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Ikea Meatballs Withdrawn Over Horse Meat Fears.  
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26795 posts, RR: 58
Posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2870 times:

Breaking on Sky News IKEA has been the latest to be caught up in the horse meat scandal.

Ikea Meatballs Withdrawn Over Horsemeat Fears

A batch of meatballs has been taken off the menu at Ikea's UK stores after traces of horsemeat were discovered in the supply chain.

The Czech Republic's state veterinary administration - which made the discovery - said the 1kg packs of frozen meatballs were labelled as beef and pork.

Ikea said it had taken the result "seriously", and was removing meatballs from sale in countries across Europe.

The checks were carried out in response to a European-wide scandal that erupted last month when tests carried out in Ireland revealed some beef products also contained horsemeat.

http://news.sky.com/story/1056625/ik...lls-withdrawn-over-horsemeat-fears

It seems this is not going away anytime soon. I wonder how long before M&S and Sainsburys are effected. I actually was in IKEA last week and had them. No side effects so far  

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User currently offlinesebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
It seems this is not going away anytime soon. I wonder how long before M&S and Sainsburys are effected. I actually was in IKEA last week and had them. No side effects so far  

I had IKEA meatballs last week also. I can feel my teeth growing now ...  


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2848 times:

I've found it astonishing that there is this much horsemeat to go around. It's popping up all over Europe.


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User currently offlinesebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2):
It's popping up all over Europe.

It's called the mafia ... I really hope some heads will fall down now.


User currently offlinewingman From Seychelles, joined May 1999, 2185 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2810 times:

IKEA does meatballs? It beggars belief that no one caught on earlier, once you saw the horse leg in the plastic baggie and then went through the instructions on assembling your meatball. I guess Europeans have been eating Seabiscuit for so long they can't tell the difference between a real filet and Kentucky Meatballs anymore.

User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2801 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2812 times:

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
Ikea Meatballs Withdrawn Over Horsemeat Fears

Can't the consumer be careful for the meat he chooses? I mean, we're talking IKEA meatballs, so I guess the customer has cut the meat, mince it, spice it and roll it in balls himself, no?    

Edit: nooooo, wingman beat me to it! Damn! Big grin

[Edited 2013-02-25 06:21:24]


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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4895 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

I wish the Czechs would check this out more carefully. The rest of us, meanwhile, need to pronounce 'hors d'oeuvres' more carefully when ordering.

User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3299 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2749 times:
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Honestly, I don't get the fuss. I understand the premise of advertising as beef/pork and using horse, but why the outrage? False advertising (in the name of money-saving) happens all over the world. Horse meat is delicious (one of my favorites) and other than its taboo nature in many countries, I'm certainly not going to stop eating Ikea meatballs (or Burger King in England).

Give me a horse steak and I'm a happy man, so this doesn't bother me.

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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 8):
Honestly, I don't get the fuss.

I understood that the biggest fuss is that the horsemeat comes from unregulated animals, allowing all sorts of drugs not allowed into the human food chain to be consumed, not to mention the possible diseases present in the carcasses.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6473 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2):
I've found it astonishing that there is this much horsemeat to go around. It's popping up all over Europe.

Well on top of European horses we also get North American ones so there is plenty. A new law banning horse-drawn carriages in Romania also sent many horses to the butcher.



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User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6774 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2725 times:

If Ikea meatballs have horsemeat, then show me where to sign up.

I don't care if it's Trigger or Black Beauty. Ikea's meatballs are the bomb. I WOULD KILL FOR THEM.

 


User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6056 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2716 times:
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Quoting Aesma (Reply 9):
A new law banning horse-drawn carriages in Romania also sent many horses to the butcher.
Quoting sebolino (Reply 3):
It's called the mafia

What is the scrap value of a horse? I would imagine it is fairly low so when the slaughter house mixes the meat up with pork or beef he can make a excellent profit. I can see why crooked butchers would be all over this scam. It reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Fat Tony gets the school milk concession and uses rat milk.

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 7):
Give me a horse steak and I'm a happy man, so this doesn't bother me

I doubt it bother me either. I'd give it try if I saw it on a menu. I had caribou a few years ago. I never had it, saw it on a menu and tried it. I liked it too. I am sure I've eaten all kinds of stuff I didn't know about.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2713 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 11):
What is the scrap value of a horse?

I read recently in one of the news stories that horsemeat of this calibre can sell for as little as 60¢ vs. $2.25 or so for beef (in U.S. dollars per pound).



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User currently offlineJJJ From Spain, joined May 2006, 1760 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 12):

I read recently in one of the news stories that horsemeat of this calibre can sell for as little as 60¢ vs. $2.25 or so for beef

OTOH, horse meat bred specifically for meat (horse steaks, mostly) commands a much higher price than the equivalent beef.


User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5383 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2692 times:

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
Ikea Meatballs Withdrawn Over Horsemeat Fears

So that's why the are so damned good!  
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 8):
I understood that the biggest fuss is that the horsemeat comes from unregulated animals, allowing all sorts of drugs not allowed into the human food chain to be consumed, not to mention the possible diseases present in the carcasses.

Then just allow it a regulate it. Problem solved regarding the "horsemeat outrage". Of course it does not solve the issue of unregulated sources entering the food chain but in truth that is another issue entirely.

Tugg
(Edited to add "not" after does. I noticed it after zckls04's post but he interpreted my post correctly.)

[Edited 2013-02-25 09:20:35]


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User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1247 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

Quoting tugger (Reply 14):
Then just allow it a regulate it. Problem solved regarding the "horsemeat outrage". Of course it does solve the issue of unregulated sources entering the food chain but in truth that is another issue entirely.

Tugg

Indeed. There could be tons of unregulated cows in all these products, but DNA testing wouldn't have revealed them.

Unless prices for supermarket burgers shoot up after this fiasco is done, you can probably assume there's still tons of unregulated meat in them. You simply can't make 16 burgers for 99p without cutting corners.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2634 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 15):
There could be tons of unregulated cows in all these products, but DNA testing wouldn't have revealed them.

Supposedly the meat is tested for non-allowed pharmaceuticals, which would/should show the presence of unacceptable beef. (Or am I overthinking this?)



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7787 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2627 times:

What exactly is the scandal? Is horsemeat of lower quality? I've only had horse once, in Switzerland, and it was delicious!


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User currently offlineoffloaded From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 869 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2616 times:

Quoting sebolino (Reply 3):
It's called the mafia

It's also called the EU. Free movement of goods means just that, so killed in Romania, exported to France, minced in Luxemburg, cheese added in Holland, packaged in Ireland, sold in the UK is entirely possible and legal. (The chain is legal, not labelling horse meat as beef I mean!)



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User currently offlinewingman From Seychelles, joined May 1999, 2185 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2595 times:

Sorry Graham.

I honestly don't see the problem with eating the meat, but I'm sure sales would take a bit of a hit if the "meatballs" were more accurately labeled as "horse-balls".

I personally have no interest in eating the stuff. For some reason I just see certain animals in this world as having earned the right, through either a millennia of dedication to mankind (e.g. horses and dogs) or sheer intelligence (whales and dolphins), not to be eaten by us.

That's a hell of a plight for those Romanian horses to have gone from a brutal existence towing wagons to being summarily butchered to end up in IKEA as something they never were...BEEF! Think of that final injustice, the complete lack of recognition and respect for what was no doubt a lifetime of hard knocks.

At least give the poor beasts their due. The package should've read "Tortured Romanian Horse Balls with Spaghetti".


User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6056 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2587 times:
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Quoting zckls04 (Reply 15):
You simply can't make 16 burgers for 99p without cutting corners.

16 for 99p??? Either those are some small burgers or some really low quality beef. There is dump (but great) diner near me that sells 6 burgers for $5 and they aren't very big.

Quoting wingman (Reply 19):
The package should've read "Tortured Romanian Horse Balls with Spaghetti".

I would buy that just for the label on the package.

Quoting JJJ (Reply 13):

OTOH, horse meat bred specifically for meat (horse steaks, mostly) commands a much higher price than the equivalent beef.

I would think so because the supply is smaller. That is also true of kangaroo meat.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 12):
horsemeat of this calibre can sell for as little as 60

So they must buy the horse for a lot less than that.



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User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2579 times:

This is what happens when the kitchen staff is horsing around with the recipe.

This will be nagging the executives for a long time.

Ikea's sweedish meatballs has a new brand name - Secretariat.

        


User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5383 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2578 times:

Quoting bohica (Reply 21):
Ikea's sweedish meatballs has a new brand name - Secretariat.

Wait, you're talking IKEA here, it would be "Sekritat"   

Tugg



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2264 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2567 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 9):
A new law banning horse-drawn carriages in Romania also sent many horses to the butcher.

That can't be the reason. Romanians don't respect silly EU imposed laws. Driving in the Balkans is nearly impossible with these things on the roadways.

But I've never heard of this law...

Quoting wingman (Reply 19):
"Tortured Romanian Horse Balls with Spaghetti".

LOL.

Quoting wingman (Reply 19):
For some reason I just see certain animals in this world as having earned the right, through either a millennia of dedication to mankind (e.g. horses and dogs) or sheer intelligence (whales and dolphins), not to be eaten by us.

Also, cat meat should be banned because you just don't eat your superiors.



Oh, but if these are Romanian horses, don't worry, they haven't eaten chemicals in their lives. No one has the money to fatten a horse by giving it hormones or what not. It's not like in the USA.

[Edited 2013-02-25 11:18:08]

User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1247 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 20):
16 for 99p??? Either those are some small burgers or some really low quality beef. There is dump (but great) diner near me that sells 6 burgers for $5 and they aren't very big.

Actually I made a mistake on that- it's only 8 burgers. So they are 12 and a half pence each. Still terrifyingly cheap.



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25 rwessel : Two problems: labeling, and the Europeans are rather stricter about that sort of thing than the U.S. is. And second, the horses in question are mostl
26 Aesma : Well it's allowed and regulated. In fact horse meat has seen a boom since the beginning of the scandal here, horse butchers are very happy. You forgo
27 dc9northwest : I wouldn't trust the news too much... What I can say is that the Romanian press says this is a 6 year old law that's selectively enforced at best (Ro
28 Post contains images TheCommodore : Yeah right ! Suspicious brown balls in plastic packets, produced by a furniture maker, who uses cheap labor to produce its goods. Very credible. Woul
29 Post contains images srbmod : I hear the Corleone family has some experience in that, just ask Jack Woltz..... Needs some umlauts..... Sëkrität
30 Post contains images Doona : Swedish meatballs generally contain both beef and pork, but we don't call them "cowandpigballs". "Meatballs" is still perfectly suitable, no matter w
31 Post contains images Stabilator : Are we talking about the IKEA that sells incredibly frustrating furniture here in the states? I was unaware of them hawking horseballs??
32 zippyjet : Another reason why Ikea uses those strange hard to spell and pronounce Sweedish names for their goods both edible and the furniture. Isn't anything sa
33 Post contains links and images AeroWesty : Yeppers. Both in the restaurant and frozen in the food hall by the exit. Don't forget the lingonberry preserves to go with 'em!
34 Quokkas : There's the rub. It is one thing to pass a regulation. It's quite another to enforce it. In every country that you go to you here business whining ab
35 dragon-wings : When did Ikea start selling food?? I had no idea Ikea sold food. I haven't been to Ikea in years and the last time I was there it was just furniture.
36 ltbewr : Apparently this isn't a problem with the IKEA meatballs or any meat produce in the USA as horse butchering is very strictly limited here. In fact most
37 Aesma : The main problems isn't regulations it's the fact that it makes economic sense to have 5 or more intermediaries from the animal to the finished produc
38 CXfirst : Ikea is famous for its meatballs! One doesn't go there without getting a meatball lunch. I'm actually having IKEA meatballs for dinner today, granted
39 L-188 : Dragon wings. Swedish Meatballs are to IKEA as Hot Dogs are to COSTCO.
40 Post contains links and images OA260 : Hopefully the meatballs will be back again GBP£20 for all this ! Bargain
41 Post contains images zippyjet : Not all but many of these inspectors do it the government way, less i And of course they got one of those funny (at least to me sounding names) like
42 Post contains images Revelation : Somehow I read this as "Ikea's Balls Withdrawn Over Horsemeat Fears"! Ah, that's why the long face!
43 ikramerica : Well in the us, even though they haven't found the horse, I have noticed they altered the texture of the meatballs so they are much finer, much easier
44 Post contains images TheCommodore : I think I'd rather eat pure horse meat, than manufactured meatballs of dubious origin ! Have a look at the nutritional value of these things A whoppi
45 Superfly : I was horsing around the new Ikea here in Bangkok last week and I ate one of these meatballs. It left my voice a little horse but I'm in stable condit
46 Post contains images andrej :
47 Post contains images zkojq : This is only half the problem. The other half of the problem is that the work-horses are very unlikely to have taken certain anti-biotics, and other
48 Post contains images sebolino : I fail to see what it would change. The meat was advertised as beef and it was horse ... You can write what you want on the package, it won't stop cr
49 Nitrohelper : When it comes to eating horse meat, most in the US. say naaahy...
50 Post contains images Revelation : I'm glad it didn't give you the trots! [ObRef: Around here at least, 'the trots' is slang for diarrhea...]
51 RomeoBravo : I bet if we actually knew what was in half the things we ate or how they were prepared, the last thing we'd be worrying about is the fact that there w
52 starbuk7 : Has anyone died or gotten sick after eating these supposed "horse meat" meatballs?? If not, then I do not see what the big deal is. I know when I was
53 Post contains images sebolino : [Edited 2013-02-28 06:40:01]
54 Aesma : The crooks was one of the many intermediaries (possibly a team of two intermediaries). Not the final brand. Now, if those brands deemed that people w
55 comorin : Giddy up!
56 Revelation : This topic is pretty lame. I don't want to cause a stirrup, but perhaps it should be put down?
57 sebolino : OK, but what will stop intermediaries to buy meat in Romania, Poland or Noth Corea if it's cheaper ? And to put horse, dog or rat in place of beef ?
58 OA260 : No offence but I wouldnt trust French beef anymore than Romanian or otherwise. I think alot of people have seriously gone back to local butchers in t
59 Aesma : Controllers will stop them, of course.
60 zkojq : In this case nothing, but that wasn't really the point. If people know what country a food product comes from, they can choose to avoid products from
61 RomeoBravo : Quite possibly. Certainly when I go abroad to less developed country i put a bit more scrutiny into the things i eat. I think you could plead fraud i
62 ikramerica : Have you been to Ikea's cafe? Most of their food is very fresh and healthy. It leads one to believe the meatballs, though traditionally not good for
63 Post contains images Revelation :
64 TheCommodore : Ahhhhh, The tricks of persuasive marketing. Ikea is very good at this. Well nobody knew that at the time of course. But lets not forget, Horse meat i
65 Post contains images oldeuropean : Horsemeat in IKEA's meatballs? And I thought they were made of wood chips.
66 sebolino : I guess you missed the point. Replace "French" by anything else, depending on the country you're living in.
67 sebolino : Are you serious ? We're given horse/crap mix instead of beef for months and perhaps years. During all this time, nothing stopped the crooks.
68 sebolino : Rat, dog and snake is not dangerous either. But it happens that when you bought beef, you want to eat beef.
69 RomeoBravo : Most likely you want to eat the thing you ate last time. Which may well have been horsebeef too.
70 Quokkas : This is true to an extent. We trust that what the regulations state will be followed by the manufacturers. We trust that what the label states will b
71 Post contains links and images OA260 : What next Ikea Pulls Almond Cakes Over 'Faecal' Bacteria Ikea has pulled a batch of almond cakes from its restaurants in 23 countries after bacteria n
72 Aesma : I wonder what's going on with China. They send lead contaminated toys, fake medicine, poisonous baby food our way, and are now squeamish about some re
73 Post contains images zippyjet : A passenger came to my gate the other day singing the Mr. Ed song exactly like Mr. Ed back in the day. He even went Willlberrrrr. And people that eat
74 Superfly : Wild horses could not drag me away from Ikea meatballs.
75 Nitrohelper : It behooves to ask, when do you think IKEA will corral this problem?
76 Post contains images Revelation : Great: Ikea has gone from selling horse balls to poo cakes...
77 Post contains images Flighty : Well said!
78 Post contains links and images TheCommodore : Well, they might end up killing you instead of the other way round ! http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...hat-pose-serious-health-risks.html
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