fondled under their clothing,

I was writing about the opening post, not that old 98 story, in that case, with 14 or 15 year old girls involved, I'd object as well. But jailing the stripper and having him to post 100K bail is way over the top again.

You have too much police in the USA and a prison and legal industry that needs to be employed.



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7685 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4275 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 15):
in that case, with 14 or 15 year old girls involved, I'd object as well.

And I bet those 14 or 15 year old girls all dressed up in party clothes looked 18 or 20.

My sister and my wife were able to get into bars and clubs at 14 or so no problems at all, where as I never had a chance.


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6845 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4204 times:

It's the same justice system that will try the same 15-16 yo as adults in criminal cases, go figure !


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40035 posts, RR: 74
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4145 times:

Again, the problem with the US justice (in-justice) system is to lock up as many people as possible. Even though her son was 16, the over zealous prosecutors will avenge this case as if it was a 5 year old being molested by an adult forcing the child in to sex. That is just as sickening!
What happened in this case is legal in most of the world.
It bothers me that this young mother could possibly face a harsher penalty and more jail time than a street thug that deliberately does harm to others. Those f--k ups have advocacy groups, community organizers, apologist, public support and media outlets that make excuses for such trash, yet those that make an honest mistake, naive or poor judgement with good intentions will have the book thrown at them.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 11):
I can't honestly claim that I wouldn't have enjoyed that at 16.

No offense but aren't you gay? Were you out of the closet or still undecided? The reason I ask is because when I was 16, I REALLY would have enjoyed this!   

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 11):
I think arrest is probably over the top.

  

Quoting Aesma (Reply 17):
It's the same justice system that will try the same 15-16 yo as adults in criminal cases, go figure !

As I said before, the justice (injustice) system is always looking for a reason to lock people up.
What's even worse is that most of these dolts in the legal system go on to be come elected politicians in all branches of government - in both parties.



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7685 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4136 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 11):
I can't honestly claim that I wouldn't have enjoyed that at 16.

Wow at 16 my friends and I used to cut school and go to strip clubs, looking a naked chicks is what every 16 year old I knew was most interested in. We had no internet back then, which I'm happy about, looking at real naked women is far more interesting than looking at them on a computer; young guys these days are going to miss out on a lot IMO.


User currently onlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2345 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4115 times:

This is one of those things that has been blown out of proportion. The situation falls under the category of funny news, not terrible mother.

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 19):
looking at real naked women is far more interesting than looking at them on a computer

You are too right. But at least the computer is free! 



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7685 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4113 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 20):

You are too right. But at least the computer is free!

Can't get a lap dance from a computer.


User currently onlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2345 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4112 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 21):
Can't get a lap dance from a computer.

Laptops   



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7685 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 4088 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 22):
Laptops

I don't know what rocks your boat but a hot lap from a laptop ain't the same as a hot nude woman on your lap.


User currently offlineFallap From Denmark, joined Jan 2009, 356 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 4059 times:

Bless this noble woman. Humanity needs more like her. Hopefully justice will prevail, and she will be cleared of these wrong accusations.

25 Post contains images PHLBOS : If one reads through the various comments inside the OP's linked-article; IMHO, there's one comment that stands out and addresses a few things that ma
26 Revelation : Depends if you think sex is idiotic or not.
27 TheCommodore : Its not so much about the hiring of the stripper per se, but more about the fact that the Mother did it for her son. I would feel extremely awkward i
28 Post contains images EA CO AS : I guess she figured it would be cheaper and earn him more friends than buying him a car.
29 ltbewr : Deep down, you all know that the mother was very wrong and broke reasonable laws in her hosting this party where she provided basically prostitution t
30 Airstud : I don't have the URL for that thing that DocLightning so often posts. If he were here, and if the subject were male strippers, we'd surely see the ol
31 Post contains links Revelation : A more up-to-date report says: So it seems to have been a fairly controlled environment with more than just one parent present. Ref: http://abcnews.g
32 Post contains links and images AeroWesty :
33 DeltaMD90 : Where is Doc? But I believe if you had pics of the stripper doing things to underage guys we'd probably get a visit by the party van...
34 mariner : I can't work out why that is a problem. mariner
35 TheCommodore : The very idea that sex is on the mind of your mother.... and she's thinking of you.. I find it a bit off putting. And would you really want to be in
36 mariner : I think it's considerably healthier than the relationship than I had with my mother - or my father - neither of whom would even discuss sex with me,
37 TheCommodore : Well, I'm sorry about that Mariner, but times were different then, and its all relative to the time we live I suppose. I know full well that my paren
38 Revelation : I'm not getting how your lack of comfort about communicating about sex with your parents has anything to do with this parent and her son. Personally,
39 Superfly : She may end up paying a huge fine simply because the government is broke at all levels.
40 Aesma : When I was a kid I did lots of camping with my parents and once, in Italy we befriended that Nordic family that was very involved in the sexual educa
41 Superfly : Damn, why couldn't I meet those kind of girls when I was in high school?!?!?!?!
42 DeltaMD90 : I'm sure healthy parent-child discussions and attitudes towards sex can exist, but even if it is strange to you, the awkwardness is very much alive i
43 CalebWilliams : It's one thing for you to want your children to practice safe sex, it's another thing to hire a stripper for your 16 year-old son's birthday party.
44 Post contains images mariner : Of course. My grandfather died when my grandmother was still quite young and my grandmother took a female partner for the rest of her life. Her child
45 Mir : So would I, but there are kids who wouldn't, and I'm not going to judge them by my own moral standards. First of all, the "endangering the welfare of
46 Superfly : That is very true. Combined that with our societies lust to 'go after' someone, judge them in the court of public opinion, a media hell-bent on sensa
47 Post contains images tugger : Mom: Mom with son: Son with mom's present: Mom after reporting of son's present: Yes I agree, we very much overreact about sexual stuff here in the U
48 Post contains links and images N751PR : I swear I was having deja vu when I saw this thread! Mom Indicted For Hiring Stripper For Teen (by CORULEZ05 May 29 2005 in Non Aviation) Couple Hire
49 Post contains images TheCommodore : Some people should be locked up for there own good. And lets not forget about the son and the embarrassment and humiliation he must be going through.
50 mariner : Or anger perhaps - at his mom getting locked up. mariner
51 DeltaMD90 : I would definitely be embarrassed if I were him, though it seems like him and his mom differed from us... the fact that she would do this indicates t
52 seb146 : From what I see: A boy getting female strippers is hecka cool but a girl getting male strippers is the worst thing ever. What adults do with their mo
53 TheCommodore : Could be too, who knows ? But one thing is for sure, and that is, that his mothers actions directly affected "many" kids there, not only her own ? An
54 kiwirob : That is very unusual in this day and age. Scandinavians aren't as liberal as they used to be.
55 AeroWesty : Because he's a minor, most likely, even though he's not charged in this. I don't think it's all that cut and dried. One of the big problems with the
56 Mortyman : Seriously, what does her employer have to do with this ?!
57 kiwirob : Who said that?
58 TheCommodore : Because, it might go towards establishing the fact that the woman has very poor judgement, and this may effect her work, especially if she has to mak
59 AeroWesty : While not altogether common, some employers have morality clauses as part of their employment agreements. They kick in if what you've done in your pr
60 zrs70 : Looks like the parent ultimately taught her son that a woman's body is nothing more than a toy that can be bought. If the son wants to pay for sex, le
61 Revelation : Does that include yourself? Or he thinks it's weird that everyone's throwing such a hissy fit. Right, they should go to a place where there are no fe
62 RussianJet : Seriously? You must know perfectly well that there's a world of difference between being around females in general, and being in an establishment whe
63 DeltaMD90 : You don't know if that is what she taught. That is just your opinion. I'm not a stripper kind of person, but I believe you can have harmless, stupid
64 Revelation : They are both about government regulation of sex.
65 Flighty : Honestly? This seems pretty harmless. Why the police would be involved is most likely a prurient interest on their part.
66 RussianJet : In an absurdly broad sense, yes. In terms of the actual thing under discussion there, barely any relevance.
67 Revelation : Maybe in your mind, but I don't see a difference between the government deciding how much clothes a female must wear and how little she can wear and
68 WarRI1 : We have come a long way from the days of my maturing, and my children's. I cannot fathom what this woman was thinking. What was she trying to teach? I
69 seb146 : That seems to be the mindset in society. I don't understand what you are talking about. There are many more appropriate venues for an 11 year olds' b
70 RussianJet : Indeed. We can of course discuss the logic though. I'm not sure why there is any comparison between the issue of religiously-dictated dress standards
71 TheCommodore : One would have thought so, unfortunately not in this case. Not really sure where you are going with this....? But yes, if I was that bloody stupid, I
72 Revelation : It's not the government's role to say, IMHO. I disagree. The idea is to have fun, and if pretty women make you happy, so be it. I've been at Hooters
73 RussianJet : Oh sure, I meant that it's usually religiously-driven in origin though. Of course it becomes law in many countries. But specifically with regard to t
74 seb146 : I never said anything about the government and Hooters. It would be nice if you would read what I wrote. It's there for everyone to see. But, I will
75 Post contains images DeltaMD90 : Lol... Seb, besides the name, I don't think there was anything intentionally gay with Five Guys
76 seb146 : LOL There was really no other way to word that!
77 Revelation : People getting thrown in jail for what amounts to vague and arbitrary reasons. We all draw the line as to where the government should step in at diff
78 seb146 : You commented on something you thought you saw. About how you thought I said something about 11 year olds being regulated against going to Hooters wh
79 tugger : Everything we do or is done around us "directly affects" myriad other people, You writing here is "affecting" other people. So OK it, affected others
80 135mech : Or, could be problematic if she works at some place like Chick-Fil-A (or other similar company) where they are a Christian based family business and
81 RussianJet : Always going to be tricky deciding the minutiae of the thin end of the wedge, but I don't think that should put anyone off making some sensible rules
82 Revelation : No, my comments were in the context of the thread. Let's go through this. The area of misunderstanding is: You can chose to interpret this two ways:
83 seb146 : I am not understanding why you do not understand that I know, believe, and understand that taking an 11 year old to Hooters is not up to the governme
84 zippyjet : And I didn't get my invite? I'm a wee bit p.o'd. I'd be the life of the party and handle those strippers.
85 LMP737 : There's a big difference between a parent discussing sex with their child and paying for strippers to attend their birthday party. Seems to me this m
86 Post contains images PHLBOS : Bingo! You hit the nail right on the head. And she would also be married and her husband would be working to bring home the proverbial bacon. This te
87 DeltaMD90 : Not that it excuses anything, but I see some adults post some crazy stuff on Facebook... it's not an age-related maturity thing, it's a different typ
88 TheCommodore : Then this is perhaps where some "Government regulation" comes into it... Dare I say the two words together ! There a plenty of stupid people out and
89 DeltaMD90 : Are you saying you want the government to regulate what you put on FB??? I think I'm misunderstanding your post
90 TheCommodore : More to do with what Revelation and Seb 146 were on about. Whats a suitable age to go to strip clubs and alcohol serving venues, and the general laws
91 mariner : When I was a bit younger - until I was forty in fact - the "standards set by society" made me a criminal liable for prison sentence if convicted for
92 TheCommodore : You'd be surprised ! Mariner, You are a worldly man, surely you recognize the fact that society's attitudes, about all sorts of things, change over t
93 DeltaMD90 : I think a big difference is age of consent. Have no problem with 2 adult males bumpin nasties, but what about 2 14 year old boys? Boys will be boys..
94 mariner : I don't feel badly done by - LOL - quite the reverse. I loved my my younger days and being "out" despite being a putative criminal. We sure had fun (
95 TheCommodore : Good, nothing worse than bad memories of things past. Nor do I for a moment. If I inferred that previously then its my mistake. Aint life complicated
96 seb146 : There are many layers to many issues regulated by the government.
97 Post contains links Revelation : Well given that it really was a quote, you could just have plugged it into a search engine: https://www.google.com/search?q=The+birthday+party+took+p
98 PHLBOS : 2 things: 1. Thanks for posting the link, it lists some other evidence that could be viewed as more incriminatiing (I will get to that in a minute).
99 dtw9 : Per her facebook page she was put on unpaid administrative leave today.
100 seb146 : And a keg too? Again: Jurisdictions I am familiar with recognize 18 as the age of concent. I am fine with an 18 year old seeing strippers. However, i
101 Pellegrine : I'm with the camp that doesn't see a problem with this really. The only problem I see is that the parents of the other teenagers at the party might be
102 PHLBOS : I'm well aware of that as well as the potential risk(s)/liability of having minors present and participating in 'adult' activity (and for the record,
103 Post contains images Superfly : Sorry PHLBOS but I've never been to a bowling alley that had a 'no stripping policy'.
104 DeltaMD90 : It's lower in a lot of other places... I guess that's why it's so iffy. Call me an immoral youngin, but IDK I think 16 should be the age. Yeah they'r
105 seb146 : If the son is younger than the age of consent in the jurisdiction, the parent needs to face some punishment. The stripper should have asked for ID be
106 Post contains images Revelation : I've been to one where I was glad the ladies were keeping their clothes on! Requiring some of the ladies (and the gents) there to wear burkhas would
107 Post contains images PHLBOS : Were these clothing optional bowling alleys, by any chance, all located in 'Frisco? If so, no comment. All kidding aside, as far as any no stripping
108 Post contains images DeltaMD90 : Depends how shady the establishment is Not a fan of them myself, but when in Rome (or Bourbon Street in this case lol)
109 PPVRA : Restricting someone's most fundamental human rights for a prolonged period of time - i.e., throwing someone in jail - is a very serious thing that sh
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