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Picking The Right MAC  
User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

Well back in December I purchased a new Dell with windows 8, its already dead. Hard drive crashed a week ago. I have officially had it with Microsoft and PC in general. Thank goodness I talked Costco into taking it back. I have decided on a Mac Book pro. My question is should I get the one with the flash drive and retina display for $1499 or a more basic one for $1199. Most of my time on computer is for the net, word processing, watching videos (net flix and such). I dont need to design rockets or do a ton of artwork on it. What additional memories should I have installed on it?

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User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

Must have had a long string of bad experiences with PCs and Windows to make you want to jump ship.. I'm lucky I've never had any issues with Dell or Sony. Im surprised PC makers aren't out of business. Who buys 'em anymore?  

Since you have the money to buy a Mac, I would consider the best you can afford, since you were't asking about the lightness of the Air...

But, there was just an exact thread 2 days ago with 40 replies, You might be able to find your answers on that one,,,

Need A New MacBook, Air Or Retina Pro? (by kl838 Apr 13 2013 in Non Aviation)


User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1620 times:

Pick a Mac  

Seriously, if you like OSX get a Mac but don't blame it on a HD breaking down. Apple use same components.


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6844 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

Yep, hard drives break down, even very expensive professional ones that you won't find in any laptop. Solid state drives break down too, although in a laptop the fact that they don't have moving parts is a significant benefit to their health. Can still happen though, happened to me with my first one, now I'm on my third. One day it was gone, no warning.


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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1598 times:

I agree physical components are not the best things to base your decision on. That said, if you want to go OSX, it is a good option, as is Windows but different. I recently switched to OSX, and have found it preferable to Windows especially Windows 8 and I don´t intend to return to Windows for a long time .. 

It is a very different OS, but as most tech related things go these days, most are very valid options and subject only to taste. So try it...

Your needs point to a more traditional machine, a Macbook Air (if you appreciate lightness, as I do; I walk around alot with my machine) or 15 inch MacBook Pro maybe. I don´t like this generation´s Retina Macs, as they seem to suffer performance related issues, I think the next generations´ would probably fix that problem. The non retina machines especially the Airs (I am fascinated by Airs and their Windows Ultrabook counterparts) are great for their purposes. I wouldn´t buy the 13 inch MacBook Pro because the resolution is quite bad.

But f you can wait, wait, because some refreshes of the product line is due shortly.

P.S. I should mention that Apple Computers generally have great hardware. The keyboards and especially the multitouch glass trackpads are absolutely wonderful.

[Edited 2013-04-19 23:11:35]


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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8433 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1491 times:

Before picking a preference you might spend some time with the models available at an Apple Store to see what is the most comfortable for you.

I have a 4 year old 13" MacBook Pro and have been more than satisfied with it. I do, however, have a bit of envy when I use my wife's 13 MacBook Air. My goal now is an Air plus replacing a very old G5 iMac with a new 27" iMac. That should take care of me for many years.


User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1469 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 5):
That should take care of me for many years.

Great thing about most Apple machines I´ve owned. They last forever..



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21801 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

Quoting captaink (Reply 4):
P.S. I should mention that Apple Computers generally have great hardware. The keyboards and especially the multitouch glass trackpads are absolutely wonderful.

The laptop DVD players, on the other hand, are horrible.

-Mir



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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 7):
The laptop DVD players, on the other hand, are horrible.

I have always had a problem with slot loading drives, if you are referring to that. Nevertheless I haven´t use a DVD/CD in a very long time, even with my recently sold Lenovo machine. I currently have a MacBook Air and the need for use of DVD/CD has yet to come up..



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21801 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

Quoting captaink (Reply 8):
I have always had a problem with slot loading drives, if you are referring to that.

Indeed I am.

Quoting captaink (Reply 8):
Nevertheless I haven´t use a DVD/CD in a very long time, even with my recently sold Lenovo machine. I currently have a MacBook Air and the need for use of DVD/CD has yet to come up..

My laptop is how I watch DVDs. Except it generally isn't, since the player just spits out the disc immediately unless you hold the computer at precisely the right angle relative to the horizontal and sacrifice a goat. Except it doesn't, because the disc gets stuck in the player and I have to struggle to get it out in order to try again.

It's a piece of crap, plain and simple.

-Mir



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6647 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1419 times:
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Quoting captaink (Reply 6):
Great thing about most Apple machines I´ve owned. They last foreve

I have a late 2008 Aluminum MacBook. It has 2GB of RAM, i just added 2GB more for $25. I hope i am not jinxing myself, but i really want to change it for a newer one. However, i cannot justify it. It works perfectly, has never crashed; Mountain Lion might be have slowed it down a bit though.

Maybe i will be forced to upgrade once the new OS stops supporting my mac,,



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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1414 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 9):

It's a piece of crap, plain and simple.

I would agree with you on that. I actually found slot loading drives frightening.. Strange description, I know.

Yeh if you look at DVDs etc, then you need be mindful about what kind of machine you get. I get all my video via web services, so no problem there for me..



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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1413 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 10):
I have a late 2008 Aluminum MacBook.

My brother has a 2007 MacBook.. LOL he wasn´t eligible to upgrade to Mountain Lion though and as such was spared the performance issues. But he wants a new computer, since he uses his iPad and phone more often than his computer, he is finding it hard to have reason for a new machine. But yeah, there comes a time when we have treat ourselves to a new machine..



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User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2729 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

I have an Air in the bedroom with a HD Cinema display hooked up and in the living room a MacMini Server quad core running Mac OSX Server. I drive the hifi from the Server via an upscaling DAC and drive the TV over HDMI straight from the Server. All the music, photos, data and films are in iCloud and also shared over the wifi LAN. Finally, other rooms are reachable via Airplay. I keep an iPod Touch for the car which auto synchs over wifi when I bring it home or am on a wifi netework. Then I have a older heavier iPad V1 for vacations which benefits from all the iCloud content.

Reliability: As has been pointed out, Apple are no angels with reliability. They have a nasty habit of blowing power supplies (2 Mac Minis, 1 Airport Express, 1 TimeCapsule ... yes, with power protection in place). They have a nastier habit of early obsolescence: Old Airport Express does NOT support current Airplay; no new IOS support for the iPad v1, etc, etc,..). Air is about 3 years old and is the flash drive model; overheats and goes 90% kernal cpu busy after playing video for a while. Seems they didn't have perfected the airflow at that point. Not sure if this has been fixed in newer models...

Interoperability: for home use, ease of use and integration, hard to beat; it just works; they are the new Bang & Olufsen

I also like the fact that the look and feel of Apple at home has no reminder of the look and feel of Windows at work....



[Edited 2013-04-22 09:16:45]


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User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1252 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1401 times:

Generally I agree with the posts above. I switched from a PC to a Macbook years ago and when I decided to get a new one I only considered Macs (I know, blind loyalty is not always a good thing). A couple of other thoughts:

1) If you use Canon DSLR cameras there are compatibility issues with the Canon software and newer macs. Personally I don't care as I use the image capture software from the Mac. I find it works well and at a good speed when downloading pix from my camera.

2) If you are only in places with reliable wifi then you don't need the CD/DVD drive and the Air might be a decent option. I travel in far too many places without reliable wifi so I still have some movies on DVD that I can watch with my MacBook Pro. That being said - I am posting this from Hanga Roa on Rapa Nui (didn't expect wifi here).

3) I don't see the value in the 15" over the 13" - but that's just me.

Let us know what you decide.



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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1382 times:

Quoting planeguy727 (Reply 14):
3) I don't see the value in the 15" over the 13" - but that's just me.

Screen real estate. I am a student, I use my machine to write articles and do email/web browsing etc.. But my friend is a software engineer, he seems to value more screen real estate when on the run. On his desk he has the option of an external monitor.



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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8709 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

Get the cheap one. You can always buy more equipment later with the money you saved. Always.

But, be sure to get enough RAM / upgrade in aftermarket. My MBP has 8GB of ram and actually i need that, for virtual machines / work.


User currently offlinevirginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 913 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1364 times:

I'd recommend either the 13" or 15" with retina display as it is beautifully crisp and vivid. You'll see exactly what I mean when you go in the store and see it next to the non-retina model.

Let us know which model you choose!



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21495 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 13):
Reliability: As has been pointed out, Apple are no angels with reliability. They have a nasty habit of blowing power supplies (2 Mac Minis, 1 Airport Express, 1 TimeCapsule ... yes, with power protection in place).

I can't speak to your other points, but neither any of my own Apple computers nor any of my Apple mobile devices has ever had a power supply defect in over 15 years. Nor has any of the other users I know ever had a power supply issue.

That doesn't say it couldn't ever happen, but it speaks to your issues looking a lot like a local issue specific to your particular circumstances.

A surge protector only protects against one specific kind of problem – and generally it will only protect once and it will be ineffective after that, with most not having an indication of whether they've been blown already.

And there are various other factors besides just surges which can potentially affect a power supply.

I would guess you're having issues with grid power which overstress the power supplies in one way or another. The number of destroyed power supplies you've listed is extraordinary and the likelihood of them actually all being due to product defects is very, very low.

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 13):
They have a nastier habit of early obsolescence: Old Airport Express does NOT support current Airplay;

I've got an old one myself (first generation Airport Express), and it still works perfectly through AirPlay with my iMac, my iPad and my iPhone (all are up to date). I don't see what you're referring to here.

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 13):
no new IOS support for the iPad v1, etc, etc,..).

The iPad 1 has indeed been left behind because it just doesn't have enough RAM to properly support the newer iOS versions. Other than that, Apple's iOS support for older devices is actually exemplary – and sadly unmatched by any other mobile manufacturer.

My 2006 MacBook Pro has been left behind by the latest OS X version, but six years isn't too bad either (and it still gets security updates).

So I somehow fail to see what particularly horrible deficiencies your "etc, etc,..." is supposed to cover.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 16):
Get the cheap one. You can always buy more equipment later with the money you saved. Always.

The primary differences can't be made up after the purchase.

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 17):

I'd recommend either the 13" or 15" with retina display as it is beautifully crisp and vivid. You'll see exactly what I mean when you go in the store and see it next to the non-retina model.

Indeed. Maybe the difference in display, weight and size really don't matter to you, but you should check them out in person. To me they would, particularly at the marginal price difference at comparably selected specs otherwise.

[Edited 2013-04-23 15:24:54]

User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5351 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 13):

Definitely agree with you about the reliability. I have had a MacBook for just over 1 1/2 years now. In that time, I've had issues with the charger, the hard drive died in less than 1 year, and the battery is now dead after only making it to 331 cycles vs. the supposed 1000 cycles it should have made it to.



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User currently offlinecaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1221 times:

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 17):

Let us know which model you choose!

We should do which Apple computer you have..? I love

Quoting OA412 (Reply 19):
Definitely agree with you about the reliability. I have had a MacBook for just over 1 1/2 years now. In that time, I've had issues with the charger, the hard drive died in less than 1 year, and the battery is now dead after only making it to 331 cycles vs. the supposed 1000 cycles it should have made it to.

It happens and everyone´s experience is different. I for one have had better luck with Macs. They last longer and I have suffered less problems. But I know many who have not fared so well. The choice comes down to which do you prefer, and most importantly, which operating system do you like most. Using which OS, do you have the better workflow. Since Apple started using Intel processors, the actually physical parts differ little when compared to their Windows running cousins.



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