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Pictures Of New Mercedes S-Class Leaked  
User currently offlineracko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

Looking good.

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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2788 times:
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Quoting racko (Thread starter):

I like it. The front looks a little like the new E-class facelift. But looks better than the old one.

The interiour seems to be fantastic - if it really looks like that.

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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6534 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2782 times:

What's new exactly ?


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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2785 times:
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Quoting Aesma (Reply 2):

The front has a new design, the tail looks different compared to the current S-class. It is not extreme change compared to the current one, but still recognizable.

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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7943 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2773 times:

"Leaked "? Hahahahaha!

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I still wouldn't buy it.



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User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2763 times:

Quoting racko (Thread starter):
Looking good.

Indeed, particularly the interior. It is decidedly more an evolution than a revolution but when the current car still looks good, a major redesign is not really needed.


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3300 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2755 times:
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It may suffer from the same flaw the Maybach had - the rear taillamps are too small and make the car look unfinished. I think I prefer the current S-class.

I hate that the roof isn't entirely black. The weird body-matched strip at the rear is completely out of place.

I still wouldn't buy any Mercedes. The C63AMG is the only one that appeals to me from a looks and performance aspect, but it doesn't come in a good old-fashioned stick-shift, which is a deal-breaker for me.

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User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2597 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2751 times:
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Quoting racko (Thread starter):
Looking good.

Yes it does look good. For me, the more squared off headlights at the front is slightly reminiscent of the W116/W126 and W140, which I consider to be the best looking of all S-classes. I'm not entirely sure about the tail lights, though - it looks a bit like a Nissan, dare I say it! I'm sure it'll grow on me, though, just like the current W221 has.

The interior, however, is wonderful.



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2724 times:
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Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 6):
The C63AMG is the only one that appeals to me from a looks and performance aspect, but it doesn't come in a good old-fashioned stick-shift, which is a deal-breaker for me.

The C63AMG is amazing. Is my favorite car. I didn't buy it as it was too expensive. Got the C350 CGI instead. And sold it again. Biggest mistake I've ever made.

Why not automatic shift? I don't need the old fashioned stick shift. Too much work 

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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2708 times:

Ausgezeichnet!

The seats come with Hot Stone massage, as per the linked article. It also refers to it as the Maybach S class and you can see the cues in the rear deck.

I wonder who is the exact demographic this car is aimed at, and which cars it competes with.

This would be a nice car to be driven around in.


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3300 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2700 times:
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Quoting wilco737 (Reply 8):
Why not automatic shift? I don't need the old fashioned stick shift. Too much work

I guess I'm more European at heart than you are! I will never buy a car that isn't stick-shift. Actually, that may not be entirely true. I'm sure I will eventually buy a comfortable, automatic family car when I have kids. I will never, however, buy a performance car that isn't a traditional stick-shift. It's so much more fun. I don't even like dual-clutch transmissions, because the flappy-paddles aren't as fun and they eliminate some of the raw feel of a manual gearbox.

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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2690 times:
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Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 10):
I guess I'm more European at heart than you are!

Nicely said  Could be

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 10):
I will never buy a car that isn't stick-shift. Actually, that may not be entirely true. I'm sure I will eventually buy a comfortable, automatic family car when I have kids.

Never say never.  I understand your point.

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 10):
I will never, however, buy a performance car that isn't a traditional stick-shift. It's so much more fun. I don't even like dual-clutch transmissions, because the flappy-paddles aren't as fun and they eliminate some of the raw feel of a manual gearbox.

Why not at a performance car? A car with 457 HP, do you need a manual gearbox? I personally don't see the bigger fun in it. The automatic gearboxes are so excellent these days.

But I guess this is all personal preference.

I guess not many people want manual stick shift on the new S-class. THey want it comfortable.

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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

Welcome to the middle-of-the road-massproduction fail-safe Chairman´s barge!

Overall not bad. The flanks look nice indeed and finally they get the front right again after all those recent predator-mouth desasters from CLS to the new A-class.
But I dont like the rear. Mercedes is traditionally bad in designing a decent back end to their cars. The new S-class looks like its melting at the end (btw the same is true about the new CLA which I had a chance to see last weekend). And the rear lamps are ugly. I have seen numerous interior pictures of the new S so far, but also here, well done at first sight, but without a doubt no match for the grand limousines from the UK. No one beats the British at luxury car interior design.


User currently offlineDano1977 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Jun 2008, 484 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

Looks nice.

I think my dad has found his next new car.



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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15719 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2653 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 1):
I like it. The front looks a little like the new E-class facelift. But looks better than the old one.

The interiour seems to be fantastic - if it really looks like that.

Same here, but this model seems to be a car to be driven in more than a car to drive to a greater extent than the last one.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 8):
The C63AMG is amazing. Is my favorite car. I didn't buy it as it was too expensive.

The A45 is coming. For you anyway.

Quoting comorin (Reply 9):
I wonder who is the exact demographic this car is aimed at, and which cars it competes with.

Older, well heeled types who are typically older and not likely car enthusiasts. In the mid-2000s I saw the average S-Class buyer had a yearly income of $250,000 and I suspect that has grown a bit by now. They fight for the same buyers as the 7 Series, Lexus LS, Audi A8, and a few others from time to time, although in the US the S-Class typically has the highest base price of the group.

Also Mercedes sells a lot to governments and livery services. Somewhere I saw a figure (it may not be totally true) that something like 90% of the world's governments own at least one.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 11):
But I guess this is all personal preference.

At this point that's the only reason to buy a manual. Automatics and dual clutch transmissions are superior for practical purposes.



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 14):
Older, well heeled types who are typically older and not likely car enthusiasts. In the mid-2000s I saw the average S-Class buyer had a yearly income of $250,000 and I suspect that has grown a bit by now. They fight for the same buyers as the 7 Series, Lexus LS, Audi A8, and a few others from time to time, although in the US the S-Class typically has the highest base price of the group.

The clients in homeland Germany are the same, basically. But I guess here its an even higher percentage of company cars (75%+), while the rest sells mainly to rich retirees, those people who formerly had an S as a company car. Some buy it as their last car. And also in Germany its the car with the highest price tag of the quoted group.

For you as an American let me tell you the oldfashioned Lexus LS is no competitor at all here, selling just 2 cars last month, way less than what exclusive brands like Bentley or Ferrari do achieve! Frankly, I wonder why the LS is offered at all in Germany.

One thing to add, dont be fooled the interior shots show a full-spec S. And I have to mention two more cars to the competition, because the top-of-the range S-class (likely with a heavily modified body) will be positioned higher than the old one as it is planned that it should take the role of the failed Maybach as much as is possible. These two competitors are the Rolls-Royce Ghost and the new Bentley Flying Spur. The top-S-Class wont quite reach the lofty spheres of the Phantom and Mulsanne.

Final word: there are about 11 million people on this planet, and the number is growing fast in this world of societies drifting apart, which do have more than 1 mil $ free money to spend. 99% of those will need a car, or two, or three, or ten, or...!


User currently offlineidealstandard From France, joined Apr 2009, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 8):
Why not automatic shift? I don't need the old fashioned stick shift. Too much work

I recently drove a new shape BMW 330d, and I can't imagine it being nearly as much fun as a manual. I think you'd really struggle to get the best out of the engine with a manual gearchange - the 8 spd Auto was superb.


User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15719 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2624 times:

Quoting na (Reply 15):
The clients in homeland Germany are the same, basically. But I guess here its an even higher percentage of company cars (75%+),

Europeans haven't seen a ton of that market sucked up by crappy Town Cars.

Quoting na (Reply 15):
And I have to mention two more cars to the competition, because the top-of-the range S-class (likely with a heavily modified body) will be positioned higher than the old one as it is planned that it should take the role of the failed Maybach as much as is possible.

It's clear that the model will be heavily S-Class based, but I seem to recall conflicting reports as to whether it would be just a top of the line S-Class or a separate model probably called the 600 and/or Pullman.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7139 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2593 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 10):
I will never, however, buy a performance car that isn't a traditional stick-shift. It's so much more fun. I don't even like dual-clutch transmissions, because the flappy-paddles aren't as fun and they eliminate some of the raw feel of a manual gearbox.

You better uy one soon because Ferrari recently dropped the manual box, Porsche 911 GT3 is now PDK, I suspect all 91's will go that way pretty soon. It even looks like the next M3/M4 will be auto only.

I like this new S-Class but if I was in the market for this type of car my money would be going to Jaguar, the XJ has me written all over it.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/photo_gallery/sedans/1206_2012_jaguar_xj_ultimate_photo_gallery/37633148+w799+h499+cr1+ar0/2012-Jaguar-XJ-Ultimate-rear-view-in-motion.jpg

I'd also take a look at the new Maserati Quattroporte.


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39707 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2576 times:

Nice looking car. Glad to see the fixed glass top that Ford & Mercury started in the 1950s is catching on.


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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15719 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2572 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 18):
You better uy one soon because Ferrari recently dropped the manual box

You can't blame them seeing as they only sold two. Not 2%, just 2.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 18):
Porsche 911 GT3 is now PDK, I suspect all 91's will go that way pretty soon.

The GT3 is PDK only, but they did go to the effort of making a seven speed stick for the 991, so the manual is probably safe for a while.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 18):
I'd also take a look at the new Maserati Quattroporte.

I don't like the new one as much as the last one. I haven't seen one in person so I can't judge completely, but it has weird proportions. The beltline seems a bit off.



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 17):
It's clear that the model will be heavily S-Class based, but I seem to recall conflicting reports as to whether it would be just a top of the line S-Class or a separate model probably called the 600 and/or Pullman.

Thats indeed unknown so far. The only thing we know is that it´ll be considerably longer. I doubt that a car that everybody points out as an S would be attracting anyone driving a Maybach, Flying Spur or Ghost. So I expect it to be a lenghtened S-chassis, but to carry an individual body perhaps using S-class parts here and there. I wonder if it will be as individual and grand as the 1960s 600 Shortwheelbase (the one Elvis had). That was the best luxury car Mercedes ever built and the only serious RR/Bentley competitor they had in a 100 years. If they fail to build a modern times 600, stylistically well apart from the massproduction S-class it´ll be another flop like the pretentious Maybach. I am sure the engineers will get it right, but I have sufficient reason to doubt that the designers will.


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 21):
I don't like the new one as much as the last one. I haven't seen one in person so I can't judge completely, but it has weird proportions. The beltline seems a bit off.

The new Quattroporte has a contrived design without a basic idea. A disappointment for someone like me who normally loves Italian design.


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7139 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2419 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 19):
Because you have less control. No engine braking (at least not as responsive as with a manual). That means far less control over the behaviour of your car, particularly entering and during corners.

When I see someone who bought a Porsche 911 or other proper sports car with an automatic transmission in it, I feel regret that we are not allowed to shoot them.

The new 911 GT3 is PDK, Porsche say it's more involving than the manual, it's also far more responsiove than any manual transmission will ever be.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
Nice looking car. Glad to see the fixed glass top that Ford & Mercury started in the 1950s is catching on.

It's not fixed it's a double sunroof.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 21):
You can't blame them seeing as they only sold two. Not 2%, just 2.

I thought it was 16, or was it 16 manual M5's sold in the US, I can't remember which.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2376 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

Hmm the rear of the car doesn't look so nice, and the glass roof should go all the way back I think.

25 B777LRF : The real reason this car is important, however, can be found in the annals of history. If you want to know what new safety features and assorted bits
26 Pellegrine : Fantastic. Bring out the V-12!!!
27 Post contains images comorin : This car would make a great taxi in Dubai!
28 Post contains images sturmovik : Indeed it does. The tail lamps look like an afterthought. However, I wouldn't go that far
29 neutrino : To have bought or sold or both?
30 Post contains images wilco737 : It was the best car I have ever owned... Biggest mistake was to sell it wilco737
31 Post contains images neutrino : Oic
32 ANITIX87 : I would be very surprised if the M3/M4 were auto-only (even if "auto" = dual-clutch with paddles). To me, a "performance car" doesn't have to be a Po
33 flanker : Rear looks horrible. The current S class is much better.
34 RussianJet : Exactly. It's just another boring Merc. That doesn't mean that I don't consider them great cars, but just can't get excited about yet another plain-l
35 mham001 : At least as far as the color goes, I have to agree. The Germans, outside of Porsche, have the most drab colors.
36 BMI727 : Porsche makes up for them. Some of their colors seem to come straight from the M&M's color pallet. (The Signal Green is awesome) Either way, I'm
37 comorin : MB pioneers in the automotive finish department too. The S Class offers you the custom Designo palette. MB also introduced the use of matt finishes a
38 BMI727 : Actually I don't think they did. I'm pretty sure that Lamborghini and Maserati both beat them to it. Lexus also offered a matte finish on the LFA, bu
39 Post contains images LH7478i : When I lived in Munich, I actually saw quite a few S-Class cabs every day
40 Post contains images B777LRF : Not as long as there's life in Toyota
41 Post contains links KiwiRob : The factory will paint it any colour you like if you contact Designo, they'll come up with all kinds of crap if you have the money, there's no need t
42 Post contains images Flighty : Why buy a Mercedes that looks more Korean than German? Why not just get the real thing... a Korean car. They are probably just as well engineered
43 cptkrell : I agree with you guys about the glass roof looking goofy with the body-color paint swatch at the very rear header area. Paint it gloss black. That sai
44 Post contains images comorin : Fangio would approve.
45 Post contains images NoUFO : Uh-oh ... wut?
46 Post contains links mham001 : Mercedes leaked pics of the plug-in version... A plug-in version of the 2013 Mercedes Benz S-Class that is set to use less fuel than a Toyota Prius ha
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