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North Korea's Military Can't Draw Trajectories  
User currently offlineaircatalonia From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 568 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5408 times:



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User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5408 times:

Their glorious leader uses a Mac, 'nuff said.



[Edited 2013-03-29 12:55:37]


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User currently offlinestarbuk7 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 599 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5378 times:

Quoting flanker (Reply 1):
Their glorious leader uses a Mac


What make you think he knows how to use it, it could just be there for decoration!!


User currently offlinemham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3695 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5360 times:

He looks good in that suit color, I like how it highlights his hairline.

User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 492 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5308 times:

Is there any way I could acquire one of those hats? They are awesome..


"...stay hungry, stay foolish" -Steve Jobs
User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21801 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5264 times:

Quoting aircatalonia (Thread starter):

"This cake looks papery."

Quoting flanker (Reply 1):
Their glorious leader uses a cheap Chinese knockoff of a Mac

FTFY.


-Mir



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User currently offlinejohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5228 times:

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 4):
Is there any way I could acquire one of those hats? They are awesome..

The French style or the Russian style?


User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 492 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5221 times:

Quoting johns624 (Reply 6):

Either, they just look awesome



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7965 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5170 times:

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 4):
Is there any way I could acquire one of those hats?

The French style hat is called kepi; maybe that helps finding one (but I doubt it).

Quoting aircatalonia (Thread starter):
North Korea's Military Can't Draw Trajectories

And what difference does drawing proper trajectories make?



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User currently offlineaircatalonia From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 568 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5130 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 8):
And what difference does drawing proper trajectories make?

Well, it makes no difference. It's just that if they were to launch a (hypothetical) missile I don't think it would follow parallel 40 all the way to America. It would fly north, then south, as airplanes do. But, yeah, I don't think they have the weapon 


User currently offlinejet-lagged From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 877 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5089 times:

I like the three telephones. He couldn't get a multiple line model? It's disappointing that one doesn't have a big red light on it.

That guy is 29 or 30 years old. What a strange, unique life he is going to have to deal with.


User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5053 times:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...ea-north-war-idUSBRE92T00020130330

More empty threats I bet, I doubt they would have truly any reason to start a war with South.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11690 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5048 times:

I think I've worked out why the North Korean generals think the US is in range of their missiles. They must have been searching A.net and came across this thread:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/non_aviation/read.main/1111948


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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13170 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5036 times:

Once again the wingnuts that run NK are trying to extort China, SK, the USA and the rest of the world to make one sided deals without any human rights changes in their country, to end their exporting of missiles and bomb tech. NK is also deeply involved in the illegal drug trade, using their 'diplomats' to obtain Euros and USD's. I hope their next bomb test ends up landing deep in their capital city and take out their sick leaders.

User currently offlineJetsgo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3086 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5002 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 12):

The inability to take a joke in that thread, which is all to common on A.net, really is a head shaker. Pathetic really.



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User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6159 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4957 times:
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Quoting johns624 (Reply 6):
The French style or the Russian style?

I like them both... I dig the uniforms too. I wonder what all those ribbons mean. It isn't like the DPRK has been in war after war where a man could earn all those medals.


When the DPRK finally goes away just think of all the neat junk that will be on the surplus market. I remember surplus stores being full of DDR and USSR stuff in the early/mid 1990s. I got me one of the cool Soviet Navy clocks, maybe I could score a North Korean clock for a companion piece one day.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15812 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days ago) and read 4938 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 15):
I wonder what all those ribbons mean.

There's the "I'm over 5 feet tall" medal.



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17126 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4850 times:

What kind of haircut is that? I can't get over that, it looks freaking ridiculous.


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15812 posts, RR: 27
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4842 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 17):
What kind of haircut is that?

The kind you get when Asian people watch The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17126 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4833 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 18):

The kind you get when Asian people watch The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

Haha, now that you say it.

Didn't his dad have the very same haircut?



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7859 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4767 times:

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 4):
Is there any way I could acquire one of those hats? They are awesome..

Defect. Then get put in a gulag for spying. Then get your arse bombed by us.

http://i47.tinypic.com/14m3rxi.jpg



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6845 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4727 times:

The kepis are a little "fat" (they should be cylindrical) but OK, however the other hats look like inverted mushrooms, I can't take someone wearing that seriously (I find that the oversized ones in Russia are already over the top).


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User currently offlinewardialer From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4617 times:

All those maps are FAKE big time....
Missile tracks are planned as Great Circle tracks and not Rhumbline (straight) like the one on the maps from the pics.
Any USAF will tell you this concept. Great Cirlce tracks can use Polar routes. They mean the same.
The and phones are similar to these used by the US Presidents:
http://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/motorola/sectel/


Secondly, does anyone believe NK has even missiles? NK is one of the poorest countries 2nd to Haiti and you tell me that they can afford to own missiles? Come on....


User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21801 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4521 times:

Quoting wardialer (Reply 22):
Secondly, does anyone believe NK has even missiles? NK is one of the poorest countries 2nd to Haiti and you tell me that they can afford to own missiles? Come on....

We know they have missiles. They've test-launched them.

NK is poor because they divert all their money into the military. If they need to induce more poverty to afford a small missile stockpile, they'd have no problem doing it.

Of course they don't really need that many missiles, since their main enemy is South Korea, and artillery will work just fine for that.

-Mir



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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4496 times:
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Quoting Mir (Reply 23):
NK is poor because they divert all their money into the military. If they need to induce more poverty to afford a small missile stockpile, they'd have no problem doing it.

Recent reports seem to indicate that sanctions are starting to bite even the military. I read in a foreign policy newsletter (sorry, can't recall which, probably Foreign Affairs) that the current increase in tension may have as much to do with the need to find a reason why some army units are not getting sufficient food ration on time, that is because they are too busy prepping and moving into position ahead of a military confrontation.

The army elite is still well fed, of course, but it is a small corps.



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25 Post contains links wardialer : Maybe we should train Kim on how to use GCCS mapping tool such as this one. http://www.disa.mil/Services/Command...-Control/GCCS-J/Technical-Training
26 NoUFO : That would be bad idea. Much worse than just ignoring him.
27 MD11Engineer : The Chinese apparently got fed up after the last nuke test and really closed the border, even interdicting smuggling. Jan
28 WestJet747 : Yes, I realize we're joking here, but unless someone here can read Korean, how do we know it's a trajectory map? I'm digging the Russian style. Remin
29 GDB : Ouch! But with a lot of truth in that joke too. The huge famines of the 1990's and continuing food shortages have stunted a whole generation of North
30 BMI727 : Supposedly they always assign their tallest and healthiest looking soldiers to the border.
31 NoUFO : Yes, and so does the south, but by average they are indeed taller. A 20-year-old from North Korea is about 1.60 m (5.2 ft), a South Korean of the sam
32 GDB : True, they also have faked up model villages just over the border as well. It's likely that again, this whole blood curdling belligerence from the DP
33 wardialer : If hes making these threats of targeting the US, why not charge him with US Fedral law which would be a Felony. I dont understand why we cannot send F
34 kaitak : The trouble is, now, that nerves are stretched to breaking point; all it would take would be one North (or indeed South) Korean troops to be too trigg
35 BMI727 : Last time we wanted to do that we had to invade the whole country. Then it's the biggest, and possibly last, mistake the North Koreans will make.
36 Post contains links and images WestJet747 : That would be a terrible tragedy, although I have a feeling that there would be far more backlash in this event than with the KE 007 accident. There
37 BMI727 : Except that it's been done before. Manuel Noriega was tried in Florida and sentenced to 17 years in prison which he served before being passed off to
38 WestJet747 : Noriega was a drug lord that trafficked drugs to the US. He actually committed crimes against the US and it could be proven. This is besides the fact
39 Post contains links PHX787 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M (nsfw....kinda) :D They did sign on to the sanctions so I'm assuming they're enforcing them as much as they
40 Pellegrine : What is this thread actually about except for a few conservative American (or western) Airliners.net members thumping their chests and posturing on a
41 TheCol : You're more than welcome to share your opinion. Please enlighten us on a different course of action.
42 kaitak : Any posturing and chest thumping is being done by the N Koreans. I don't think there is anything wrong with speculating on likely responses or a poss
43 BMI727 : It's rather amusing that North Korea doesn't realize or acknowledge the fact that they could be summarily curb stomped at pretty much anytime.
44 pvjin : Nothing serious about this, just North Korea doing its usual threats to strengthen the order inside the country. It's nothing to worry about. North K
45 luckyone : The have the fourth largest standing army on the planet defending a mostly mountainous area approximately the size of Pennsylvania. For comparison's
46 DeltaMD90 : I don't think we'd go in all willy nilly... we'd do what we always do: strike communications (I'm sure there is a cruise missile pointed at every com
47 falstaff : If I recall Iraq had the 4th largest Army in the world in 1988 and had close to a million men and they folded fairly quick in 1991. Even of the they
48 Post contains images KaiGywer : Saw a funny comic on Facebook the other day, but can't find it now. Basically it's a hissy fit Kim Jong Un throwing a rocket at a giant US Soldier and
49 Post contains images BMI727 : I'm not sure that's the case. First, the control of the media and message there is complete. There's no reason why they need to actually say or do an
50 Post contains images luckyone : You must be joking. We already did that once (technically twice) in Japan on the heels of a REAL war and a real attack and we are still debating whet
51 DeltaMD90 : I do believe he studied abroad, in Switzerland IIRC... there was hope that he'd be less crazy because of this Well it's more detailed than that, they
52 Post contains links BMI727 : Only stupid people are. It was actually an unquestionably good idea, as illustrated by the fact that the US has still not used up all of the Purple H
53 pvjin : Yeah let's kill all the innocent civilians who have been brainwashed by the evil government to behave like that, totally good ethical idea. But oh I
54 BMI727 : You'd hope so, but then he had a summit with Dennis Rodman so... Considering the levels of brainwashing and leader worship that go on there, I'm not
55 pvjin : It's not their fault that they are brainwashed, it's not their own decision to become like that. I would answer yes, everyone in US army is there fro
56 BMI727 : In a situation that would potentially cost American lives, I don't find that particularly relevant. Many Iraqis during the Gulf War were conscripts a
57 DeltaMD90 : I'm kinda skeptical on the level of brainwashing... I mean I think they more or less believe what is put out, but I don't think it would take that lon
58 pvjin : Hmm yeah, at least obviously not all regular people are successfully brainwashed as significant amounts of them take huge risk by crossing the border
59 petertenthije : What makes you think the common man even has internet acces? First rule of the dictator is to control information. The internet can never be complete
60 DeltaMD90 : I know I know, I meant it as a grassroots kind of movement by the people that actually do have internet, because as you say:
61 BMI727 : I wouldn't be particularly willing to risk the lives of Americans or those of our allies waiting for North Koreans to figure things out. If they do t
62 TheCol : And to extort food and money from us. Last time I checked, the West has left North Korea alone since the Armistice was signed. The North Korean leade
63 BMI727 : Actually they make their own money. It's one thing they are actually quite good at.
64 Post contains images Pellegrine : Ignore the North Koreans then, and stop getting so bent out of shape about it. Honestly, if people wanted to engage in diplomacy with them, we'd all
65 Post contains images PHX787 : My "city" in my username may be western but I'm living in Tokyo now. People are quite concerned about N.Korea here but are quite aware of Japan's abi
66 TheCol : A country cannot survive financially on 1 trading partner, frozen assets, and multiple sanctions. The more we ignore them, the more belligerent they
67 Pellegrine : No worries brother, when I've been in Japan off and on over the past 7 years North Korea wasn't even a topic really. I'm sure Japan and the RoK would
68 GDB : For decades, TV's and Radios there are pre tuned and sealed to only receive government stations. So no leakage of signals from the South, unlike East
69 NoUFO : Somebody who is "brainwashed" but discontented at the same time is unhappy with his government in the first place. How come thousands try to flee Nor
70 falstaff : Rural peoples may be the least "brainwashed" people in the DPRK. Rural people are usually less dependant on services than urban dwellers. This fact i
71 AeroWesty : A report on the Today Show this morning showed clips from N. Korean TV. The report claimed that there's a fairly constant barrage of propoganda regard
72 NoUFO : Rural people are the last to see foreigners, too. People from Pyongyang see well-fed tourists now and then. From what I know, farmers have to do mand
73 BMI727 : No you misunderstand. North Korea literally makes their own dollars and according to the Secret Service they are the best counterfeits out there. Luc
74 AeroWesty : Drop leaflets, drop crates of care packages with the message, broadcast on radio, the word gets out. This ain't rocket science. You tell starving mil
75 BMI727 : Of that only the leaflets could be really successful. Radios are probably too few and not enough of them can be tuned to frequencies other than state
76 AeroWesty : It's not that hard to drown out state radio with your own message. Even if they do, the populace knows they're there. Drop 'em out in the fields, som
77 falstaff : Unfortunetly in the USA too many university students want more government control. I saw that back in the 1990s when I was in school. I could see the
78 petertenthije : Indeed, and having everyone on the same frequency/ies makes it only easier to reach everyone at the same time. If I am not mistaken the USAF already
79 AeroWesty : While some people will be hungry enough to try it, then ask why their government is lying to them. That creates doubt and encourages anarchy. It's no
80 Post contains links txjim : http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=182 Commando Solo has been effectively used in many situations but has no self-defense capab
81 MD11Engineer : The problem is that NK´s government see themselves as the rightful government of the whole of Korea and this will definitely included in their deman
82 TheCol : I think you're forgetting who's in the wrong here. If your looking for appeasement from the international community, it clearly isn't going to happen
83 AeroWesty : We're talking about if it comes to war, not as a prelude to war. There haven't been any credible reports of N. Korean fake dollars being produced sin
84 Post contains links and images flanker :
85 Post contains images DeltaMD90 : I wasn't talking about letting our forces get killed while waiting for them to change, you fight if you have to. I just think many would defect I kno
86 BMI727 : Presumably doing something like that will anger the North Korean officials, who are not the least bit shy about abusing their people. The point is th
87 BO__einG : DPRK is one country where I wish USA had Skynet and would develop the T800 to unleash it onto the DPRK horde. Risk free, guaranteed success! Their cha
88 af773atmsp : Or maybe North Korea will somehow get logic and think to themselves "Lets just be friends with the U.S. and I'm sure they will be friends with us."
89 F9animal : I have a bad feeling this guy thinks the world is scared of N Korea. I also have a bad feeling he will do something stupid. Just hope he gets taught a
90 AF1624 : He won't do anything. It's just a gigantic load of propaganda. If anything, I wish he did something. It's about time the situation in the Korean peni
91 Post contains links AeroWesty : Fidel Castro advises friend North Korea against war
92 victrola : What would be the effect of telling the Chinese that if they can't get North Korea to shut down its nuke program, that the United States certainly can
93 BlueLight : Seriously? Come on. Keep in mind the Chinese are in a very tough spot themselves. If the regime falls or chaos ensues the would as many as 10 MILLION
94 victrola : [ I'm throwing this as out as a scenario to explore. First of all, I am not sure China is doing all it can to rein in its ally. They could renounce th
95 nomadd22 : The missiles would fly straight. It's the 40th parallel that would dip south of a direct course.
96 kaitak : If the north were to launch nuclear missiles from anywhere in Korea, presumably there would be tell-tale signs of this which could be observed by sate
97 Post contains images TheCol : North Korea would probably have only a few minutes warning. It's also likely there is more than one SSBN kicking around the Sea of Japan. No, everyon
98 Post contains links MD11Engineer : In meantime China is consolidating her hold over the contested islands in the South China Sea. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-22056661 Jan
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