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Record Burmese Python Killed In Florida  
User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3317 times:

This snake is a record for the state of Florida, but NOT for Burmese pythons. When I was a little younger, a friend of mine, George McDuffy, ( a ninth grade biology teacher ), had a Burmese that weighed about 140 lbs. Compared to the other larger species of pythons, the Burmese are "relatively" docile; ( as long as you keep them well fed )

I'm appalled by what has taken place in Florida over the last 25 or 30 years; they allow these things to be sold by pet shops while they're still 2 feet long, then because they grow fairly fast when they are fed well, they ALWAYS outgrow the owner's ability to keep them fed and housed in a reliable enclosure; then, at some point, 90% of them end up being set free on the side of a road. The states of Florida and Louisiana should get together and catch a few thousand Burmese in Florida and release them in the coastal swamps of Louisiana and let them help control the huge nutria "problem".

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/excur...lled-in-florida-is-a-state-record/

You can easily see from the photo that this particular snake wasn't having any problems with finding enough to eat.


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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

The snake problem in Florida is a real big problem now. These snakes need to be made illegal as pets. They recently had a hunting competition and the state gave who ever found the most snakes a cash prize. Maybe they should place a cash value on the snakes based on weight and give more incentive for more hunters to go out in the glades and catch these things.


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3255 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 1):
Maybe they should place a cash value on the snakes based on weight and give more incentive for more hunters to go out in the glades and catch these things.

I heard that clothiers were buying the snakes for their skins.



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User currently offlineairportugal310 From Tokelau, joined Apr 2004, 3661 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3224 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):

Normally I'd be "against" this sort of thing but in Florida I think it's at the breaking point (or well past) and its a good incentive.

Just me



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 3):
Normally I'd be "against" this sort of thing but in Florida I think it's at the breaking point (or well past) and its a good incentive.

As if Floridians could stop themselves from wandering around swamps shooting at things anyway...



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 1):
These snakes need to be made illegal as pets. They recently had a hunting competition and the state gave who ever found the most snakes a cash prize.

I think you'll find that they already HAVE been made illegal; the problem is, they waited about 20 years too long to make them illegal. And "illegality" isn't going to do squat for all of the hundreds ? Thousands ? tens of thousands ? of them that are crawling around, eating up indigenous animals, and breeding. Pythons have a LOT of young, and they grow fairly rapidly; add to that, they are EXTREMELY effective preditors; a python the size of the one in that picture would have no problem eating a 6 yr old child, or a 100 pound dog,

I have spent a lot of time slogging around in the swamps of Florida looking for snakes and I can tell you this for certainty; Florida is going to have a big python problem for a VERY long time to come!

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
I heard that clothiers were buying the snakes for their skins.

There has always been a big market for all kinds of reptile skins, and it's world wide; I don't see this having any significant effect on the immediate problem though; as always happens, the state waited many years too long to outlaw the importation and sale of these snakes to have much success getting rid of them now.

Based on what I already know about Burmese pythons, here's a prediction: this particular snake won't have the size record for very long; they get a LOT bigger than this one !



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlineRomeoBravo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 5):
a python the size of the one in that picture would have no problem eating a 6 yr old child, or a 100 pound dog,

Burms do not eat humans. In fact no snake go after humans - shoulders are too broad.

Shame some idiots had to ruin it for the rest of Florida's snake-keepers.


User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

I have never understood why people would want to have a snake for a pet. Feeding live animals to it, I mean what's the point?
Of course these owners want to look cool at a party with a snake hanging around their neck, but I find this rather appalling.

Could someone explain this to me?


User currently offlineRomeoBravo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3001 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 7):
I have never understood why people would want to have a snake for a pet. Feeding live animals to it, I mean what's the point?

Most snake owners dont feed live.

Pythons are very calm and placid animals for the most part. Easy to take care of and extremely beautiful. You can also have a lot of fun cross-breeding...

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/files/morphs/calibee/008.jpg


User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2913 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 7):
I have never understood why people would want to have a snake for a pet. Feeding live animals to it, I mean what's the point?
Of course these owners want to look cool at a party with a snake hanging around their neck, but I find this rather appalling.


You're making some completely incorrect assumptions, right off the bat; first of which is, I have known a LOT of people who "kept" snakes (and various other reptiles), and I don't remember ANY of them who considered their snakes to be "pets". Secondly........you seem to be "against" feeding "live" animals to snakes; the reason is because MANY snakes only EAT live animals; then there are some which do very nicely on a diet of "dead" chicken necks; ( a beautiful Florida Indigo snake I once had.) ALL snakes are preditors; ( a few eat nothing but birds eggs ) NONE eat vegetables.

If you were a very keen observer of people in general, you would have noticed by now that ignorant people tend to do ignorant things, and serious people tend to do....serious things. As for the type of people who think going to a "party" with a snake hanging around their neck........that's NOT a person who is interested in snakes; that's a person who is "into" him/herself, and who thrives on drawing attention to him/herself; ( I tend to call such people "idiots" )

I have liked animals since I was about 2 years old; anything I like, or am interested in, I tend to want to know everything about it; I can think of few creatures that a large percentage of people are almost totally ignorant about, than snakes. Snakes are very unique creatures, partly because they all lack limbs; yet, in spite of this seeming handicap, they have been on this earth MUCH longer than humans have, and they have managed, (with NO limbs), to exist in a world where the vast majority of humans HATE them, (even though very few humans have the slightest idea, WHY they hate snakes); my best guess is.......because of ignorance. Humans "learn" from other humans; newborn babies neither "dislike" or "fear" snakes; they LEARN that from their parents and OTHER humans. The exact same thing is true, relative to why some people of some races and "religions" tend to "hate" any one who looks "different" than themselves.

I was very fortunate; my parents taught me early on that humans are NOT "like" animals, and that the things that make other people either "good" or "bad".........has nothing to do with their color or their shape, or where they came from.

Snakes are very interesting; even though they all may tend to look fairly similar to the casual observer, in actuality, they vary greatly as to the way they "get around", the ways they get their food, and even in the ways they reproduce.

I noticed early on that for the most part, young children tend to be much more curious about snakes than most adults; by the time I became an adult, I had already read most of the books written about snakes (and other reptiles), and I began to notice that lots of people asked me questions about snakes, because they knew I always seemed to have a few. Finally, I was asked to give a lecture about snakes to a class of 2nd grade children; ( I'll never forget when I showed up with a 7 ft boa constrictor, a copperhead, and by FAR, the best snake there is to lecture children with, a Florida King Snake.)

Every opportunity I have ever had to "educate" children about snakes, has almost certainly saved a LOT of snakes from being killed for absolutely no reason, after all of those children grew up. Almost all snakes are beneficial to people, yet most people neglect to find out WHY snakes are beneficial. Thousands of people in India are bitten every year by cobras; does this PROVE that cobras are BAD ? No it doesn't; it proves that there ARE a hell of a lot of cobras IN India, and that many people in India go barefoot, and are very careless about where they walk (in their bare feet) And I might mention, according to the World Health Organization, even though thousands of Indians die every year from cobra bites, it's estimated that even if ALL the cobras in India were killed, at least 10 times as many would die from disease, spread by all of the rats and mice that the cobras keep in check; ( now, if we could only get the poor people of India to wear shoes, and quit sleeping on the ground !)

Ask yourself this question; "What have I ever been able to teach young children that has had an influence in making them better people after they became adults" ? Quite unlike many adults I've seen and known, I have never attempted to poison children's minds with MY political views, or my religious views, but I have influenced quite a few children not to fear things, only because they don't understand them. None of my five children grew up with a fear of snakes, however I have yet to convince my oldest daughter that all spiders are not "bad".

That's basically why many people are fascinated by snakes, and many of them even enjoy keeping a few of them around to "observe", much like a lot of people like to keep tropical fish; they're just "interesting" to watch. You may think that all snakes "crawl"......they don't; it can't be easily explained with words, but trust me, snakes have MANY methods of moving themselves forward, (some of them quite rapidly, I might add)


[quote=RomeoBravo,reply=8]Most snake owners dont feed live.

That could easily be true for certain species of snakes, and it would also make it VERY inconvenient to keep certain other species. I have "kept" many species of snakes, and by far, my all around favorite of all snakes to keep, is just about any of the king snakes; and EVERy king snake I ever had did very well on a diet of white mice (which I raised for them to eat, and wild caught water snakes, which are the easiest (and quickest of all snakes to "collect quickly") So what you feed them all depends on what kinds of snakes you're talking about.

BTW...........the reason a LOT of people don't feed their snakes live prey.......has nothing to do with being "squeamish"......it's ALL about not wanting their prized (and often times very EXPENSIVE) snakes to ingest parasites which are present in many wild-caught prey animals. I had a friend who imported common snakes from Florida, then promptly froze them for a time to kill any parasites, before feeding them to his prized king cobra, (which at the time was VERY difficult to come by, and would now be almost impossible to buy, (without being a big ZOO.)

[Edited 2013-05-21 16:15:30]


Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7931 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2907 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 7):
Could someone explain this to me?

IDK, why do some people like dogs and others cats? Why do you like looking at airplanes? People just like different things, I don't think it goes deeper than that. The #1 reason would probably be "because snakes are cool" or something



Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17667 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2901 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 1):
Maybe they should place a cash value on the snakes based on weight and give more incentive for more hunters to go out in the glades and catch these things.

Tell China their dried and fermented toes are powerful aphrodisiacs and they'll be extinct by the end of the year 
Quoting flymia (Reply 1):
The snake problem in Florida is a real big problem now

  As if Florida needed more oversized creepy crawlies... Do schools still send kids slogging through the Everglades now with the snake infestations?



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User currently offlineRomeoBravo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2895 times:

Quoting Geezer (Reply 9):
That could easily be true for certain species of snakes, and it would also make it VERY inconvenient to keep certain other species. I have "kept" many species of snakes, and by far, my all around favorite of all snakes to keep, is just about any of the king snakes; and EVERy king snake I ever had did very well on a diet of white mice (which I raised for them to eat, and wild caught water snakes, which are the easiest (and quickest of all snakes to "collect quickly") So what you feed them all depends on what kinds of snakes you're talking about.

It's actually illegal to feed invertebrates live to animals in the UK although obviously some people do anyway - but you'll never see feeder mice in the pet shops. Everything is frozen thawed. Mice, rats, chicks, guinea pigs, rabbits you name it.

I've never had a problem with them eating myself in fact i've never fed live in all my time keeping them. But i've only ever kept pythons no larger than Jungle Carpets - haven't got space for a monster snake.

It's a real pleasure to see a snake in the wild over here too. Think i've seen about 2 in my life. 


User currently offlinewingman From Seychelles, joined May 1999, 2289 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

Geezer, welcome back to the forums. You and I agree on very little except for how cool it is to be an F-15 pilot. I have three comments:

1. I'm surprised you're not blaming pythons in Florida on Obama (thank you).

2. I'm shocked that you support legislation of any kind controlling free enterprise!

3. Maverick beat me to the punch...convince Chow Yun Fat his peepee will stay hard into his 90's by drinking Florida python bile and voila!, problem resolved before the next Republican nut-bag moves into the White House.

You're crazy as a loon but glad to see you back.


User currently offlinecptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

If I hadn't gotten a "bug" for aviation and industrial design, I would probably have wound up being a herpetologist. For whatever reason I have always had a fascination for reptiles (including the extinct species , if they were in fact reptiles), and my mother would freak out at my home-built terrariums in the garage when we were living in Coral Gables, FL in the 1950-60's. Bill Haast (Miami Serpentarium) encouraged me, but he was also a flight engineer for Pan Am and somehow flying instead of slithering held more "weight".

Back then, the greater Miami area was almost developed as much as early Las Vegas was, meaning, walk about a beer's worth and you get into really neat critter natural habitats. 'Gators, snakes, lizards (my favorites) and inumerable creepy crawlers. I love Woody Allen's yell (what movie, I forgot) "There's roach in the bathtub the size of a '58 Buick!" I never liked the "palmetto" bugs (Woody's roach), scorpions, vinegar wigs and the occassional banana-imported tarantulas, etc. BUT...I loved the reptiles and can see the fascination (albeit probably misdirected and in many cases uncaring and ignorance in the minds of many private keepers of such animals) of wanting such a "pet". And as type-rated (Rep 7) states, some a$$holes think it's cool to show up at an event with a big (poor creature) snake around his/her neck.

I digress. The Florida problem is a real problem. Friends living there confirm that it has been a problem for some years now and is getting to the point that even if now extreme eradication action were implemented at this point, it would take years to balance the local ecology (and safety to some extent). Damn, I hate new laws but perhaps "reptile trafficking" should be on par with "drug trafficking" as far as penalties?

BTW, as per someone above...some reptiles will ONLY eat live food. Azontu (my boa in college) would only consume live small mice, hampsters, baby pidgeons, etc. I would put the prey in the bathtub (so they couldn"t escape up the slick porcelain sides) and there also was no left over debris field. kind regards...jack



all best; jack
User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2825 times:

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 14):
Bill Haast (Miami Serpentarium) encouraged me, but he was also a flight engineer for Pan Am and somehow flying instead of slithering held more "weight".

Jack.......you never cease to amaze me ! You KNEW Bill Haast ? And Bill was a flight engineer ? I never knew that about him; talk about a HARD CORE Herp.......! Bill was!

About the big Florida python problem; it could have been a LOT worse; in case you're wondering how? ............
Back in the early 60's you didn't hear anything about "Burmese" pythons; back then, they called them "Indian" pythons; but regardless of which name you use to refer to them...........of all of the really big species of pythons, the Burmese are, by far, the "mildest mannered" of the big pythons. Most guys who keep snakes always tend to want what ever is ....the BIGGEST;

Among the big pythons, the Burmese are No. 2 in size, and are rarely known to attain a size of more than 25 feet, and around 250 lbs. in weight. On the other hand, the Reticulated Python of S.E. Asia is known to attain 33 feet, and maybe 300 lbs. But a lot of guys have tried keeping Retics, and very few kept them for long; they are VERY nasty, very ill-tempered, very hard to deal with; in other words..........who wants a great big snake that that's constantly trying to bite your arm off, and is NEVER in a "good mood"; as it turned out........not many did ! Retics also have a MUCH bigger head, very much bigger teeth, and they just refuse to let people drag them around and show them to all of your friends ! But Burmese WILL ! Compared to Retics, (or the African Rock Pythons), Burmese are more like "pussy cats" ! So the Burmese "caught on" with all of the amatuer herps, and just as all big snakes always do, they always end up getting "too" damned big to deal with, and now we are seeing the outcome of a population that started getting bigger and bigger, way back when. And as bad as you may think the present situation is, I can absolutely guarantee, that if the Retics had been the ones that "caught on", things would be VERY MUCH WORSE; (like now and then you'd be reading that msomeone has just been eaten by a big snake)

The big Burmese my friend had was dragged all over; in people's yards, in people's houses........one time George McDuffy stopped in a Sohio station to get gas; (back when they came out and pumped it for you........anyone remember that ? ) anyway, the guy was standing there, pumping gas in Georges station wagon, and the big snake was all coiled up in the back end, and just as the guy happened to glance in, the snake moved his head ! That guy took off running, and I'm not sure if he EVER came back ! Scared him to death ! Hell......you could have sat back there and rode with the damned snake !

The pythons and boas are by far, the oldest of all the 3,000 species of snakes; they go "back........waaaaay back"; hell...they use to have legs ! They STILL have the remanants of limbs; they are many, many times less intelligent, less aware, than some of the more recent snakes, such as the vipers. What they DO have, are several extremely highly developed sensory mechanisms; their sense of smell is phenominal; ( George McDuffy found that out the hard way ) He had been feeding rats to a rattlesnake, and his hands had the "scent" of rats on them; when he started to move the big guy, the thing grabbed his hand, and proceeded to start swallowing ! when it got to his thumb, it apparently realized something was not right, so it just held on! George sat down in a big rocking chair, his hand in this huge snake's mouth, half of the snake in his lap......and waited.......for like TWO HOURS ! Finally, the snake let go; had that happened with a retic........he would have lost his hand, and possibly his whole arm; ( I doubt if even a ritic could have swallowed George,,,, he was a pretty big guy ).

So be very glad that the herps of the early 60's didn't start keeping Retics instead of Burmese.



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 1):
These snakes need to be made illegal as pets.

  
Agreed!

Quoting flymia (Reply 1):
Maybe they should place a cash value on the snakes based on weight and give more incentive for more hunters to go out in the glades and catch these things.

  
We should also place a cash value on the jerks that release these in to the wild in Florida.

Quoting RomeoBravo (Reply 6):
Burms do not eat humans. In fact no snake go after humans - shoulders are too broad.

A small kid or a baby can be consumed by a large python. It's happened before here in southeast Asia.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 7):
I have never understood why people would want to have a snake for a pet.

It's for guys with little peckers and feel a need to compensate.
I'm glad I was already born with a large snake...

Quoting type-rated (Reply 7):
Of course these owners want to look cool at a party with a snake hanging around their neck, but I find this rather appalling.

I think they look really stupid.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 11):
Tell China their dried and fermented toes are powerful aphrodisiacs and they'll be extinct by the end of the year

Haha!  
Quoting cptkrell (Reply 14):
I digress. The Florida problem is a real problem. Friends living there confirm that it has been a problem for some years now

I have a friend that lives there in Florida. I remember chatting with him on his mobile phone while he was driving (hands free). Then he parks and gets out of the car and shout; "Holy f--king $h!t!"
He had almost stepped on one while getting out of the car in a parking lot next to a grassy field.



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User currently offlinecptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

Yes, Charley, I first met Bill Haast at one of his presentations to Jr. High School class in Coral Gables. Of course he invited the class to the serpentarium; I visited and was hooked, so to speak. He taught me how to construct cheap but healthy, efficient home terrariums. World famous for milking venomous snakes to develop anti-serums and also injecting himself daily to stay alive he saved many a snakebite victim. And, after being bitten himself hundreds (if not thousands) of times, I read that he passed away a couple of years ago at the age 100 of natural causes!

Unfortunately, places like legal serpentariums are partially responsible for the snake population increase in Florida as many reptiles are blown away or washed away into the wild as result of hurricanes. I remember reading an estimate of escaped critters (after Hurricane Charley, Charley   ). I can't recall specific numbers, but it was substantial. And of course FL is a perfect survival and breeding habitat for even most "imported" reptiles.

It is against the law to keep snakes and turtles (don't know about lizards) as "pets" in Tennessee. Maybe should be in FL, also? All best...jack



all best; jack
User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 16):
A small kid or a baby can be consumed by a large python. It's happened before here in southeast Asia.

Its happened here in Florida too - a couple years back a baby was eaten by a snake that got out of its cage in a trailer (go figure). These things have been known to eat large alligators. what will stop it from eating a kid?

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 3):
Normally I'd be "against" this sort of thing but in Florida I think it's at the breaking point (or well past) and its a good incentive

I'm against animal cruelty, but they need to get rid of these snakes before they wipe out native species, some of which are endangered


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 18):
Its happened here in Florida too - a couple years back a baby was eaten by a snake that got out of its cage in a trailer

Sad and scary at the same time.

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 18):
that got out of its cage in a trailer (go figure)

This sort of stupidity isn't limited to trailer type folks. I knew several enlighten hipsters in San Francisco that owned large snakes and live in apartments with other tenants. Often times the neighbors don't even know. In fact, I knew a lady many years ago in LA that was a total Hollywood wannabe and hob-knobber with celebs. She lived in a large apartment complex and thought it would be cool and trendy to buy a boa constrictor. It got lost for several weeks in her building. It was eventually found slithering through the vent of another unit two floors down almost month later. It was already 5 feet long when it was found. Could have strangled a baby or small child to death at that size. Luckily her dumb@$$ was evicted as a result.
A few years ago when I lived in San Francisco, a neighbor in a shared flat next door had a 4 foot long Burmese python. He considered himself and 'artist'. In reality he was just a loud obnoxious little punk. A short 5',4", 22 year old brat that liked to make a lot of noise and compensate for being short. He didn't know I was friends with his landlord and he wasn't impressed by his 'artist' tenant. He was kicked out several days later after his artistic photo shoot of himself holding his python. He even let it slither around the yard unattended on several occasions. I took a few photos just to show the landlord.
Many people that buy these as pets are so inconsiderate of their neighbors.



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User currently offlinewindy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2739 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2628 times:

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 17):
Unfortunately, places like legal serpentariums are partially responsible for the snake population increase in Florida as many reptiles are blown away or washed away into the wild as result of hurricanes. I remember reading an estimate of escaped critters (after Hurricane Charley, Charley ). I can't recall specific numbers, but it was substantial. And of course FL is a perfect survival and breeding habitat for even most "imported" reptiles.

Hurricane Andrew was the beginning of this. Like you said the numbers that had been washed into the swamps after those Hurricanes was tremendous and has more to do with this than the releasing by pet owners.



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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4900 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):
The states of Florida and Louisiana should get together and catch a few thousand Burmese in Florida and release them in the coastal swamps of Louisiana and let them help control the huge nutria "problem".

I knew this thread was about illegal immigrants!

Now this is a "Burmese"...


User currently offlinecptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 21):

But...is she really a Burmese or maybe a Boa?

Damn, I remember the first time I saw Jennifer Lopez in "Anaconda". I thought at the time, now she's my kinda reptile! regards...jack



all best; jack
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 21):
Now this is a "Burmese"...

In that case, PLEASE do not show a photo of their 'python'!   

Quoting windy95 (Reply 20):
Hurricane Andrew was the beginning of this. Like you said the numbers that had been washed into the swamps after those Hurricanes

I've heard this before as well.



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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4900 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 22):
Quoting comorin (Reply 21):

But...is she really a Burmese or maybe a Boa?

"watch out here she comes...she's a ma-an eater!"

Superfly:

  


25 Geezer : Larry, you have just demonstrated that you don't know anything about snakes; Boa Constrictors don't crawl around, looking for babies to "strangle" or
26 Superfly : I know enough to know that I don't want one living near me.
27 RomeoBravo : Yeah you can get dwarf burms which grow to around 6 or 7 foot but unless you know the parents there's no real way of telling if it's a dwarf version o
28 Darksnowynight : Yup. What I don't understand is why anyone would want that for a pet. They don't do anything. Just sit in a coil on their heat rock all day. I'll bet
29 Geezer : As I've already pointed out, most people don't regard snakes as pets; Yes, many snakes DO spend a considerable amount of time "coiled up", "stretched
30 Post contains images Superfly : Dogs are cool. Snakes are not. You can't place catch with a snake, nor can a snake get the news paper for you. Make more use of it and turn it in to
31 cptkrell : Coincidental to this thread, last night (actually it was the wee hours of this morning) there was a piece on "Animal Planet" about what I perceived to
32 Geezer : [quote=Superfly,reply=30]That may be true but what if the snake is hungry? Considering this particular snake was out of it's natural habitat inside th
33 Post contains images kiwirob : this one ain't.
34 Superfly : Agreed. I mentioned that in reply #16 and #19. That is a crazy story about your friend. Sounds like they are true reptile lovers. They are the except
35 Darksnowynight : Whoa! I thought it was illegal not to bury dead pets.
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