stasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3273 posts, RR: 6 Posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2842 times:
2014 Cadillac CTS front-quarter
The next-generation 2014 CTS will be competing directly with cars like the BMW 5-Series and the Mercedes-Benz E-Class than before. Previously, the CTS was priced more along the lines of the smaller BMW 3-Series and Audi A4, but it was sized more like those maker's mid-sized models. And the CTS will also priced more like its new larger competitors - estimated sticler price should range from $40000 to $60000 USD, depending on optional equipment.
With the arrival of the smaller Cadillac ATS (sized and priced to compete with the BMW 3-series and Benz C-class), the CTS is being pushed upmarket. ATS seems to be performing fairly well for Cadillac in the market, and has received universally good reviews from the automotive press.
Cadillac thinks the new CTS will have what it takes to be a serious contender. Underneath, the new car will move to a stretched wheelbase version of the Alpha rear-drive platform that underpins the current ATS, and soon the next-generation Chevy Camaro.
Under its hood, the CTS will come standard with a 272 horsepower 2.0L turbocharged four-cylinder capable of hitting 30mpg on the highway. Cadillac's 3.6-liter V6 will stand as the range's mid-level offering, developing 321 horsepower, All wheel drive will be an option with this engine. The big news for 2014 is the introduction of a 3.6L twin-turbocharged V6 in the Sport-series model.
The twin-turbo mill is based on Cadillac's naturally aspirated 3.6 liter V6, but boasts a number of mechanical improvements, including updated cylinder heads, stronger connecting rods and a 10.2:1 compression ratio. As a result of those changes, the twin-turbo V6 produces a healthy 420 horsepower and 430 lb-ft of torque, good for a 0-60 run in about 4.5 seconds.
The 3.6L twin-turbo, which is expected to be available in the rear-drive version (no AWD twin-turbo), is expected to be rated at 17mpg in the city and 25mpg on the highway.
All CTS models will come with Cadillac's new eight-speed automatic transmission as standard equipment, and will have Cadillac CUE touchscreen infotainment system as well - and a upgraded interior that mimicks the quality and design of the interior materials of the current XTS sedan.
A turbo-dtiesel engine sourced from GM/Opel is also rumored, especially for international variants of the CTS. Currently, only Mercedes-Benz offers a diesel in the premium midsize segment here in the USA. The coupe and wagon versions of the new-generation CTS have not yet been announced, and may not be produced at all given the low sales numbers of the current CTS coupe and wagon. However, Cadillac is expected to follow up with a third-generation, V8-powered CTS-V sedan sometime next year.
KiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6031 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2727 times:
Cadillac must think it's good if they are going to try competing at the same price level as the Germans, now they will have no excuses for poor quality, before Cadillac could pass it off as value for money, 5 series size for 3 series money, so you could expect a few cut corners and slightly budget interior.
Dreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8369 posts, RR: 24 Reply 10, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2710 times:
Quoting Revelation (Reply 7): Unfortunately I'm just not a fan of the interior "design language
I like the interior. Looks modern yet luxurious. I hope the feel of the materials matches the look - this has always been a GM problem - something looks good, then you touch it and it feels like cheap plastic.
BTW, anyone notice the size of the Cadillac emblems? Typical of the last generation, but really indicative of "design for people with poor eyesight"
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 11423 posts, RR: 24 Reply 12, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2621 times:
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 10): I like the interior. Looks modern yet luxurious. I hope the feel of the materials matches the look - this has always been a GM problem - something looks good, then you touch it and it feels like cheap plastic.
It's just not my thing. There's a lot of design cues that tell me I'm in a Caddy, but I guess I really don't want to be in a Caddy. I want something more sports/luxury. I like Audi interiors. Too bad they don't come inside a BMW!
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 10): BTW, anyone notice the size of the Cadillac emblems? Typical of the last generation, but really indicative of "design for people with poor eyesight"
Well, that's who have been buying them: old folks with fading eyesight...
But it is a fad to have huge emblems (see Merc et all).
Somehow the one on this Caddy doesn't bother me as much as older ones esp on the Esplinade.
stasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3273 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2534 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 5): I like the new look. I see traces of the CIEL concept.
I agree, 'Fly. The headlight tubes on the front are directly related to the Ciel concept. Make me very hopeful that the new Cadillac "Omega" platform flagship will look ALOT like the Ciel, since this new CTS mimicks the Ciel's styling in many ways.
2015 Cadillac Ciel
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The bright red is awful. The dark grey on the top picture is much better, as would be a darker burgundy. Caddy did themselves no favors with the car at the show.
Quoting Flighty (Reply 17): ut the styling on all of them is about 7/10. The slab sides are so tall. A little weird, but still best Cadillac lineup in 20 years, at least.
This one's an 8 or a 9. Definitely the best since the XLR years ago. The hard edged Art and Science styling really only works on cars that are long and low. On shorter, scrunched up designs it looks bad, like the XTS and ELR.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
KiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6031 posts, RR: 3 Reply 21, posted (8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2450 times:
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 20): With the current version, you can buy one and have $20-30k left over to tune it for what an M5 or E63 would cost you.
I can't see many cross shopping a M5, RS6, E63 or XF-R with a CTS-V, it's similar in NZ or Aus folks won't be cross shopping HSV Commodores or FPV Falcons with the Euro's, it's a different market. That's why I'm highly surprised that Cadillac are going to try selling this with pricing to match the Euros, they have better have sorted out the fit, finish and interior quality if they want to be considered as equals, it's a brave move.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 11423 posts, RR: 24 Reply 22, posted (8 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2426 times:
So WTF is up with all the TLAs?
Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 21): That's why I'm highly surprised that Cadillac are going to try selling this with pricing to match the Euros, they have better have sorted out the fit, finish and interior quality if they want to be considered as equals, it's a brave move.
in general, yes, but as seen in these forums and elsewhere there is a certain number of fans, almost all from the US, who will want it despite any such flaws.
The Escalade was an expensive mess of plastic everywhere but it still sold.
In theory GM should have been able to use the bailout, the layoffs and the rewritten union contracts to address those fundamental issues.
I sure as heck hope they did.
Yes, they did build a certain mostly-electric car that some wish had not been built, but that's off-topic and has been beaten to death so please discuss that elsewhere.
Flighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 7923 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (8 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2395 times:
Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 21): I can't see many cross shopping a M5, RS6, E63 or XF-R with a CTS-V, it's similar in NZ or Aus folks won't be cross shopping HSV Commodores or FPV Falcons with the Euro's, it's a different market.
Cadillac is absolutely competing with the M5.
You'll see every car magazine acknowledge that Cadillac has matched the 3 and 5 series BMWs in quality and performance, along with Lexus and perhaps Mercedes. It is just a question of which styling and brands appeal to whom. GM's quality control is just as good as anyone. Meanwhile, the Germans have been cost cutting. BMW reviews now mention numb steering and cheapened interior finishes.
25 BMI727: You'd be stupid not to. The CTS-V is right there with the XFR, M5, et. al. The HSV and Falcons would be much more in line with a Charger SRT8 or the
26 daedaeg: I own a 2011 CTS Coupe and love it. Hopefully they'll make a coupe for the new 2014 as well. I'd like to upgrade one day. I actually find the interior
27 Mir: This has driven me nuts about US cars in general, though GM is the biggest offender. But things are getting better, slowly but surely. But as a VW fa
28 Superfly: No need to make a fuss about a press release. Making claims about going after the competition has been going on for ages. Nothing new here. Sure GM wo
29 mham001: I don't get the color comments. Thankfully it is not in German gray/blue. Too boring. So was the first leaked picture - nothing but drab. Cadillac has