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Any Tobacco Snuff Fans Here?  
User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3134 times:

Having given up smoking (two months just about now, all going great there), I do nonetheless continue to indulge my occasional snuff habit.

My favourite would be Wilsons of Sharrow Extra Menthol Snuff. I also like McChrystal's Clove.

I like the paraphernalia, snuff boxes, spoons and such. Is there anyone else here who takes the occasional pinch of snuff? If so, what are your preferred brands and flavours?

I know it's still bad for you, but I think the odd pinch of snuff still has to be way better for you than smoking regularly. It also still has the air of a nice, gentlemanly habit, which I also appreciate.


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User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3024 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3079 times:

No, and I've never smoked.
But one of my colleagues, a German, who smokes, tells me that the Swedish "snus" is the best snuff around. I think snuff is "healthier" than smoking, so if you'll continue with snuff, it might be worth seeking some of this out.

signol



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3078 times:

Quoting signol (Reply 1):
But one of my colleagues, a German, who smokes, tells me that the Swedish "snus" is the best snuff around. I think snuff is "healthier" than smoking, so if you'll continue with snuff, it might be worth seeking some of this out.

Snus is a slightly different beast - moist, pliable, and generally packed under your upper lip or inside your cheek. Not great for teeth, and probably a higher risk of mouth cancer vs. nose cancer give the extended period of contact. Still nice though, have tried it a few times in Norway.



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User currently offlineMrCazzy From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2878 times:

I used to use chewing tobacco, long cut, used skaol spearmint, Copenhagen straight, and redman. Chewed up my gums and quit a few months ago.

User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6933 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2770 times:

I smoke cigarettes. I went through a very brief "dip" phase and stopped as it really is disgusting.


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User currently offlineKoosi From Czech Republic, joined May 2005, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

Quoting MrCazzy (Reply 3):
chewing tobacco
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 4):
dip

I don't think he's talking about dip (moist snuff) or chewing tobacco. Dry snuff is actually inhaled.

I used to do snuff daily and still do it occasionally. My favorite is Poeschl's Red Bull, it has a nice strong kick to it. I'd like to get my hands on some of the mysterious White Elephant snuff though. It's made in India and is also said to be available in parts of Russia. There are individuals willing to ship it to Europe but prices are pretty steep.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

Quoting Koosi (Reply 5):

I don't think he's talking about dip (moist snuff) or chewing tobacco. Dry snuff is actually inhaled.

Exactly, though it needn't be dry necessarily - snuff comes in a variety of moistures and grinds. But the thing is, people abuse the word 'snuff'. It's not chewing tobacco, it's not dip, it's not snus - it's snuff - nasal snuff, taken by sniffing.



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User currently offlineKoosi From Czech Republic, joined May 2005, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2594 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 6):
Exactly, though it needn't be dry necessarily - snuff comes in a variety of moistures and grinds.

Yeah, I know, I just used that to illustrate the difference between dip and nasal snuff  
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 6):
people abuse the word 'snuff'. It's not chewing tobacco, it's not dip, it's not snus - it's snuff - nasal snuff, taken by sniffing.

  


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2591 times:

Quoting Koosi (Reply 7):
Yeah, I know, I just used that to illustrate the difference between dip and nasal snuff

  

Have you tried many different varieties? I'm more of a menthol fan than anything else, though I do like Poeschl Ozona Orange - it's intensely orangey, with a light, background menthol. It's delicious - and it lingers a long time. If anything, perhaps a little too long - you need to plan if you're going to eat something totally contrasting, for example!



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10340 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2588 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 6):
Exactly, though it needn't be dry necessarily - snuff comes in a variety of moistures and grinds. But the thing is, people abuse the word 'snuff'. It's not chewing tobacco, it's not dip, it's not snus - it's snuff - nasal snuff, taken by sniffing.

Well, I learned something today. Had no idea that snuff was inhaled (or snorted, to use the common drug term).

Don't think I could ever even try it. The thought of snorting anything is utterly unpleasant.



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User currently offlineKoosi From Czech Republic, joined May 2005, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2588 times:

Never had the orange Ozona but I found the cherry one to be pretty mild. I haven't really tried that many varieties to be honest, I liked Red Bull's kick (and price) so I decided to stick to it. You should definitely try that one if you're a menthol fan.

User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2302 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

Snuff is much better than cigarettes. You don't annoy everyone around you with that horrible horrible smell.

I wish smokers would be able to do this or chewing tobacco instead.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 9):
Don't think I could ever even try it. The thought of snorting anything is utterly unpleasant.

Not as much as smoking something if you ask me. Especially something that smells as bad as cigarettes.


User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
nice, gentlemanly habit

Sorry to be "that guy" that says this, but:

what the hell? It is a nice, gentlemanly habit?



The above post is my opinion. Don't like it? Don't read it.
User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7979 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 12):
Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
nice, gentlemanly habit

Sorry to be "that guy" that says this, but:

what the hell? It is a nice, gentlemanly habit?

Hahaha I was thinking the same thing. I've heard of cigars being gentlemanly (I'll have one once a year or less just for kicks) nothing other than that



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User currently offlineKoosi From Czech Republic, joined May 2005, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 13):
Sorry to be "that guy" that says this, but:

what the hell? It is a nice, gentlemanly habit?
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 13):
I've heard of cigars being gentlemanly (I'll have one once a year or less just for kicks) nothing other than that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snuff#History  


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 9):
Had no idea that snuff was inhaled (or snorted, to use the common drug term).

'Snorted' really is the wrong word. If you 'snort' the average snuff then you will immediately end up with a throat/sinus full of tobacco, which will be both painful and unpleasant. A light sniff to keep it in the nose (depending on the grind or moisture, for some drier and finer varieties barely any appreciable sniff is actually required) is all that is needed.

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 12):
what the hell? It is a nice, gentlemanly habit?

   It had such a reputation, yes. Hence why there are so many valuable antique snuff boxes being collected and in many cases fetching absurd prices at auction. Like I said, this is not chewing tobacco we're talking about.



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User currently offlineual747den From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2546 times:

I am so confused by this, you sniff the stuff? I can't imagine and I'm someone who probably wouldn't have much of a problem sniffing other powdery substances....

Anyways I often use chewing tabacco, I'm a mint Skoal kind of guy. My wife HATES the stuff with a passion and on a long vacation to Europe I realized on the DEN-ORD part of our DEN-ORD-LHR-LCA flight I had forgot to sneak it into my bag, so I search the gift shops at ORD and can find nothing. I figure the Hilton would have some so I attempt to run to the hotel and of course don't make it and manage to make a 767 full of people mad that I delayed their flight. That's my chew story!



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7837 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

Quoting ual747den (Reply 16):
I figure the Hilton would have some so I attempt to run to the hotel and of course don't make it and manage to make a 767 full of people mad that I delayed their flight. That's my chew story!

You'll only find chewing tobacco (snus in Europe) in thee countries, Norway, Sweden and Åland, it's illegal everywhere else.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 17):
You'll only find chewing tobacco (snus in Europe) in thee countries, Norway, Sweden and Åland, it's illegal everywhere else.

Sort of. Firstly, I'd point out that snus and chewing tobacco are slightly different beasts, both in how they are prepared (snus is cured using steam in a process that results in significantly lower levels of nitrosamines and various other horrid compounds) and in how they are used. Snus is not generally chewed, rather wadded in the mouth and left to infuse.

Also, it's not exactly correct to say that snus is 'illegal' elsewhere in Europe. Commercial import/export into or from other EU countries other than Sweden is what is prohibited. There is absolutely no law preventing me from going snus shopping in Sweden and bringing my purchases home to the UK, for example.

In any event, it's an idiotic situation when movement of smoking products is freely allowed within the EU and is far more harmful. There's a fair chance that the prohibition will be lifted in the future, though who knows with the EU....



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User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2630 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2464 times:

When I was growing-up in Atlanta in the early '50's Atlanta still had a "deep south" mentality. It was nothing like the huge metropolis it has become. Anyway, it was not unusual to go into someone's home and see a big snuff-jar on a table or mantle somewhere.
My folks kept a jar of "Bruton" brand snuff on the mantle in the living room for guests who wanted a "dip".(There was also a fine crystal dish on the coffee table that was divided into two compartments. One side had Winston cigarettes and the other side Salems.) Most of the time the only person "hitting" on that snuff jar with regularity was our housekeeper. She loved it.
Tobacco, in every form, was very much a part of life for most southerners in those days.

I recall the "spitoons" amongst the rows of seats at the old Atlanta airport. Nasty. My mother wouldn't let us near one. Of course, there were ashtrays everywhere for the smokers as well. Every once in a while you would see a "boy" or "girl" come along to clean them. That is what they called black employees back then------no matter what age they were. Duh!

I remember all the airlines offered miniature packs of different cigarettes on board the aircraft and in their "lounges". I don't recall a "dip" or "chew" being offered.

I can also tell you that after a lengthy career as a Funeral Service Professional I have seen a lot of the much less glamorous effects of tobacco use. I've seen people missing their tongues, larnyx, whole lower mandible, etc. I don't know how they survived as long as they did but it must have been a horrible death. Then there are all of the cardio-vascular issues, allergies, etc.

Beware!



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User currently offlineHywel From Malaysia, joined Apr 2008, 814 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2447 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 18):
Also, it's not exactly correct to say that snus is 'illegal' elsewhere in Europe. Commercial import/export into or from other EU countries other than Sweden is what is prohibited. There is absolutely no law preventing me from going snus shopping in Sweden and bringing my purchases home to the UK, for example.

You can easily buy it online for delivery to any EU country. You just have to tick a box that says it will be used as chewing tobacco and not for its intended use! It's a legal loophole which I still don't fully understand...


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2439 times:

Quoting Hywel (Reply 20):
You can easily buy it online for delivery to any EU country. You just have to tick a box that says it will be used as chewing tobacco and not for its intended use! It's a legal loophole which I still don't fully understand...

I'm sure people are doing that, but I'd be very dubious about whether that's totally legit. In any event, I think hopefully if I go to Norway in the next couple of months I'll be able to get a 6-hr stop in Sweden on the way back, long enough to leave the airport in Stockholm and get some snus to take back intra-EU to the UK!



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10340 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 15):
'Snorted' really is the wrong word. If you 'snort' the average snuff then you will immediately end up with a throat/sinus full of tobacco, which will be both painful and unpleasant. A light sniff to keep it in the nose (depending on the grind or moisture, for some drier and finer varieties barely any appreciable sniff is actually required) is all that is needed.

Oh, fair enough then. Thanks for the info.



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7837 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2417 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 21):
I think hopefully if I go to Norway in the next couple of months I'll be able to get a 6-hr stop in Sweden on the way back, long enough to leave the airport in Stockholm and get some snus to take back intra-EU to the UK!

Snus is cheaper tax free in Norway than it is in Sweden, so no need to leave the airport and run around Stockholm looking for snus, which you can by tax free in the airport anyway. Now the smart person loads up with the maximum allowance in OSL then buys more in ARN. This is what I do for a couple of guys I work with.


User currently offlineHywel From Malaysia, joined Apr 2008, 814 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 21):
I'm sure people are doing that, but I'd be very dubious about whether that's totally legit. In any event, I think hopefully if I go to Norway in the next couple of months I'll be able to get a 6-hr stop in Sweden on the way back, long enough to leave the airport in Stockholm and get some snus to take back intra-EU to the UK!

It's completely legit. Before the loophole needed to be created, you could openly buy snus and have it shipped to any EU country, as it's only illegal to SELL it outside Sweden. When buying online, you were buying from Sweden and then there's free movement between countries. One of the major online shops was then closed down though (thanks to the anti-smoking lobbies), and a new EU directive said they couldn't ship to other EU countries anymore. A loophole was then created where cans of snus were labelled as "chewing tobacco" in the warehouse, and if you ticked a box saying you'd use them as chewing tobacco, they could be shipped to you. The best thing is, you pay less tax on the "specially labelled" snus as chewing tobacco actually has less tax. You can get 10 cans for £22 incl. shipping to the UK, which is a bargain at £2.20 per can.

http://www.northerner.com

[Edited 2013-04-28 15:14:02]

25 RussianJet : If you look closely at that site, you'll notice that many varieties are not available for delivery from inside the EU. SOME limited choice is availab
26 Hywel : They only recently took the major brands like General off the site, and it's temporary - they'll be restocking every major brand again next month for
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