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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31568 posts, RR: 57
Posted (1 year 1 month 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2069 times:

Folks....
My options are :-
Samsung S3
Samsung S4
Sony Xperia Z
I Phone 5

I mainly use the browser & GPS apart from the Talking.......The rest will be an added plus......I used BB in the past but was paying for Apps I never used.

Any suggestions.


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User currently offlinebookishaviator From Australia, joined Jun 2009, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2051 times:

I'm looking forward to this sexy little thing being released later this month to replace my iPhone 4:




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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2648 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 1 day ago) and read 1987 times:
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I'd narrow it down to the iPhone 5 and Galaxy S3. I have the iPhone and I absolutely love it. I'm a bit of an Apple nut though so I might be a little biased. The S3 though might take the iPhone right out of my hand. My best friend has one and I think it is awesome. I love the screen and it actually fits really nice in your hands. If I could set it up to work with the mini apple ecosystem I have set up, I'd be at the At&t store tomorrow buying it.
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User currently offlinebaldwin471 From UK - England, joined Mar 2012, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 23 hours ago) and read 1978 times:

Quoting bookishaviator (Reply 1):

As am i! Pre-ordered already. You want to be locked into a boring OS that hasn't changed in 5 years? Go for the iPhone. You want something new, fresh and with a gorgeous display? HTC One is the way to go.


User currently offlinehawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 1947 times:

Or, if you want to be locked into an OS that may never get so much as a security fix, get any Android phone that's not a Nexus phone. Compare this to Apple, where the latest iOS still runs on the almost 4 year old iPhone 3GS. You may not get all the latest iOS features on the old phone, but at least you know that any problems found are fixed. There are Android phones out there you can buy today that run versions of Android (e.g. 2.x) that are seriously out of date with known vulnerabilities that will never be fixed.

User currently offlinebaldwin471 From UK - England, joined Mar 2012, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 1943 times:

Quoting hawaiian717 (Reply 4):
Or, if you want to be locked into an OS that may never get so much as a security fix, get any Android phone that's not a Nexus phone. Compare this to Apple, where the latest iOS still runs on the almost 4 year old iPhone 3GS. You may not get all the latest iOS features on the old phone, but at least you know that any problems found are fixed. There are Android phones out there you can buy today that run versions of Android (e.g. 2.x) that are seriously out of date with known vulnerabilities that will never be fixed.

And yet there are more features on an Android 2.1 phone than the iPhone 5 running iOS6. What did iOS6 bring over iOS5? Hardly anything at all, and the things it did were things that Android and WP have had for years.



And I've had plenty of updates to my HTC One X. Also you can pretty easily install a custom ROM with the latest Android version if you have to be on the latest software.


User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2915 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Quoting baldwin471 (Reply 5):

I don't understand this mentality. All I see are virtual changes, and while there have been others, naturally, I don't see why that is a major thing of importance. All the people that complain about iOS 'looking the same' seem to be wanting change for the sake of change. iOS is a fantastically designed operating system, not like the mismatch patched together disaster that is Android. There is no reason to change it.

And those who say they want something 'new'... what? What else does iPhone need? NFC? That, currently, is merely a useless fad.



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User currently offlinebaldwin471 From UK - England, joined Mar 2012, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 6):
I don't understand this mentality. All I see are virtual changes, and while there have been others, naturally, I don't see why that is a major thing of importance. All the people that complain about iOS 'looking the same' seem to be wanting change for the sake of change. iOS is a fantastically designed operating system, not like the mismatch patched together disaster that is Android. There is no reason to change it.

And those who say they want something 'new'... what? What else does iPhone need? NFC? That, currently, is merely a useless fad.

You'll say it's a useless fad until Apple implement it won't you? You obviously haven't used an Android phone in the last year if you think it's a mismatched patched together disaster.

Android 4.0 and even more so in 4.1/4.2 is beautifully designed. Not like iOS which is designed for kids and people with bad eyes. Just a grid of icons. How inventive.

People want 'new' things, like NFC, which is actually very useful, a 1080P screen (Like have been in Android phones for 6 months), quad core CPU's, Gestures, New Camera tech, bigger screens (4" is pathetic) and lots of things that Apple will eventually implement and claim they 'invented'.

Can't stand them.

[Edited 2013-03-17 12:56:03]

User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

Grab the S4 if you can. I have had the S3 for a year now, as well as running android for at least 3 years on other phones.
The only reason why I won't get the S4 this year is because my upgrade isn't up till next summer, by which time hopefully the S5 will be out.

S3 is probably one of the best pieces of equipment I have ever used.



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User currently offlineABQ747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 1899 times:

Go with the iPhone 5. I love mine, and I have no complaints.


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User currently offlinevirginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 889 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 1878 times:

Quoting baldwin471 (Reply 7):

You don't sound like you know what you're talking about.

iOS isn't designed for kids or people with vision problems. Tell me what android is. Lots of app icons also. Yeah they have widgets etc, but you could also say these are just for kids. It's such a ridiculous point that you just made, I can't even argue against it!

iOS is the beautifully designed, simple, yet powerful operating system. 1080p screens? You realise on a phone screen, you can barely (I really mean that) tell the difference. It's just marketing rubbish to make them sound better than other phones.

Quad core CPU's? The iPhone 5 with a dual core CPU is faster than the S3 with is quad core CPU as the software and hardware are designed for each other. So what's the benefit of a quad core CPU if its slower than a dual core? Again, pure marketing rubbish (at least until something takes advantage of that power, which at this point in time, nothing does).

4" is pathetic? That's why it's the best selling phone. Heck even the even more 'pathetic' 3.5" screen that's a year and a half old outsold the 10 month old S3. You have your personal preferences, but they are YOURS. The numbers speak against your point.


Back to the OP, the iPhone 5 is a fantastic, well designed, high quality phone married with a beautiful, powerful operating system. You'll have continuous software updates featuring new features and security fixes for years to come and a great ecosystem with the best App Store around.



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User currently offlineTLG From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 1840 times:

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 10):
The numbers speak against your point.

That's not entirely true. Yes, if you compare each model's sales, the iPhone outsells any Android. But that's because there are only 2 iPhone models on the market at any given time. Compare that to the many, probably a hundred or more, different Android phones on the market. Android outsells iOS about 4 to 1, but I'm sure you know that already.


User currently offlinehawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 15 hours ago) and read 1826 times:

My point is not about features. My point is about security flaws in the software. They exist in both, but with iOS you're much more likely to get them fixed in a timely manner; a fix is available as soon as Apple pushes it out. With Android, first Google gets the fix out, then the phone manufacturer and the cell phone carrier have to certify it for your device before it gets pushed out--if ever. Sure, the flagship phones like the Galaxy S3 and S4 may have the latest now, but there are plenty of other Android phones out there selling with 2.x. What are the chances that any security flaws found in those phones wil ever be fixed? The Nexus line is the only Android phone I could in good faith even recommend considering, since it gets updates from Google with little to no manufacturer or carrier interference.

User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1787 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 1779 times:
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Quoting hawaiian717 (Reply 12):

The problem with iOS is once you jailbreak it you have thrown all of your security out of the window for the hopes of customization.



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User currently onlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4869 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 1760 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Thread starter):

MEL, didn't you post this exact same question a while ago?

So what is your budget? I am also looking for a new phone that works in India.

Cheers

Comorin


User currently offlinesteman From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 1320 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1731 times:

I have been an iPhone user for over 3 years now, first with a 3G and now with a 4.
Since my iPhone4 is getting long in the tooth, I´ve been looking around for a replacement.
I really don´t like the iPhone5, it´s just my personal opinion. I want a bigger screen and I am a bit tired of the good old iOS look. So I have skipped that and I have been waiting so far for something new.
Having a Macbook, iPod, iPad2 (and my partner has MacbookPro, iPhone3g, iPod and iPadmini) I´d like to stay in the same OS environment.
But just today I went in an electronics shop to see what´s on the market.
I have been playing a while with the new HTC ONE. It sure is a looker and the graphical interface is very nice. It has a nice aluminium body and the screen was stunning. Also, even without having any Android experience, it seemed to be very intuitive, yet not boring.
I also like the UI of the WindowsPhone, the coloured tiles make the phone seem alive.
I want to see the Galaxy S4 for real and use it a bit before making a decision.
But comparing these new Android or Windows devices with the iPhone5 (also available in the shop next to the others) gave me the impression that iOS is old and in need of a complete revamp, at least as far as the user interface is concerned.
I might do the jump to Android, afterall I keep my iPhone content separate from my iPad and Macbook and I don´t really have a need to synchronize all these devices together (with the exception of the pictures).
If you can´t wait to see what Apple will propose in 2014 (2013 will probably be a revamped iPhone5S with no big changes), I´d suggest to seriously consider the HTC ONE and Samsung Galaxy S4 if you like Android or a Lumia or Sony if you decide to go Windows.

Ciao

Stefano


User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

Quoting baldwin471 (Reply 7):
You'll say it's a useless fad until Apple implement it won't you? You obviously haven't used an Android phone in the last year if you think it's a mismatched patched together disaster.

Android 4.0 and even more so in 4.1/4.2 is beautifully designed. Not like iOS which is designed for kids and people with bad eyes. Just a grid of icons. How inventive.

So trolling has come to Airliners.net. iOS is iOS and Android is Android, they follow distinct philosophies. I hope Apple doesn´t change their philosophy, because not all their users are phone geeks ready to tweak and root. I like my iPhone the way it is. I have my agenda, calender stocks and weather info in my notifications menu. I can also see my emails and messages from there. The apps I use are there ready and waiting for me to attend to what I have to attend to. i don´t have time to customize, and configure, I used Android before moving to iOS and I DO NOT miss the mess. Android 4.0 and up made a big change, but it is still people have a lot of time on their hands to get the way they want, or simple don´t care. The attention to detail in Apple Apps is second to none. But you know what that is my opinion and only a few of the reasons I choose IOS.

We are blessed to have choice, all platforms do no have to look like Android, nor do they all have to look like iOS. There is no need to troll to defend your reason for choosing one of the other. Your reasons are valid just as the other person´s reasons are.

iOS hasn´t had to change the UI because they got it right according to them and the millions who buy their product. iOS though has evolved. Don´t judge a book by its cover.

Concerning the original posters questions. Those are all great options. I think the Xperia is a great option, personal preference. And as mentioned you should also take a look at the HTC One, I think it is wonderfully designed at least. Most importantly, have a look at them all, play with them, and see which one works for you. Don´t listen to trolls from either side of the party, just choose the phone you like most.

[Edited 2013-03-18 12:19:05]


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User currently offlineRedTailDTW From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 750 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1715 times:

Quoting captaink (Reply 16):
So trolling has come to Airliners.net. iOS is iOS and Android is Android, they follow distinct philosophies. I hope Apple doesn´t change their philosophy, because not all their users are phone geeks ready to tweak and root. I like my iPhone the way it is. I have my agenda, calender stocks and weather info in my notifications menu. I can also see my emails and messages from there. The apps I use are there ready and waiting for me to attend to what I have to attend to. i don´t have time to customize, and configure, I used Android before moving to iOS and I DO NOT miss the mess. Android 4.0 and up made a big change, but it is still people have a lot of time on their hands to get the way they want, or simple don´t care. The attention to detail in Apple Apps is second to none. But you know what that is my opinion and only a few of the reasons I choose IOS.

We are blessed to have choice, all platforms do no have to look like Android, nor do they all have to look like iOS. There is no need to troll to defend your reason for choosing one of the other. Your reasons are valid just as the other person´s reasons are.

iOS hasn´t had to change the UI because they got it right according to them and the millions who buy their product. iOS though has evolved. Don´t judge a book by its cover.

Concerning the original posters questions. Those are all great options. I think the Xperia is a great option, personal preference. And as mentioned you should also take a look at the HTC One, I think it is wonderfully designed at least. Most importantly, have a look at them all, play with them, and see which one works for you. Don´t listen to trolls from either side of the party, just choose the phone you like most.

I completely agree with that. People have preferences. You go to the store, try it out, and see what you like best. The iPhone, various Android phones, Windows Phone, BlackBerry etc. all have their strengths. At the end of the day we aren't the ones using your phone, you are. Get what works best for you end of story...

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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

Quoting captaink (Reply 16):
So trolling has come to Airliners.net.

It's always been here, just under different guises depending on what forum the thread is in. Android v. iOS is the mobile version of the Mac v. Windows threads here. I'm a dyed in the wool BlackBerry user and no other smartphone (iPhone, Android, Windows Phone, etc.) has my interest. If you really want to see some smartphone trolling to the BlackBerry page on Facebook........

Quoting HAWK21M (Thread starter):
.I used BB in the past but was paying for Apps I never used.

That's pretty much true with any smartphone, as in some cases, the cell carriers put a bunch of bloatware on the phones. Of the apps on my BlackBerry, I've only bought a handful of apps; the rest are free apps (I can't say the same about my PlayBook.....).


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6100 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

Just bought a cheap Chinese Android 4 phone for my sister and she's happy with it. At least if she loses it or breaks it there will be less drama : Wiko Cink Peax. It's a 4,5" phone. There is a smaller and a bigger model, all in the same 150-200€ range. Also, they all have 2 SIM slots, can be useful. And of course like any decent phone, a µSD slot.




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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8044 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1683 times:

I have an iPhone 4S right now (after starting with a 2) and see no reason to change to another OS. The range of apps is a core reason and the iPhone is still the first platform most app developers start on when coming up with a new app idea.

I like the ability to upgrade to a new model with such ease and I also like the idea of the hardware maker being responsibility for the OS, and the core apps.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 18):
That's pretty much true with any smartphone, as in some cases, the cell carriers put a bunch of bloatware on the phones. Of the apps on my BlackBerry, I've only bought a handful of apps; the rest are free apps (I can't say the same about my PlayBook.....).

That was in fact the biggest disruption with the iPhone: There has never been any carrier branding whatsoever, not even when sold exclusively through a carrier. Carriers are free to offer apps in the App Store, but it's up to the users to voluntarily install those – or throw them off their iPhone again if they don't like them after all.

I have in fact downloaded and am using such a provider app to track usage across my accounts, but only because it's actually useful and on my own accord.

Quoting steman (Reply 15):
If you can´t wait to see what Apple will propose in 2014 (2013 will probably be a revamped iPhone5S with no big changes), I´d suggest to seriously consider the HTC ONE and Samsung Galaxy S4 if you like Android or a Lumia or Sony if you decide to go Windows.

The primary difference is not so much in hardware but in software.

When you use a phone through any period of time, the experience is dominated by the software first and foremost. The hardware contributes important features like battery life, display size, resolution and contrast, but what you're actually using is the software – and that has several distinct aspects:
• the application launcher interface (which is an application itself, actually)
• manufacturer-supplied applications
• third-party applications
OS functionalities which are exposed by applications

It is a common misconception to think that "the OS" was just the application launcher, but that is very far removed from the truth. By far the biggest impact an OS has is by providing hardware drivers, application infrastructure (libraries and frameworks), UI mechanisms and conventions and application interaction management.

"The OS" manifests a lot more in what applications can do (and how and how well they can do it) than
in directly visible functionalities outside of applications.

And that is why it makes a big difference that Apple provides multiple major-version OS upgrades through the lifetime of a physical iPhone, which are immediately available for installation to all users, because they each effectively turn the iPhone into a new model for most of its usage purposes without compromising its security.

Applications ("apps") can take over the phone to realize any desired functionality, and that is where most of the "smart" of "smartphone" comes in – the manufacturer-provided apps are just a basis; The main part of the possibilities of a modern smartphone comes with additional apps, and their capabilities and their quality largely determines the value of the respective platform.

The hardware matters, but it serves primarily as a platform to run the OS and applications. It makes no sense at all to select a modern smartphone just by looking at the hardware.


User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8899 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1630 times:
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Quoting bookishaviator (Reply 1):

I couldn't agree more. The new HTC one seems to be amazing. I had it in my hands already at a HTC promotion.

I currently use the HTC one X and it is amazing. Can only recomment it. Or wait for the new ONE, really good one.

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User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2951 posts, RR: 37
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1616 times:
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Quoting Klaus (Reply 21):
The hardware matters, but it serves primarily as a platform to run the OS and applications. It makes no sense at all to select a modern smartphone just by looking at the hardware.

Hardware ALWAYS matters and it ALWAYS make sense to try out how a device feels.
Some people really hate how certain devices feel in their hands. So sorry, but it make perfect sense to select a phone based on hardware.

Anyways, iOS vs Android, apps wise there really is very little of real use that isn't available for both. iTunes may boast more apps by number, but I have yet to not find something i need that is on iPhone that i can't find for Android 4.x

Hardware wise, iPhone are solid, but so are HTC One series, Samsung Galaxy Series, Nexus, etc etc... Apple really does not have an advantage, but also very few minor disadvantages. Screensize and NFC are big issues for a few people, but try a device 1st.

My 5 cents...



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4156 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

To be honest, I love the iphone. I can see reasons for other platforms, but the Iphone rocks.

I have had a 3G, a 4 and now a 5. The beuatiful part of it all, is each time I upgrade, I can just take the backup image of my old phone, go to the store, get the new phone, come home and reinstall my image perfectly without missing a beat.

I get software updates and patch fixes when they come available, and I get access to the newest apps available.


Now a bit on the Iphone 5. It kicks butt. If you have a 4 or or below, you cannot believe how much faster and better the 5 is. Sure, there is some customization that would be nice, but I passed the days of tinkering with mindless stuff when I was younger.

Once disturbing note i saw about the new G4 is that Samsung is trying to build it's own platform on top of Android's . As much as this seems like a win win for the consumer, it is going to cause issues in the long run with Android updates and availabilty on Samsung phones. Security is going to be more of a growing concern, and I see a lot of potential for disaster in what Samsung is attempting with their new Software.


As for Blackberry. I just see them as too small of a fish to matter. They just are way out of the race. Microsoft at least has their Office and Windows OS to push sales of the phones. BlackBerry is kind of grasping for air at this point.



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User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1169 posts, RR: 3
Reply 25, posted (1 year 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

I am very happy indeed with my Galaxy S3. Knocks the socks off the iPhone as far as its capabilities, and it's wonderful being free of that POS iTunes.

I would say though that if being able to use the thing straight out of the box is important, buy the iPhone. The iPhone is miles ahead in terms of "intuitiveness". The Android you have to learn how to do things; the iPhone is really obvious. I took at least a week of continuous fiddling before I could really use it seamlessly and without thinking.

Once you learn it though, it's far more flexible in terms of customization.



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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12
Reply 26, posted (1 year 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

I too have a 4s. It works great no complaints and I have a serious app invest

Quoting casinterest (Reply 24):
I have had a 3G, a 4 and now a 5. The beuatiful part of it all, is each time I upgrade, I can just take the backup image of my old phone, go to the store, get the new phone, come home and reinstall my image perfectly without missing a beat.

You can do that even easier, by allowing your phone to backup to iCloud automatically. Next time you buy a phone you simply sign in, and give your phone time to download everything. Nevertheless every would be just as you left it.

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 25):

I am very happy indeed with my Galaxy S3. Knocks the socks off the iPhone as far as its capabilities, and it's wonderful being free of that POS iTunes.

And what are some of these amazing capabilities of which you speak? Sure the GS3 has alot of little features here and there, but what do need to do on it that you can´t on an iPhone? I think the GS3 is a great device though, just don´t see why it always has to be a competition of specs with the competitor.

You don´t have to use iTunes, anymore than you have to use Samsung Kies, which certainly beats iTunes in the competition for being the worst piece of software written. I use an iPhone 4s, and I don´t have iTunes installed on my Windows machine. I plan to get a MB Air soon, iTunes would be there by default though.



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User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1169 posts, RR: 3
Reply 27, posted (1 year 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

Quoting captaink (Reply 26):
And what are some of these amazing capabilities of which you speak? Sure the GS3 has alot of little features here and there, but what do need to do on it that you can´t on an iPhone?

Bigger display, removable battery, Swype, SD Card, Widgets, Google Integration, very flexible personalization, more available free apps etc. Just a few off the top of my head that I have used so far. Do I "need" them all? No, but they make for a better experience for me overall.


Quoting captaink (Reply 26):
You don´t have to use iTunes,

I have to use something to copy my files to and from the device. If that's not iTunes it's some equally dubious program. I don't need to use Kies for that on the Galaxy- I just drag and drop into the SD Card using Windows Explorer.



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User currently offlinevirginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 889 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1595 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 27):

A bigger screen is a personal preference. This isn't a capability over the iPhone. With the iPhone not having a removable battery, it has allowed Apple to create a phone that no other smartphone can match I'm terms of design. I've heard an equal amount of bad things to do with Swype as I have good.

Widgets aren't that useful. I can access things with no more than 2 taps to see the same information that you have to swipe to find anyway. They also reduce battery life. Google integration? I have iCloud which is a much more refined service between iOS devices.

Flexible personalisation isn't something that a lot of people want / need, so again, I fail to see how this is an extra capability. More available free apps? I haven't seen any data to back that up but I'm not saying you're wrong. However, one thing that is known, is the apps on iOS are of much higher quality than the like for like apps on android.

So really you haven't answered the question. What capabilities do the S3/S4 have over the iPhone? None by the sound of it.



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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12
Reply 29, posted (1 year 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 27):
Bigger display, removable battery, Swype, SD Card, Widgets, Google Integration, very flexible personalization

Then you mean you like certain features. That is totally understandable. But the use of the word capabilities gives to another meaning.

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 27):
I have to use something to copy my files to and from the device. If that's not iTunes it's some equally dubious program. I don't need to use Kies for that on the Galaxy- I just drag and drop into the SD Card using Windows Explorer.

You can actually copy stuff to the DCIM folder on the iPhone without iTunes. But the iPhone is not as open in terms of processing any type of files.

I live in the cloud, Adobe, iBooks, Kindle, iTunes Media, Netflix, Rdio and my documents an other files I use professionally are synced with Skydrive.



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User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1169 posts, RR: 3
Reply 30, posted (1 year 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1585 times:

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 28):
A bigger screen is a personal preference

Well everything's a personal preference isn't it. But I'll concede that neither iPhone nor Galaxy are better in that regard- just different.

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 28):
With the iPhone not having a removable battery, it has allowed Apple to create a phone that no other smartphone can match in terms of design.

Subjective, plus how is the removal of the battery relevant to the external appearance?

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 28):
I've heard an equal amount of bad things to do with Swype as I have good.
Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 28):
Widgets aren't that useful.

They both work great for me.

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 28):
They also reduce battery life

Doing anything reduces battery life. Having options allows you to choose what you need and what you don't.

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 28):
Google integration? I have iCloud which is a much more refined service between iOS devices.

I wouldn't know, since I have no other iOS devices. I'm only interested in Google integration.

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 28):
Flexible personalisation isn't something that a lot of people want / need

Hah! Hence the reason why in January of last year 1 million people jailbroke their iPhones in a single weekend. People like customization- always have, always will.

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 28):
So really you haven't answered the question. What capabilities do the S3/S4 have over the iPhone? None by the sound of it.

I could name anything and you'd just say "that's not important". Not everybody has the same opinions as you.

Quoting captaink (Reply 29):
You can actually copy stuff to the DCIM folder on the iPhone without iTunes. But the iPhone is not as open in terms of processing any type of files.I live in the cloud, Adobe, iBooks, Kindle, iTunes Media, Netflix, Rdio and my documents an other files I use professionally are synced with Skydrive.

Yeah, I think that's fair- the problem I have is that I use a lot of non-standard file formats for work, so Cloud-only isn't really an option. Again though, it's about flexibility.

Quoting captaink (Reply 29):
Then you mean you like certain features. That is totally understandable. But the use of the word capabilities gives to another meaning.

Features/Capabliities. Not sure of the distinction. The Galaxy allows me to do some things the iPhone does not.

[Edited 2013-03-19 14:56:07]


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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2915 posts, RR: 1
Reply 31, posted (1 year 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1561 times:

Quoting baldwin471 (Reply 7):
You'll say it's a useless fad until Apple implement it won't you?

What a ridiculous statement. You assume that I am some sort of evangelist that will follow everything Apple does to the letter and buy into it. What you base this on is beyond me; up to now the only one that looks like that is you.

So you know, although I do prefer Apple's products there are, and have been, many things that I don't like or think could be better. iOS is not one of them.

Quoting baldwin471 (Reply 7):
You obviously haven't used an Android phone in the last year if you think it's a mismatched patched together disaster.

Android 4.0 and even more so in 4.1/4.2 is beautifully designed. Not like iOS which is designed for kids and people with bad eyes. Just a grid of icons. How inventive.

I've used Android extensively, including 4.0. 4 is not terrible--indeed, never has there been an Android OS that has been truly terrible--but it is no where near iOS. Regardless, most Android phones are still stuck on older versions that are even worse than 4. Moving on, iOS is certainly not designed for kids or people with 'bad eyes'--It is designed for people who like simplicity and logical functions; if that bothers you in an operating system, then I apologize.

Quoting baldwin471 (Reply 7):
People want 'new' things, like NFC, which is actually very useful, a 1080P screen (Like have been in Android phones for 6 months), quad core CPU's, Gestures, New Camera tech, bigger screens (4" is pathetic) and lots of things that Apple will eventually implement and claim they 'invented'.

NFC is virtually useless in it's current implementation. 1080p is utterly useless with a screen the size of a phone; one can barely tell the difference, and iPhone has the brilliant retina display anyway. Quad core CPUs? Its a bloody cell phone, not a computer--If you need Angry Birds to run a millisecond faster then by all means, go Android. Some gestures exist in iOS, and the camera on iPhone 5 and 4S are second to none.

A bigger screen is not something 'new', 'old', or 'innovative'. That is a purely subjective preference, one that I'd think is for 'people with bad eyes'. I don't see why you need anything bigger than 4" for a phone. Anything bigger might as well be a small tablet.

And you never adress the point in my original post: everything people propose for iOS seems to be change for the sake of change. People seem to get bored with things that have been around for more than a couple of years, even if there is nothing wrong with them and decide that Android is 'innovative' because it looks different every iteration and has NFC.

But what do I know--I'm merely an Apple evangelist ; and to crown it all, I must bad eyes.  



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1148 posts, RR: 4
Reply 32, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1480 times:

I was pro Apple for many years and had pretty much every iPhone, apart from the 3GS. Nothing wrong with any of them, however around a month ago somebody at work got the Nexus 4. I was always dead against Android as I figured it was just 3rd party rubbish, but after seeing his Nexus 4 in action I got one for myself.

To be honest both iOS and the latest version of Android both do pretty much the same thing, just in a different way. There are more customisable options on Android however.

The main advantage of the Nexus 4 is the price - £279 sim free from Google vs £500ish for the iPhone 5 sim free from Apple.

However the iPhone had a better camera. The stills are still reasonable on the Nexus, however the sound quality on the video is awful.

I find I use Google Now on the Nexus a lot more than I ever used Siri on iOS. Google Now tends to predict what information you want where as you have to ask Siri.

One thing I do miss about iOS is the passbook app - very handy for those e-boarding cards when travelling!

Sure the Nexus doesn't quite have same cool factor as the SIII of the iPhone 5, but its definitely a very good unit.

Admittedly I've not used an iPhone 5, however as others have mentioned, its undoutably very similar to the 4S running iOS 6.



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User currently offlineTLG From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 32):
Admittedly I've not used an iPhone 5, however as others have mentioned, its undoutably very similar to the 4S running iOS 6.

Probably the most noticeable differences are LTE & a 1/2" larger LCD.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 34, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

Quoting TLG (Reply 33):
Probably the most noticeable differences are LTE & a 1/2" larger LCD.

How so? The iPhone 5 does have LTE. Doesn't the Galaxy 4?

As to the size, consistent design for easy single-handed operation is kind of very useful in a phone. The iPhone 5 is pushing the limit there already.


User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12
Reply 35, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1427 times:

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 32):
Sure the Nexus doesn't quite have same cool factor as the SIII of the iPhone 5, but its definitely a very good unit.

That is a very strange reason to own a phone. And as much as I like Apple products, I currently use an iPhone 4s, and I have no intention of changing platforms soon, the Nexus 4 has a higher cool factor for lack of a better description than the GS4. It is the only Android phone I would like to own. An alternative would be stock android in the HTC One.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6100 posts, RR: 9
Reply 36, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1417 times:

When so many people have an iPhone, it's rather a sheep factor than a cool one !


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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12
Reply 37, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1417 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 36):
When so many people have an iPhone, it's rather a sheep factor than a cool one !

The same can be said for the Galaxy, in fact, it is hipster phone of choice these days. What I don´t get is, how are any of these devices anything more than smartphones? I don´t get it. What does it matter your platform of choice, whatever your reasons may be?



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 38, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

Quoting captaink (Reply 37):
What I don´t get is, how are any of these devices anything more than smartphones? I don´t get it. What does it matter your platform of choice, whatever your reasons may be?

Exactly my view.

My own ego does not depend on the things I own or use, nor does my perspective on other people depend on what they own or use.


User currently offlineTLG From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1347 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 34):
How so? The iPhone 5 does have LTE. Doesn't the Galaxy 4?

Unless I'm missing something obvious here, the line I quoted said "the 4S running iOS 6." I took that to mean the iPhone 4S.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31568 posts, RR: 57
Reply 40, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

Folks.
Considering usage and costs, I Went for the Iphone4S.

The Iphone 5 was great,much lighter,but I felt was too high priced for my usage.

I liked the look of the Xperia Z,The Galaxy S3.....the S4 has not been launched out here yet.



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User currently onlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4869 posts, RR: 16
Reply 41, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1258 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 40):

Congratulations! Now you can play games and watch movies in your late shift  

All the iPhone netters will add you to their RU list, and all the Androids will delete you!

Cheers


User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2915 posts, RR: 1
Reply 42, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1257 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 40):
Went for the Iphone4S.

That's what I have--perfect for all uses.



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User currently offlineplanewasted From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

It's funny how 4" displays was "way to large" for many Apple users two years ago when it was standard on high end Android phones. Now it's perfect for them.  

Will history repeat itself?


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 44, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1238 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 40):
Considering usage and costs, I Went for the Iphone4S.

The Iphone 5 was great,much lighter,but I felt was too high priced for my usage.

Not a bad choice from my point of view, given that I'm still quite satisfied with mine and have not yet felt any serious impulse to a further upgrade.

Quoting TLG (Reply 39):
Unless I'm missing something obvious here, the line I quoted said "the 4S running iOS 6." I took that to mean the iPhone 4S.

Sorry – I misread your post.

Quoting planewasted (Reply 43):
It's funny how 4" displays was "way to large" for many Apple users two years ago
Quoting planewasted (Reply 43):
Will history repeat itself?

It is pretty certain that some people will always keep making up silly stuff like that if it suits their prejudices.

[Edited 2013-03-26 08:44:37]

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