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Benghazi Coverup Hearings-Starts Today  
User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

It looks like the "dirt" they tried to sweep under the rug is about to come out from under the rug.......starting today.

Intimidating the witnesses that can make you look bad may have worked until now, but it's quit working now; the people who know the truth are now ready to testify; many people think that after these people testify, there will be others who will find the courage to do so; we're about to find out.

Needless to say, this link leads to a story with people who are NOT Obama supporters, so as always happens, we will now hear the usual Obama supporters saying that "all these people are liars", "they don't know what they're talking about", etc., etc. etc. Moreover, I'm guessing they will be saying all those things BEFORE they even hear ONE witness testify. That's my obligatory opinion.

This situation reminds a lot of people of "events" right after Watergate; it does have similarities, but also has ONE HUGE "dis-similarity"..........no one DIED in Watergate; a bunch of people LIED, and many of them went to prison because they lied; and every liberal democrat in this country was dancing in the street, shouting, "impeach Nixon"....he lied ! Yeah, he lied, and he got caught, thanks to the monumental stupidity of a bunch of people; and we ALL know where it got him;

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/huc...7/id/503192?s=al&promo_code=1367B-

Charley


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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5676 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2935 times:

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):

Well you seem to already know so there is apparently no need for hearings or anything to "start"! It's done! You have everything you need and the guilty are ready to be convicted! So I don't know you are on about, nothing to see hear, move along.

Sigh

Tugg



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1876 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

Somebody is going to have to explain to me why this would result in the impeachment of a President? People in the President's administration clearly screwed up which resulted in a real tragedy, and those people should be dealt with harshly (nothing less than being fired and never working for the government again)...but how does this prove that he has "lost his right to govern"?

Second, why does anybody listen to anything Mike Huckabee has to say? I've listened to his show a couple times online, and the guy is totally out to lunch these days. There are so many better Republicans to get an opinion from, yet they choose Huckabee...

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):
Yeah, he lied, and he got caught, thanks to the monumental stupidity of a bunch of people; and we ALL know where it got him;

Exactly. They were able to prove that there was wrong-doing, and it was followed by consequences that resulted in Nixon's resignation. Why do you insist on claiming that Obama is guilty before the hearing has taken place? Or does "innocent until proven guilty" not apply when you don't like the guy?

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):
http://www.newsmax.com

You realize the reputation Newsmax has for being wildly biased, right? I went to Google News and found this same story from dozens of moderate sources. Literally took me 20 seconds.

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):
Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein

Entirely off-topic, but...the quote is actually for the definition of 'insanity', not 'stupidity'. Just a head's up for the sake of accuracy.



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11721 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2922 times:

How come when American diplomats and American civilians were killed by foreign forces overseas, there were no hearing and no rumblings of the ineptitude of the commander in chief? Why were there no investigations to prop up the fact that the previous commander in chief was a liar?


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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11721 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 2):
how does this prove that he has "lost his right to govern"?

Because a small and vocal minority actually believe they are in the majority and they are starting from the point of "Obama must leave office at all cost." They are not looking for a reason AND THEN trying to get him kicked out. Like lying about WMDs or bypassing FISA courts or anything like that. They put out an opinion and build a case around their opinion.

Bush II had the biggest expansion of government ever. No one but no one on the far right said a word. They never stood up and DEMANDED Americans take up arms against the government. Oh, no. That would be disrespectful to the office!

I would love to see what they think about the deficit when the cost of war is added to it. Remember: Bush II kept all that spending off the books. Obama added it to the books.



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3387 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2908 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 2):
Somebody is going to have to explain to me why this would result in the impeachment of a President? People in the President's administration clearly screwed up which resulted in a real tragedy, and those people should be dealt with harshly (nothing less than being fired and never working for the government again)...but how does this prove that he has "lost his right to govern"?

Because there is a double standard that favors Republicans. Remember they went after Clinton for lying about an affair which hardly took away his credibility to govern.

Now the same family values party just elected in South Carolina a man who left his wife and family for a Argentinean woman and has really shown no remorse.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21693 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2907 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 2):
Second, why does anybody listen to anything Mike Huckabee has to say?

Mike Huckabee's only area of expertise these days is in lecturing about his own morality. I'd put little stock in anything else he talks about.

-Mir



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7931 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):

You seem to have made up your mind before the fact, that is hardly being honest. I hope we get to the bottom of this once and for all and the truth comes out... whether that favors the President or not.

Honestly, I predict that no matter what the outcome, the President will still receive blame. Anything short of "he lied and committed treason" will just be dismissed as leftist lies. I hope I am wrong

Benghazi is the situation that completely turned me off the GOP. From day 1 all the way to today, right now, I'm NOT saying that the President is free of guilt, but I was absolutely disgusted at how the GOP immediately pinned the worst of blame on the President* and kept jumping from theory to theory... the details didn't matter, just fill in the blanks until you have a cover up and the President lying and intentionally getting people killed.

As they kept dragging it on and on and coming up with new ways to pin it on the President, I have taken the GOP less and less seriously. I don't believe for a second that most of the politicians are trying to get to the bottom of it for the 4 killed Americans's sake, they just want to disgrace the President


*And yes, I realize "the buck stops here" but still, there is only so much you can pin on the CiC.

Edit: I'll add one last thing: I absolutely think the press would be harder on the President if he was a Republican. That's a issue to take up with the media, though, that shouldn't change one's thoughts on whether there was really a cover up or not

[Edited 2013-05-07 21:43:04]


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User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

Quoting tugger (Reply 1):
Well you seem to already know so there is apparently no need for hearings or anything to "start"! It's done! You have everything you need and the guilty are ready to be convicted! So I don't know you are on about, nothing to see hear, move along.

I think if you read what you just wrote you'll see that it's completely unintelligible; (pretty hard to respond to something that's incomprehensible)

[quote=WestJet747,reply=2]Entirely off-topic, but...the quote is actually for the definition of 'insanity', not 'stupidity'. Just a head's up for the sake of accuracy.

Maybe the moderators will appoint you to "check out" ALL of the little "things" people put on their profiles for "accuracy"?
I'm sure you no doubt "assume" that you're the only one in North America that has ever read anything about Albert Einstein, but of course you're not.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 2):
You realize the reputation Newsmax has for being wildly biased, right? I went to Google News and found this same story from dozens of moderate sources. Literally took me 20 seconds.

Exactly like I predicted, only the second reply, and you're already attempting to "attack" the source ! ( no surprise there of course ); it's what liberals ALWAYS do......attack the source ! The whole problem with that rationale is of course, as long as the information reported is true, it doesn't make much difference where you hear it. I'm sure YOU get most of YOUR impeccable information from such "highly regarded" sources as the "Huffpo" and the "Dailey Kos" ? Speaking of which, how many items are you prepared to show us that were from NewsMax that are proven false ?

As I tend to be fairly conservative in my thinking most of the time, I really don't feel the need to waste much time reading news sources which are known to be totally unreliable 98% of the time.



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User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2857 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 2):
I went to Google News and found this same story from dozens of moderate sources. Literally took me 20 seconds.

I think you're getting a little mixed up now........one minute you're "questioning my source" as being "biased", then the next minute you're saying a "moderate" source says the exact same thing ? so why are are you complaining about my source if by your own admission it's accurate ? And another thing........why, ( in your mind ), is one news source "biased" and another news source is "moderate" when they are BOTH reporting the SAME thing ? And it took you you 20 seconds ? I think that probably has more to do with the quality (speed?) of you internet connection than it does with the "quality" of your news source.



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20746 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2842 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 11):
why, ( in your mind ), is one news source "biased" and another news source is "moderate" when they are BOTH reporting the SAME thing ?

The difference is, the Newsmax article starts with the quote from Huckabee that the "scandal" will cost the president his term in office as the article's title, rather than presenting a well-rounded report on the situation.

Compare it to NPR's story on the same subject:

Congressional Hearings Put Renewed Focus On Benghazi Attack

Huge difference.



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User currently offlinejohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2594 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

.....and crickets chirp except for the Newsmax/WorldNetDaily/Drudge Report/Free Republic crowd in a big internet masturbatory frenzy.

User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 12):
Compare it to NPR's story on the same subject:

Oh my ! Next you'll be suggesting I should be reading "move on.org" right ? WRONG ! Ditto NPR;

I have one guy who thinks anything I say is BS, that everything the GOP says, does, or even thinks, is BS, but yet HE is "wounded" because I think HE is "liberal".........then YOU think I should pay attention to that well known, always middle of the road, NPR ! That's almost as funny as Congressperson "Fudge's" assessment of Jesse Jackson, JR.

Tell you what I AM going to do..........(I'll be getting my new hearing aids in the next day or two).......I'm going to turn the tube on and listen to the hearings;

What I'm NOT going to do is: waste any more time arguing back and forth about who thinks what about Obama; maybe this will happen, or maybe that will happen, but in the meantime, I'll post what I think MIGHT illustrate some of the nonsense going on, and you can all knock yourselves out posting anything you want to, whether it makes any sense or not. I have other fish to fry, so I'm going to start frying them first thing in the AM.



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2780 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 12):
I have one guy who thinks anything I say is BS, that everything the GOP says, does, or even thinks, is BS,

That guy is right then, everyone knows that nowadays GOP is full of BS just like all these pathetic conspiracy theories are.

I think people should just forget the Benghazi attack, too bad for those who died but I don't see how this event was that significant when way bigger amounts of people die in terrorists attacks all the time in countries ruined by US forces, such as Iraq.



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13141 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2768 times:

I won't deny serious mistakes were made as to dealing with the attacks on the American consulate in Benghazi, but what we will see today is nothing but a one-sided witch hunt by Republicans who hate the President and his Democratic party administration.
Of course looking back, we could have reacted differently to the deadly attack, but there are distance, communications and legal limits on what could have been done. You cannot have 100's of our special military forces go in minutes after the first attack in a foreign country, we don't have such forces, you couldn't bring them in fast enough and you might just trigger a war. There was no doubt this attack was well coordinated by al-Queda related groups, and it was difficult to forsee how severe it would be.


User currently onlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12639 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2766 times:
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Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):

Wait, I though this congressional hearing was to establish the facts? Has anyone told them the result is already known?

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 2):
Somebody is going to have to explain to me why this would result in the impeachment of a President?

Because it's the next big hope for the Obama-haters.   

Quoting Geezer (Reply 12):
I have one guy who thinks anything I say is BS, that everything the GOP says, does, or even thinks, is BS

It's not like it's just the one.   



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4673 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2733 times:

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):
we will now hear the usual Obama supporters saying that "all these people are liars",

This pretty much sums up why this whole Benghazi thing is nothing but Political BS. A bunch of old Geezers are just trying to make political gains.


Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):
Moreover, I'm guessing they will be saying all those things BEFORE they even hear ONE witness testify. That's my obligatory opinion.

And what Pray, Tell , are you doing?

Quoting Geezer (Reply 12):
What I'm NOT going to do is: waste any more time arguing back and forth about who thinks what about Obama;

Why do you keep bringing up Obama in a hearing on what happened at much lower levels? I think you are the one with preformed opinions and they are driven by piss poor fake news organizations .



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User currently offlinewindy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2739 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2725 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 14):
Of course looking back, we could have reacted differently to the deadly attack, but there are distance, communications and legal limits on what could have been done. You cannot have 100's of our special military forces go in minutes after the first attack in a foreign country, we don't have such forces, you couldn't bring them in fast enough and you might just trigger a war

Did we (NATO) not just do that when we helped bring down the legal government of that country? What a joke. A rapid response team was in country and was told to stand down and not board a C-130 bound for Benghazi. Fast jets that had months before been bombing Qaddafis forces had been a short hop away in Italy and aboard a carrier in the Med. The CIA ex Seals that had been killed in the attack could of called in the airstrike with precision but they also had been told to stand down.



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4673 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

Quoting windy95 (Reply 17):
What a joke. A rapid response team was in country and was told to stand down and not board a C-130 bound for Benghazi.

Seriously???? You are just showing plain ignorance. You are also dishonoring those you died. For your homework lesson go look up the deceased and where they were at 8:00 that night.



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User currently offlinewindy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2739 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

Quoting casinterest (Reply 18):
Seriously???? You are just showing plain ignorance.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/06/politi...er/index.html?sr=sharebar_facebook

As far as dishonoring those who died it is O'Bummer and those that defend his inaction in this case that are doing that.



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User currently offlineCalebWilliams From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2694 times:

This just in: The GOP has only two planks in their current platform: Benghazi and Obamacare.

Maybe they can get elected in 2016 with these two issues, but probably not.




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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4673 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

Quoting windy95 (Reply 19):
Quoting casinterest (Reply 18):
Seriously???? You are just showing plain ignorance.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/06/politi...ebook

Thanks for showing your ignorance. Please quote from that document........>
I will be waiting,

Quoting windy95 (Reply 19):
As far as dishonoring those who died it is O'Bummer and those that defend his inaction in this case that are doing that.

Not only ignorance but just politicking disrespect and hatred.



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11721 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 12):
Oh my ! Next you'll be suggesting I should be reading "move on.org" right ?

So, as with the rest of the right-wing media, you find sources to fit your opinions instead of finding sources that fit the facts.

What does it matter anyway? You (and half of the right-wing) have tried, convicted and impeached Obama for everything from Benghazi to his religion to how he holds his fork. You far right wingers will do anything to make Obama look bad. Up to and including outright lies. You on the far right care more about making Obama and Democrats look bad than actually balancing the budget or growing the economy or doing anything useful for the American people. That is why people are so turned off by the media and by elected officials. That is why the rest of the world does not take us seriously.



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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4076 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2662 times:
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Quoting Geezer (Reply 12):
Next you'll be suggesting I should be reading "move on.org" right ?

Any news source that accurately predicted the day before the elections that Romney would lose will do. At least you'll know they're not in the business of manufacturing their own facts.

Quoting CalebWilliams (Reply 20):
Maybe they can get elected in 2016 with these two issues, but probably not.

I think they've already conceded that Hilary will run and win (not to worry, they'll find something to impeach her over). In the meantime, every GOP member is focusing on winning their own primaries where, it should be clear by now, only geezers vote and moderation wins you no office.



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User currently offlinehelvknight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2688 times:

Much of what is written about Benghazi really can be summmed up with a simple graphic:



25 AeroWesty : Fox News is delivering the message hard this morning. Everyone else is covering the Amanda Berry homecoming and general news, but Fox is Benghazi, Ben
26 wingman : Repubs, suddenly concerned about dead diplos and the deficit only when a Dem walks into the picture. It's no wonder this party is Dead White Guys Walk
27 Post contains links helvknight : Obviously Fox is working hard on Brand Awareness. https://soundcloud.com/mike-in-raleigh/right-wing-troll-notification[Edited 2013-05-08 08:38:34]
28 Ken777 : Well, we did have Dr. RIce talking the company line before the SecState nomination. EXACTLY like WMDs in Iraq - a different Dr. Rice. Both black wome
29 Post contains images WestJet747 : I'm trying to figure out why my post was deleted because of "Reference Post Deleted" when the two posts I referenced are still there Anyway, I'll move
30 Post contains images AeroWesty : This is hilarious. The anchor for Fox's coverage of the hearings just said they were going to a commercial break as it was a good time "due to the Dem
31 tugger : What the heck are you on about? I have no idea if you quoted me intending to respond, meant to quote me at all, or mixed me in accidentally. Remember
32 AeroWesty : Keeping on that theme ... Fox has just brought Oliver North in from the cold to interpret the testimony so far today for us all.
33 tugger : If it weren't just sooo blatant..... Maybe they will bring on Howard Dean but they might mix it up and have Paula Dean instead to keep things balance
34 Post contains links Dreadnought : Hardly a mystery. The Dems are hoping to filibuster the entire proceeding as best they can - they have absolutely no interest in exposing the facts.
35 casinterest : It was never "Explained Away" . This is another example of a lie perpetuated by the ignorant watchers of the Fake news entertainment channel. .
36 GDB : Hell of a bit quicker than the 9/11 commission, which Bush fought hard to prevent ever being formed. I don't expect honest answers from the bitter, so
37 Dreadnought : I call BS. For 2 weeks they tried to say it was not an organized terrorist attack - that it was simply a protest that got a bit carried away over som
38 casinterest : I'll double down on your BS The president called it an attack on September 12. The only thing Fake news Tinfoil guru's care about is that he didn't c
39 Post contains images DeltaMD90 : Sorry Dread, I'm gonna have to disagree. From the very first second of this attack it was pinned against the President in the very worst way, and as
40 Post contains images AeroWesty : The Dems were allowed the same amount of time as the Repubs. It would have helped if you'd been watching the same coverage before being critical.
41 DeltaMD90 : I wrote of this earlier, where did the President say that terrorism wasn't still a problem? The only place I heard this was from the right... I saw i
42 GDB : It's not as if the general situation on the ground in Libya was fast changing, chaotic, with several all quite possible motives behind the attack....
43 DeltaMD90 : So true. If the GOP was bringing all this up to analyze the way we handle this situation and prevent this from happening again (and in honor of those
44 Post contains images tugger : I keep wondering when the Republican's will learn this. I hope they do because they only damage themselves and the party when they try to make EVERYT
45 Mir : Except that he also said the team wasn't going to be going to the annex anyway, but rather to the airport to secure it in order to evacuate people. I
46 DeltaMD90 : Probably didn't help that so many people were foaming at the mouth and demanding to know every tiny detail right when it hit the fan... just like wit
47 Post contains images aaron747 : Seriously. How about starting with the bloat in the intelligence agencies and the cat-and-mouse game they play with the State Department on need-to-k
48 tugger : But what use is that? How will that lead to being able to blame the President and kick him out of office? Sadly what you offer as actual useable resu
49 Post contains links Ken777 : Still living with your head in the sand? Did you miss the CNN story about the segregated school proms in good old backwater Georgia? Here's the link:
50 Geezer : And this surprises you ? When have you ever known the liberal news media to say ANYTHING that might possibly make Obama look bad ?
51 DeltaMD90 : You know, every single media outlet that's not Fox News isn't the liberal media. There is definitely a lot of liberal bias out there but thinking tha
52 ltbewr : Another major problem with figuring out what happened in Benghazi is that many possible answers cannot be given due to breaching necessary security fa
53 AeroWesty : Since you scoffed at the suggestion of reading the article from NPR I gave the link for yesterday, how would you know if you don't watch or read what
54 Ken777 : We tried that after 9/11. IIRC we have some Super Duper Overall Intelligence Department now that is supposed to co-ordinate EVERYTHING. Who really be
55 seb146 : It goes WAAAAAAAAY beyond that. In order for the far-right wing to be silenced, Obama must be removed from office completely. At all cost. That is th
56 Post contains links AeroWesty : And now from the Senate side of things: Top Republican ‘Fairly Satisfied’ With White House’s Account Of Benghazi
57 seb146 : Add to that the point that the right claims funding was cut for security. It is the House who appropriates spending. The right has been in control of
58 AeroWesty : While I was looking at the timeline on the attack again, a question came up I don't think I've ever seen answered. The first attack was against the fo
59 GDB : This happened on 9/11, remember how in the chaos of the day, a Delta flight was listed as possibly under hostile control? This when the FAA and USAF
60 Ken777 : Are you off your meds? Ever hear of Rush, Cruz, etc. The Conservatives have far more mouths flapping than the liverals ever had. Standing in the midd
61 Post contains links AeroWesty : I honestly don't think they care as long as it keeps the money rolling into PACs and campaigns, and the ballots keep getting cast. It's interesting t
62 DeltaMD90 : Sadly I don't think anything but the resignation of the President will quell them. Anything short of that is liberal bias, of course. I mean really,
63 seb146 : I just wonder why they think Joe Biden would be a much better president? The pessimistic side of me thinks they just want an old white guy in the Whi
64 CPH-R : On one hand it's that ever-present lust to get payback for Watergate. On the other hand, take a look at who's leading the hypothetical field for the
65 Post contains images johnboy :
66 Post contains links AeroWesty : Fingers are being pointed at the CIA and White House regarding the progression of edits to the final version of the story re the Benghazi attack. (ABC
67 wingman : Man, where were the Extreme Right Wingers when they found that Fedex tube in Baghdad? Probably at home bursting blood vessels cheering on Dick Cheney
68 bhill : "Liberalism is truly a mental disorder..." Right, then how about: Todd Akin: “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways of shutting that
69 AeroWesty : From today's press briefing at the White House, led by Jay Carney: • E-mails released by ABC News today were released to Congress last fall as part
70 Mir : The "spike the football" thing was a GOP creation, as a reaction to the implausible idea that a Democrat wouldn't be able to score successes against
71 Post contains links seb146 : The right wing is still insisting that "terrorist" and "extremist" are two completely different things and, because the CIA said one thing, Obama need
72 rightrudder : My take on it? If it would of been considered an Act of Terrorism instead of just an Islamic YouTube video. Peoples lives would of been saved. Who is
73 Post contains links seb146 : There are reports that the ambassador himself said they didn't need more security in Benghzai when more security was offered. http://www.nydailynews.
74 Ken777 : We tend to trivialize the YouTube video, but that video had resulted in Muslims becoming very offended and demonstrations/riots. Personally I believe
75 Post contains links Dreadnought : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Qx7Fmn4uE
76 luckyone : Speaking only for myself, but after the Kennedy family turning a personal vendetta into a 50-year "problem" with Cuba, the Pentagon Papers, Watergate
77 seb146 : Bypassing FISA courts? Warrantless wiretapping? The right will not admit what they are being shown. The right believes that the very first story is t
78 Post contains links Dreadnought : You forgot to mention we eat babies and use immigrants for skeet practice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk47saogI8o
79 luckyone : I said it was politics as usual. I didn't say it was right, or that either side's complains were completely unjustified. You cannot separate a politi
80 seb146 : Media is not about informing anymore. Since Reagan, media is about money. Ratings. The bigger scandal and louder outrage, the more ads they can sell.
81 Post contains links Dreadnought : Some Mea Culpas coming out... http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...-made-mistakes-but-without-malice/
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