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GOP Roadmap: Immigration Reform, Minority Outreach  
User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 5250 posts, RR: 8
Posted (1 year 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 888 times:

The GOP is pressing forward with its new "roadmap" on what it needs to/should do going forward. Most think it will be controversial and will meet dissent in the rank and file and specifically the more conservative ends.

The key elements are:
- Comprehensive immigration reform (but no mention on how or what that entails)
- $10 million outreach to minority groups, including gay and lesbian
- Take a harder line with corporate America, less corporate "welfare"
- Loosen fundraising laws in D.C. and state capitals
- Shorten 2016 presidential primary calendar
- Reduce the number of presidential primary debates to approximately 10 to 12 (no earlier than Sept. 2015).

I am happy to see the slow understanding that homosexuals matter and should be "accepted" as part of the party (I say "accepted" because I realize there are some within the party that won't and this is not a blanket "we accept that homosexuals are and deserve the same things heterosexuals enjoy"). And that something needs to move regarding the immigration issue and those here illegally. It's taking to long to get to this point but to see some (any) movement is good. I can't find the full listing of all the elements of the "roadmap" but reading the article one piece struck me:

Quote:
The report also calls for the GOP to take a harder line with corporations.

"We have to blow the whistle at corporate malfeasance and attack corporate welfare," it says. "We should speak out when CEOs receive tens of millions of dollars in retirement packages but middle-class workers have not had a meaningful raise in years."
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/...admap-calls-for-immigration-reform

Haven't heard that type of stuff from the GOP in recently.

There is still a long way to go on this, these are just recommendations that still need to be conveyed to and discussed within the party overall to see if it gains traction and/or what needs to be changed and can be accepted. We'll have to wait and see.

Tugg

[Edited 2013-03-18 13:21:51]


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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6102 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 858 times:

Money towards "minority groups" will not help if the actual platform doesn't change (and if some people are not barred from opening their mouth).


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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6545 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 856 times:
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Quoting tugger (Thread starter):
Haven't heard that type of stuff from the GOP in recently.

The only reason you hear about it now is because they got thie *ss handed to them last November.



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7276 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 849 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 2):
The only reason you hear about it now is because they got thie *ss handed to them last November.

My first thought was "this is just politics..." but my second thought is "hey cool, whatever it takes."

I can't speak for gays and lesbians, but I think they'd prefer to have more equal rights while being secretly disliked rather than not having these rights and knowing exactly where people stand.


Glad to see these changes, I think a lot of GOP politicians are legitimate... maybe they were too scared to come out in favor before but are coming out now (pardon the pun)



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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 5250 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 839 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 3):
I can't speak for gays and lesbians, but I think they'd prefer to have more equal rights while being secretly disliked rather than not having these rights and knowing exactly where people stand.

As was shown in what is nominally viewed as Democrat-led California in 2008..... I am sure people are all aware that there are people in groups they are part of that don't like what they are/do/support/whatever. The secret is to just work together where you can.

Tugg



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6545 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 829 times:
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Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 3):
My first thought was "this is just politics..." but my second thought is "hey cool, whatever it takes."

I agree with you. As evidenced by OH Senator Portman this week: Republicans become Democrats when the issues hit close to home

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/16/us...he-supports-gay-marriage.html?_r=0

You want to know how screwed up the GOP is? They are making these changes based on the lesson they learned on the last election. Fantastic.

However, the other lesson that they should have learned is that the people voted for increased taxes. That still needs a little more though on their part.



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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3825 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 825 times:

The Fat Leader disagree...

Limbaugh: GOP 'not out of touch'

Rush Limbaugh criticized Republican National Committee leaders on Monday for suggesting in the RNC’s autopsy report that conservatives were “disrespectful” and “out of touch,” saying it was the opposite.

Limbaugh said that if Republicans abandon their positions — including their long held stance against same-sex marriage — then they will end up hurting themselves.



http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...-not-out-of-touch-89023.html?hp=r4


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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7276 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 823 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 5):
You want to know how screwed up the GOP is? They are making these changes based on the lesson they learned on the last election. Fantastic.

Eh sadly, flipping seems to be a politician thing rather than a GOP thing. Otherwise we might have seen a repeal of the Patriot Act, Gitmo, etc. But again, not complaining on this case, just wish some of these politicians had more conviction to stand up for LGBT rights sooner. Kudos to the few leading the charge, we may say too little too late but they are getting the ball rolling, that deserves some credit



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6545 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 823 times:
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Quoting Confuscius (Reply 6):

Limbaugh: GOP 'not out of touch'

The still believe that Romney is ahead 52% to 45%...

How sad.



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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 5250 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 803 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 6):
“disrespectful” and “out of touch,”

Who is?

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 6):
Limbaugh

Nuff said.

Tugg



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8044 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 802 times:

Quoting tugger (Thread starter):
Haven't heard that type of stuff from the GOP in recently.

And you really won't hear it for very long.

Do you really believe that the wealthy and the large corporations will be willing to give up anything? They have the funds for lobbying and any change you see will be a change in name of some benefit they enjoy.

What to look for?

Continual efforts to change democracy with the GOP efforts to change voting. Longer lines and other changes.

More attacks on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid - while pushing for more tax cuts, especially in Capital Gains.

More barriers to registering to vote.

Delays in immigration reform.

Reduced funding for education.

More bowing down to the demands of the Tea Party

Basically more of the same


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3825 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 800 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 8):
How sad.

The GOP can win if they can repeal the 15th, 19th and 26th amendments.



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6545 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 791 times:
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Quoting Confuscius (Reply 11):
The GOP can win if they can repeal the 15th, 19th and 26th amendments.

I though they are supposed to "defend" the Constitution at all cost - not change it..

I must have been mistaken



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11123 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 747 times:

I hear this kind of talk after every C-PAC meeting. "We need to change because America is changing" has been the theme the last few C-PAC meetings and the last election. That's why there is so much squabbling amongst the right. I doubt anything substantive will change. They still follow the golden rule: Those who have the gold make the rules.


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User currently offlineCalebWilliams From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 687 times:

You guys are forgetting the most important part: Sarah Palin poking fun at Bloomberg's 16+ oz Soda Ban.


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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 658 times:

GOP Roadmap: Immigration Reform, Minority Outreach


...from CPAC, that latter fell Flat on it's face ...right out the gate!

Maybe next year (or in the next decade), someone will explain it to them in a way that they actually get it vs the true, true and failed tactics of the past.

BN747



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