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User currently offlinevarigb707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2712 times:

What is the meaning of those two guys standing guard at the border, with half of their bodies out?


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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2670 times:

No idea on the authenticity of the statement, but:

Quote:
ROK soldiers standing guard at the JSA between the blue buildings. View from the south. All three face the North. The two ROK soldiers on either side are deliberately obscuring half of their bodies. This is both to offer a smaller target to DPRK troops, and to allow them to signal discreetly to the South if required.


User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2631 times:
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Quoting CPH-R (Reply 1):
No idea on the authenticity of the statement, but:

That sounds good to me....

I would like to see that picture with the addition of the North Korean gardener who trims the bushes.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7701 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2631 times:
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Quoting CPH-R (Reply 1):
The two ROK soldiers on either side are deliberately obscuring half of their bodies. This is both to offer a smaller target to DPRK troops, and to allow them to signal discreetly to the South if required.

I guess the guy in the middle drew the short straw then.



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User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9324 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2624 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 2):
I would like to see that picture with the addition of the North Korean gardener who trims the bushes.

Me too. watching the bushes getting trimmed is always interesting.

And to make sure that the guy does not escape I am sure they have put some land mines in the ground behind that little wall, which, BTW , is broken. Shame on NK. hopefully the beloved leader does not see that.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7701 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2608 times:
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Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
Me too. watching the bushes getting trimmed is always interesting.

Everyone likes a well-trimmed bush. Well, maybe not Superfly......but most people.  
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
Shame on NK. hopefully the beloved leader does not see that.

I'm sure someone will take a trip to the wasteland for a few years for that.



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User currently offlinevarigb707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 1):

Quote:
ROK soldiers standing guard at the JSA between the blue buildings. View from the south. All three face the North. The two ROK soldiers on either side are deliberately obscuring half of their bodies. This is both to offer a smaller target to DPRK troops, and to allow them to signal discreetly to the South if required.

'Seems about right to me. I'll buy that. Thanks for the explanation. Cheers.


User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2476 times:
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Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
Me too. watching the bushes getting trimmed is always interesting.

I wonder what kind of garden tools they use? I can see some Korean guy using some ancient Ransomes mower to cut the grass.

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
And to make sure that the guy does not escape I am sure they have put some land mines in the ground behind that little wall,

There is probably one gardener with at least two soldiers watching him.



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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 7):
There is probably one gardener with at least two soldiers watching him.

Reminds me of the time I was in West Berlin and there were East German workers repairing the western side of the wall that ran in front of the Brandenburger Tor. There was a little cage built around them, there were three workers, one guard in the cage with them, and three guards on standing on the wall watching over.

A glorious workers paradise for sure.....

Tugg

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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7952 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2406 times:

Quoting tugger (Reply 8):
A glorious workers paradise for sure.....

Yeah, but remember that cage was an anti-capitalist cage that protects the worker from the ... from the ... erm ... you know .... bad influences and stuff.

To me, calling the Berlin wall "antikapitalistischer Schutzwall"* is still the euphemism to rule them all.



* literally: anti-capitalist protection rampart



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User currently offlinetz757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2868 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 1):

No idea on the authenticity of the statement, but:

That is actually right. It was explained to me that way when I visited the DMZ last year.

They also have one guard in the buildings to make sure that 1. Nobody messes with anything in there and 2. Nobody jumps through the only operable window and defects to the North.




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User currently offlineflyingthe757 From UK - England, joined Mar 2013, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2095 times:
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Quoting tz757300 (Reply 10):
They also have one guard in the buildings to make sure that 1. Nobody messes with anything in there and 2. Nobody jumps through the only operable window and defects to the North.

Why on earth would anyone defect to the North!!!


User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3769 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

Quoting flyingthe757 (Reply 11):
Why on earth would anyone defect to the North!!!

I'm guessing it more common during the Cold War, when people of the communist persuasion were more prevalent in non-communist societies, and had no idea what North Korea was actually like.

Case in point:

Case in point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_351

Apparently, after 34 years the hijackers realized that North Korea was not the Socialist Utopia they had imagined after all, and asked to be allowed to return to Japan.

"Um, yeah, see, we'd all prefer to go to prison instead of staying here..." That must have gone over great with their hosts.

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User currently offlinejohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2586 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1832 times:

I highly recommend this documentary (which is available on Netflix streaming services), about a US Army defector to North Korea. He seems mostly "ok" with life, but one wonders how his life really is.

http://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Line-James-Joseph-Dresnok/dp/B000XJD3HU


User currently offlinefraspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2349 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
And to make sure that the guy does not escape I am sure they have put some land mines in the ground

I'm currently stationed in South Korea and have taken a few tours up to the DMZ. Really interesting for those who have never gone. Apparently in order for the DPRK soldiers to be eligible for border guard duty, they all normally have a wife and kids or some sort of ties that would prevent them from defecting south. If they defected, their families would almost certainly end up in the prison camps...

Quoting johnboy (Reply 13):
I highly recommend this documentary (which is available on Netflix streaming services), about a US Army defector to North Korea. He seems mostly "ok" with life, but one wonders how his life really is.

Saw that movie a few months back. Was really interesting watch. I thought his blonde haired blue eyed son was a real trip though lol.



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