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How Is It Fair To Make Me Pass A Road Test Again?  
User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 5
Posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

I'm a student at the University of Arizona in Tucson, though I'm from Milwaukee. I lost my Wisconsin driver's license when I was out partying a few days ago, so I went to the DMV here in Tucson today to get a new one. I waited in line for nearly an hour only to be told afterwards that since I'm from out of state and don't have an active license to show them, I'd need to take a road test again. Mind you, I did have my old driver license on me to show them but they wouldn't accept it since it expired two years ago. How is this fair? I don't want to have to study up for this again and I need an ID for when I go for my flight home in a few weeks. Ridiculous.


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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9945 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3215 times:
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What do you mean, how is that fair? How is it unfair?


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15735 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3209 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
I don't want to have to study up for this again and I need an ID for when I go for my flight home in a few weeks. Ridiculous.

If you don't have to drive in Arizona you might be able to get a state ID to use until you can get a replacement driver's license in Wisconsin.



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User currently offlineDarkSnowyNight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1356 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):

To be perfectly honest, I think the question you're asking is more along the lines of "how is this convenient" than how is it fair.

The objective reality is that you're always responsible to know what the rules are (as in you can't really get out of ticket for that), so in theory you should be able to pass a test on this at any random time.

I agree that it does suck to have to go down to DMV and get a new ID, and wait in line and all that, and if there were a better way, then I'd be for it. But if AZ wants you to know their rules, and won't take WI's word for it (which as two provinces in the same country, they should totally be forced to, but that isn't they way it is), then they have the privilege to do so.



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3190 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
I'm a student at the University of Arizona in Tucson, though I'm from Milwaukee. I lost my Wisconsin driver's license when I was out partying a few days ago, so I went to the DMV here in Tucson today to get a new one. I waited in line for nearly an hour only to be told afterwards that since I'm from out of state and don't have an active license to show them, I'd need to take a road test again. Mind you, I did have my old driver license on me to show them but they wouldn't accept it since it expired two years ago. How is this fair? I don't want to have to study up for this again and I need an ID for when I go for my flight home in a few weeks. Ridiculous.

No reason for another state to recognize another DMV's paperwork, especially if it is expired.

Regardless, if it is anything like CA's test, what do you need to study? I didn't even read the booklet and passed with flying colors at 15 1/2... It's a joke in the United States.



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User currently offlineDarkSnowyNight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1356 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3184 times:

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 4):
No reason for another state to recognize another DMV's paperwork, especially if it is expired.

Actually, there are few (legal) reasons. Mainly, this is covered by something called the Driver License Compact. It has little bearing here, but it's designed chiefly to prevent those revoked or suspended from getting around that by using other states to issue new licenses.



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11591 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

Seems pretty fair to me.

But, in fairness, I had a valid Oregon license in hand when I applied (and received) my California license.

I actually expected California to give me a road test. But, I passed the written test and got my actual CA license.

Your WI license expired two years ago. You now live in AZ. So, you have been breaking the law in all 50 states. And you think you are being treated unfairly? A student in AZ with a VALID WI license is one thing. I can let that slide. But a student in AZ with an EXPIRED WI license is something completely different.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15735 posts, RR: 27
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 6):
Your WI license expired two years ago. You now live in AZ. So, you have been breaking the law in all 50 states. And you think you are being treated unfairly?

No he lost a valid WI license and still had an expired one, which the DMV wouldn't honor for obvious reasons.



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User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9330 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3156 times:

You lost your WI license while you were "out partying". OK, how much blood alcohol did you have?

I guess the AZ DMV did right, as long as they have no way of checking the reason why a license was "lost" to ask for a test.

Which, in the US is piece of cake anyhow. When I remember my NY State test some 40 years ago it was driving around the block, , a broken U-turn and parking the car in reverse. Plus some written test. Mail from Albany came within 2 weeks. Nothing in comparison what a driving test was then and is today in Europe.



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9945 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3083 times:
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Quoting seb146 (Reply 6):
A student in AZ with a VALID WI license is one thing. I can let that slide.

So can the authorities, far as I know. I don't believe students are required to obtain a license for the state in which they're studying. I certainly didn't, nor did anyone else I know.



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User currently offlinetrav110 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 536 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Is there a way you can report it lost without being physically present? There really is no room for fairness in this case, it's just how the system works. Your options are limited to taking the test or driving temporarily without your WI license until you can get a new one.

Do you have your drivers license number memorized in case you get pulled over? Explain to the officer that you are a student from out of state and that you lost your DL, and the only way to get a replacement is to do it in person, which you are going to do as soon as possible. If you have a clean driving record and the cop is reasonable you might get off with a warning, but that's a big *if*, and you're putting yourself in danger of getting fined (although It's probably what I'd do). If you're willing to take that risk, go for it. If not, take the test and move on.


User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12500 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3062 times:
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Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
How is this fair?

You think it's unfair you have to pass again since you lost your licence after "partying"? In the UK you would most likely have been banned from driving. You get zero sympathy for your stupidity.



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User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3245 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3055 times:

This sounds completely backwards. I had no idea (although never thought about it before) that one States' DMV couldn't talk to another. Here in the UK if you loose your license, you just fill in a form online (or call DVLA, or fill in a form at the Post Office), pay a fee (I think about $30), and they post you a new one. Why on Earth should you retake your practical test just to get a copy of your license? If you loose your degree certificate, do you have to retake your uni exams? Or just ask for a reprint? Crazy!

Can you get a non-drivers ID from AZ? My friend from Minnesota can't drive, but has one of these for ID. You wouldn't need to pass a test to get one of those!



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User currently offlineSmittyone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3000 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
I'm a student at the University of Arizona in Tucson, though I'm from Milwaukee. I lost my Wisconsin driver's license when I was out partying a few days ago, so I went to the DMV here in Tucson today to get a new one. I waited in line for nearly an hour only to be told afterwards that since I'm from out of state and don't have an active license to show them, I'd need to take a road test again. Mind you, I did have my old driver license on me to show them but they wouldn't accept it since it expired two years ago. How is this fair? I don't want to have to study up for this again and I need an ID for when I go for my flight home in a few weeks. Ridiculous.

If your permanent residence is in Milwaukee and you are temporarily a student in AZ, I recommend that you just contact Wisconsin DMV for a replacement license through the mail:

http://www.dot.state.wi.us/drivers/drivers/apply/lost.htm

If you explain your deadline you could probably get it fast. Wisconsin DMV in my experience is pretty good.

[Edited 2013-04-13 04:55:06]

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21571 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3000 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 11):
You think it's unfair you have to pass again since you lost your licence after "partying"? In the UK you would most likely have been banned from driving.

By "lost", I'm pretty sure he means "physically misplaced", not that he was stopped for dangerous driving and his license revoked. Banning someone from driving for misplacing something is pretty steep.

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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7702 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2940 times:
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If them's the rules then I guess it's fair. It's everyone's responsibility to know what the deal is.


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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2909 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
This sounds completely backwards. I had no idea (although never thought about it before) that one States' DMV couldn't talk to another. Here in the UK if you loose your license, you just fill in a form online (or call DVLA, or fill in a form at the Post Office), pay a fee (I think about $30), and they post you a new one. Why on Earth should you retake your practical test just to get a copy of your license? If you loose your degree certificate, do you have to retake your uni exams? Or just ask for a reprint? Crazy!

I'm assuming that in the UK it is one organization that gives the license. Here, there are fifty different ones...



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User currently offlineSmittyone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
This sounds completely backwards. I had no idea (although never thought about it before) that one States' DMV couldn't talk to another. Here in the UK if you loose your license, you just fill in a form online (or call DVLA, or fill in a form at the Post Office), pay a fee (I think about $30), and they post you a new one. Why on Earth should you retake your practical test just to get a copy of your license? If you loose your degree certificate, do you have to retake your uni exams? Or just ask for a reprint? Crazy!

Can you get a non-drivers ID from AZ? My friend from Minnesota can't drive, but has one of these for ID. You wouldn't need to pass a test to get one of those!

If he's indeed a legal Wisconsin resident temporarily residing in AZ for college, and lost a Wisconsin license, he can get a replacement from Wisconsin (because they have his digital picture etc. in their computer).

Unless there is more to it, this entire issue may be a nothing burger caused by OP making the mistake of talking to Arizona's DMV to begin with.


User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

I had this happen to me when I was I college. Just have WI issue a replacement DL, you don't even have to call because you can do it online. They will send it to your parents address and jsut have your parents overnight it to you.

You made this much harder than it needed to be.


User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2159 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2868 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 18):
I had this happen to me when I was I college. Just have WI issue a replacement DL, you don't even have to call because you can do it online. They will send it to your parents address and jsut have your parents overnight it to you.

You made this much harder than it needed to be.

  

I'm not exactly sure why you thought the AZ DMW would be able to replace your WI drivers license. They thought you were trying to obtain a new AZ DL with an expired WI card, which obviously they won't just freely give you.


User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11591 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 7):
he lost a valid WI license and still had an expired one

That was not how I read it, but I understand ANY state will not accept an expired license period. Which is how it should be. And, if AZ took his valid WI license, they probably had good reason. It's his own fault. I also think if he goes back to WI to get a valid license, they will probably either tell him no or make it severely limited, depending on why it was taken in the first place.

He could go to AZ DMV and get a state issued identification card. Not valid for driving. Not that it stops anyone.



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User currently onlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3060 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2830 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 20):
That was not how I read it, but I understand ANY state will not accept an expired license period. Which is how it should be. And, if AZ took his valid WI license, they probably had good reason. It's his own fault. I also think if he goes back to WI to get a valid license, they will probably either tell him no or make it severely limited, depending on why it was taken in the first place.

OP didn't have his licence revoked, he physically misplaced it, but had his old expired licence to show the DMV (with details like licence number, dob, etc.), and hoped he could use that instead of his physically misplaced licence to get an AZ licence.

It's funny how using 'lost' gets misinterpreted so quickly. My cousin came home one day after going out, telling people he lost his licence. Everyone just silently judged him for drink driving or dangerous driving. It took 2 weeks (when his licence came in the mail) before anyone realized he meant misplaced it.

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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12500 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2829 times:
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Quoting Mir (Reply 14):
By "lost", I'm pretty sure he means "physically misplaced", not that he was stopped for dangerous driving and his license revoked.

He'll need to clarify that, but the way he said he lost his licence after partying led me (and others) to the conclusion he was done for DUI. If that is the case, then I unreservedly withdraw my comment.

Quoting Mir (Reply 14):
Banning someone from driving for misplacing something is pretty steep.

Well, yes that would be.  



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7147 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

If you don't need to drive get an ID card and get a new license in Wisconsin. If you do need to drive depending on the laws of the state as long as you have a valid license you should be ok if stopped by the cops give them the ID, tell them you lost your drivers license a few days ago and with all your info they should be able to look it up? I might be completely wrong here though so I would call the Arizona Highway Patrol and ask.

Or just take the stupid test, whether it is a driving and written test or just one of the two. If you can't pass it very easily you should not be driving to begin with. Driving test in the U.S. are an absolute joke and I wish there were highway standards and higher fees to pay.



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11591 posts, RR: 15
Reply 25, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 21):
OP didn't have his licence revoked, he physically misplaced it

Even if this were the case, AZ has a valid point. Why should they accept an expired, out of state license as proof of anything? Would WI accept an expired out of state license? My guess would be no.



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2849 posts, RR: 8
Reply 26, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2821 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
How is this fair?

How is it unfair ?

In Australia, you would be enjoying a period of license cancellation, a criminal record, and a VERY steep fine as well as having to sit the entire test again once you were eligible.

[Edited 2013-04-13 14:51:22]


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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8226 posts, RR: 8
Reply 27, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2810 times:

It's really not that hard to take the test. Read the little book and take the test. By now you should be able to pass the actual driving test with no problems - simply because of your experience. Remember to use the turn signals when going through the parallel parking test and remember to stop before the actual STOP sign. Those are two areas where they will get you.

Actual driving test might not be needed. When we moved to Australia all I had to do was pass the written test and show my OK license. But then it was current.  


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Reply 28, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

When I was out of state going to college, I had a DL and paid for a second copy of my DL. That way, if I was out getting drunk, or for any reason, and lost it, I still had one. Maybe you should order two this time.

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User currently offlineIllinoisMan From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2781 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
I don't want to have to study up for this again and I need an ID for when I go for my flight home in a few weeks. Ridiculous.

Study up? For a drivers test? You're kidding, right? Skim through the drivers manual, you're a college kid. This ought to be a breeze.


User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 30, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2786 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 1):
What do you mean, how is that fair? How is it unfair?
Quoting seb146 (Reply 6):
Seems pretty fair to me.
Quoting Polot (Reply 19):
I'm not exactly sure why you thought the AZ DMW would be able to replace your WI drivers license. They thought you were trying to obtain a new AZ DL with an expired WI card, which obviously they won't just freely give you.
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 26):
How is it unfair ?

I know I shouldn't be driving around or actively using an expired ID, but why shouldn't I still be able to use it as proof that I've passed a road test before? I don't know of anyone who's had to pass a road test more than once in their life. Once you've passed it once I figured it was common sense that you wouldn't have to take it again.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
If you don't have to drive in Arizona you might be able to get a state ID to use until you can get a replacement driver's license in Wisconsin.
Quoting flymia (Reply 23):
If you don't need to drive get an ID card and get a new license in Wisconsin.

Yes, they gave me that option when I was there, but I will be driving here so that wouldn't of worked.

Quoting Smittyone (Reply 17):
If he's indeed a legal Wisconsin resident temporarily residing in AZ for college, and lost a Wisconsin license, he can get a replacement from Wisconsin (because they have his digital picture etc. in their computer).
Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 18):
Just have WI issue a replacement DL, you don't even have to call because you can do it online. They will send it to your parents address and jsut have your parents overnight it to you.

Well I was just gonna suck it up and go over there on Monday to take the test, but maybe I'll do this instead. At least that way I won't have to worry about suffering any embarrassment in case I don't pass. Hopefully they can ship it out to me pretty quick because in the mean time I also won't be able to get into the bar without any ID.

[Edited 2013-04-13 16:23:28]


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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8491 posts, RR: 2
Reply 31, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2756 times:

Maybe you should have a passport.

Anyway, to fly, that is a different issue. Legally, you need not show ID at all. It is just a "policy" IIRC. An expired DL, for example, should be ok. That's just my opinion but I think it is also true. Let's put it this way. It is not illegal for the TSA to wave you onboard if they are pretty sure you are who you say you are.

From the TSA's website,

"Not having an ID, does not necessarily mean a passenger won't be allowed to fly. If passengers are willing to provide additional information, we have other means of substantiating someone's identity, like using publicly available databases.

Passengers who are cleared through this process may be subject to additional screening. "


Or you can just replace your lost/stolen DL by mail. You're covered.

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/drivers/apply/stolen-dl.htm


User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1342 posts, RR: 4
Reply 32, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2752 times:

Quoting Flighty (Reply 31):
Maybe you should have a passport.

That was my thought. Too late now of course, but it's always good to have two forms of ID in case of emergency.

Dunno about AZ but the driver's test in CA is comically easy. I studied for the exam portion for less than 30 minutes and passed it. In the driving test I nearly ran over some crackheads and still passed (I got lucky that the instructor really hated crackheads).

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 30):
I know I shouldn't be driving around or actively using an expired ID, but why shouldn't I still be able to use it as proof that I've passed a road test before?

This has always bugged me as well. Just cause it has expired doesn't mean I've become somebody else. If it was a fake I'd hardly put an expired date on it.



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User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1635 posts, RR: 2
Reply 33, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
I don't want to have to study up for this again

Study for a drivers license test? Are you kidding? It's like 25 common sense questions at most and 25 to 30$ .. that varies with states of course.

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 30):
At least that way I won't have to worry about suffering any embarrassment in case I don't pass.

If you can't pass a drivers license test in the United States then you are a flippin idiot, that goes for anyone.



Just get a state ID and be over with it.



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3360 posts, RR: 9
Reply 34, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 26):
How is it unfair ?

In Australia, you would be enjoying a period of license cancellation, a criminal record, and a VERY steep fine as well as having to sit the entire test again once you were eligible.

You get a criminal charge in Australia for losing the license card which is what happened here, I highly doubt it.

The OP didn't commit any crime he just lost the physical card that says he can drive. Something a lot of people I know have done and it costs $10 to replace in Ontario (where I live).

No road violations were committed here.

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
I don't want to have to study up for this again and I need an ID for when I go for my flight home in a few weeks. Ridiculous.

Call the Wisconsin DMV and explain your situation, they probably can send you a temporary license by fax or e-mail and perhaps they can rush a new license to where you are. Do not spend the money to get and AZ license and take the test.

They may actually force you to register your car in AZ if you do so.

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 30):
I don't know of anyone who's had to pass a road test more than once in their life. Once you've passed it once I figured it was common sense that you wouldn't have to take it again.

It depends where you go, as a Canadian I don't have to take the test going into most (probably all) US states as they would transfer it over, the same applies to a lot of other countries as well.



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9945 posts, RR: 26
Reply 35, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2582 times:
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Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 30):

I know I shouldn't be driving around or actively using an expired ID, but why shouldn't I still be able to use it as proof that I've passed a road test before?

If you only have an expired license, who knows why you don't have a current one. Maybe it was revoked or something.

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 30):
Yes, they gave me that option when I was there, but I will be driving here so that wouldn't of worked.

You can drive out-of-state on a license. If you LIVE out-of-state, then you're required to switch your license to your new state. But being an out-of-state student doesn't count, far as I know. You should be perfectly fine driving on a WI license.

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 30):
Once you've passed it once I figured it was common sense that you wouldn't have to take it again.

Once you've passed, I figured it was common sense that, should you have to take it again, you'd pass again.....



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User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2159 posts, RR: 1
Reply 36, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 35):
But being an out-of-state student doesn't count, far as I know.

It doesn't. Going to a school out of state is not the same as legally moving to and becoming a resident of that state, and most states won't recognize you as one (for undergrads at least, things can be different for graduate students).


User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11591 posts, RR: 15
Reply 37, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2553 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 30):
why shouldn't I still be able to use it as proof that I've passed a road test before?

So any person who gets a DUI and has their license suspended should just be able to walk into any DMV and get a new license? I am all for authorities using their judgment about things. If a person's license had expired two days ago, I would say they should be able to get a new one with no test. Two years? Test.



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6015 posts, RR: 14
Reply 38, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2507 times:

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 4):

Regardless, if it is anything like CA's test, what do you need to study? I didn't even read the booklet and passed with flying colors at 15 1/2... It's a joke in the United States.

Whoop de doo! Don't be cocky just because you got it on the first try without looking. Others aren't blessed with your superior intellect.

Plus, CA's test isn't exactly the easiest. I've seen easier, and scarily, open-book.



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User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 39, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2390 times:

I went back to the DMV to take the test today, and I passed!!! (again)



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User currently offlineStabilator From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 697 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 26):

Sensationalist statements as usual. He physically misplaced it, he wasn't drinking/driving. It isn't a crime here to misplace your license. Kinda shocked it is in Australia...

Also MKE, people who work at the DMV are even more dim than those who work for the TSA, you'll learn to deal 



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2849 posts, RR: 8
Reply 41, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

Quoting Stabilator (Reply 40):
He physically misplaced it, he wasn't drinking/driving. It isn't a crime here to misplace your license. Kinda shocked it is in Australia...

Evidently I'm not the only one who "misunderstood" the OP !    

Go back through the other posts to see the confusion !

And no, its not a criminal offense to lose/misplace your license here in Australia, as you no FULL well .



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User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 42, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 34):
They may actually force you to register your car in AZ if you do so.

You passed the test again..........who's test ? Are you saying you now have an Arizona operator's license ? If so, you just got out of one trick bag, and into another one; One very big issue here that everyone seems to be missing............

Do you own a car ? If so, I'm assuming that it's registered in Wisconsin; if it is, you better have Wisconsin operator's license in you pocket if you get stopped by a cop ! And you also better have liability insurance ON your car; Now.....go try to buy insurance on a Wisconsin registered vehicle, with an Arizona operator's; you CAN'T ! Yes, you can legally drive someone else's vehicle with a driver's license from another state, but your driver's license MUST be issued by the SAME state your vehicle is registered in, and ALSO your insurance.

I have been living in Indiana for 10 years; my truck has Ohio plates on it, and I get my new plates every 2 years on line from Ohio DMV; my truck insurance is from Ohio; I even go to Ohio to vote, and as far as I'm concerned, because I own real estate in Ohio and pay taxes on it, I'm STILL a legal resident of Ohio; Guess what.......Ohio agrees with me; but Indiana doesn't ! Fortunately, the sheriff of the County I live in is a good friend of mine; we were talking about this one night down in the village where In live; here's what he told me..........I don't have to worry about any of his deputies giving me any problem, at least as long as I'm not breaking any law; but if a State cop was to stop me........I have a problem.

A year ago I bought a new car; my "then" fiancee' ( and now wife ), registered it in her name, got Indiana plates on it, Indiana insurance......... now guess what.......I'm NOT allowed to drive the damned car unless she's in it with me ! I can't register it in my name because I have an Ohio driver's license; my plates on my truck don't expire until December, and my CDL is good for another years after that. But until I register my truck in Indiana, then get an Indiana driver's license, then I can get Indiana insurance. Do you still YOU have "problems" ?



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 43, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2235 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 38):
lessed with your superior intellect.

Superior intellect?

On an internet forum?

Very funny. That one made me laugh....



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User currently offlinebhill From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 966 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2197 times:

So you did a really dumb thing and your license was suspended for poor judgement skills and you are pissed at the DMV?

Right....

And you need to study for a driving test after having driving experiance???? Another bad judgement choice.


I may sound like a jerk, but perhaps you should not be driving...

Or stay at home when you party.

Driving is a privilege, not a right.



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User currently offlinedoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3403 posts, RR: 3
Reply 45, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

Quoting bhill (Reply 44):
So you did a really dumb thing and your license was suspended for poor judgement skills and you are pissed at the DMV?

I may sound like a jerk, but perhaps you should read the thread before replying.



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 46, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2149 times:

Kinda sucks but meh, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I don't see it as unfair, it's just life. And griping about it on a.net is a little extreme IMO but to each's own...


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1871 posts, RR: 2
Reply 47, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2101 times:
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What you should have done was requested a replacement WI licence and then once you received that in the mail you could have traded it in for the AZ one. Very simple process, can be done by mail and they can even mail it to AZ.

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/drivers/apply/lost.htm



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User currently offlineRIXrat From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 788 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2074 times:

After 16 years of living in Europe, I settled in Arizona. When I showed up at the local DMV and showed them my EU drivers licence, the clerk went into confusion. Only licenses with *D* for Germany could be transferred. Since mine was not, I had to take the computer test and the driving test. No problem.

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