The above link is safe to click on, one of the featured videos on the home page is currently 'Barney & Miss Beazley's Spring Garden Tour'. I didn't get any further, so I don't know if that was indicative of the rest of the site or not.
Anyone here invited to the opening? I understand that President Obama, the First Lady, and all of our living former and ex-presidents will be in attendance.
flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6768 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2823 times:
Wow only took one post.
Anyway, I am watching. Always interesting seeing the other presidents talk about one which did not share party lines. For the most part I do think Clinton and Obama respect Bush for the sole reason of the job he held and what a difficult job it is. It is already happening though, Bush 43 legacy is getting better and will continue to be seen in a better light as the years go by.
Good speech by W.
[Edited 2013-04-25 09:12:26]
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 64 Reply 4, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2797 times:
Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 3): Well technically, since they are calling a pressure cooker with some fireworks in it a WMD, I'd venture to say we did find some there.
Anyone who wants to go down that route will also have to then justify the 'Mission Accomplished' speech given 10 years ago next week vs. the state of affairs in Iraq over the past decade. Especially since it took a later 'surge' and a subsequent president to clean things up in order to bring our troops home.
Sure, if you don't also count the hundreds of thousands of people killed, tortured and 4.5 million people in Iraq alone displaced from their homes and living as refugees as a direct result of his 'wars on terror'
I personally would like to see the man jailed for life.
But yet,Obama has carried over many of Bush's policies.
Immigration,Patriot Act,Gitmo,Bush taxes,War(s),how many times has Obama promised to end it?Most of these issues was on Obama 2008 opposition,blame Bush campaign.They are alive and well today.
So,does is it come down to whose a Republican and a Democrat issue? I wonder. Because Bill Clinton still has the welcome mat with gays after he wrote or endorsed DADT and DOMA. Double standard?
Bush is not the worse after what Obama has done.And now,if one wishes, should blame Obama who has been given a free ride with the media. And I find it very hard to believe that ultra liberals can police themselves and after media's torture of Bush of those SAME issues in which Obama carried over.Some was warranted,some not,like Katrina.
Congrats to the opening of the Bush library.And I do thank Obama for joining in the opening ceremonies which makes this nation great.And yes,I would say congrats to Obama when he opens his.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 11419 posts, RR: 24 Reply 12, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2594 times:
Quoting PSA53 (Reply 10): But yet,Obama has carried over many of Bush's policies.
Immigration,Patriot Act,Gitmo,Bush taxes,War(s),how many times has Obama promised to end it?
It's fair to say neither GWB or BHO got all of what they wanted through Congress, but clearly there are things Obama would change if he could get them through Congress, many of them are things you've listed, and all are things started by GWB.
PS: You forgot to credit Bush for creating TSA and DHS.
Quoting PSA53 (Reply 10): Bush is not the worse after what Obama has done
Do you mean continuing the Bush bailouts perchance? Otherwise, what are you on about? ACA? Time will tell on that one, and if that's the worst thing he did, it's minor compared to the trillions of dollars and thousands of lives GWB wasted in Iraq.
Quoting PSA53 (Reply 10): And now,if one wishes, should blame Obama who has been given a free ride with the media.
Free ride? Did you see the Benghazi coverage? Compared to that, GWB got a free ride on Iraq, given the magnitude of the actual issues.
mke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2376 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2576 times:
Quoting flymia (Reply 2): Always interesting seeing the other presidents talk about one which did not share party lines.
Agreed. It was nice to see them put politics aside for once and just show some respect/admiration for their fellow "fraternity" member. And it made for quite a nice photo op - not too often you get all the living US Presidents together in one spot.
Quoting kiwirob (Reply 11): See I was right he does have reading difficulties, one ready does wonder if he's ever been inside a library?
"There was a time in my life when I wasn't likely to be found at a library, much less found one," Bush quipped, before thanking his predecessors and successor for the "kind words" and the "examples you set."
ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12675 posts, RR: 13 Reply 17, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2448 times:
Far too many, including myself, here and elsewhere have given plenty of criticism of GWB for many years. I am not going to add more to this discussion here. Suffice to say, today's dedication was a happy fest, with only minor touching of areas of legitimate critical commentary.
At the heart of the Presidential Libraries are the documents and other records of their respective Administrations, which are owned by the public and will be accessible to the public. Far too many records are inaccessible for anywhere from a few years to forever as involve legitimate security and personal privacy needs but far too many for political reasons. I do hope investigative reporters, journalists, historians will search thoroughly the GWB Library records to get more information as to his decisions and policies, the truth behind them, who he met with, their influences.
I would love future Presidential records be in a single place, where all former President or their families cannot control records to put the best spin on them.
cptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2862 posts, RR: 13 Reply 18, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2445 times:
Quoiting alberchico (Rep 6): "All future limos from Bush onward will be destroyed by the Secret Service to protect their classified armor technology." Maybe so...wouldn't argue.
But for those even remotely interested, when I was at Ford Styling I was privey to a few operations that we were envolved in with a pair of presidential Lincolns that envolved armour "technology". The door's exterior sheet metal was not. A supplier shipped treated steel slabs of (maybe 1/2', maybe 3/4", maybe a bit thicker...don't remember) rolled to a slight crown, and our template (pattern) makers and metal workers surfaced these slabs to precisely replicate the styling countours of the Lincoln body side. The interior door sheet metal stampings were of course reman'd w/ upgraded structure thickness via more plate and these pieces were welded together as an assembly. After class-A metal finishing and paint, they looked exactly like the original production parts (except, of course, they were dimensionally different for the stretch wheelbase and modified lock and hinge pillars plus you needed a team of four or so big men to handle each for install and adjust).
I do not know about the fenders and rear quarter panels. I am thinking the exterior pieces may have been production sheet metal with serious internal reinfs, but don't remember. But, anyhoo, that was the armor "technology" back then. All best...jack
Aeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 689 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2371 times:
i hadn't realized the amount of world dignitaries in attendence.
Anyway , I was not particularly a fan of his, but he is no longer in office and this is an occasion afforded each former President. Let him have his day and future whatever it may bring. He loved his country and was elected to two terms.
25 alberchico: Here's an interesting article: http://www.boston.com/cars/news/arti...6/cadillac_testing_new_obama_limo/ I found this quote fascinating: "In the same
26 Aesma: Why are they all looking down ? And why a bullet proof glass only on the side ?
27 AeroWesty: I didn't see the whole ceremony, but it looks like some type of prayer or moment of silence going on, since the audience have their heads bowed as we
28 ipodguy7: I am honored to be a student at SMU where the new library is, and was honored to go to the opening. Politics aside, it was an incredible experience an
29 seb146: Unlike the "patriots" at FOX and AM radio and tea people who assure the American people that Obama and Clinton both hate America. BTW, the deficit di
30 na: His librarian is known to have been briefed to follow this link: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...url=node%3D4&field-keywords=cowboy [/quot
31 BMI727: I hope your grandma got you a gold Trans Am. Damn right. It wasn't being paid for out of Jimmy Carter's bank accounts. He also presided over a countr
32 seb146: I know that's what people think about Bush II but what about Carter? What does a president have to do with what private corporations do? What does a
33 sw733: I trust you've spoken to the many, many presidential scholars, in addition to your own research on each and every president and his policies and acti
34 Revelation: Museum curators are historians, not security professionals. In the security realm, if there's no need to trust someone, why would you do it? Of cours
35 aloges: And yet, he made some of the worst policy decisions in the last decades. Intelligence is worth nothing if you're unwilling to question your own concl
36 na: So what, the world of intelligent men making horrendous mistakes. ... and if you trust warmongering advisors like Rumsney.
37 Darksnowynight: Hmmmmmm... Well, I read the article (which, let's be honest, is really an editorial at best), and I didn't see anything there that would support this
38 BMI727: He's the old fashioned, kindly but slightly senile guy who tells stories on his porch, which he's much better at than governing. Jimmy does fine buil
39 AeroWesty: So even though Carter blundered, it was actually a good thing, because it caused us to get our act together, if I'm reading what you wrote correctly.
40 BMI727: In a roundabout way, yes. The military got their act together and reorganized and the country got their act together and elected Ronald Reagan. But i
41 AeroWesty: Well remember, I lived through that era, and it was somewhat different than that. In 1976 a Republican was simply unelectable, no matter how much we
42 rfields5421: Carter's biggest mistake was thinking he could come to Washington, sweep out the career politicians and tell the Democrats in Congress how to vote on
43 AeroWesty: I looked this up, because I remembered it a bit differently. Carter did sweep into Washington "like a prick" in O'Neill's words, but eventually they
44 seb146: Funny how people forget they were all released as Reagan was being sworn in.... Because his family does not have money. Carter is a diplomat. Not a b
45 BMI727: After one bungled rescue attempt, over a year in captivity, and a lost election. Great job, Jimmy! Oh yeah, Carter makes tons on Habitat for Humanity
46 Revelation: Indeed such promises were what he campaigned on. The country was sick of the cronyism of Tricky Dickie's regime. As you point out, though, he didn't
47 seb146: So he tried and he is the worst ever? Why is Bush II so great when he did nothing to capture bin Laden? In fact, his daddy had the bin Laden family f
48 BMI727: That's exactly what you can blame Carter for. The military fell into a state of disrepair after Vietnam and Carter did nothing about it, and the fail
49 Revelation: It's a perception that's just not borne out in reality. For instance: You can see the down-tick in Tricky Dickie's era being reversed in Carter's era