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Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2613 times:

Will Maybach be back again one day?

I have seen quite a number of them in Hong Kong, New York, LA etc

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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15719 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2610 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Will Maybach be back again one day?

No. Mercedes is planning a new model under the Mercedes marque that will be above the S-Class.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2595 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):

Will Maybach be back again one day?

Yes, of course. It's coming back with Duesenberg. Just wait.



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7133 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1):
Mercedes is planning a new model under the Mercedes marque that will be above the S-Class.

Not they aren't, what they are planning is multiple versions of the S Class, not a model above the S class.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 3):
what they are planning is multiple versions of the S Class

They should bring the 600 back. Life as a dictator has never been the same since the last one rolled off the line.



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User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3738 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Will Maybach be back again one day?

With any luck it won't.
Lest they make a travesty of the name again.



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

I dont think and dont hope that they´ll try to revive the name again. Expensive mistake. There will be a ultraluxury Mercedes based on the S-Class with hopefully a more distinct body, positioned somewhere between the upper end of the traditional S-Class and the late Maybach. I expect it to be a rival to the Bentley Flying Spur and RR Ghost, in Stuttgart fashion with tons of gimmicks.
A classic fourdoor, and a stretch are announced (danger here, as Mercedes never managed to build an attractive stretch since the 600 of the 60s!). Possible is also a fourdoor convertible.

The "new" Maybach was a mistake from the start. First the name was dead for more than 50 years, hardly anyone rermembered them. Then the original Maybachs, while being Germanys ultraluxury brand, the German Rolls-Royce, with few exceptions never carried bodies as elegant as many of the English original. Maybachs were seen as a statement of extreme wealth, not taste. They also sold in microscopic numbers. In that sense the Mercedes-Maybach was a worthy successor.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days ago) and read 2384 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 4):
They should bring the 600 back. Life as a dictator has never been the same since the last one rolled off the line.

Aren't they producing the S600 still?


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 7):
Aren't they producing the S600 still?

Different car: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_600



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User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1302 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2252 times:

Never understood why Mercedes-Benz thought they needed a halo marque. They safely occupy the upper stratosphere of the automotive world already; if anything the Maybach dragged the marque down with its unfortunate connections to rappers, oligarchs and sheikhs with far more money than class.


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2248 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 9):
Never understood why Mercedes-Benz thought they needed a halo marque.

Because they lost out on Rolls to BMW and Bentley to VW, their main German competition. Resurrecting what had historically been another prestigious nameplate was their less than successful consolation prize.



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2240 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 9):

Never understood why Mercedes-Benz thought they needed a halo marque. They safely occupy the upper stratosphere of the automotive world already

In the "massmarket" lower luxury class that is somewhat true, Mercedes rules. But the brand cant compete with RR or Bentley when it comes to the "upper stratosphere". Where Mercedes ends, RR only starts. Next to a Phantom a full-spec S600 looks like a VW Golf next to a Jaguar - pretty poor.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 10):

Exactly. Mercedes launched Maybach because they had an inferiority complex after VW snapped Bentley and RR was taken by BMW. For once Mercedes failed miserably. To blame a considerable part of its buyers, mainly rappers, oligarchs or sheikhs for its failure is not quite fair, as the Maybach itself had no true class apart from using expensive materials, from the beginning it looked like a blown up bling-bling 90s S-class.


User currently offlinekric777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2148 times:
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Problem One was that The Maybach of our generation was essentially just a gussied-up version of the S-Class Mercedes.....and a thinly-disguised one at that. Problem Two was that who currently alive even remembered the "Maybach" name? Insofar as so many car companies trade on brand equity -- how much brand equity was generated by a name few people had ever heard of? It would be like Audi trying to bring back the "Auto Union" name. Or Cadillac bring back the LaSalle nameplate. Daimler-Benz would have been better off developing an updated version of the 600 "Grosser" limousine which was, in it's day. simply the most amazing, complex, high-tech, luxurious, bad-ass rig of its time. The Maybach didn't really bring anything special to the party in its price range. It was a just a stretched S-class with more gingerbread.

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15719 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2144 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 3):
Not they aren't, what they are planning is multiple versions of the S Class, not a model above the S class.

Some would say that's exactly what the Maybach was. I've seen it referred to in multiple places as the "Mercedes Maybach." For what it's worth, I've read both the S-Class variant and the separate model stories but I don't know which is the latest.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 9):
if anything the Maybach dragged the marque down with its unfortunate connections to rappers, oligarchs and sheikhs with far more money than class.

That sort of thing has not had a negative effect on any other brands.



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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8406 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

A lot of people just hope Mercedes-Benz comes back someday. It's been gone since about 1994. Today's M-B are half the price (and half the quality) of traditional Mercedes-Benz cars.

User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7133 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2126 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 13):

Some would say that's exactly what the Maybach was.

Which is what it was originally designed to be, I'm sure if Mercedes had started with a clean sheet, it wouldn't have looked like a fat S class.


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9164 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

Quoting Flighty (Reply 14):
t's been gone since about 1994. Today's M-B are half the price (and half the quality) of traditional Mercedes-Benz cars.

Half the price? They cost oin € at least as much as they cost in DM back in 1994 and that is about double.



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

Quoting Flighty (Reply 14):
A lot of people just hope Mercedes-Benz comes back someday. It's been gone since about 1994. Today's M-B are half the price (and half the quality) of traditional Mercedes-Benz cars.

Are you joking??? The quality maybe be a bit lower than in 1994 (most owners I know are quite happy, but the 2010 Merc of a friend of mine recently spend 5 months in the dealership, so faulty is it), the prices surely went up like a rocket and have never shrunk compared to the competition.


User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2793 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1970 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 16):

Looks like a typo, probably meant double the price and half the quality.


User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8406 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 16):

IIRC E- class and S-class price points in dollars haven't moved since thte early 90s. The e- class was $55000 then and is today. Especially when you consider power, size etc. After inflation.... $55000 today isn't what it was in 1993. It is half. (Toyota Camry did the same thing).

Go to a car show sometime... Mercedes feel like a Toyota now. And even Toyota don't feel as good as real Toyotas used to.


User currently offlinemirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1882 times:
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