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CNN Vs BBC Vs Al-Jazeera Vs Russia Today?  
User currently offlineAA7295 From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 622 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9794 times:

I spend a lot of time watching and reading the news. I definitely have my opinions on news networks and was wondering which network you think is the best network?

I personally prefer CNN and BBC. CNN generally breaks the stories first although sometimes there are factual errors. BBC, generally good news, although scope is sometimes limited (the have BY FAR the best news app for iOS), Al Jazeera.... I still find their articles riddled with anti-US sentiment... for that reason I cannot take them serious. Russia Today.... I actually enjoy their articles... they provoke questions from articles that would be too politically INCORRECT for CNN and BBC.

Note: I only watch CNN International not the US edition.

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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7851 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9763 times:

Al-Jazeera is often inaccurate. I can't trust them.

Quoting AA7295 (Thread starter):
Note: I only watch CNN International not the US edition.

CNN USA is left-leaning and sometimes inaccurate as well. I've ran into a few snafus with CNN before, especially on its business reporting.

Russia Today has some interesting articles.

BBC has a very limited scope indeed. Unless I'm looking for Euro news, I rarely ever look at BBC.

*I get my news primarily from JapanToday, Asahi Shimbun, and the Associated Press applications.



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3006 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9750 times:

CNN USA is like all American media: full of fluff and generally garbage. Sad part is that it is the best US news channel.

CNN International and the BBC are great.

Al Jazeera is excellent too; I'm a big fan.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):

Al-Jazeera is often inaccurate. I can't trust them.

Do you have examples of said inaccuracies?



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User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9687 times:

I've always loved the BBC most - in particular BBC World News. Their journalism is top-notch, they have extensive worldwide coverage, lots of good journalists, plenty of good 'on the side' programs (such as Our World which i've learned a massive amount from over the last couple of years) and their website is great (though the videos are usually rather short or non-existent). Oh and they have by far the best sounding intro tune. http://bit.ly/11yRf0r Unfortunately one can't pick up a live stream or past programs from their website which, nowadays, is rather pathetic.

Al-Jazeera English is a very close second for me. Unlike the other channels, AJE shows what is actually going on in the world, not just what happens to be making news in the west. Their journalism is very good, hardly surprising as they seem to cherry pick the best from around the globe (one of their main presenters, Elizabeth Puranam, used to be a reporter for TV3 here in New Zealand), they aren't afraid to ask difficult questions. I also admire how balanced they manage to be, particularly on issues such as Israel/Palestine where one would think they would show a heavy bias. Their secondary programming is always interesting, in particular I enjoy Empire (roundtable of professors/journalists/generic experts discussing foreign policy), The Cafe (same as empire but with common-folk discussing local issues/news) and Al Jazeera World (documentaries). Unfortunately their website is still sub-standard, despite and significant update three weeks ago, and they don't seem to ever criticise Qatar (though plenty of guests on Empire do so).

Nothing wrong with CNN International, however I don't think it is as good as BBC, AJE or FR24.

I actually really dislike Russia Today.... all their international reporting is always geared towards blaming the US or are just full of anti-US sentiment/rhetoric. On the other hand, their opinion pieces are often an interesting read - even if one doesn't agree with them. Also they seem to be good at reporting on much smaller news stories that the other large international networks miss (or don't bother with).



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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2450 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9673 times:

I think the BBC World News channel is broadcasting too many other things than news. Often when I watch BBC News, it is some kind of documentary which can be quite interesting, but there are not enough news on the channel.

I generally prefer BBC and CNN though, but sometimes I find Russia Today interesting to watch just to see how the Russians like to spin news stories. I also often wonder where they find the people they interview from Western countries that tend to have a different opinion regarding international matters than the general opinion in the Western world.

I don't watch Al-Jazeera very much.

[Edited 2013-04-23 08:22:42]

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27245 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9674 times:

The BBC still rules in terms of accurate and unbiased journalism. They still produce the best reports IMHO. I also watch Sky News alot which usually are the best for breaking news. I like their evening late night paper reviews also.

CNN I never watch these days unless there is nothing else. I used to watch them a lot more but they became boring.

Al Jazeera used to be good but then lost their way .

Russia Today HD is quite good . I watch it maybe twice a week . They cover stories that other networks don't.


User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1905 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9650 times:

Quoting AA7295 (Thread starter):
Al Jazeera.... I still find their articles riddled with anti-US sentiment... for that reason I cannot take them serious. Russia Today.... I actually enjoy their articles... they provoke questions from articles that would be too politically INCORRECT for CNN and BBC.

I find RT to be the most anti-US of all the mainstream news sources. They have really interesting exposés, but their reporting is just so in-your-face with anti-Americanism. The American reporters for them are the most guilty of it too.

Al Jezeera isn't my go-to, but I've never had a reason to not trust their reporting.

Quoting zkojq (Reply 3):
Unfortunately one can't pick up a live stream...from their website which, nowadays, is rather pathetic.

Is this not a live stream? http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldserviceradio



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6843 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9599 times:

Quoting zkojq (Reply 3):
Nothing wrong with CNN International, however I don't think it is as good as BBC, AJE or FR24.

I wondered if our new channel would get a mention.

To be honest I can watch English language programs without trouble and sometimes do during world events (Arab Spring comes to mind) but usually I'd rather watch French language ones, and mostly Euronews, because it's both geared to France but talking about Europe and world news at the same time, I like that balance.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9564 times:

CNN today unfortunately isnt the CNN of twenty years ago.

Their product has gone downhill and they know it. Bringing Zucker on and letting him change it into another MSNBC isnt boding well for the future of that network.



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3006 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9550 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 7):

Forgot to mention FR24 in my post. Excellent channel.



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7246 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9463 times:

If I want to watch the news, debates, politics or a live big news event I usually go with CNN. Some of their anchors are pretty good and they have the best graphics. Yes media is so bad that having good graphics means something. If its not CNN then it is Fox. The only time I really have the news on a lot is when a big thing is going on. Online I use a bunch of different sites. CNN, Fox, BBC, Local Papers etc.. Even just going on facebook or here on Anet is a news source. Anet has been the first place I became of a big news story a countless amount of times.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 6):
I find RT to be the most anti-US of all the mainstream news sources. They have really interesting exposés, but their reporting is just so in-your-face with anti-Americanism. The American reporters for them are the most guilty of it too.


Oh, big time. They just hate the U.S. however at 1-3am it is interesting to watching some live T.V. coming from Russia.



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User currently offlinemham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3693 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9437 times:

I don't watch any of them. I was reading today how much of the Arab world distrusts Al Jazeera for reporting the Qatar view of things, CNN has been untrustworthy for years and the BBC really let me down several times, I think around the time of the Libyan air campaign. I have never seen Russia Today but sometimes watch CCTV for a Chinese view of things.
For anti-American bias, Canada's CBC ranks near the top.


User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1905 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9429 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 10):
however at 1-3am it is interesting to watching some live T.V. coming from Russia.

Agreed, especially the mini-documentaries.

Quoting flymia (Reply 10):
Even just going on facebook or here on Anet is a news source. Anet has been the first place I became of a big news story a countless amount of times.

  

Quoting mham001 (Reply 11):
For anti-American bias, Canada's CBC ranks near the top.

How do you figure? The CBC is blatantly anti-Conservative, but I've never seen a hint of anti-Americanism from them (not that I regularly read/watch the CBC though).



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User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 492 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9420 times:

When it comes to mobile news, I like to use Reuters, especially they're new app. When it comes to broadcast news I'll watch BBC or something.


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User currently offlinetu204 From Russia, joined Mar 2006, 1251 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9403 times:

I find the BBC to be the most neutral of them. CNN is a propaganda machine, more so than Russia Today. Haven't watched Al Jazeera in a while.


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40029 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9397 times:

So many news sources available and it's foolish for anyone to rely on any one source of news when they have choices.
No one news source is perfect but if you do your own research and verify what other news outlets are saying and eventually you'll get to the truth.

I like Russia Today because they'll cover stories not covered by the BBC or in the major news outlets in the US. I've found Al Jazeera to be a good source of news on some topics.
CNN is a disgrace but I'll watch them when they have interesting people on their panel and then read other news sources to hear the other side of a given issue. CNN and MSNBC has fallen to the level of FOX but is the left-wing equivalent. At least with FOX, you know it's bias where as CNN and MSNBC tries to pass of as impartial.

Quoting tu204 (Reply 14):
CNN is a propaganda machine
Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):
CNN today unfortunately isnt the CNN of twenty years ago.

  

The best left-wing news source in the US is NPR (National Public Radio).



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User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9395 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 6):
Is this not a live stream?

 
Radio? Never heard of it.      

Quoting Aesma (Reply 7):
both geared to France but talking about Europe and world news at the same time, I like that balance.

DW does the same for Germany and I enjoy watching it every once in awhile. For some reason, I never actually watch euronews, other than a few video clips online.

Quoting mham001 (Reply 11):
I was reading today how much of the Arab world distrusts Al Jazeera for reporting the Qatar view of things

Thats Al Jazeera Arabic - far from unbiased, but (sadly) far less biased than the state media that many arabs would otherwise be watching/hearing. We are discussing Al Jazeera English above which is very highly acclaimed . If you want a crackpot crazy arab channel, try Rupert Murdoch's Rotana or alternatively Al Arabiya.

Quoting mham001 (Reply 11):
sometimes watch CCTV for a Chinese view of things.

   They are sometimes interesting too. Unsurprisingly, they seem to have much greater access to the DPRK than any of the main western networks which usually means their content on such matters is worth watching. Also their anti-US rhetoric is much more subtle than that of RT.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):

So many news sources available and it's foolish for anyone to rely on any one source of news when they have choices.
No one news source is perfect but if you do your own research and verify what other news outlets are saying and eventually you'll get to the truth.

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[Edited 2013-04-23 20:45:33]


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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3006 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9377 times:

Quoting mham001 (Reply 11):
CCTV

You complain about biases and then proceed to watch the Chinese state-run Communist network?

Truly, the perceptions of people on what has a political spin are truly skewed.



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User currently offlineAA7295 From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 9346 times:

Oh come on.... CNN really isn't that bad.... they are just logical. I'm sorry but some of the things the "conservatives" say in America are so off the mark and down-right inappropriate... How CAN CNN make it sound neutral?

I agree with what you are saying about Russia Today about it being a bit anti-American. But they had some damn good stories and angles regarding the Boston bombers. What I liked was that they weren't afraid to "point to the pink elephant" and report it. Western networks would be too scared to be politically incorrect.

I have a friend who works for Al Jazeera English in Washington DC and from what she says... it is definitely not immune from the powers at be in Doha. So it may not be as anti-American as RT or as obvious.

CCTV - I don't consider a communist state-run news outlet news media.


User currently offlineU2380 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2010, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9315 times:

I'm not entirely sure about BBC world news but in my opinion BBC in the UK has a severe left wing bias. I still usually watch the BBC news however its probably just about the best of the local news around here.

I get most of my news online really, usually from quite a wide range of sources. I quite like to get an overview of the local perceptive as it can be wildly different to how the national news represents it.

[Edited 2013-04-24 02:50:14]

User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8429 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9225 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
CNN USA is left-leaning and sometimes inaccurate as well. I've ran into a few snafus with CNN before, especially on its business reporting.

Obviously you haven't seen MSNBC - they do news during the day and put in the "liberal" programs in the evening. But they do put both sides up during conversations (not debates). Michael Steele (former GOP National Chairman) is frequently there and presents a solid GOP point of view. Not necessarily a hard right position - more of a reasonable position. Maybe that is probably he was more successful than his successor.

CNN also has a long history of presenting both the right and left sides. Started big time with Crossfire, which was a battle of a show. They let both sides go for it during the campaign & election series in a very balanced manner. Other times the political side is pretty boring outside of the major issues.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):
CNN today unfortunately isn't the CNN of twenty years ago.

Some parts are gone (and people have died) and there have been changes in technology. I'm tired of their visual format - but then it has always been a dud for me. For breaking news they do have a lot of assets in place around the world and there are intelligent talking heads. I'd put them as the more reasonable 24 hour US news channel.


User currently offlineaflyingkiwi From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 515 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9218 times:

Quoting AA7295 (Reply 18):
Oh come on.... CNN really isn't that bad.... they are just logical. I'm sorry but some of the things the "conservatives" say in America are so off the mark and down-right inappropriate... How CAN CNN make it sound neutral?

Keep in mind that CNN international is quite a bit better than CNN USA which is quite left-leaning (not to the extremes as FOX & MSNBC though). Also I think you'd find that CNN doesn't really cover some of the more outrageous things liberals say.

As Superfly said above, I think the best option is to use a variety of news options both left & right. That's the only way to be as 'fair' as possible.


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7972 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 9204 times:

Quoting AA7295 (Reply 18):
Oh come on.... CNN really isn't that bad.... they are just logical.

They did a pretty horrid job reporting the Boston bombings. Though most media outlets (sadly) tend to do what they did, this case being especially atrocious



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7246 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 9195 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 12):
Agreed, especially the mini-documentaries.

Agreed. Ironically the day before the Marathon Bombing I watched one on Chechnya. Very interesting. But for any news which deals with America I usually can't stand to watch it.



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3006 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9170 times:

Quoting AA7295 (Reply 18):
Oh come on.... CNN really isn't that bad.... they are just logical. I'm sorry but some of the things the "conservatives" say in America are so off the mark and down-right inappropriate... How CAN CNN make it sound neutral?

This is exactly the case with outlets such as NPR. The second the tea partiers hear something they don't like it's the "liberal media''.

MSBC has a real slant; and I can't stand it.

NPR isn't 'left-wing', but since they don't feature O'Riley they are liberals.



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25 MD-90 : I've seen Russia Today clips on YouTube. Is it an actual news channel that you can get on cable?
26 EricR : Oh come on.... CNN really isn't that bad..... Even when you remove the political news and viewpoints, it is clear that the CNN network has gone down h
27 Post contains images andrej : Hey all, these are my subjective notes on major news outlets. CNN (US) is a joke, like their top competitors (be it FoxNews, or MSNBC). They gave up o
28 Vinniewinnie : France24 suffers from a massive french bias (to the point of being ridiculous) together with a lack of financial means. It's repetitive, their guests
29 mham001 : I know all that going in. Like I said, the Chinese view of things. Bias can be much more subtle. It does not need to be openly displayed, it can be m
30 EricR : But keep in mind that Dan Rather's viewpoints lead to his departure as anchor of the evening news.
31 mham001 : Irrelevant. He led an on-air vendetta based upon discredited information. The network allowed it. I really, really don't want to know the politics of
32 kingairta : I don't care who breaks the story first. Because chances are I won't here it for hours later anyways. I would much prefer getting the facts right ove
33 b787900 : I find BBC and CBC to be the most rational and informative of them all. CBC tends to report on a lot of important socioeconomic problem that exist in
34 EricR : I wouldn't call it irrelevant at all. The network made management changes after they discovered the inaccurate information. Had the network had an "a
35 Post contains links mham001 : Lifted from another thread. Several highly regarded news people who have come out and publicly admitted left wing bias in US media. “For what it’s
36 TIA : Exactly. And maybe things have changed the last couple of years, but when it first started out (I remember first getting it on cable in the US around
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