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Osaka Mayor: GIs Should Use Prostitutes More  
User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12961 posts, RR: 25
Posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

It'll cut down on rapes!

Quote:

Toru Hashimoto, the young, brash mayor of Osaka who is co-leader of an emerging conservative political party, also said that U.S. troops currently based in southern Japan should patronize the local sex industry more to help reduce rapes and other assaults.

If this wasn't enough fuel for the fire:

Quote:

An outspoken nationalist mayor said the Japanese military's forced prostitution of Asian women before and during World War II was necessary to "maintain discipline" in the ranks and provide rest for soldiers who risked their lives in battle.

...

"To maintain discipline in the military, it must have been necessary at that time," Hashimoto said. "For soldiers who risked their lives in circumstances where bullets are flying around like rain and wind, if you want them to get some rest, a comfort women system was necessary. That's clear to anyone."

Talking about dancing on the third rail!

Ref: http://news.yahoo.com/japanese-mayor...aves-were-necessary-042050746.html


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2948 times:

Sometimes it really is easier being gay.


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User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9516 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2925 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 1):

of course some men do have an asian fetish...



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User currently offlineCalebWilliams From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2901 times:

Quoting stlgph (Reply 2):

I've heard that... lol



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User currently offlineRara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2168 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2844 times:

I feel for his wife, he must be unpleasant to live with.


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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7832 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 1):
Sometimes it really is easier being gay.

Don't you gay dudes use rent boys?


User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3047 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):
GIs Should Use Prostitutes More
Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):
It'll cut down on rapes!

Forced sex IS rape. None of the 200,000 sex slaves volunteered for the brothel gig. Mr. Mayor should know that.



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User currently offlineaaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2690 times:

Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):
"To maintain discipline in the military, it must have been necessary at that time," Hashimoto said. "For soldiers who risked their lives in circumstances where bullets are flying around like rain and wind, if you want them to get some rest, a comfort women system was necessary. That's clear to anyone."

Forcing women to provide sex services by the barrel of a gun is rape. That's clear to anyone. Ugh.

These attitudes are not uncommon here, unfortunately. The older generation of Japanese men in particular believe that sex is the most natural stress reliever and is not wrong if sought out for that purpose. A lot of women here accept this as a fact of life and thus look the other way with a "see no evil" attitude, even in their marriages. This is pretty different from the western idea of negotiating boundaries in a relationship.

Things have changed a lot the last 20-30 years due to the influence of Hollywood movies and American TV, but the "facts of life" cold logic still pervades a lot of people's thinking here. However logical it may be, it still belies the fact that people have feelings, and rights, you know, the stuff that separates us from animals.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 5):
Don't you gay dudes use rent boys?

I'm sure some do, but there's no real strong reason to. You got a whole pool of other homos, plus the 'straight but curious' and 'lips are lips' crowds to pick from.



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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2876 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2643 times:

Quoting aaron747 (Reply 7):
Things have changed a lot the last 20-30 years due to the influence of Hollywood movies and American TV

For better or for worse?


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20336 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2641 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 5):
Don't you gay dudes use rent boys?

Why? I'm a handsome man. I don't need to pay for it. Besides, even ugly dudes manage to get laid. We're all guys and we're all horny pretty much all the time. Most of us are willing to have sex and leave it at that. "Thanks, man. That was fun."

And lest you judge us, do you know how many straight friends I have who *WISH* it were that way for them?

Quoting aaron747 (Reply 7):
However logical it may be, it still belies the fact that people have feelings, and rights, you know, the stuff that separates us from animals.

I remain unconvinced that we are really that much more than animals. We can do pretty neat stuff, but you and me baby ain't nothing but mammals... with 99% ORF homology to chimps and bonobos.


User currently offlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5615 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):


And lest you judge us, do you know how many straight friends I have who *WISH* it were that way for them?

It seems so very odd that you should even have to explain this most basic truth.



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User currently offlineaaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2588 times:

Quoting Elite (Reply 9):
For better or for worse?

Depends who you ask. Younger Japanese tend to have more western relationship ideals, but I don't think it always fits the cultural context. Nevertheless, divorce rates are higher than they've ever been here. 30 years ago, a husband or wife wouldn't think of divorce here if their spouse were rampantly playing around, where as now they usually will.



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7832 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2573 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
Why? I'm a handsome man. I don't need to pay for it.

I'm sure even handsome men don't get lucky 100% of the time, or even put the beer googles on when necessary

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
And lest you judge us, do you know how many straight friends I have who *WISH* it were that way for them?

Appears that Superfly has the same luck with women, that is if we believe him. Really it depends on the quality of women you are after (Fly appears to aim low and fat, which imporves his odds), if you're not picky you could get laid every night of the week, just like a gay dude.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 13):
I'm sure even handsome men don't get lucky 100% of the time, or even put the beer googles on when necessary
Quoting kiwirob (Reply 13):
if you're not picky you could get laid every night of the week, just like a gay dude.

It's not all that unusual to have a word-I-can't-type-here buddy or two available, or know where to go when you're out of town. Pickiness about venue can also play a part in the success rate.

That said, if I had someone who was calling me his husband, I'm not sure how I'd take him bragging on the interwebs about how he's pretty enough to be out there having indiscriminate sex at the snap of his fingers.



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7832 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2546 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 14):
That said, if I had someone who was calling me his husband, I'm not sure how I'd take him bragging on the interwebs about how he's pretty enough to be out there having indiscriminate sex at the snap of his fingers.

Funnily enough I never really thought gay men (even married ones) being faithfull to their partners, hence the reason I didn't even think about that comment, as I assumed Doc (and hubby) was putting it out there for anyone to have a go on.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 15):
Funnily enough I never really thought gay men (even married ones) being faithfull to their partners

In my experience, it's the norm, not the exception. If there isn't some agreement about sex outside the partnership, or grabbing someone for a three-way, cheating is usually the first sign that the coupling is in peril, just like for straights.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6931 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2491 times:

Well I disagree with the criminalization of prostitution, but I don't think the government should be involved or comment on it either, and the Japanese have a rather strange relationship with sexuality, like the school girl uniforms in porn, sexy videos with children, lolicon manga...


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7959 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

This guy is a joke. Many of my Japanese friends are scratching their heads on this one.

The government was quick to condemn his comments...except for Hashimoto ("Mayor" or Governor of Tokyo) who shares equally crazy views.

My friend works behind the scenes for Minna no To (Your Party) and he said that he immediately called his colleague at the Japan Restoration Party and told that guy to pretty much shove it. My friend's facebook was interesting to see earlier.



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User currently offlineaaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 17):
and the Japanese have a rather strange relationship with sexuality, like the school girl uniforms in
porn, sexy videos with children, lolicon manga...

From the outside looking in, perhaps so. In some ways their approach to sexuality is refreshing all the same - being that this is a shame-based culture, rather than a guilt-based culture. The live-and-let-live attitude that people are entitled to their fantasies and interests is pretty healthy IMO. Of course the danger there is that some people cannot keep themselves behind the line between fantasy and reality, but that happens everywhere anyway.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20336 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 15):

Funnily enough I never really thought gay men (even married ones) being faithfull to their partners, hence the reason I didn't even think about that comment, as I assumed Doc (and hubby) was putting it out there for anyone to have a go on.

There is more to love and marriage than sex, and more to faithfulness than sex.

Anyway, I won't go into details about my marriage. But recall that I was single a long time before I wasn't.


User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7832 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2343 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20):

There is more to love and marriage than sex, and more to faithfulness than sex.

Really Doc, you don't need to tell me about it, been married a while now, got three kids, a cat and a big mortgage to show for it.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20336 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2318 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 21):
Really Doc, you don't need to tell me about it, been married a while now, got three kids, a cat and a big mortgage to show for it.

You know what you need?



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Back to the topic: (horrors!)

What does Japanese law have to say about prostitution?


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2313 times:

Do they call them 'comfort women'?


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User currently offlineaaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2301 times:

Prostitution per se is illegal in Japan but the law permits all manner of "everything but" sexual services under various euphemisms like "delivery health", "health salon", "relax therapy" and the like. Young women who work in soaplands often just give the owner a cut of the room they "rent" and whatever happens inside nobody is the wiser.


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25 Max Q : Sounds very reasonable.
26 kiwirob : Number 1 boy wants a puppy real bad, we've promised to deliver when number 3 is a little older (she's only 20 months old). Number 2 isn't interested
27 MD11Engineer : Two things which shouldn´t be mixed up: 1) The "comfort women" in the Japanese WW2 brothels were there against their will. They were forced to become
28 Post contains images Superfly : Sounds like his is attracting a lot of unnecessary, negative attention to himself and his country. GIs are doing what millions of other people are doi
29 PHX787 : Eh still i hear all the time of hookers going all the way under the guise of "friend sex" ....for extra money. The cops don't usually bother with thi
30 Post contains images Redd : It is, you just have to know how to smile and talk, women are attracted intellectually but of course being handsome is a plus . Most men forget that
31 B2443 : I have to believe what the mayor said is really "no-big-deal" in Japan. He wouldn't have said it if he wasn't comfortable saying it. This is a weird c
32 aaron747 : Enjou kosai is still very much alive and well LOL. At the mall the other day I saw a 19 or 20 year-old tramp in a miniskirt and barely-covering-anyth
33 Post contains images Superfly : Awesome!
34 Post contains links Elite : Some sort of back and forth going on right now between the Osaka mayor and the US: "Osaka’s abrasive mayor on Friday hit back at US criticism of his
35 aaron747 : Some American troops did indeed abuse women during the occupation, but the Yakuza, who are now the stalwarts of nationalist sentiment, enabled them b
36 fraspotter : Ah, the old "don't say bad things about us because you did bad things yourself" approach... Classy. Sorry, but the systematic enslavement of their ow
37 B2443 : The sad truth may be that the Japanese do not see anything wrong with that (and the wars as a whole), let alone "making foreign women do it", which t
38 aaron747 : Don't take the statement of one nationalist pig as the general concensus on anything among the Japanese. Most Japanese see these political squabbles
39 PHX787 : Hashimoto's superior is asking him to not use twitter anymore...this guy is a nutcase. Why did Osakans vote him in? Makes all right wingers look stupi
40 aaron747 : Well, in fairness, right wingers here are basically idiots.
41 PHX787 : True. Well, not all, but I guess most. Puts me to shame (as a rightwinger) but I guess it's a cultural difference.
42 DeltaMD90 : Maybe off topic, but is a Japanese right winger (or left winger) similar to an American right or left winger?
43 aaron747 : Not really. Virtually all Japanese of every political stripe support the deep connections between corporations and the government. Right-wing Japanes
44 Max Q : Being a right winger in the US is unlike anywhere else in the world. The so called 'conservative party' is anything but. With it's extreme views on gu
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