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User currently offlineevall95 From Australia, joined Aug 2011, 306 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1374 times:

Hi guys, I really would like to start my own website just so I can have all of my photos in the same place. I will also post noteworthy moments for my local airport. I don really won't to use a company which uses their name in the URL just the name of the website.com. Also I'm not really sure how much it costs to do this. Is it a one time payment? Another question is what is essential to building your own website? Just think it'd be quite a cool little project. Any advice or suggestions are welcome.

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User currently offlineckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 730 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1349 times:

If you want your own website you will need to find a hosting company (unless you want the fun of setting up your own server!). You will also need to register a domain name.

Costs - domain name registration. This is variable - .com costs more than .au, and is usually an annual payment.
- hosting: how long is a piece of string? This varies enormously depending on the amount of disk you need, performance, resiliance etc. This will typically be a monthly or annual charge.

As a project this can be fun (if you have a geekish streak), challenging and rewarding. But only if you are interested in getting your hands dirty. If, as I think you're suggesting, you want to go beyond canned offerings, you will need to be at least familiar with HTML, CSS, JavaScript and probably some form of database system to manage more than a handful of images (eg. MySQL). PHP or ASP will also be handy if you want to do anything clever.

I would think very hard before getting involved in this - it will take much longer than you think (even after you allow for the fact it will take longer than you think!), and you need to consider whether the finished product will be any better than, say, putting your images on flickr and writting a blog with links to your images.

A big problem will be visibility. Your website, unless it is very special indeed, will get lost amongst the millions of others - attracting visitors (if that's your aim) will be difficult. Flickr etc. have the advantage of already enjoying a huge audience.

Anyway, if you just want to set up a website for the fun of it, the costs can be low, and there is plenty of help out there on the 'net (the difficult part is asking the right questions). But it will eat up a lot of time and is sure to have you tearing your hair out. I'm currently rewriting mine, and despite years of experience, still feel like banging my head against the wall trying to get some detail or another to work properly!

Cheers,

Colin



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9776 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1317 times:
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Quoting evall95 (Thread starter):

I use Smugmug for most of my shots. The interface (both for managing and browsing) is far better than Flickr, and you have more flexibility as well (not that I really use it). Additionally, you can have your own URL.

I also do post shots on Flickr, but not nearly as many, and I pretty much get annoyed every time I go on it.



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User currently offlinego3team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1206 times:

I host from my house, about a dozen sites. I have a static IP from my ISP and have all my domains pointed at that IP. This costs loads more money than a simple hosting site, but it's way more fun and I have all the control I need over my servers.


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User currently onlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1206 times:

What? Is myspace dead?


David



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User currently offlinego3team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 4):
What? Is myspace dead?

Damn, you actually made me check. I haven't touched mine in years, still there.



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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2629 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1045 times:

Quoting go3team (Reply 3):
I have a static IP from my ISP and have all my domains pointed at that IP. This costs loads more money than a simple hosting site

Dynamic DNS wouldn't work better for you?



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1039 times:

I thought of doing the same when I moved to YVR just to share the interesting and different traffic we get and even started writing a bunch of stuff but apart from knowing Im not computer literate and it was a greater project than I would be able for on my own, I also soon realized that folk already did this - on flickr.

Quoting ckw (Reply 1):
A big problem will be visibility. Your website, unless it is very special indeed, will get lost amongst the millions of others - attracting visitors (if that's your aim) will be difficult. Flickr etc. have the advantage of already enjoying a huge audience.

I agree. I know of two instances locally, one guy has quite a comprehensive website with various forums and photo section, but there are hardly any photos uploaded any more and the news forums are pretty dead. It used to be my go to place for news, but everyone seems to use flickr instead. Another is a great photographer and he set up his website after being annoyed at rejects by a.net, but unless you actually go to it, I have never once found his photos from a google search or in the course of pursuing the hobby - so I havent looked at his site for months.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 2):
I also do post shots on Flickr, but not nearly as many, and I pretty much get annoyed every time I go on it.

Interested to know why? I didnt like the change to the uploader a while back at first, but like it now.



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9776 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1034 times:
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Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 7):
Interested to know why? I didnt like the change to the uploader a while back at first, but like it now.

I don't like the user interface for browsing or managing. The uploader is OK, actually more like Smugmug now. I don't like some little things in the functionality, like if I click on a photo so it pops up and expands, then click off of it, i can't hit "back" to go back to the photostream - it'll go back to the popped up, expanded photo. I don't like having to click "view all sizes" to see my viewing size options. I really don't like the white background. I don't like how the photos are organized when you view a photostream. Everything feels cluttered.

It's one of those websites where it feels like everything was designed to annoy me.



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4769 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1016 times:
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Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 8):
I don't like the user interface for browsing or managing. The uploader is OK, actually more like Smugmug now. I don't like some little things in the functionality, like if I click on a photo so it pops up and expands, then click off of it, i can't hit "back" to go back to the photostream - it'll go back to the popped up, expanded photo. I don't like having to click "view all sizes" to see my viewing size options. I really don't like the white background. I don't like how the photos are organized when you view a photostream. Everything feels cluttered.

It's one of those websites where it feels like everything was designed to annoy me.

Flickr is not intended to be a photo gallery. Flickr is a social media site. If you look for it to serve as a gallery you will hate it. It's a networking site, and a place to trade comments...I like yours, you like mine kind of thing. The more active you are on others' photostreams, the more attention you'll receive. It's all about networking.

I have made many friends through Flickr. I also landed my largest gig with a very big client thanks to Flickr.

[Edited 2013-03-30 00:01:29]


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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9776 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1006 times:
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Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 9):
Flickr is not intended to be a photo gallery. Flickr is a social media site.

Fair point, and that's probably why I don't particularly like it. Haven't been much into social media in a few years now - I barely even go on Facebook anymore (and I liked Facebook back when it was much simpler, in ~2005 or so).

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 9):

I have made many friends through Flickr. I also landed my largest gig with a very big client thanks to Flickr.

I'm certainly not saying it's useless or pointless. I just don't happen to like it.



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4769 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 987 times:
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Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 10):
Fair point, and that's probably why I don't particularly like it. Haven't been much into social media in a few years now - I barely even go on Facebook anymore (and I liked Facebook back when it was much simpler, in ~2005 or so).

By embracing the various social media outlets out there, one can successfully drive traffic to their personal website or gallery/portfolio. I hate FB and closed my account a couple years ago but I do consider setting up an account for my photography to help network and drive traffic to my site that I'm currently building. Google+ is another big one for photographers. I've embraced Flickr and Twitter, however, which have both increased my exposure effectively.



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User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 978 times:

To be honest you might be better using a web based service (like a template sort of thing) then just paying for a domain name.

Setting up a website is a pain in the arse if you've never done it before and that's without even coding the damn thing.

If you have no experience with HTML/mySQL/CSS then I'd honestly suggest doing the template route.


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9776 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 962 times:
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Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 11):
By embracing the various social media outlets out there, one can successfully drive traffic to their personal website or gallery/portfolio.

I'm well aware. And if I wanted to badly enough, I'd probably do it.



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4769 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 938 times:
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Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 13):
Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 11):
By embracing the various social media outlets out there, one can successfully drive traffic to their personal website or gallery/portfolio.

I'm well aware. And if I wanted to badly enough, I'd probably do it.

I wasn't speaking directly to you, I was speaking in general terms. Had a feeling I should have clarified that.



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