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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3474 posts, RR: 17
Posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4327 times:
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http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/11/...-lamborghini-aventador-patrol-car/

Lets see who can outrun this police vehicle.


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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12566 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4308 times:
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Ha ha. I give them a week before they total it.


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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7371 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4219 times:

and here's what happened to one of the Italian Polizia Gallardos.



User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4101 times:

It's all show.

High-speed chases are rare and usually unnecessary if the police are working well together. No car can outrun a radio signal and roadblocks can be set up ahead of the chase.

This is merely an opulent display of wealth by a wealthy Middle-Eastern kingdom. I may think it's tasteless, but it's their money.


User currently offlineRomeoBravo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4082 times:

Another vulgar display of wealth from Dubai.

User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3302 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

Let's see them try a PIT maneuver with that.


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3952 times:

But the Italian police are using it too, whats that? in the 80s US had contemplated the idea as well for highways.

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15742 posts, RR: 27
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3946 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 6):
in the 80s US had contemplated the idea as well for highways.

There was a Mustang police package called SSP and a corresponding Camaro program in the 1980s and into the 1990s. Performance was a consideration for sure, given the lackluster driving qualities of the contemporary sedans, but was also largely driven by the desire to save money. Using a pony car was seen as a balance that used less fuel than a full size squad car but allowed police to carry more equipment than a motorcycle. As sedans achieved better performance and fuel economy, they died out.

Edit: You do see the cool police cars from time to time but they are usually promotional only and seized from drug dealers.

Also, to illustrate what I said above, I should mention the evolution of U-2 chase cars. For a while the USAF used SSP Mustangs, then police Camaros, then GTOs and now Pontiac G8s (similar to the Chevy Caprice and SS police car) with a few new Camaros mixed in too I think. I know that NASA now uses police package Chargers but might have other stuff too. There's no real need for sportier models when modern sedans are plenty fast.

[Edited 2013-04-11 20:31:39]

[Edited 2013-04-11 20:32:04]


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User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3929 times:

Quoting RomeoBravo (Reply 4):
Another vulgar display of wealth from Dubai.

Well the Metropolitan Police in London did have a Lamborghini Gallardo for a while. Of course that was hardly a vulgar display of wealth because the Met couldn't afford it and the car was on loan - a cheap form of advertising.

Another, probably not vulgar display because the Koreans are far from vulgar, impressive police vehicle was the Enzo Ferrari used by the police in Seoul.

Here in Western Australia our poor police force has to make do with souped up Commodores and Kawasaki Bolkow BK117 (B2) and Eurocopter AS365 N3 + Dauphin helicopters. High-speed chases often have to be abandoned due to the risk to other road users. Aerial observation and where possible tyre killers are stretched over the road in advance of the offender's car.


User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2046 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3883 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 6):
But the Italian police are using it too, whats that? in the 80s US had contemplated the idea as well for highways.

But that idea was scrapped because cops started doing drug busts and confiscating the Corvette ZR1s from drug lords!    



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3853 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 7):

They were looking at European cars too, that's why I mentioned it forgotten the brands though, Porsche was amongst them.


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6651 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

I just read the other day from an UK expat in Dubai that she thought she was going to die each time she took her car, since many there drive without any consideration for their life or that of others. Traffic accidents and deaths are very high.

I doubt that car will change things, I wouldn't be surprised if it was used similarly to the civilian ones...

What lacks is real enforcement and real penalties.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12250 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3687 times:
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My only issue is that they should have gone with interior LED lights...that light bar, although low profile, still creates a lot of drag (and noise...)


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User currently onlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3646 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3):
This is merely an opulent display of wealth by a wealthy Middle-Eastern kingdom. I may think it's tasteless, but it's their money.

Oh, but Dubai has unique realities. making this kind of thing totally cost-effective, just like Emirates Airline and the Burj tower. Not like other places. Everyone there including cops is made of magic.

   


User currently offlineRomeoBravo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3640 times:

Quoting Flighty (Reply 13):
Emirates Airline

EK probably is a sensible investment tbf.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3631 times:
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That's ridiculous. It's a highly impractical Police car. A pointless and ostentatious bit of boasting. If there's something *that* fast to chase, get a helicopter.


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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7521 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3611 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 7):
There was a Mustang police package called SSP and a corresponding Camaro program in the 1980s and into the 1990s. Performance was a consideration for sure, given the lackluster driving qualities of the contemporary sedans, but was also largely driven by the desire to save money.

IIRC, the Mustang police package was pretty much offered throughout most if not all of the lifespan of the Fox-body era models ('79-'93).

Police packaged Camaros were available up until the final year of the F-body models (2002).

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 7):
Using a pony car was seen as a balance that used less fuel than a full size squad car but allowed police to carry more equipment than a motorcycle. As sedans achieved better performance and fuel economy, they died out.

  
Basically, those pony-car police packages were essentially used as 'enclosed' motorcycles and only carried one person... the driver. Most agencies that used them were highway patrol/state police agencies.

Lack of 'prisoner' space was the primary reason why ponycar police vehicles weren't as widely used. As you correctly stated, once engine performance (across the board) started to improve; the demand for such police vehicles pretty much dried up.

Any current Mustangs, Camaros and/or Challengers that might be used be law enforcement agencies are essentially retail packages that anyone could buy (minus any aftermarket police-gear (lights, siren, etc) add-ons).



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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2406 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3549 times:

I just can't imagine a Lamborghini being very reliable as a daily driver and on the streets instead of on the racetrack. The maintenance bills must be astronomically high especially in the long run.

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7560 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3402 times:

Oil Money.


*bows and walks out the door*


Seriously. Not worth it.

I once saw a lambo get pulled over before by Indiana State Police and their undercover Ford Mustangs.

Not worth it  



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User currently offlinenickh From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 200 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3395 times:
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Quoting kiwirob (Reply 2):
and here's what happened to one of the Italian Polizia Gallardos.

Proof that some people have way more money than they have brains:

http://www.wreckedexotics.com

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User currently offlinevoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2074 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3199 times:

Some of the cops in Italy and Dubai simply watched too much Miami Vice when they were kids.


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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4000 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3189 times:
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Didn't Hollywood police have a Rolls-Royce for its chief at one time? I believe it was a gift from residents, but very ostentatious nevertheless.


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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6324 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3128 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 11):
I just read the other day from an UK expat in Dubai that she thought she was going to die each time she took her car, since many there drive without any consideration for their life or that of others. Traffic accidents and deaths are very high.

I have driven all over the world, and in Dubai a couple of times. I honestly didn't think they were all that terrible. Fast and a bit crazy, yeah, but not as bad as other places I've driven in and visited.


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10735 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3123 times:

A Lambo police car is nothing but a show-off and PR stunt. They certainly have far too much money in Dubai.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3):
High-speed chases are rare and usually unnecessary if the police are working well together. No car can outrun a radio signal and roadblocks can be set up ahead of the chase.

I remember a car chase between a Ferrari and a Dutch Police Porsche 911 about twenty years ago. The Ferrari won, crossed the border before being caught. I saw the disappointed Dutch policemen at the border, a great sight!

Quoting nickh (Reply 19):
http://www.wreckedexotics.com

On that site you´ll also find crashed luxury cars dumped near the roadside in various filthy rich Arabian Emirates. Just walk away an buy another toy to destroy, as dad has more than enough money.


User currently offlinethunderboltdrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 626 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days ago) and read 3105 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3):
roadblocks can be set up ahead of the chase.

Maybe in the USA but in Sweden (especially during nights) there are rarely enough
polices on duty to set up a road block even if they would want to.

However the Swedish police once had 911's as police cars:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PolisBilPorsche.jpg



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 25, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

I just saw another report that they have also acquired a police Camaro too.

IN this case the local Chevy dealer put the lights and decals on a white camaro on his lot, which is why it may be the only cop car with a red leather interior



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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7521 posts, RR: 23
Reply 26, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3112 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 25):
I just saw another report that they have also acquired a police Camaro too.

IN this case the local Chevy dealer put the lights and decals on a white camaro on his lot, which is why it may be the only cop car with a red leather interior
http://global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Leisure/2009/Dubai-police-camaro-2-660.jpg

Price is roughly 1/10 of that fore-mentioned Lamborghini.

[Edited 2013-04-16 10:48:36]


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 27, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3101 times:

You say.

Quoting na (Reply 23):
A Lambo police car is nothing but a show-off and PR stunt. They certainly have far too much money in Dubai.

And yet present this as an example.

Quoting na (Reply 23):
I remember a car chase between a Ferrari and a Dutch Police Porsche 911 about twenty years ago. The Ferrari won, crossed the border before being caught. I saw the disappointed Dutch policemen at the border, a great sight!

I don't know if running from Dubai into Sharjah or Abu Dhabi prevents Dubai police from entering those places despite them being UAE, but perhaps these cars do serve the purpose.


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10735 posts, RR: 9
Reply 28, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 27):

For one because there´s a big difference between a megaexpensive exotic Aventador and an everyday sportscar like the 911. Also a 911 is far more practical as a police car. And its long ago, I havent heard about the Rijkspolitie still having Porsches.
As for the Lambo, are there so many rich guys speeding like mad in the UAE that such a police folly makes even the slightest sense?


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6651 posts, RR: 11
Reply 29, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

Quoting SW733 (Reply 22):
I have driven all over the world, and in Dubai a couple of times. I honestly didn't think they were all that terrible. Fast and a bit crazy, yeah, but not as bad as other places I've driven in and visited.

Well if you're comparing to the anarchy in India and similar countries then yes, it's not that bad. But being crashed into by a moped is far less deadly than by a speeding sportscar or SUV.

Quoting na (Reply 28):
As for the Lambo, are there so many rich guys speeding like mad in the UAE that such a police folly makes even the slightest sense?

A chopper would still make more sense. But the answer to your question is yes, remember many 16 years old there get a Ferrari or 500HP SUV/tank as their first car !



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User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1214 posts, RR: 1
Reply 30, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

Isn't part of the reason for police forces procuring such supercars to attract young people to join?


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 31, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

Quoting na (Reply 28):
As for the Lambo, are there so many rich guys speeding like mad in the UAE that such a police folly makes even the slightest sense?

But folly can apply to many countries whose Police use BMW, Audi and Mercedes, when they can use regular brands.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15742 posts, RR: 27
Reply 32, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 31):
But folly can apply to many countries whose Police use BMW, Audi and Mercedes, when they can use regular brands.

In many of those countries BMW, Audi, and Mercedes are the regular brands.



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 33, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

Sorry but that's irrelevant, if you have regular brands to use why use those that are sold separately as luxury cars too, Germany exempted obviously.

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15742 posts, RR: 27
Reply 34, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 33):
Sorry but that's irrelevant, if you have regular brands to use why use those that are sold separately as luxury cars too

They don't have "regular" brands. The BMW is the BMW and those police (sometimes) use larger, rear wheel drive cars for the same reasons that American police do. In many cases, those cars happen to be made by brands that are considered luxury brands elsewhere in the world. And the BMWs, Volvos, and Mercedes police might use are not the loaded up versions either.



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 35, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

AFAIK the three a luxury brands in every corner of the world including Germany and Europe.

User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2825 posts, RR: 2
Reply 36, posted (1 year 5 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

Dubai police also has a Ferrari FF:

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/d...d-ferrari-ff-police-car-2013-04-17



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User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1214 posts, RR: 1
Reply 37, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2435 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 36):
Dubai police also has a Ferrari FF:

   It seems from the article below that only female officers have been assigned to drive the Ferrari and Lamborghini. Probably wise so as to preserve the life of both vehicles.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22323870

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 17):
I just can't imagine a Lamborghini being very reliable as a daily driver and on the streets instead of on the racetrack. The maintenance bills must be astronomically high especially in the long run.

   These vehicles will probably get far more use than nearly every other Lamborghini or Ferrari (most of whom actually get used very little) so it would be interesting to know how things go regarding reliability and maintenance.



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 38, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2405 times:

Quoting zkojq (Reply 37):

States ' The Italian sports car, which has a top speed of 208 mph, will be used for patrolling the tourist areas of the city" so it does seem like an in your face showfest for visitors, more so with the women driving them, another PR thing.

Thought they were for serious cross border highway chases.


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 39, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 8):
Here in Western Australia our poor police force has to make do with souped up Commodores

We've got a Porsche here in NSW (though it's only used for publicity). Shame they picked the ugliest one, and gave it an even uglier paint job...



User currently offlinecptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 40, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2210 times:

Im my area of the U.S., one occassionally sees a police car derived from a dedicated high-performance vehicle (such as a ZR-1, Z-28, SRT Challenger, etc), but not often. A radio is worth a thousand horsepower and much safer than high speed pursuits, plus a back-up unit is needed to facilaitate an arrest. These hyper police cars are usually confiscated property as someone previously mentioned, getting as much publicity use as actual service duty and don't last in the fleet all that long. I can only imagine taxpayer outcry for the purchase of, say, a Corvette police car.

Furthermore, new car performance is pretty good across the board. I'd say a local sheriff's Hemi Charger would have little (or less because of added weight) on my wife's Hemi 300C in a balls-out interstate run. Again, though, enter the radio.

Wasn't always that way. Former "police packages" from the manufacturers had an edge on mom-and-pop grocery getters, but now law enforcement options seem to be traditionally limited to severe duty suspension, cooling, high-output alts for the electronics, etc. rather than another horsepower boost. I know the California Highway Patrol and the Michigan State police have their own testing specs that must be met before a bid is secured, but last I heard, performance on acceleration and top speed could be beaten by any 20-something kid with a can of WD-40, a checkbook and the latest Hot Rod Magazine on the dash of his older Chevy, Ford or MoPar.

Interesting side note, though, when I was in Dearborn, MI,the local PD always had a (conservative in number) fleet of Lincoln Town Cars, Mustangs, etc. Some marked, some not. SuperFly would love a Town Car with a Boss 302-style hockey stripe on the side "POLICE". The headlight doors would pop up and on go the reds and blues. Ford would lease these vehicles to the city of Dearborn for a few dollars a year, perform all maintenance, etc as they were heavy-usage testing vehicles for new transmissions, rear axles, ac compressors, etc. A win-win (unless you were a perp). Regards...jack



all best; jack
User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 41, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

First of all they dont just have the Lamborghini Aventador - as one of our fellows posted above, they have a Ferrari FF as well.

But hey guys i think alot of us are simply missing the point here. Obviously the Aventador or the FF are not practical police cars and neither are they meant to engaging in high speed chases or pursuits ! They could have bloody done that with the charged up versions of their present police cars by getting BMW M5 or Mercedes E63 or even with a Mitsubishi Evolution! Heck they could have even gotten the Gallardo instead of the Aventador and the 458 Italia instead of the FF but they didnt !

And thats the point here - the cars were not acquired to fill a practicality requirement - they got them to make a statement!

Dubai has its style and whether some like it or not - it has put DXB on the global map and it works ! So we can debate till the end of time how impractical or vulgar this may be - but its a futile argument because it misses the point.

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