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The Ipad: I Finally Caved In...  
User currently offlinevarigb707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (1 year 6 months 20 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

.. and i've purchased my first Ipad. So far, I have avoided getting another portable device. As it is i already have 2 notebooks, 2 ipods, 2 mobile phones, so i decided i didnt need another 'thing' i had to carry around.

But I found a great price for one (ipad) with 16gb, smart cover and a dock station. I couldn't pass. I am loving it. Although I will still have to carry 2 mobile phones, and on occasion a notebook. But nevertheless, it was a good purchase and the cost benefit was worth it.

How many of you still haven't got an ipad? For what reason?
That's it. Cheers.

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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5678 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 19 hours ago) and read 2247 times:

Me. I'm one of those people who refuse to become an Apple victim: I'm the proud owner of a Mk 2 I-pod, and that's it. I've no doubt the I-pad is a terrific, if overpriced, device, but apart from anything else, having been the victim of a minor break in recently where my laptop was stolen, I have no intention of providing the local low-life with high value gadgets.

So instead of replacing the laptop I bought a Prestigio (no, I hadn't heard of them either) tablet, which does everything I want it to do, at a third the price. And one of my mates, who owns an I-pad, reckons he'll probably go for one, or something similar, when he's due for a change.


User currently offlineThunderboltDrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 595 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 18 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

Quoting varigb707 (Thread starter):
How many of you still haven't got an ipad? For what reason?
That's it. Cheers.

I don't have one and neither will I acquire one. Maybe an Android pad or win8 pad but not an Ipad.



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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 18 hours ago) and read 2200 times:

I have an iPad and regret getting one. Not using it nearly as much as I intended, and something smaller and cheaper, like the Nexus 7 would have been sufficient. There are some benefits, most of which could be covered by the Nexus, and there is only one big thing I use the iPad for that the Nexus wouldn't do, and that is Airplay from spotify to the music system in the house. However, I could have invested in an Android solution to that, but opted for Apple TV to connect to the system due to me already having an iPad.

I've also moved mostly away from Apple to Android, and hence the iPad feels a bit backward to me.

-CXfirst



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User currently onlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8703 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 17 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

I don't have or want one; my Apple MP3 player, laptop and mobile phone really are enough - and I keep the iPod solely out of nostalgia. Haven't used it much since I got the phone.


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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6576 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 17 hours ago) and read 2169 times:
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Quoting CXfirst (Reply 3):
and that is Airplay from spotify to the music system in the house. However, I could have invested in an Android solution to that,

Is there one?



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User currently offlinenjxc500 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 14 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 5):
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 3):
and that is Airplay from spotify to the music system in the house. However, I could have invested in an Android solution to that,

Is there one?

In fact AppleTV airplay media player can stream to those apple devices, from an android device, for free.

I haven't bought an Ipad, they're nice, but I don't think I'd get too much use out of it, I bought an android tablet for $100 and it gets light use. I still prefer a laptop.


User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3301 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 12 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

If and when I decide to purchase a tablet, it will be to effectively replace my laptop...So it has to be able to maintain just about the same level of productivity, the height of which is usually being able to seamlessly edit/copy/move/drag/paste items within spreadsheets. But until the iPad receives support for a mouse, I will never own one for this reason...and a stylus doesn't cut it. It's just designed too much for the casual email/book reader, internet surfer, "lite" games player types. So there will probably be an Android or Windows tablet in my near future.


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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8223 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 11 hours ago) and read 2015 times:

I don't have one, but I did buy my wife one about 18 months ago. But then I bought her a new MacBook Air in December to replace the one our grandson spilled chocolate milk over.

Looking at my options, my next purchase is going to be a new iMac. The new beauty with a 27" display. It replaces a G5 20" iMac that was ordered on the day it was announced. Everything functions on it, but the new, larger jpeg files make it look like a half ton truck trying to move a 5 ton load up a steep hill.

My does, BTW, let me use her iPad whenever I want. I can even get over the pink cover - most of the time.


User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21511 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 9 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 3):

I have an iPad and regret getting one. Not using it nearly as much as I intended, and something smaller and cheaper, like the Nexus 7 would have been sufficient. There are some benefits, most of which could be covered by the Nexus, and there is only one big thing I use the iPad for that the Nexus wouldn't do, and that is Airplay from spotify to the music system in the house. However, I could have invested in an Android solution to that, but opted for Apple TV to connect to the system due to me already having an iPad.

I've also moved mostly away from Apple to Android, and hence the iPad feels a bit backward to me.

-CXfirst

I'm with you. My wife and I use or iPad3 sometimes. But honestly, I prefer using my MacBook Pro for most things, and my phone for most other things. My wife uses her phone for most things, and her Toshiba laptop for remote login to work (requires Remote Desktop, so can't use VNC). We use the iPad for some things, but it is frankly too heavy to hold for any length of time, has too sharp an edge to rest on your body, and the covers all have sharp edges too.

We use the iPad because we have it and don't want to feel as if we wasted our money (but we kind of feel we did anyway), but if we didn't have the iPad, we would not miss it at all.

The iPad mini shape is far more ergonomic, and Apple is going to replace the iPad with one shaped like the mini, and hopefully lighter. But frankly, I wish I had the mini...



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User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1329 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 8 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

I don't have one. I can't think of a reason I would use a tablet, and I'm deliberately not trying to think too hard so I can spend the money on a nice bottle of wine instead!


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User currently offlineWilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8995 posts, RR: 76
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 2 hours ago) and read 1890 times:
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Quoting varigb707 (Thread starter):
How many of you still haven't got an ipad? For what reason?

I just sold my ipad 2 and bought an Samsung Galaxy Tab. And I prefer the Samsung a lot more than the ipad. but I guess now I will get all the bad comments. I am not a big fan of ipad and apple.   

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User currently onlinegarpd From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2005, 2649 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 1 hour ago) and read 1887 times:

Wilco737, I'm right with ya.

I don't like Apple because of the companies attitude. They think they're god and all must pay penance to them. Sadly, a lot of sheeple listen!

As such, the iDevices are nothing for me. There are many cheaper options out there that do much more.
For instance, I have an Android tablet. It cost me £180 (well, cost Mother that, it was a Christmas present). It does everything the iPad does plus it supports flash, has a micro SD Card slot and HDMI port. The built in speaker sounds better and I get 12 hours of battery life running HD movies.

It weighs less than the iPad and comes with less garish accessories (which are also sensible priced).
Plus, GooglePlay is crammed full of quality apps, some even free. So that's one less thing Apple-Freaks can claim is an advantage

All round my tablet is a far better product than the iPads I've had a go of.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

I don't buy all these new things because I don't need them.

We landed Men on the Moon and built Concorde we did not have mobile ph ones, iPads, iPods and all that. Not even personal computers even less the Internet and e-mails.

Still we accomplished the greatest things in the 1960's that were much more advanced than what we are doing now. The Soyuz technology dating from way back when is the only way we have to send humans to the International Space Station or to anywhere in Space for that fact.

These new gadgets can be useful but they are not in any way advanced. Our old tech was way more advanced than that.

So to answer your question - no iPad.

  

Don't need it - will not buy one just the same as I have not bought anything "Apple" other than old Beatles vinyls back in the days.



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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12098 posts, RR: 49
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1824 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 13):
We landed Men on the Moon and built Concorde we did not have mobile ph ones, iPads, iPods and all that. Not even personal computers even less the Internet and e-mails.




Had we had the technology that exists today then, we could have flew to the moon sooner, created Concorde to be a real viable plane to plow the Sky's.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1816 times:



Quoting varigb707 (Thread starter):
How many of you still haven't got an ipad? For what reason?

Still most people, I would expect. I've got an iPad 3 and use it every day, but people's needs and interests vary, with many options for everybody.

Quoting garpd (Reply 12):
I don't like Apple because of the companies attitude. They think they're god and all must pay penance to them. Sadly, a lot of sheeple listen!

They make certain products and many people like those products, others don't. So what?

Calling other people names just because they disagree with your own preferences and priorities is just childish.

Quoting garpd (Reply 12):
As such, the iDevices are nothing for me. There are many cheaper options out there that do much more.
For instance, I have an Android tablet. It cost me £180 (well, cost Mother that, it was a Christmas present). It does everything the iPad does plus it supports flash, has a micro SD Card slot and HDMI port. The built in speaker sounds better and I get 12 hours of battery life running HD movies.

Great that you're satisfied with it.

Quoting garpd (Reply 12):
It weighs less than the iPad and comes with less garish accessories (which are also sensible priced).

What "garish accessories" do you believe an iPad to come with? My iPad came with a white charger and a cable. That's it. I also bought a grey Smart Cover. If that's "garish" for you, you must have standards of dullness beyond my comprehension...  cool 

Quoting garpd (Reply 12):
Plus, GooglePlay is crammed full of quality apps, some even free. So that's one less thing Apple-Freaks can claim is an advantage

That there are free apps available at all is not a difference. The quality levels are rather different between the platforms, however, both among free and paid apps, among other reasons because of the mandatory quality control in the iOS App Store.

Quoting garpd (Reply 12):
All round my tablet is a far better product than the iPads I've had a go of.

Good for you if you feel that way.

For me personally the high-resolution display of the iPad 3 is the primary reason why I enjoy using it; A high level of security and quality all around (in hardware and software) is another reason for me.

Neither your nor my preference makes either of us "superior" or "inferior" as your harsh judgment above implies – at best it just makes both of us more satisfied and more relaxed to deal with the rest of our respective lives. Angrily attacking other people for making different choices is only a sure way to be and remain frustrated and distracted from better things.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 13):
These new gadgets can be useful but they are not in any way advanced. Our old tech was way more advanced than that.

No, not remotely. In fact, space and aviation technology often explicitly uses less advanced technology because of higher resitance against cosmic radiation and for additional safety margins.

Highly advanced technology by definition is at the edge of what's technologically feasible, and advanced commercial products usually aren't radiation-hardened because you'd have to give up performance and efficiency for that.

Unmanned space vehicles also have become far more advanced than the relatively crude and ancient people transporters existing so far – which is mostly a function of the massive cost of developing and certifying manned space vehicles which has not seen sufficient funding since the end of the cold war on the one hand and a lively commercial and scientific payload launch market on the other.

[Edited 2013-03-01 06:25:13]

User currently offlineairtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 1557 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

I bought an iPad mini 16gb last month and I love it !

Quoting varigb707 (Thread starter):
As it is i already have 2 notebooks, 2 ipods, 2 mobile phones

Something tells me that you're going to buy a second one  
Quoting Wilco737 (Reply 11):
but I guess now I will get all the bad comments. I am not a big fan of ipad and apple

Why should you get bad comments ? It's just a matter of taste...



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 14):
Had we had the technology that exists today then, we could have flew to the moon sooner, created Concorde to be a real viable plane to plow the Sky's.

Oh... really?

If that's all it takes then why haven't they done so and sent Men on the Moon in the last 5 to 10 years?

Only because they can't - while in the 1960's they did it without any of the technology that exists today. no need for iPad and Apple

and Concorde was a real viable plane like it or not - the proof this they haven't been able to do another one the same and are still not capable of it - they reverted to mega-bus mass transport slow speed planes instead where passengers can spend countless hours with their Apple MacBooks, iPads and iPods.

        



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User currently onlinegarpd From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2005, 2649 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1797 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 17):

If that's all it takes then why haven't they done so and sent Men on the Moon in the last 5 to 10 years?

Money



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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12098 posts, RR: 49
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1794 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 17):
and Concorde was a real viable plane like it or not - the proof this they haven't been able to do another one the same and are still not capable of it - they reverted to mega-bus mass transport slow speed planes instead where passengers can spend countless hours with their Apple MacBooks, iPads and iPods

If that was true they would still be flying, alas they are not! Douglas DC9's and American built plane, designed and produced in the 1960's still flying today!



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1792 times:

Quoting garpd (Reply 18):
Money

The money is there. Billions. We had much less money back then than we have now. Much of it had been spent on WWII reconstruction and the Marshall Plan.

Only what I see now - right now, today - the launch of Space X Dragon to Space - will never equal what I saw in the 60s with the Saturn V rocket launchess and the Apollo missions.

A royal bore comparing with thrill and excitement and huge feats with Men on the Moon with much less technological means. I am happy to have witnessed all that from Day 1 of Space Flight with Yuri Gagarin and also the Sputnik.

No MacBooks or iPads or PC or mobile phones were necessary and they did it without all that.

  



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7269 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 17):

Oh... really?

If that's all it takes then why haven't they done so and sent Men on the Moon in the last 5 to 10 years?

Why do we need to go to the moon, we've already been, there was nothing their, no point in going again. Plus some of the reasons why NASA cancelled the program was due to the original mission (landing on the moon) was accomplished, priorities changed and money ran out.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 20):
The money is there. Billions. We had much less money back then than we have now. Much of it had been spent on WWII reconstruction and the Marshall Plan.

No the money isn't there, have you forgotten about the GFC, I'd also imagine that the average American taxpayer would be pretty piss if the Govt gave NASA billions to go back to the moon when the deficit is huge and the country is in a bit of a financial pickle.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 20):


No MacBooks or iPads or PC or mobile phones were necessary and they did it without all that.

They built the pyramids without them too, but that doesn't mean the ancient Egyptians could build the Burj Khalifa.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

New tech does not always work. It is not with Space X as it is now that they will send Men to the Moon. I wish them good luck.

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User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2606 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1748 times:
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Quoting varigb707 (Thread starter):
How many of you still haven't got an ipad? For what reason?

I haven't. I don't own a single Apple product, and it's unlikely that I ever will.

I don't have any tablet yet. If I ever get a tablet, I'd probably get something that runs on Windows 8 like the HP ElitePad.



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8223 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 17):
If that's all it takes then why haven't they done so and sent Men on the Moon in the last 5 to 10 years?

Because those in power get more political contributions by cutting the top tx rate (or adding yet more loopholes) than they do by maintaining a viable space program. Maybe one day we will pay Cuba to launch our satellites for us.  


User currently offlinevirginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 902 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

Quoting garpd (Reply 12):

Funnily enough, that is not true at all.

Apple is an extremely innovative company who create fantastic products and services. They then sell these on to consumers, offer years of support for them and provide unrivalled customer service.

What's wrong with Apple's attitude?



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 26, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

I must say iPads are good for little old ladies who don't want to bother with Windows and still want to be able to use a computer, send messages and look up things on the internet, Facebook, pictures, listen to music or watch videos, etc. It is easy to use and will suit non tech savvy users.


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User currently onlinen229nw From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1946 posts, RR: 32
Reply 27, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Quoting varigb707 (Thread starter):
How many of you still haven't got an ipad? For what reason?

I haven't.

I have no tablet
I have no smartphone

I just haven't needed one and they are expensive.

I will probably cave in and get either a smartphone or tablet in the next year or so...



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User currently offlinevirginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 902 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 26):

And that is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever read. I can tell many people have a hate here for Apple but your arguments are absolutely ridiculous and are as far from the truth as they can possibly be.

Clearly, the number 1 selling tablet in the world is being bought just by old people and people who are not tech-savvy. Lots of tech-savvy people are buying the iPad. I am extremely tech-savvy and have both the iPad 3rd generation (well, I just passed this onto my girlfriend) and an iPad mini.

To me it looks like you are just trying to stir up the thread. You haven't quoted anyone, just made a silly comment about how iPads are only good for old people and non-tecchy people, when you have nothing that backs up your argument.

I'd like to point out that the highest percentage of iPad users are in the 25-34 age group. From many studies it is said the most common iPad owner is a male, aged between 25-34 from a high income household.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 29, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1746 times:

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 28):
To me it looks like you are just trying to stir up the thread.

Not at all. Some day you too will be an old man - like it or not.

I have known and seen a lot of old people with iPads. They are much easier to handle, much easier to carry, and much more practical and user friendly for them than PCs and they don't need to learn Windows to operate them.

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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7269 posts, RR: 5
Reply 30, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29):
much easier to carry

Please explain this, a tablet is a tablet, they are all pretty much the same size and shape, I can't see how one can be easier than another to carry?


User currently offlinevirginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 902 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1722 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29):

But you basically said they are only for old people and non tech-savvy people. I was saying that is not true. I'm unsure as to why you brought up that I am going to be old one day?

I agree with what you have just said, but the way you worded it originally was that iPads are just for old people and non tech savvy people.

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 30):

From my understanding, she was comparing an iPad to a PC, not another tablet.

[Edited 2013-03-01 14:03:13]

[Edited 2013-03-01 14:03:41]


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User currently offlineDFWHeavy From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1698 times:

My lady and I each have iPad 2 and we love them. We use them quite often. They are a magnificent piece of technology.


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User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 33, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 26):

  

That pretty much sums it up. The iPad, IMHO, isn't anything on a grand scale. That's the whole point behind it. It's designed for Students and people who can get away with the basics. My Grandmother loves it, since it's easy for her to browse the net and communicate with family members (ie. e-mail, Skype, etc). It's also got apps she can use for day to day stuff around the house, and getting directions as well. I, however, found myself needing a tablet for personal and business travel. I can't lug my laptop everywhere, especially when everyone is pushing the limits with their carry-on luggage, so I require a tablet that will substitute for a laptop. Apple's lack of compatibility with specific industry applications/software was the biggest turn-off for me. I bought a Samsung Nexus 10, and it does the job a lot better.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 54
Reply 34, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1668 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 26):
I must say iPads are good for little old ladies who don't want to bother with Windows and still want to be able to use a computer, send messages and look up things on the internet, Facebook, pictures, listen to music or watch videos, etc. It is easy to use and will suit non tech savvy users.

I design and implement digital technology for a living. So I can deal with all kinds of technological crap if I have to.

But why would I choose to do that when there are better options available?

It's not just little old ladies or children who appreciate high-quality products. Far from it.

Quoting TheCol (Reply 33):
Apple's lack of compatibility with specific industry applications/software was the biggest turn-off for me. I bought a Samsung Nexus 10, and it does the job a lot better.

Which specific industry applications are you referring to?

[Edited 2013-03-01 17:02:50]

User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8223 posts, RR: 8
Reply 35, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1655 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 26):
I must say iPads are good for little old ladies who don't want to bother with Windows

I would love to have been able to get one for my mother-in-law before she died at 86. Her first use would have been FaceTime with family members around the world. It also would have helped that she could adjust the font size on books she might be reading. And the ability to see pictures.

There is not much else she would have used, but she would have killed for FaceTime.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 26):
It is easy to use and will suit non tech savvy users.

Reality today is that being knowledgable of Windows is less & less important every year. We are out of the 90s and even major companies are opening their doors to Apple products - iPhones & iPads are at the top of the list.

Windows was fine for it's time, but Longhorn never came and Apple blew past them.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29):
Some day you too will be an old man - like it or not.

I am an old man. The prostate has been gone for 8 years, two cervical disks have crapped out, the gall bladder is gone and now a part of a kidney (the part with a tumor the size of a golfball).

And I'm looking at that new 27" iMac with whatever level of lust a guy like me can have. The reason isn't windows - the reason is that I can trust Apple MORE than any other brand. I used to be an avid Dell customer until they screwed their customers with cheap, worthless service. (THat was when I still had a prostate.) I went with the No. 1 in Customer Service.

My reality was that I was flying 100K miles a year for my small business and I needed something I could trust. I could walk into Apple Authorized Centres around the world and get help under warranty.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29):
they don't need to learn Windows to operate them.

The 90's are over. Computers have reached the point where no one outside of IT should be concerned about how to operate Windows.

Quoting TheCol (Reply 33):
The iPad, IMHO, isn't anything on a grand scale

The iPad opened a lot of doors and taught the competition how do do it.

The iPad has been approved by the FAA to replace those huge, heavy chart bags.
The iPad has been approved by the FDA for use in the medical field.
The iPad has exploded in education - all levels from Pre-K to Med Schools.

Quoting TheCol (Reply 33):
I, however, found myself needing a tablet for personal and business travel.

A lot of people are in that situation. My son-in-law flies around the world with his band and uses a Bluetooth keyboard for typing. Perfect for him. The MacBook Air (especially the 11") would have been just as good on the road, but he really wanted the iPad.

Quoting TheCol (Reply 33):
Apple's lack of compatibility with specific industry applications/software was the biggest turn-off for me.

When you consider that the iPad from day 1 could use iPhone apps and today has more apps designed for the iPad than the competition is shouldn't be that big a turnoff . Your specific industry app might be unique, but the iPad established the modern tablet environment and is the first platform for developers working on a new app. After that I believe Android follows, but Apple is the developers first platform.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 36, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1600 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 35):

Windows was fine for it's time, but Longhorn never came and Apple blew past them.

I am running my computer on Windows XP Pro. It is wonderful and should there be any problem with the OS I have always managed to fix it. There is no way I am going to swap to another OS for as long as the computer lives.

I will not buy Mac/Apple products. It is just not my thing but it is good that there are products to suit everybody's taste.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 35):
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29):
Some day you too will be an old man - like it or not.

I am an old man.

This wasn't about you. My answer was for someone else's post.

No one will be able to stop time or live forever. The young will all get old at some point.

    



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User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8003 posts, RR: 5
Reply 37, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

I have an iPad 2 (white 32 GB Wi-Fi) and totally love it. Here's why: I can check my Facebook and Twitter feed, Google and Yahoo! Mail, and surf the web by just turning on the device--no need to wait for a system boot.   I plan to trade it on on the rumored fifth-generation iPad (the new 9.7" model with the iPad mini-like case) as soon as that is released. 

User currently offlinecorinthians From United States of America, joined May 2008, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1522 times:

I was in the hunt for a new tablet last month. The choice was between the Asus Transformer Infinity and the iPad 4 64 Gig version. This thing was essentially going to replace my old laptop and tablet. I had an Asus Transformer, but that thing was getting bogged down and buggy. For the longest time, I was leaning towards the Transformer since it is a lot cheaper and I am used to the Android system. I decided to take a chance and spend more on the iPad and I have no regrets at all.

Now don't get me wrong, the Android tablets coming out are really good. I am sure I would have been happy if I had chosen the Transformer. But the iPad's apps just blow the same Android apps out of the water. Take some of the MS Office suites, like Documents to Go. It sucks on Android and they don't even have a dedicated tablet version. iPad has many dedicated Office suite apps and they're much better and more functional. And some will say that Android has more functionality. That's true...at least in stock form. But if you jailbreak your ipad, then all bets are off. Some of the tweaks will give the iPad the same if not more functionality than any Android tablet. Maybe more because of the quality of the apps. So far, whatever I have been able to do on my Android tablet or laptop, I have been able to do on my iPad, be it through the tweaks or the apps. Sure, you can get a lot of apps on the Android system, but most of them are specifically made for the phones and not the tablets. You can use some of the phone apps on the Android tabs, but not all of them. As far as I know, you can use ALL iOS apps on the iPad and most of them look pretty good, too.

But overall, "it just works" and I have had no problems whatsoever with apps crashing or the system being bogged down. I used to be really critical of apple and their closed system and even their arrogance, but after trying and using the iPad for a little over a week, I am fast becoming a fan.

Oh, and another thing...I had so much trouble writing posts on this site with the transformer no matter what browser I used (Dolphin, Chrome and the stock one). It would load up really slow and it was difficult to navigate through the text window, etc. I am having no problems typing this message on Safari and the virtual keyboard is amazing. Although Swiftkey for Android is pretty awesome as well.


User currently offlinecorinthians From United States of America, joined May 2008, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1516 times:

Another thing. Compare the Flightaware app for both Android and iOS. The iPad's Flightaware app is awesome. The Android one is decent enough, but you really can't compare the two. It's painfully obvious that the developer spent a lot more time designing the iOS app than the Android one.

User currently offlinepanam330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2672 posts, RR: 9
Reply 40, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1488 times:

I haven't gotten one, nor do I ever intend to. I just bought an iPhone 5, and have a retina display MacBook Pro. The iPad is simply redundant given what I have. Now, if I owned a desktop-based iMac, I'd probably see a case for an iPad, but I don't and don't want one. On top of it all, it's an expensive piece of equipment. I chose instead to buy a nicer laptop and phone.

User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8223 posts, RR: 8
Reply 41, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1474 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 36):
I am running my computer on Windows XP Pro. It is wonderful and should there be any problem with the OS I have always managed to fix it. There is no way I am going to swap to another OS for as long as the computer lives.

Can't blame you at all. The last Dells I had (office desktop and notebook for travel) were both XP and I had no problem with the OS. Just the horrid tech support from Dell after they moved it overseas.

I had to use VirtualPC in those days to demo a small Windows app when I moved to a PowerBook. These days Parallels provides a far stronger performance for XP or any other Windows. My only current need for XP is an app for my autopap.

Basically that leaves me unconcerned about the OS, but focused on using it for what ever I want to do and having first rate support when I have a question.

BTW, spotted a headline that reminded me of this thread:

Quote:

Macs dig in as standard business PCs
http://www.infoworld.com/d/consumeri...ig-in-standard-business-pcs-213602

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 36):
The young will all get old at some point.

If they are lucky.

We just had our 50th High School Reunion and I was saddened at the list of schoolmates who have died over the years.


User currently offlinesoftrally From Canada, joined Mar 2012, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1381 times:

Me. I have two personal laptops (an HP DV4, for FSX, and a Thinkpad E320 for portable use), a laptop from school (Thinkpad T410), a Samsung Galaxy S3, and an iPod Touch. Sure, the iPad is appealing, but I wouldn't spend that much money ($429+EHF+tax=$486 for an iPad Mini 32GB) for a device that is more for entertainment than for productivity. A laptop can be used for being productive and for entertainment at the same time. If I do end up getting a tablet, I would probably go with Android, as I personally use many widgets, especially for my school schedule. I always rely on the calendar widget on my SGS3 for my school schedule, which gets tumbled around (don't ask me why). The weather, flashlight, and memo widgets are also really useful.


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User currently offlinecjg225 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

Thanks for helping my stock price! lol

I haven't purchased an iPad because I hate Apple products. I have never spent money on an Apple product despite having a few (two iPods, two iPhones, and an original Apple-II). I have lots of APPL stock, though. Put me through 8 years of college with some left over.

I generally dislike the idea of the tablet computer. I am a dyed-in-the-wool desktop user who dislikes even laptops. But, I was on an interview trip this past week and I realized that, as I come to graduation, I probably will need to invest in a tablet for business travel purposes. If I do get one, it will not be an iPad. I would much rather get an ASUS tablet or other Windows 8/Android tablet. One of my programmers on the project team I led this summer at my internship had a really, really nice ASUS tablet and I thought that, if I wanted to get a tablet, I'd get one like that.

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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5689 posts, RR: 44
Reply 44, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1214 times:
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Quoting cjg225 (Reply 43):
I am a dyed-in-the-wool desktop user who dislikes even laptops.

As am I but I do have a reasonable laptop AMD a tablet.

I commute approx 2hrs a day by train and having a 3G tablet is far more useful to me than the laptop or even the Netbook a used for a short while.

The ability to whip the tablet out look something up or check a detail or calendar quickly makes it far more useful while commuting than opening up a laptop waiting for it to wake from sleep mode(or worse reboot).

The tablet is a Motorola XOOM, not the flashiest or lightest thing around but it gets the job done.

Won't enter into the iPAd/Android/Win 8 debate here, I am about to leave on a 10 day roadtrip** with a "fanboi" who makes our friend Klaus seem like a fruit hating Applephobe!!   So will have plenty of that discussion over the next few days!!

** That is where the large laptop comes in as it will be a fairly photo intensive week or so and the laptop will allow a degree of editing on the road.



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User currently offlinecjg225 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1190 times:

Yeah, I expect that, for business, I'll need a tablet. That's why I will starting looking soon.

Thanks for the info on yours. Just another option to consider that isn't an iPad.



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User currently offlineGrisee08 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 882 times:

I am an Android man. I have tried playing around with iProducts and I guess I am just so accustomed to Windows and Android, that I don't want to learn it. As an example, I was messing around with the iPhone the other day, and I could not figure it out. Granted, I'm sure if I bought one, I'd (duh) learn it, but why spend $599.99 on something like that? I got my Android phone for $99.00 and I don't have auto-correct fails either.


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User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 47, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 803 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 34):
Which specific industry applications are you referring to?

Access to my company e-mail account for starters. The main problem is that most of the companies I've worked for have a number of custom programs by different developers that are cross-networked to each other.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 35):
The iPad has been approved by the FAA to replace those huge, heavy chart bags.

It's a little more complicated that that. Blanket approval hasn't been given to 705 (121) operators. Each individual operator must seek approval for the implementation and use of EFB's, which Transport Canada and FAA are very picky about. The complicated part has to do with what is put on the EFB's, the cross-compatibility of the software, and functionality/ease of access. Depending on the model and manufacturer of the aircraft being operated, setting it all up can become a really expensive rat's nest of software headaches. In a nutshell, we're not just talking about Jepps here. There's a lot of other stuff that needs to be added in order to make the cockpit truly "paperless".

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 35):
Your specific industry app might be unique,

Industry specific, yes. Unique, no.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 35):
When you consider that the iPad from day 1 could use iPhone apps and today has more apps designed for the iPad than the competition is shouldn't be that big a turnoff .

Honestly, I find most "apps" completely useless to me professionally and personally. I grew up without them, and I don't intend on relying on "apps" to run my life.



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